Bad Jameis
October 5th, 2016
Ugly numbers.
No, it has not been a good three weeks for America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Not only has he seen his team beaten down by two playoff teams, he also witnessed his team punked by the rotten Rams in the home opener. To add salt to the wound, Jameis couldn’t complete a rally at the end of the loss to the Rams with the Bucs knocking on the door to score and win.
Dan Graziano of BSPN offers his take why he’s not confident in Jameis right now.
Winston is tied for the league high with 10 turnovers. He has a league-high 16 turnovers since Week 13 of the previous season, far more than the other NFC South quarterbacks (Cam Newton has 9, Matt Ryan 8, and Drew Brees 5).
Yes, everyone is talking about Jameis’ turnovers. Fair. Notice that Jameis’ turnovers began exploding when Doug Martin got hurt? Coincidence? Joe doesn’t believe in coincidences. Teams know Jameis is going to throw and are ready for him. Aqib Talib all but said as much.
It is sad — when it seemed Jameis had turned the corner and looked to be the franchise quarterback everyone thought he would be. Dirk Koetter says Jameis has not regressed, but he has more picks now than he did after four games last year.
Within a 24-hour span, Koetter said he was “very concerned” with Jameis’ picks, then reversed field and said he was “very confident” Jameis would stop throwing interceptions. Wonder which statement Koetter really believes?
October 5th, 2016 at 8:08 am
He can be confident in Winston’s ability as a QB and ability to turn around his turnover problem and still be concerned about the turnovers he has committed. Not mutually exclusive. Don’t ban me.
October 5th, 2016 at 8:15 am
lol Don’t ban me.
October 5th, 2016 at 8:16 am
Atlanta fans were ready to run Matt Ryan out of town last year because of turnovers. He had bad season. Mostly because his defense was historically poor and his o line forgot hire to pass protect. He found himself pressing to make plays to keep his team in games. Look at Ryans numbers this year. The defense still isn’t good but not as bad and they overhauled the o line. Our defense had been historically bad, and our running game non existent, Jameis is pressing to make plays. This can be fixed.
October 5th, 2016 at 8:16 am
not only do they know that JW3 has to throw, they know exactly where and who they will throw to!!!! Just about every team can man cover every receiver and TE on the Bucs roster and they know that ME13 needs some time to get open!!!!
Its a playaction offense with no playaction!!!!
October 5th, 2016 at 8:16 am
Bucs 2017 NFL Draft WR,TE and safety!!!
October 5th, 2016 at 8:27 am
Anybody think there’s good chemistry between Coach and QB? Following this latest debacle, Winston said (like 15 times) “gotta protect the ball”, but didn’t he learn that last year? What if Winston can’t learn that and with every pick, Koetter gets another hole in his life raft? Bad situation…
October 5th, 2016 at 8:39 am
Koetter is running up the gut with sims on 1st and 2nd down and he is wondering why jameis is making mistakes on 3rd and long?
I think dirk is bipolar and suffering from foot in mouth disease
Where is justin forsett? Doug is not going to be productive with a bad lingering hammy the whole year
We banged up sims running up the middle and now we cant use him to do what he does best on catching the ball
Did everyone hear mark cook talk about our lazy vjax
Bring in butler and have keyshawn jackson sit
If we lose, lets lose with fire and emotion
We can still win the division if we win this mnf game vs panthers
Lets go BUCS!
October 5th, 2016 at 8:56 am
Joe: You need to start a confidence poll for Winston?
October 5th, 2016 at 8:59 am
Jameis is going to turn it up Monday night believe that
October 5th, 2016 at 8:59 am
Winston looks awful. He has at least 1 turnover in 7 consecutive games turning the ball over and not leading the team to come back wins is what he’s known for
October 5th, 2016 at 9:03 am
Fresca is refreshing. Dirk, not so much. He should occasionally mince his words, or his loose-lips will become a detriment to the culture of the team he’s attempting to achieve. This example Joe pointed out is by no means the first contradicting statement he’s perpetuated.
October 5th, 2016 at 9:08 am
Many people claim they want their coaches to be straight forward, to tell it like it is, and be blunt in their assessments. Coaches need to be more measured with their responses or else the public hears a lot of double talk regarding the Bucs. That’s not good for the fans, the players, or the organization.
October 5th, 2016 at 9:08 am
Rashad Greene syndrome. See Gruden QB Camp.
tickrdr
October 5th, 2016 at 9:11 am
I’m so glad we don’t have the 4th best QB in the division any more.
tickrdr
October 5th, 2016 at 9:38 am
jameis has to stop turning the ball over….dirk has to do a better job with his play calling….get more creative…keep the defense guessing….try some reverses….trick plays….anything ….the offense is too predictable….we’ve heard this from 3 teams in a row….that the offense is predictable and they know whats coming….put the players in position to win dirk!!!….GO BUCS!!!
October 5th, 2016 at 9:43 am
Predictable is what we have heard about this team from every team for about 10 years now.
October 5th, 2016 at 9:44 am
I agree that Koetter can be both concerned about Jameis’ turnovers and confident he can fix it going forward.
After all, isn’t that where most of us are with Koetter. According to Joe’s lates Koetter poll…..74.2% had confidence in Koetter. I would assume that most of those were also “concerned”.
October 5th, 2016 at 10:11 am
1-7 during the last 8 games is disgusting, no excuses.
October 5th, 2016 at 10:17 am
Uh…excuse me but the “rotten Rams” are 3-1 and tied for the lead in their division with the Seahawks…a team the Rams have already whipped.
The Broncos are undefeated…the Falcons are 3-1 and the Cardinals are the only team we’ve played that has not won at least 3 games.
