Its way too early to completely give up on him. Even though I am not a big fan of his, I have to admit feeling a bit comforted when he was in the game with the scrubs on Wednesday. It felt like we at least had one decent player on the field. He also made a nice grab or two when the balls thrown his way were actually catchable. Now if someone did offer something unrefusable in a trade … I wouldn’t hate that.
Come on man! Let’s stop the negative articles about ASJ Joe and get ready for the regular season. This guy is a game changer and along with Brate could be the best TE tandem in the league. There’s not another offense in the league that can create mismatch problems in the red zone like we have. What article? This is a survey of Bucs fans. ASJ is a wild card and Joe wants to know what the people think. –Joe
LOL here we go again. Joe HATES ASJ. Only an idiot would cut him or even trade him at the moment. He is our best option at TE. When are you going to reveal what he did to you to make you hate him so much Joe?
Cameron Brate gives you 21 yards a game in 2015 and 12.5 yards a catch.
ASJ gives you 48 yards a game in 2015 and 16 yards a catch.
ASJ had to play all game in the slop because the other suited tight end got injured.
Koetter has gotten ASJ to do the dirty work for the last two games.Brate was able to fly under the radar last year but defenses will be looking for him this year and if he has to block Winston will not get good protection from him.
ASJ is unreliable at best. He is not a game changer and is more likely to have a mental breakdown than make the pro bowl. All the talent in the world means nothing if you have SH!T betwwen the ears. He’s had just as many dumb penalties as catches. He simply cant be counted on. Trade ASJ , Glennon and Murphy for 5th rd pick and a stripper.
Joe doesn’t hate ASJ. Stop being stupid. He doesn’t hate anyone on the team.
Not even Bell.
As to the poll, I’m happy to see most fans do not want to give up on him just yet. Regardless of what people think about his attitude, he was still our best producing TE last year.
I’m not opposed to a trade for a high round pick (2nd rounder) from a bad team (so it is early), but I say keep him.
Look at it this wsy so many in buc land like to live in the past so here is one for them… ASJ, McCoy and Martin have missed more games in their combined 12 years than Sapp, Brooks, Barber and Lynch in their combined 57 years…. the new bucs are significantly more fragile than the old bucs. Kind of goes hand in hand with the wussification of America
That is ridiculous and you know it. ASJ has made a catch here and there but has NEVER made a significant play on his carrerr that was not followed vy something stupid
@ Tmax you and I both know the reason for the increased injuries:
Due to the lack of real training camp as in the past,and the ripoff exhibition games players are getting hurt more.
Love the players of the past because I was lucky enough to witness them play.
Different era, different players and completely different rules.
Borderline Personality Disorder- Requires a medical diagnosis
Symptoms include emotional instability, feelings of worthlessness, insecurity, impulsivity, and impaired social relationships.
People may experience:
Behavioral: antisocial behavior, compulsive behavior, hostility, impulsivity, irritability, risky behavior, self-destructive behavior, self-harm, social isolation, or lack of restraint
Mood: anger, anxiety, general discontent, guilt, loneliness, mood swings, or sadness
Psychological: depression, distorted self-image, grandiosity, or narcissism
Also common: thoughts of suicide
I agree with you completely i am an old guy myseld been a fan since 78 just found it interesting when adfing up games missedin the past versus present by star players. This new bubble wrap league and the wussified CBA is causing more harm than good
Sounds about right comparing symptoms with actual behavior… well let’s get young asj medication and win a damn super bowl. Brandon Marshall is a great turn around story.
@TMAX stats
I think the stats are pretty clear.I just think that Koetter and ASJ can add an important wrinkle to our offense.And at 900,000 salary this year its a far cheaper experiment than:Anthony Collins,Michael Johnson,George Johnson
or Josh McCown.
Wow……why so much concern over what Joe calls a 4th string TE…..after all, we need 4 TEs…..why not keep ASJ….and for you concerned about ASJ’s injuries…..his primary chance of injury would be getting a splinter in his a$$ for sitting on the bench.
I would say cut him, but I feel like he would get added to the long list of players that the Bucs cut/traded, that ended up going to Super Bowls. So keep him and hide him from other teams.
