Muhammad Ali And Jameis

June 4th, 2016

One of the most influential figures of the 20th century, Muhammad Ali, died yesterday.

Prior to America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, getting drafted, Joe wrote about the link between Ali and Jameis. You can click here for the story.

39 Responses to “Muhammad Ali And Jameis”

  1. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Muhammad Ali – Greatest of ALL TIME

    Thank you for paying homage Joe’s.
    But Muhammad Ali -put a Nation on his back.
    So sorry I see no comparison to Jameis Winston – at all.

  2. Buc1987 Says:


    Greatest of All Time and forever.

  3. Buccfan37 Says:

    Muhammad Ali brings back a lot of memories from youth. I liked the guy as millions around the world did also.

  4. Harry Says:

    Sad to see him go…

  5. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    The Fight that left the world in awe.

    George Foreman vs Muhammad Ali – Oct. 30, 1974 – Entire fight – Rounds 1 – 8 & Interview –

  6. DB55 Says:

    I done wrestled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale;
    handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail;
    only last week, I murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalised a brick;
    I’m so mean I make medicine sick.

    – A Bad Bad Man

    PS. They kinda resemble each other. Ali wasn’t in Alabama in the spring of 93 was he?

  7. Buc1987 Says:

    I can think of only a few things that I liked about the 70’s.

    Ali is one of them.

  8. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Remembering the Turbulent 60’s
    Per – Mohammed Ali

    “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go ten thousand miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Black People in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?

    No, I am not going ten thousand miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would put my prestige in jeopardy and could cause me to lose millions of dollars which should accrue to me as the champion.

    But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is right here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality…

    If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. But I either have to obey the laws of the land or the laws of Gods. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail. We’ve been in jail for four hundred years.”

    No matter what Race – creed – or Color you are – Don’t stop fighting

  9. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    R.I.P Champ.. I’ll be looking for you on the other side when it’s my time to make that journey one-day.

  10. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    My Favorite 9 Muhammed Ali Qoutes

    Muhammad Ali > Quotes

    “You lose nothing when fighting for a cause … In my mind the losers are those who don’t have a cause they care about.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “The Service you do for others is the rent you pay for your room here on Earth.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “The man with no imagination has no wings.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “If my mind can conceive it, and my heart can believe it – then I can achieve it.”
    ― Muhammad Ali,

    “Often it isn’t the mountains ahead that wear you out, it’s the little pebble in your shoe.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion’.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    “Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they’ve been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It’s an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It’s a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.”
    ― Muhammad Ali

    *Build – Don’t Destroy

  11. BigHogHaynes Says:

    If I want to die, I’ll die here at home fighting you, you my enemy, you my opposer when I want freedom, you my opposer when I want justice, you my opposer when I want equality. R. I. P. “The Greastest Of All Times”. PS: Rumble Young Man Rumble!!! ALI, ALI, ALI!

  12. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Rumble Young Man Rumble!!!


  13. Buccfan37 Says:

    Thanks, enjoyed the Ali quotes, mostly the antiwar stance.

  14. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Your welcome Bruddah

  15. Buc1987 Says:

    LUV…Careful LUV there’s fans here that don’t like draft dodgers…

  16. Buc1987 Says:

    I’m not one of them.

    I am however against bringing up the wrongs of the past over and rover and over again. I guess you could say I want the country to “Move On”.

    I saw the first Roots too that was good enough for me. I don’t need 10 other versions to keep stirring the pot over and over again.

    I get it you we’re treated badly. I get it so much because I get it pounded onto my TV and movie screen 10-15 times year from Hollywood for the last 50 years.

    But thanks again for the revision….I needed to learn about it ONE MORE TIME!

  17. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Lol – Typical your trying to stir the pot – the hit & run.
    It was a different time in our nations history. We couldn’t drink out same water fountains, enter into the same restaurants or even use the same restrooms. The persecution at home was where the real battle was at the time. He had a cause and stood for it#RIPCHAMP

  18. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *then hit & run.

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Buc1987 Says:
    I am however against bringing up the wrongs of the past over and rover and over again. I guess you could say I want the country to “Move On”.

    I saw the first Roots too that was good enough for me. I don’t need 10 other versions to keep stirring the pot over and over again.

    I get it you we’re treated badly. I get it so much because I get it pounded onto my TV and movie screen 10-15 times year from Hollywood for the last 50 years.

    But thanks again for the revision….I needed to learn about it ONE MORE TIME!

    Wow Buddy – Thanks for letting me know – how you really feel.

  20. Buc1987 Says:

    LUV…yes and let’s remind everyone of it. Especially the younger generation so it never goes away.

    Take a count of how many movies have been cranked out about race every single year. I think it’s bad for the country. Not only bad but HORRIBLE.

    Plus I’ve had really bad insomnia for the past 2 weeks and I’m just a wee bit cranky as you can see.

    I never had this stance or position until I saw this comedian called Bill Burr. He went down the list of movies and why we didn’t need to keep reminding everyone about it. Even mentioned the movie Pride about a black swimmer who wasn’t allowed to swim with white kids…. that’s how silly it’s gotten. They stretch and stretch. They try to find ANY story they can and make a movie about it.

    Ali’s speech was great. It would be even more great if it was still the 60’s. Like I said I’m a “Move on” type of american.

    Don’t take it so personal I’d probably attack Jesus Christ if he came to my door right now with a key to Heaven.

  21. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.”

    So I’m glad there’s movies that show – just how HORRIBLELY – DISGUSTING – and INHUMAN – the pinnacles of RACISM really are. Maybe if affected you directly – you would feel differently.

