Smart Move By Koetter

June 6th, 2016
Smart move.

Savvy training

One thing different this summer under Dirk Koetter will be practices against different teams.

Lovie Smith hated the concept of those practices. It was one of many, many moves that backfired on Coach My Scheme.

In August, the Bucs will practice a total of four times against the Browns and Jags. Appearing on WDAE-AM 620 last week, long-time Bucs beat writer Woody Cummings believes this may be the smartest move Koetter since taking over.

“There will be a lot of 11-on-11 work,” said Cummings, also noting there will be better competition in practice.

Cummings is right. Not often does the Bucs’ first team offense go against the first team defense in training camp practices, not nearly as much as will happen in the controlled practices with the Browns and Jags.

Cummings also made another interesting point: The Bucs will play lot of teams this year that employ a 34 defense. The Browns also use a 34 defense. This will give the Bucs extra time playing against a 34 defense comprised of NFL starters, not a scout team mimicking it.

To hear more of Cummings’ take on OTA practices, click below. Audio courtesy of WDAE-AM 620.

26 Responses to “Smart Move By Koetter”

  1. Harry Says:

    One of the hardest things to accomplish in practice is making things “game like” competitive in order to get players to go at game speed – sounds easy, but very hard to do. Plus, it gives the coaches a better idea of what they really need to focus on. You do loose a little with another team in your practice as you have to do things to accommodate what they need too. But nothing can replace that competition you get from these workouts. Lovie was a huge disappointment, putting it mildly.

  2. The Buc Realist Says:

    “It was one of many, many moves that backfired on Coach My Scheme.”

    My question is what went right for The Incompetent one???? When it came to backfiring, he batted 1000%!!!!!! If not for the soft schedule last year, he would have been totally exposed of how bad a coach he really was!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Dean Says:

    I have really been studying why Lovie was such a disaster as a head coach. He had years and years of experience and input from some very bright coaches as he shaped his philosophy.
    It has to come down to one of 2 things. #1. He was a one trick pony. He only knew one way to do things and when that went south, he was dead.
    #2. He was an ego-maniac that thought his way was the only way and refused to change or just couldn’t make adjustments.
    Either way, he was a disaster who operated an antiquated system that didn’t work and wouldn’t change.

  4. Buc1987 Says:

    Realist he was exposed in week 1.

  5. Buc1987 Says:

    I wonder if it’s going to rain today…

  6. The Buc Realist Says:


    He was exposed year 1 when he brought in his free-agents and handed out starting jobs!!!!!

    But there are a couple of sheep that still think that this team was on the verge of the playoffs this past year and then “it fell apart”!!! They do not understand that the schedule was historically soft and then finally the Bucs played some average teams and exposed the incompetent one!!!! If he was still here the bucs would be predicted to win 3-4 games this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    This team will be built in the mode of the New England Patriots. If Belichek does it I’m all for it. Some of you say Belicheat. I call it Gangsta.

  8. Brian Craig Says:

    Coach Koetter is brilliant! We haven’t had the first snap of his first season as head coach yet, but I’m willing to bet that in a few years from now, he will be widely considered the team’s best head coach ever! My prediction after this season: Bucs offense #3 in the league, Bucs defense, 11th best.

  9. Bucsfanman Says:

    I can’t wait for the season to start so that we can stop looking back at what was and focus on what IS.
    Koetter’s saying and doing all the right things so far. I’m geeked!

  10. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Fanman it says a lot about those that do that. Especially the one’s obsessed with the last headman. Buccs,money and females are my only obsessions. Obsessing over a man everyday. Peculiar.

  11. mark2001 Says:

    Sorry Harry…. Lovie didn’t exceed or fall short of my expectations…he was exactly what I said he would be…what he was in Chicago…no more…no less.

    With many new and young player assessments, a new D system, and important personnel decisions on the horizon, I think it is a great idea.

  12. Bucsfanman Says:

    @Nole- For real, I mean Lovie be damned. I could care less right now. I want to see how we stack up against those 3-4s with JW and company. Also, how will our defense look against Jax and Cleveland?
    Like I said, he’s doing the right things. Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect! I like that we’re going to be beating up on other guys.

  13. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    What’s the over under on the number of fights? I’m thinking…four days..two different teams….five should be a good number.

