Calming Words For Aguayo Haters

April 30th, 2016
History suggests Roberto Aguayo will be just fine.

History suggests Roberto Aguayo will be just fine.

Of course, Joe has noticed fan freakout because the Bucs traded back into the second round to acquire record-setting kicker Robert Aguayo of Florida State.

Sure, Joe thinks Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht may have paid a stiff price. But you know what? Who cares if Aguayo works out?

But for the haters, Joe has words that should soothe your raw nerves. NFL Network shared a graphic last night when Aguayo was drafted. You can see it on Justin Pawlowski’s website,

Only three kickers have been drafted higher than Aguayo. All three have had solid if not excellent careers.

Sebastian Janikowski was the 17th overall pick in the 2000 draft. He’s still with the team that drafted him, the Raiders. He is arguably one of the NFL’s greatest kickers. He is entering his 17th NFL season.

Mike Nugent was the 47th pick in 2005. He’s bounced around a bit and flamed out with a cup of coffee with the Bucs in 2009, but he has found a solid home in Cincinnati. A 10-year career and still going? Not too shabby.

Jason Hanson was selected 56th overall by the Lions in 1992. He lasted 20 years — 20 years! — all with Detroit.

If Aguayo lasts 10 years, that’s a nice career and likely means he will make a lot of big time kicks. Shoot, Martin Gramatica was the best kicker in Bucs history, many believe. He was drafted in the third round and lasted just six years with the Bucs and nine overall in the NFL.

Remember: Kickers are weapons. Kickers score points.

83 Responses to “Calming Words For Aguayo Haters”

  1. pete Says:

    Giving up a high 3rd round pick and a high 4th round pick was crazy price to pay for a kicker.

  2. pete Says:

    That said – I think Bucs are improved at Edge rusher, Corner and Kicker!

  3. Magic Marpet Says:

    I like the move. It’s not like we have depth or stability at the position. You can’t pay too much for good players. I think he’s going to be good. It’s an important position. If we didn’t take him and he was sinking game winning field goals for someone else we’d all be kicking ourselves. You guys need to chill.

  4. Christina Says:

    I love the pick! We need a kicker that’s money for many years to come didn’t fans get a nasty taste of how bad life can be without one last season?!? Ugh smh

  5. Name Required Says:

    I like the move. No matter what the fans believe, they know exactly how it feels when a kicker has a bad game. A reliable kicker will get you those points on the board. Extra points aren’t gimmes anymore.

  6. Dooshlarue Says:

    It wasn’t a popular pick but I think it’s a very good pick.
    Kickers score points, some score lots of points.
    Points are good.
    Points win games.
    I like points

  7. CaptBUC Says:

    With our struggles inside the 20 yard line you would think people would get it. Now anytime we are inside the 35 yard line it’s almost an automatic 3 points at the very least.
    To my recollection didn’t we lose a couple games last year because of a missed FG or 2 ?????

  8. Mord Says:

    If they framed it as “Using our first three picks, we got Vernon Hargreaves, Noah Spence and Roberto Aguayo” would it sound better?

    Feels like a pretty good deal, overall. While people focus on the need for this year’s draft to bolster the defense, the idea of adding a scoring weapon to special teams seems wise, too.

  9. cometowin2 Says:

    I desperately wanted Roberto in the 5th round so it’s just a little early for it. 4th rounder that we used to move up was a gift anyway. We got the most accurate kicker in NCAA history for a 3rd rounder. Time to move to acceptance.

    DT’s Billings or Day with the 4th.
    WR Pharoh Cooper with the 5th
    FB’s Baby Gronk or Vitale with one of the 6ths. Use the other 6th to move up with Cleveland to secure the DT or top safety left. I would rather move Banks to safety but…

    Go Bucs!!!

  10. SteveK Says:

    This is a great pickup. I was shocked to see Aguayo was picked in the 2nd round, but props to Licht and Co. for being bold and improving our team.

    We lost a lot of games because of skeptical kicking. Aguayo is very valuable, and I hope the young man has a successful, long Buccaneer career.

  11. Architek Says:

    Brilliant pick – there’s a reason Licht is the GM and we are just fans.

  12. SteveK Says:

    This is a great pickup. I was shocked to see Aguayo was picked in the 2nd round, but props to Licht and Co. for being bold and improving our team.

    We lost a lot of games because of skeptical kicking. Aguayo is very valuable, and I hope the young man has a successful, long Buccaneer career.

  13. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Time will tell, but I wonder why he’s regressed over past two seasons.