I hate repeating myself. But ASJ warrants my pessimistic repeats. I know a lot of Buc fans like this guy. Butt..folks, he’s bad news. Yes, he will flash here and there. But consistency? FORGETABOUTIT. Mark my words, He’ll be injured before midseason. Thais is not an omen. I just know this is what will happen. You judge a player by his body language and heart. Just wach Mr. Jenkins. The guy will be average and collect paychecks. Won’t help us to a championship. I say, trade’em while we can!
We’ll see if he can actually stay healthy, but Brate and JW have a stronger chemistry and I expect that to continue throughout the season. ASJ is going to be in the hot seat all season. This is officially his put up or shut up season.
Kinda ridiculous. The kid is by a long shot the best TE on the team and has tons of upside. Everyone was ready to get rid of Doug before the end of last season. McCoy had a good share of haters when he couldn’t Shake the injury bug. If ASJ can stay healthy he should be the starter… without a doubt.
September 2nd, 2016 at 8:31 am
Bucs NFL 2017 Draft, WR, TE, Safety!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2016 at 8:46 am
Its way too early to completely give up on him. Even though I am not a big fan of his, I have to admit feeling a bit comforted when he was in the game with the scrubs on Wednesday. It felt like we at least had one decent player on the field. He also made a nice grab or two when the balls thrown his way were actually catchable. Now if someone did offer something unrefusable in a trade … I wouldn’t hate that.
September 2nd, 2016 at 8:52 am
I say start him. He’s playing better than brate
September 2nd, 2016 at 8:55 am
Come on man! Let’s stop the negative articles about ASJ Joe and get ready for the regular season. This guy is a game changer and along with Brate could be the best TE tandem in the league. There’s not another offense in the league that can create mismatch problems in the red zone like we have.
What article? This is a survey of Bucs fans. ASJ is a wild card and Joe wants to know what the people think. –Joe
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:01 am
Confused. Wasn’t it just like a week or so ago, it was reported his play had improved, and he was battling Brate to start?
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:19 am
Well….Joe is starting to see what the people think…..
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:22 am
Keep’em – But still call Cleveland – concering a trade for TE Gary Barnidge
#nostoneleftunturned
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:22 am
LOL here we go again. Joe HATES ASJ. Only an idiot would cut him or even trade him at the moment. He is our best option at TE. When are you going to reveal what he did to you to make you hate him so much Joe?
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:27 am
I voted other because he should start, he is the best TE on the team, yes I understand he can be a bonehead once in a while.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:29 am
#82 Gary Barnidge TE (30) 6-6 | 250
#88 Luke Stocker TE (28) 6-6 | 253
#87 Austin Jenkins TE (23) 6-5 | 262
#84 Cameron Brate TE (25) 6-5 | 235
Now that’s a solid TE room.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:29 am
Cameron Brate gives you 21 yards a game in 2015 and 12.5 yards a catch.
ASJ gives you 48 yards a game in 2015 and 16 yards a catch.
ASJ had to play all game in the slop because the other suited tight end got injured.
Koetter has gotten ASJ to do the dirty work for the last two games.Brate was able to fly under the radar last year but defenses will be looking for him this year and if he has to block Winston will not get good protection from him.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:29 am
ASJ is unreliable at best. He is not a game changer and is more likely to have a mental breakdown than make the pro bowl. All the talent in the world means nothing if you have SH!T betwwen the ears. He’s had just as many dumb penalties as catches. He simply cant be counted on. Trade ASJ , Glennon and Murphy for 5th rd pick and a stripper.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:31 am
Pats would have cut if he acted like this up there. Need to set an example. If we can get something in return then go for it.
I’m fine w keeping him as well but just saying what the standard would do
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:32 am
Joe doesn’t hate ASJ. Stop being stupid. He doesn’t hate anyone on the team.
Not even Bell.
As to the poll, I’m happy to see most fans do not want to give up on him just yet. Regardless of what people think about his attitude, he was still our best producing TE last year.
I’m not opposed to a trade for a high round pick (2nd rounder) from a bad team (so it is early), but I say keep him.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:32 am
Bob you forget to mention the fact he will and has missed over 50% of the games since he’s been a buc….
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:33 am
Best ability is availability let’s see if she can make it through week 1 without getting hurt
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:39 am
@tmax
that is because I don’t spend my time worrying about injuries.Its the NFL,
S*#t happens, it is unpredictable and no player is immune.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:41 am
I’m surprised that this wasn’t the Poll
Burn him at the stake
Behead him
Tie him up and torture him
Cut him
Trade him
Keep him but bench him until all other TEs are injured
Other
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:41 am
Bob
Then explain to me how you can be so high on a guy that missed over half the games. How does that helpthe team.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:47 am
#nottodaysatannottoday
@tmax
Brandon Marshall
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:48 am
Missed over half the games, and yet was still the best at his position on the team. THAT is how it helps the team.