  14. Caleb Says:

    @Brian Craig

    So, just you’re aware, we finished 5th overall in offense (you have us finishing two spots higher), and we finished 10th overall on defense (you have us to finish 11th, one spot lower). I’m just trying to understand your logic here.

    We went 6-10 last year with those numbers, overall stats don’t matter. Turnovers forced, more points scored, and less points giving up(we were 27th in the league in points allowed). Oh, and how could I forget, penalties! Must do much better here as well(last in the league with most penalties).

    So I guess all in all Craig, as great as your placements for us to finish in overall stats sound, they at the end of the day don’t translate to wins buddy.

    Hey hey Tampa Bay, the Bucs are gonna shine!

  15. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Schiano also did joint practices. His 2nd season didn’t really benefit from that… I don’t think it will hurt, but lots of teams do joint practices. Just another way to practice and get away from the redundancy of going up against the same guys. I’m more interested in seeing what they do different in a game that matters.

  16. Buccaneers Says:

    Im sure the players will appreciate this. Practice can become very tedious without competition. I would think this will help them keep focused and keep their competitive spirits high…….if they even think about laxing the joint practices will kick them in the azz.

  17. Mike Johnson Says:

    The only so called smart move by Koetter I want to hear about is..Winning games. Getting us to the playoffs and to the point of respectability. Now that would be smart! Everything else is just a pat on the back for..nothing done yet.
    I want to see proof we are better. I’m waiting…..

  18. The Buc Realist Says:

    It might just be a pat on the back now, But everything lovie the Incompetent one was doing was a facepalm every time and lots of head shaking of!!!! coach my scheme was charile brown of all HC/Gm’s!!!!!!!!!

  19. Caleb Says:

    I like where your mind is at @Mike Johnson. I can dig that for sure.

  20. Caleb Says:

    Hey hey Tampa Bay, the Bucs are gonna shine!

    Forgot to put that in my last message, lol

    Not that any of you care.

  21. Buccaneers Says:

    Caleb…..ha ha ha, are you chanting the warcry from an awful Buc era?

    And realist get a clue. Your a knee jerk fan it’s Obvisous. Do some math, the Bucs being run by incompetence over the last two years would only lead to one result…….it would mean we are still a bad football team needing to be rebuilt. Do you think we are rebuilding?

  22. BigHogHaynes Says:

    Practice, are we still talking practice, lots of teams do it, it’s nothing new but there is only one Super Bowl Champion, if that’s Coach K’s way, then it’s ok but don’t act like that will give us a win during the regular season: to the few that continue to BASH, LOVIE (let me state that he didn’t get it done or show enough improvement fast enough for the masses and we all know The Glazer’s are intune to the masses) he gone, took it like a man and moved on, never a bitter word….no never a word but 87 and the RealBigot still got a tast for LOVIE. If we don’t win 9 games, this staff should get another year to be fair, unless we show signs of regression. I’m here …….

  23. Mike Johnson Says:

    Poor Buc Realist. Wetting his pants as usual. Baby pacifiers and diapers are on sale at wallyworld pal.

  24. Caleb Says:


    Indeed I am, lol

    And I echo… Hey hey Tampa Bay, the Bucs are gonna shine!!!

  25. drdneast Says:

    You forgot one very important reason DEAN.
    I believe Lovie lost his interest in the game.
    I think Lovie was more concerned about getting and keeping his son employed that he was about producing a winning team.
    Oh don’t get me wrong, Lovie surely would have loved to have won, but only under his terms and conditions as you noted.
    I was one of those who defended Smith up to the Washington game but after that losing debacle, I jumped off the Lvvie Smith train.
    That was his defense, players and his calls that led to the collapse and it was on his shoulders.
    When all the national media critics started crying about his dismissal it made me want to crack their skulls with a hammer.
    Sure, why not keep him another year, it’s not costing them any money while I shell out close to a $1K a year to watch the buffoon let one bad call after another rain down on his team without giving the refs any heat for calling a bad game because he really didn’t care that much.
    Adios, Lovie, we hardly knew ye.

  26. Caleb Says:

    Can we get off this Lovie bs, seriously, we get it. Most didn’t like him, ok, his gone so move the fuk on. Smh.