  14. Dreambig Says:

    Pete, not just a kicker. The BEST kicker in all of college football. Did you even read Joe’s article? Have you listened to Licht describe why they made the pick? Did you hear Koetter say the best kicker in college football history doesn’t come around very often? Kickers score points, lots of them. Making sure you have a great one is just plain smart!

  15. Tom Oliver Says:

    I guess many of you failed math class. We started the night with picks in rounds 1 2 3 4. We ended picking 1 2 2 4. Don’t you see how that works?

  16. Magic Marpet Says:

    We were 30th in the league in field goal percentage. We missed three extra points. I’m very happy we lost a fourth round pick to take the most accurate kicker in ncaa history.

  17. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    “If they framed it as “Using our first three picks, we got Vernon Hargreaves, Noah Spence and Roberto Aguayo” would it sound better?”

    Fans don’t question the player…..the question the price..

    Would anyone question staying at 9 and not getting the 4th rounder…..No
    Would anyone question using the 4th rounder to move up for Spence….No

    You have to look at the 3 players we got in the first three rounds….so far, so good!!!

    And, I am a Connor Barth fan….he lives in my hometown in NC and I have an autographed football on my mantel. Good luck Connor….thanks for being a Buc.

  18. MOBucs Says:

    Not a fan of the pick, but a lot of folks are getting the details of the trade wrong. The Bucs didn’t give up 2 picks to move up. They SWAPPED their 3rd round pick for KCs 2nd.

  19. SteveK Says:

    Aguayo is the most accurate kicker in college football history, successfully converting 267 of his 276 kicks at Florida State.

  20. JabooBuc Says:

    I have warmed up to this pick. With the rule changes placing a premium on accurate kicking, I think it does make a lot of sense. Also, the reality is we used our 3rd round pick on him which is where he was projected to go. Licht used his extra 4th to secure the deal which is smart. It’s easy to say we reached but it’s very likely someone was going to take him in the 3rd so why not secure your pick.

    Finally, this draft seems like it’s filled with players with 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round grades. Meaning we are likely to fill a need with our other 4th and possible the 5th. So, if Licht gets 4 starters once again in this draft then he has done another excellent job.

  21. Eric Says:

    Like a GM is ever gonna say they blew it. The day after a draft selection. Every GM in the league is bragging about their picks today, as they have since the draft was invented.

    But all the smoke in the world can’t hide that this was an idiotic move.

  22. @Hands2theface Says:

    Unless some bad happens, all three drafted thus far, will be starters and contribute. Couldn’t say that in years past. Licht is doing well and I think the real proof to how well he does in this draft is what he does today.

  23. Power Vapor Says:

    Sebastian Janikowski was drafted 2000 / Round: 1 / Pick: 17 Was that First round pick worth it for the Raiders?
    If Robert Aguayo is here that long he will be a solid Round 2 pick.
    We don’t have to worry about a kicker now and with rule change this will be huge. Start counting how many W’s you can attribute to Aguayo and at the end of a long Buc it will be worth it. He would have been drafted by the Third round and not there for us.
    This draft has put the icing on the cake of a very good NFL team. Few more picks and further off season moves we will be sitting pretty start of season. Let’s stay healthy and rally around Jameis and the Bucs.

  24. JabooBuc Says:

    Eric, try answering this question honestly. If you had to bet, which of the 2nd or 3rd round picks taken last night is most likely to play in the NFL for the next 10 years? I

  25. JabooBuc Says:

    My only issue now with the pick is that people keep comparing him to Sebastian Janokowski and he is not Sebas. Sebas is a threat from anywhere inside the 50. Roberto does not have the same range.

  26. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The goal of every draft pick is to improve on a current player…..I think we have done that with our first 3 picks…..enough said…

  27. MarineBucsFan Says:

    I really like the pick. I don’t care that we traded up in the 2nd to get him. He is a lock to be a starter and improve our kicking game.

    We lost 2-3 games where poor kicking affected the outcome.

    I don’t see that any other player available would be a sure thing. Aguayo is.

  28. BucsQcCity Says:

    They must have targeted a Safety in the later round because Bell was available. I truly like Licht but it does feel like Sims move right now when obviously we needed a G.

  29. Power Vapor Says:

    No, Aguayo is deadly inside the 49. He missed a few 49+. I will compare him to SJ all day. Both elite kickers.

  30. Eric Says:

    Janikowski has not prevented the raiders from not making the playoffs since they played us in the Super Bowl.

    Outstanding kicker.

    Pathetic team. Woooo hooooo I’m sure raider fans are deliriously happy watching their great kicker.

