Should Jameis Channel Johnny?

August 29th, 2016
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Bucs coach believes Jameis should tap into Johnny Football’s success.

A few years ago, Joe had never before been smitten by a quarterback like he was by Johnny Football.

The dude was absolutely dynamic. He almost single-handedly took an average football program into elite status. To see him scramble and avoid defenders and would-be tacklers like a hyper Labrador puppy and then fire downfield for touchdowns was backyard football at its finest. Even drove Nick Saban nuts.

Johnny Football was must-watch football for Joe, and it is a crying shame he didn’t give a damn about himself or the game once the checks started cashing.

But to hear Dirk Koetter talk, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, should try some of that Johnny Football magic to take advantage of one of Johnny Football’s favorite targets, Mike Evans.

“It’s our jobs as coaches to – you’ve got these special talents at different positions, they don’t all come in the same box,” Koetter said Saturday.

“So we’ve got to figure out how to best use Mike, Vincent, everybody else, and we’ve got to get Jameis and Mike on the same page on how best. I mean, how did Mike get used in college? Shoot, Johnny Manziel went back there, scrambled around for 10 minutes and threw a jump ball and Mike caught it. That was their offense. And they were great at it. So we have to take advantage of stuff like that.”

Koetter added this shouldn’t be a problem for Jameis. He noted offensive coordinator Todd Monken broke down each pass play from last year and it turned out the No. 1 pass play of the Bucs was a scramble, or Jameis moving out of the pocket to throw a completion.

So Koetter seemed to hint Jameis needs to throw more jump balls Evans’ way. If it worked with Johnny Football, Koetter reasons, it will work with Jameis.

38 Responses to “Should Jameis Channel Johnny?”

  1. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Hope this is the last time Jameis and Johnny are in the same sentence together.

  2. pete Says:

    “Hope this is the last time Jameis and Johnny are in the same sentence together.”

  3. BucsFanSince89 Says:

    Better yet, I hope those names are NEVER together on anything! That guy is a loss cause.

  4. AJ Says:

    You still have a large credibility gap. From your man-love of Manziel 3 years ago. Please make this the first and last time. You and Coach use him and Jameis in the same breathe.

  5. Buc50 Says:

    I don’t want my QB running around like that. Scramble enough to make the play then get out of bounds or get on the ground. A scrambling QB is not a healthy QB for long.

  6. Dooshlarue Says:

    Ah Joe………. it’s hard to forget your first man crush isn’t it?
    I’m sure he’ll call.

  7. tdtb2015 Says:

    I think is unanimous with the jbf readers. NEVER AGAIN. Joe is about to start a riot!

    Koetter has thrown Joe under the bus with the quote. Poor Joe felt obligated to write this. I wonder how many shots he took before posting this?

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I have to hand it to you Joe……you certainly have big cajones to write an article like this…..bringing up the utter failure…Johnny Football…..your coveted draft pick.

    As for the subject….I think Jameis should only scramble when necessary….not by design. One of Jameis’ strong suits is to hang in the pocket under pressure and still find a receiver and deliver a pass.

  9. tdtb2015 Says:

    I think Ira Kaufman will get nauseated when he read this. Drafting Johnny would had doomed JBF. Ira’s job would be as real as Glennon benching America’s Quarterback.

  10. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    I think y’all missing his point. Famous put it up and give ME’s 6’5 frame a chance to muscle smaller coners. I’m in total agreement. Put it up there Famous. Put it up there.

  11. SB with Jameis Says:

    Out of the Johnny football/Mike Evans duo. It is now easy to see who made who.

  12. DemBoyzFromDaBay727 Says:

    Thank god our boy turned out to be nothing like that puthetic looser. I have no respect for a person who throws away a chance to be great like he did. Play the greatest ga,e on earth and get payed millions for it at the same time?? Pull your head out off your ass Johnny alcohol

  13. orlbucfan Says:

    Looks like Famous Jameis did that at least twice Friday nite. Didn’t he and ME practice a lot of throw and catch in the off-season? It sure shows.

  14. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    The Texan’s draftee Fuller is 4.3 40 guy but it wasn’t like he had five yard steps between him and cards defenders on deep balls yesterday. People say here all the time we need a speedster on the outside,ME with his slimmed down body looks plenty capable of getting behind NFL defenders much like he did in school and his rookie season.

  15. Drew Says:

    Joe… You fell on your Manziel man crush sword.

  16. Buccfan37 Says:

    I guess Johnny Football’s game didn’t work in the pro game. He knew that would happen before he got there.