  22. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Get some Sleep bruh.

    We’ll talk about this another time.

  23. salish_seamonster Says:

    @87 –

    Conservative approach to dealing with issues of race:
    1) Sweep it under the rug and pretend it isn’t there.
    2) Blame liberals for bringing it up.

  24. Pickgrin Says:

    RIP Champ. “The greatest of all time” – you “shook up the world” in more ways than one.

  25. DB55 Says:

    I watched “who to invade next” by Michael Moore. It said that in Germany they talk about WWII all the time in school. They even have signs from segregation posted throughout the city so they’ll never forget about what they did.

    I can’t say it’s true as I’ve never been to Germany but it’s interesting how the holocuast is remembered and no one I know is ready to move on from it.

    I don’t think Trump ever served in the military or Bush for that matter but they are “good enough” to be president meanwhile Ali the draft dodger may not be liked by certain people bc of his public stance against the war. I’m sure that’s the reason he’s not liked.

  26. BigHogHaynes Says:

    I was gonna get in on this one but I don’t want to be called a race baiter!@

  27. Buccfan37 Says:

    The past never goes away, it keeps repeating itself over and over. A lot of people choose to forget, full steam ahead.

  28. destinjohnny Says:

    Rip Clay
    hopefully you are with Howard messing with his hair.

  29. Buccfan37 Says:

    Ali was against the Vietnam war and spoke out against it, far from the only one opposing that action, many draftees fled to Canada in opposition, all to be pardoned by Jimmy Carter after the US left. JFK also was against escalation of the war, just one of the factors in his removal from office. LBJ immediately ramped up the US troop count after JFK’s passing. There were other political voices in opposition to the war, such as Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King that were brushed aside. The citizen unrest in the 60s was primarily the youth outcry against the war and the death of the Kennedy brothers. Muhammad Ali was the greatest boxer and one of the greatest voices of conscientious objection this nation has known.

  30. Joe Says:

    JFK also was against escalation of the war, just one of the factors in his removal from office.

    This is nothing but happy, wishful speculation. Would love to see any document signed by JFK where he wanted forces out of Vietnam. Have heard this chatter for decades but there is no evidence of that.

    Some 50 years after his death, you’d think just one document initialed or signed by JFK supporting this fairy tale would have surfaced. It hasn’t. Likely never will.

    This JFK-wanted-us-out-of-Vietnam is akin to FDR-knew-about-Pearl Harbor, yet there is zero evidence of that. Churchill, yes. FDR, no.

  31. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Joe read a book called the “Unseen hand”. You may come away feeling differently about FDR not knowing.

  32. lurker Says:

    mike evans was a really big fan of muhammad ali via pft

    he got a tattoo of him last month and tweeted the pic.

  33. lurker Says:

    via pft

    Buccaneeers wide receiver Mike Evans was such a fan of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali that Evans “like a month ago” got a tattoo of Ali on his forearm.

    Ali passed away on Friday, and like many notable athletes have done since the news of Ali’s passing broke, Evans tweeted a goodbye “to one of the greatest and most inspirational athletes of all time.” His tweet included that picture of his tattoo that you see on the right.

    Evans told Greg Auman of the Tampa Bay Times that he would go to the library with his grandmother as a child and read up on Ali, and from that reading he went from being a fan of boxing to a student of almost everything Ali did before and after his boxing career. Evans said he’s been watching a YouTube video of Ali from Gorilla Productions before every game he’s played since college.

    “All the trash-talkers in every sport, it’s because of Muhammad Ali,” Evans said. “I’m sure nobody was talking the trash he did before his time. Nobody did that. He had an impact and people don’t know it. He’s one of the best boxers of all time, and one of the most inspirational athletes, giving people motivation.”

  34. Buccfan37 Says:

    Joe, I don’t have proof that JFK wanted US troops out of Vietnam, I checked this question on the net and both sides of the arguement were presented, so it is unclear as you suggest. I read there were 17,000 US troops and advisors there in Oct. 63 with 47 dead and JFK wanted 1,000 withdrawn by the end of ’63 but kept secret from the press. Then again the president is just a figurehead and does not call the shots in war. Possibly the printing of United States Notes in 1963 outside the Fed also led to his demise.

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  36. Buc1987 Says:

    Oh the conspiracies…

  37. JarvisMoss Says:

    Jameis is cut from the same cloth as Cassius Clay and Magic Johnson. Tremendous confidence, outgoing contagious personalities, very good but not elite athletes, and an inner will to be “the greatest” at their respective sports.

  38. Mike Johnson Says:

    I see a little of that Ali swagger in jameis. In his competitiveness. But there is no comparison. Time were quite different then. And Ali..seized the moment (s)
    You either loved him or hated him. My dad, hated him because of his mouth. I liked him because he spoke out and up..for his people. The man captivated me because a black man was not suppose to be as arrogant as he was. He was arrogant and he backed it up for a long time. RIP ALI. You will be remembered in history.

  39. History101 Says:

    Using epithets like “draft dodger” to describe Ali is a sign of intellectual laziness. Ali refused to support or take part in a proxy war whose sole purpose was geopolitical dominance that resulted in almost 4 million deaths. Over 3 million of those deaths were Vietcongs who thought they were fighting colonial wars for their freedom – first against the French, and then against us. In no way shape, or form was the safety of this country on the line because last time I checked we lost the war. Ali took a stand based on his principles and put his livelihood and reputation on the line when most would shut up and do what they’re told. He lost his boxing license at the prime of his career and went broke fighting legal battles for 3 years until he was proven right in the supreme court. Ali’s defiance against all odds helped change history, and the whole world applauds him for it.