    Maybe maybe maybe if we had a great team in place already and this was done as the final piece of the puzzle this might be acceptable.

    We’re not even close to that.

  31. Power Vapor Says:

    I wish I could unread comments. Like you crapped in my eyes. This team is a very good NFL team with a few missig pieces. We needed an accurate kicker and we got one

  32. Mike Says:

    If people like Pete would pull their heads out of their ass and realize we didn’t hive up a 3rd half of you wouldn’t be as mad. I have said this multiple times as well as the other bucs fans that can add 1+ 1, 2 + 2, etc.

  33. BillybucnBrazil Says:

    I am fine with the pick but, no one can convince me that we actually needed to trade up and waste the 4th we stole.Jason may have been celebrating the Spence pick a tad to early last night. That being said I think Roberto will be a stud for many years to come. Go Bucs. Thank God we already signed a good punter this year.

  34. ARGH_M8E Says:

    If u were @ Alstott’s ring of honor game against the Cats… You know why we made this pick.

  35. DemBoyzFromDaBay727 Says:

    This is a very underrated pick. It will pay off in the long run. Especially if this guy is still kicking for us 15 years later, shoot I think he’l be here for about 20 or so. Kickers can have the longest careers cause they don’t take a lot of wear and tare.

    With that said I like the pick but I still think we could of got him without giving up that extra 4th. And with players like WR-Pharaoh Cooper, safetys like J.Cash, K.J.Dillion, and Miles Kilebrew. And DT’s like A.Billings, H.Ridgeway, and S.Day that extra 4th could of brought us another starter on Defense. But it is what it is. At least we still have our original 4th rnd pick to take one of those guys.

  36. JabooBuc Says:

    Eric, last time I checked it’s a team sport and having a brood, if not great, kicker can cover up a lot of deficiencies. Pretty sure the Patriots have had great kicking over the past 10 years.

    Oh, and I’m sure whatever Safety or DT we would have picked up in the 3rd round was going to be the difference maker this year.

  37. K2 Says:

    Although, I’m not a big fan of the pick…I’m still very happy to have Jason Licht calling the shots. It is amazing how many people laughed when we drafted Ali last year. They knew that picking a kicker would be highly questioned, but they still made it because they believe it’s the right call. It seems to me that the Bucs are finally on a winning coarse….Front office, coaches, and players. No one really knows how good or bad this pick was…and we won’t know for sometime.

  38. ARGH_M8E Says:

    Brindza is lucky I didn’t climb over the railing and drag him off the field by the collar! Smh, he was super frustrating. Im all for this pick, gotta make moves to make moves, ya?

  39. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    People are looking at this like Licht “gave up” a third rounder. He didn’t.

    He upgraded a third round pick into a second round pick, and it only cost him the extra 4th rounder he got the first day.

    I’ve been a Jason Licht basher, but this draft has won me over. He landed three guaranteed starters with three picks. Again.

    This is an amazing draft. People are just md we didn’t take the guys THEY wanted.

  40. James Walker Says:

    It’s very likely that Aguayo will decide more games than anyone else drafted this entire draft.

  41. Eric Says:

    Well when you are trying to bolster the decision by referring to the fact the great raiders lions and bengals have done it, that speaks for itself.

    Yeah the patriots had great kicking. But has Bellichick ever taken a kicker anywhere near the second freaking round?
    Packers? Steelers? Ravens?

    Any of the perennial contenders that know what they are doing?


  42. macabee Says:

    I love the pick but not the payment! That is….unless Licht had dependable G2 that someone in the late 2nd was going to take him. Then that makes the payment at least understandable. And I think in his presser Licht seemed to imply that.

    Otherwise, why not trade up in the 3rd round and give up a 5th or 6th round. Those two almost back to back 4th round picks may have been two Kwons. lol.

    For anybody that’s agonizing over the pick try to rationalize. We started the draft with 7 picks. We have made 3 picks that are all probably starters. We have 4 remaining picks left. I try to never look back. We’re still on serve as they say in tennis. And truth be told, Aguayo is a fantastic asset to have on our roster less you’ve forgotten the name Kyle Brindza.

  43. Destro44 Says:

    No offence to Gramatica but Donald Igwebuike was the best kicker in team history!

  44. Pat Says:

    This is what transpired, it is like A B C.
    Cornerback + Defensive End + Kicker = Corner end kick = GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

  45. Destro44 Says:

    Regardless of whether you like this pick, it shows a trend by Licht to make sure he gets the player he wants, not the player that falls to him, much like last year with Marpet and the early pick of D Smith. I like and respect his willingness to draft the player he wants, so far his picks have worked out all right so who am I to judge.