  17. tmaxcon Says:


    hell yeah… you get ths post and Joe’s point. I agree with you and joe… fire away young jameis fire away.. .

  18. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Side note: we are going to zona in week two and beating them. I’ll continue saying it Palmer nμ+s up under pressure. Chandler Jones all of sudden looks normal. And ain’t no way trevor siemien coming in the and bay beating us. Y’all need to start viewing your team for what it is. Bad as h3ll. I ain’t fearing no team in the league homie.

  19. The Buc Realist Says:

    While Joe thinks that is “exciting” football, the rest of us know that all it means is the WRs are not getting separation and getting open!!!! And scrambling around all game like that only opens up your o-line to holding penalties and not knowing where and what angles to protect!!!!!

  20. Chris Says:

    Except in the last game, Jameis stood in there with heat around him to deliver those passes to Evans, Jackson, etc. I like Jameis better in the pocket , than scrambling. He has a bad habit of throwing across his body and into traffic when he does, plus he takes too many hits.

  21. Chris Says:

    Standing in the pocket, something Johnny Foodball could never do.

  22. Chris Says:

    But didn’t Joe not like Mariotta because of his scrambling ?

  23. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    Jameis threw a national championship-winning pass to Kelvin Benjamin that was a jump ball. He knows how to do it, and I’m sure he will when the time is right. Jameis just needs to be Jameis, he’s doing a great job without channeling some spoiled, failed QB.

  24. Nick Says:

    Headline almost made me throw up..

  25. DB55 Says:

    Jameis just needs to get the ball out in front. Mike is fast af. He’s like a giraffe with those long strides. As long as he doesn’t have to break stride like he did on last weeks TD pass this offense will be unstoppable.

  26. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Giraffe is reserved for MG8…..lets say gazelle.

  27. Eric Says:

    Amazing how people could look at the same thing and see it so differently Johnny was train wreck Winston was vilified but had a pro skill set Johnny was a sand lot qb

  28. DB55 Says:


    Lol. Noted.

  29. Mike Johnson Says:

    kameis should be and far away from Johnny exfootball as he can be. Manziel is washed up, a has been. Yes he had a great college career. He just was not NFL mentally ready. Johnny’s next stop is…Prison!

  30. Bucsfanman Says:

    @NOSBOS and tmax- Ditto! Let it fly Jameis! Let it fly!

  31. Buc since '74 Says:

    Without Mike Evans, I don’t think Johnny Throwdown would have had nearly as much success and hype. He would have just been another scrambling, interception prone jabronie.

  32. Pickgrin Says:

    “that Johnny Football magic” got lost in the bottom of a bottle.

    Scrambling around for 10 minutes and throwing a jump ball to Evans was Manziel’s game and it won’t work very well in the NFL. It’s called a 50/50 ball because at least half the time it doesn’t work and bad things can happen.

    Jameis needs to concentrate on ball security this year. By the very nature of his playing style along with Koetter’s aggressive downfield playcalling, Winston will get dozens of opportunities to throw the ball 15-40 yards down the field and make big plays without resorting to throwing it up for grabs.

    Winston needs to play aggressive AND smart. A “jump ball” means the receiver was covered and you threw it anyway hoping your guy comes down with it. Better to find the open man or buy time with your feet until someone comes open.

    Turnovers are the #1 cause of losses in the NFL and Winston needs to do everything in his power to minimize them. So let’s keep the 50/50 throws to a minimum and concentrate on running great routes and making accurate throws to open receivers from the pocket.

    THAT along with a solid running game and good play callling that mixes the 2 well is the key to winning football for this Buccaneers offense.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Joe just can’t let the Johnny Football thing go, lol.

  34. Mike Johnson Says:

    Joe can’t let..a lot of things Go!!

  35. Dave Says:


    Johnny SUCKS!!!!

    Running around and creating something is great sometimes but not something to strive for. It’s a way to limit the QBs chances for staying healthy.
    JW has good presence in pocket and moves when necessary. Stick with it.
    The only take away here is –
    Evans (and VJax) are open when 1-1. Jump ball is theirs!

  36. Lamdog Says:

    You must have heard incorrectly? Out of all the quarterbacks in NFL history, this is who you want to emulate? Two years and counting.

  37. Old Time Buc Says:

    Lovie and Johnny are on the same ship and that ship has sailed. Please no more articles or comments on either.
    Dirk Koetter is the one who chose to talk about Johnny during a news conference. Joe was not about to ignore that.–Joe

  38. Bucboi85 Says:

    So don’t ask why Winston wanted Lovie