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:53 am
Bob
Look at it this wsy so many in buc land like to live in the past so here is one for them… ASJ, McCoy and Martin have missed more games in their combined 12 years than Sapp, Brooks, Barber and Lynch in their combined 57 years…. the new bucs are significantly more fragile than the old bucs. Kind of goes hand in hand with the wussification of America
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:53 am
ASJ needed to make up for his dismissal from practice. We are good from here on out. GO BUCS!
September 2nd, 2016 at 9:55 am
Bonzi
That is ridiculous and you know it. ASJ has made a catch here and there but has NEVER made a significant play on his carrerr that was not followed vy something stupid
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:14 am
@ Tmax you and I both know the reason for the increased injuries:
Due to the lack of real training camp as in the past,and the ripoff exhibition games players are getting hurt more.
Love the players of the past because I was lucky enough to witness them play.
Different era, different players and completely different rules.
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:23 am
@Tmax
Per Mayo Clinic
Borderline Personality Disorder- Requires a medical diagnosis
Symptoms include emotional instability, feelings of worthlessness, insecurity, impulsivity, and impaired social relationships.
People may experience:
Behavioral: antisocial behavior, compulsive behavior, hostility, impulsivity, irritability, risky behavior, self-destructive behavior, self-harm, social isolation, or lack of restraint
Mood: anger, anxiety, general discontent, guilt, loneliness, mood swings, or sadness
Psychological: depression, distorted self-image, grandiosity, or narcissism
Also common: thoughts of suicide
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:24 am
Bob
I agree with you completely i am an old guy myseld been a fan since 78 just found it interesting when adfing up games missedin the past versus present by star players. This new bubble wrap league and the wussified CBA is causing more harm than good
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:27 am
DB55
Sounds about right comparing symptoms with actual behavior… well let’s get young asj medication and win a damn super bowl. Brandon Marshall is a great turn around story.
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:29 am
@TMAX stats
I think the stats are pretty clear.I just think that Koetter and ASJ can add an important wrinkle to our offense.And at 900,000 salary this year its a far cheaper experiment than:Anthony Collins,Michael Johnson,George Johnson
or Josh McCown.
September 2nd, 2016 at 10:31 am
Wow……why so much concern over what Joe calls a 4th string TE…..after all, we need 4 TEs…..why not keep ASJ….and for you concerned about ASJ’s injuries…..his primary chance of injury would be getting a splinter in his a$$ for sitting on the bench.
September 2nd, 2016 at 2:12 pm
I would say cut him, but I feel like he would get added to the long list of players that the Bucs cut/traded, that ended up going to Super Bowls. So keep him and hide him from other teams.
September 2nd, 2016 at 2:27 pm
Just keep ASJ, this should be his best year yet in terms of production.
September 2nd, 2016 at 3:33 pm
I hate repeating myself. But ASJ warrants my pessimistic repeats. I know a lot of Buc fans like this guy. Butt..folks, he’s bad news. Yes, he will flash here and there. But consistency? FORGETABOUTIT. Mark my words, He’ll be injured before midseason. Thais is not an omen. I just know this is what will happen. You judge a player by his body language and heart. Just wach Mr. Jenkins. The guy will be average and collect paychecks. Won’t help us to a championship. I say, trade’em while we can!
September 2nd, 2016 at 5:32 pm
We’ll see if he can actually stay healthy, but Brate and JW have a stronger chemistry and I expect that to continue throughout the season. ASJ is going to be in the hot seat all season. This is officially his put up or shut up season.
September 2nd, 2016 at 5:48 pm
Maybe he needs to drop the ‘Sefarian’ , send it to join ‘Dietrich’.
September 3rd, 2016 at 1:28 am
Kinda ridiculous. The kid is by a long shot the best TE on the team and has tons of upside. Everyone was ready to get rid of Doug before the end of last season. McCoy had a good share of haters when he couldn’t Shake the injury bug. If ASJ can stay healthy he should be the starter… without a doubt.
September 3rd, 2016 at 4:49 am
lol Upside based on what?
Doug had shown what he could do when healthy on an entire season before he had two injury riddled years.