  46. Ed Says:

    A kicker “Gee” what grade is below “F”

  47. Illwill83 Says:

    Fans must of forgot how many games we have lost over the last two years due to kicker instability. Fans just be fans stop bitching let these guys do their jobs
    Some of you think you are the gm or the coach. No your just a fan be a fan and just enjoy the game

  48. BigHogHaynes Says:

    The BACK-STABBER, is clearly in charge, this pick may work out just fine, but what I do know is that (In Licht we Trust) is trying to make a name for himself, at the BUCS expense! Another corner should have been the pick! TRUST LICHT NOT TODAY!!

  49. Rswag Says:

    Dumb pick, plain and simple. You have other needs for players who actually play and can get the ball moves to a place where the kicker actually has a role. Remind me again, just how successful have the raiders been now? Oh, but that kicker is so gooooooood. Ever notice how he doesn’t lead kickers in scoring much? Huh, wonder why that could be? It’s odd, when you go check to see what kickers have been near the top in scoring yearly, you see that Gostkowski from New England a lot near the top. Huh, wonder why that could be to? You gotta have the team to make an impact for the kicker to have his chance. Sorry, a kicker there doesn’t improve your team one bit. Are you gonna tell me the raiders made it to the super bowl against us solely because of janikowski? Haha, this is knowing football? I’m not taking anything away from Janikowski. He’s a great percentage kicker and he sure can boom it, but not even he was worth a first round provided, the raiders lack if winning in that amount of years he’s been there. They have been dreadful, we have been dreadful at times. I’m all for getting a solid kicker, but in the second round? 3rd round? Makes absolutely no sense. You’re getting close to where the players are getting picked on the draft, that don’t make it and you want to waste it on a kicker? I don’t know.

  50. Pvine Says:

    Look, the Bucs went into the draft with a plan to pick the three that they have now. They used the 3rd pick as a 2nd and gave up a 4th that was added earlier.
    It’s not a big deal. Again, they got what they wanted so far. Just calm down folks! The Bucs are going to be vastly improved…..and, with a great kicker too boot!

  51. Brendan Says:

    We didnt give up anything. We swapped picks. And used the pick we got for dropping in from 9 to 11. So I dont see this “high price we paid”

  52. martinii Says:

    It will take a few days to digest, I suppose.It was joe’s last comment that resonated “Remember: Kickers are weapons. Kickers score points.” I just didn’t see it coming.

  53. Kevin Says:

    Guys kickers are now at a premium and that 4th rounder was absolutely FREE!!!

    Extra points have been moved back permanently and kickoff touchbacks are giving up a quarter of the field rather than the fifth. Team will now NEED a kicker who can put it up high, accurately and inside the five yard line.

    Jason Licht is smart, he knows that with our defense sure to play much better, and our offense in it’s second year being ran 100% by Koetter that this team will be playing much closer games. You only need to win or lose by ONE POINT!!!

    I’m not crazy about the pick but I do 100% understand why it was made. Good job Licht now go get Moritz Boehringer with our No.4!!!!!

  54. MakeBucsGreatAgain Says:

    I love this draft so far. I know plan was for defense line help but secondary and kicker are the most obvious needs. Like its been pointed out, if we had a kicker we would have done things differently and won more games last two seasons. Now we can.

  55. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    didn’t fans get a nasty taste of how bad life can be without one last season?!? Ugh smh

    Exactly Christina! I tried to figure how many more games we would have won and two is a conservative figure.

    Although speaking of conservative…if Coach “My Scheme” had Aguayo last year he may have never attempted to score another TD. Just play for the 3 and let his majestic Defense do the rest. Yeah that’s the ticket.

    Meanwhile with Koetter and #3 they will not be looking for FG’s. Still nice to be able to kick one when you need it though. And of course our D just improved by adding Aguayo…7th in the nation in opponents start points after KO’s. Those kind of stats add up and make a difference over an entire season.

    Aguayo is the ONLY player we could have drafted to improve our offense and our defense,

  56. passthebuc Says:


  57. rayjay1122 Says:

    The trade was savvy. The 106th pick we got from the Bears was to trade back 2 slots and we used that to trade up 15 spots and into the 2nd round from the 3rd. We still have our 108th pick, so still a high 4th round selection. Now the question is was the player worth the move? I thinks so since kickers can affect a game especially now more than ever. So, lets just say he would have been available with our original 74th pick which is a big if, we would have taken him then and still had the 106th pick from the Bears. OK, so who is the game changing phenom with pick# 106 that we lost out on??? Names please instead of complaints. I will take the dependable kicker over a back up DL or DB any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

  58. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    By the way some of you are embarrassing yourselves. I’ve read more than one poster over the past two days pointing out that…look at the Raiders record…Janikowski didn’t make a difference. DUH

    Football is a team sport!!! How many MORE games would Oakland have lost if they didn’t have Janikowski!!!