Wake up and smell the coffee. The season is off to a horrid start but why all the surprise? The injuries are now becoming a major concern.
#3 simply MUST learn to protect the football. Stop with all the freaking excuses Joe! #3 tosses turnovers because…no Doug Martin…Koetter has messed with his head…when can we just admit the truth. #3 is a great kid who is struggling right now. He simply cannot harness his competitive never say die spirit.
#3 must learn that discretion is the better part of valor…he MUST start eating the ball..throw it away…whatever. Something has to click in his head that lets him know when a play is over.
The situation of his first two picks is what upsets me. He is simply not yet good enough to force a ball that early in a game with the type of DB’s Denver fields.
If it was a last minute drive trying to win a game I get it.
Perhaps he needs to learn about pacing. I hate to play to simply not lose…but there is no shame in playing it close to the vest until the 4th Quarter when you can then put your chips on the line.
The turnovers are compounded by the fact that #3 is such a notoriously slow starter…then don’t gamble…PERIOD..in the first half.
October 5th, 2016 at 10:57 am
He is a 2nd year qb that throws the ball downfield. All 2nd year QB int’s numbers go up somewhat because they are tasked with handing more of the offense. They had a chance of picking up Tunsil or Fuller but they stayed pat with these bigger slow receivers. They gave Martin money knowing he has injury issues. The penalties are atrocious, and of course you will be in trouble throwing on third and long. The Jameis is the scapegoat but the Buc troubles go beyond Jameis.
October 5th, 2016 at 11:08 am
Joe, as stated above, the two statements are not contradictory. One can be concerned about the turnovers he has made recently and still believe that he can turn it around and correct his mistakes. Personally, I would say that is exactly how I feel as a fan. I am also assuming that is how most of us feel outside of Tampa Tony who is obviously a Jameis hater and wishes we would have taken the fragile Titan.
October 5th, 2016 at 11:20 am
Preach it Stpetebucsfan. I agree totally
October 5th, 2016 at 11:21 am
@stpete….the bucs beat a team that currently 3-1….we should’ve beat a 1-3 Arizona team but dirk didn’t prepare this team…they came out flat and lackluster….but most will chalk it up to turnovers and injuries martin and ayers….I understand but I don’t agree….the bucs could’ve beat a 3-1 rams team but our HC had a coaching 101 meltdown and blow the game….I doubt we would’ve beat the broncos but we could’ve made it interesting but dirk quit on his team and gave up….
the losing combined with the way we’re losing isn’t making dirk or mike smith look competent….this is the third game in a row that dirk has made questionable coaching decisions(having jameis throw 52,58 times, poor clock management, quitting on his team)….we have a hc/oc that calls a predictable game and abandons the run too soon mixed with a dc that cant generate pressure….WALK UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE….so far neither has put this team in position to be successful….
we should be at least 2-2 confident we can become 3-2 before the bye and get injured players back but we’re looking down the barrel of 1-4 with an extra week to think about this so called losing culture….GO BUCS!!!!
October 5th, 2016 at 11:29 am
813bucboi …you’re an idiot and a fraud.
Go Bucs!
October 5th, 2016 at 11:57 am
Ouch! ’87!
JW is struggling but there’s hope. He turned it around quite nicely last year after struggling, there’s no reason to believe he can’t do the same.
Tighten up Bucs, tighten up!
October 5th, 2016 at 12:13 pm
StPeteBucsFan I agree. He really does need to understand when the play is not there. He is not ready to force the ball in strong coverage and it seems every time he gets on one of these rollouts he takes to much time or throws a bomb downfield instead of running it or throwing the ball away. Its not necessarily his game, it’s that he has to make smarter decisions which in time i believe the second year, 22 year old will come to understand.
October 5th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
If Jameis take care of business monday night against the panthers on the ROAD, he will be back in the bucs good graces watch…. And anybody think our season is done because we lost to 3 solid football teams your crazy… As long as Famous Jameis reduce the turnovers we will be fine.. A big win before the bye is just what we need… I read something interesting on espn.. Jameis has 8 interceptions while not under any pressure, and 5 touchdowns while being pressured..that tells me we need to establish the run game and play the field position game and let our defense make plays
October 5th, 2016 at 12:31 pm
@87….why so sensitive?….I know..the truth hurts….GO BUCS!!!!
October 5th, 2016 at 2:19 pm
Did you guys even see Jameis’s jersey on Sunday? Shhh, it was black.
These 2 INTs are completely on JW but the other 8 can be argued.
I keep saying that we need to introduce the read option ala cam. Jaboo can run and with a depleted backfield this might be the wrinkle needed in the game plan to beat Carolina.
October 5th, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Koetter said he is very confident that Jameis will STOP turning the ball over because he did it last year. What else is he supposed to say? I still think he is concerned though because those turnovers are what cost us the games. I know ALL the turnovers were NOT Winston’s fault but he still doesn’t look that accurate when he throws the ball. That just means he is going to continue to turn the ball over and cost us games.
We should be 2-2 right now and possibly 3-1 if he didn’t hand the Broncos 14 points in the 1st quarter. At 13-7 that game could have turned out totally different, since we would have been in it and able to still run the ball. When is it going to stop? I am tired of watching games that are OVER after the first quarter or halftime. When are we going to be able to compete again? JW and Sims are giving the other teams too many points to battle back from. Most games are decided by 7 points OR less and we have given EVERY team we have played this year at LEAST 7 points, 14 the last 2 weeks. We are lucky we have even 1 win. Atlanta WILL beat us the next time we play them. I hope the turnovers stop soon so I can start to enjoy the games again.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:28 pm
Don’t worry he’ll take his next team to a super bowl!
October 5th, 2016 at 7:35 pm
Stop calling him America’s QB!it should be Winstaverde!