    So Ernie Banks was a horrible shortstop because look at the Cubs record all those years? C’mon man you can do better guys. Think this through. I swear I think some of you just want something to beotch about!!!

    As for WHERE we took Aguayo….Belicheat had TWO picks before ours. Do we think Lichts has any friends left in NE….perhaps has any insight into Belicheats thinking.

    Bottom line guys…beotch all you want…most of us here trust Licht far more than our own opinions and certainly more than some of the keyboard commandos here.

  59. The Buc Realist Says:

    In about 2 hours Pablo is going to come out of his Tequila Coma and realize that he can have a Jersey and Player he can finally cheer for!!!!

  60. Buc1987 Says:

    He did have a rough 2015. That’s what I think is escaping everyone. He wasn’t “automatic” like he was in years past for the Noles.

    So there’s that.

  61. James Walker Says:

    The old-school ignorance of “kickers are not important” has been DISPROVED by data metrics of the NFL. This is the 21st century NFL people. Kickers ARE important.

  62. rayjay1122 Says:

    @87…he had a rough 2015 because Winston was absent. Problem solved. 🙂

  63. CalBucsFan Says:

    And as the sportscaster gets closer to his microphone with anticipation he says, “Licht has the bases loaded again…’s a full count to the batter…..and here comes the pitch ….it’s right over the plate, the batter swings……and…….COULD IT BE? IT’S GOT THE DISTANCE…..GOOOOO BALL GOOOOO……LICHT MIGHT HAVE DONE IT AGAIN!!!…..”, there’s a pause, the crowd holds it’s collective breath and the sportscaster says, “back after the following commercial”.

    Stay tuned, it’s a new season. Go Bucs!

  64. Poor Glennon Says:


  65. GO BUCS Says:

    3 Starters is what we’ve done, isn’t that the goal of every NFL team?

    I know most everyone hates this pick because it’s so high, but after looking at who was picked in the 3rd round, I’m glad the Bucs jumped up to get him. I really couldn’t pick out more than 3 guys who could actually start for their teams. They really only lost that extra pick the Bears gave them, and they chose a position player that has grown in importance since last year. The Browns new GM also knew this and he certainly would have chosen Aguayo in the 3rd. He is the ultimate numbers guy, but Licht was able to beat him to the punch. Plus, it wouldn’t be a Buccaneer draft without a Florida State player! Way to go Bucs! Their draft is going just as planned and they are getting the players they want. Unfortunately, the rest of the draft has very few potential pros, but I think they could find a future starting RT, DT, or Safety in the 4th.


  66. SOGGY Says:

    Coaches can gamble a lot more with the play calling when you have a great kicker. Just sayin.. You don’t have to play it safe all the time because you don’t trust your kicker. Love the job our war room has done = 3 great picks, Now lets kick some butt today.. Go Bucs..

  67. Willy D Buc Says:

    It’s a wise move by Licht…and Pablo will be ecstatic!

  68. Buccfan37 Says:

    Yeah, those extra points add up. I saw VH3 talking last night on tv sports. The first time I’ve seen him. He did look smallish just from the head shot. He reminds me of Stymie from the little rascals.

  69. Waterboy Says:

    I like the pick. Licht basically upgraded the 3rd rd pick using the 4th received from Chicago to get him. So I see it as Tampa’s 3rd rd pick.

  70. Poor Glennon Says:

    Love this “the 4th round pick was a freebe acquired on day 1” like it was a coupon or something. No it is an actual football player. Let’s say we did not trade up. We take him in the third. Ya i know the rumour was out that some team was gunna draft him. But BS runs ramped at the draft. This senerio lands us another player with our first 4th round pick. I would not trade up or select a kicker. Instead in the 3rd we select Calhoun DE. Then with our coupon we select 1 Peake WR or Westerman G or Henery DE. There is a free agent kicker out there that will have better accuracy on 40+. I’d bet money on it. FSU fans step off. If we took the FSU waterboy in the 6th. You guys would call it a great pick.

  71. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo has been posting his excitement for this pick in other articles…..Pablo may be solely responsible for the majority of ticket sale increases if Pablo is able to afford bringing his many, many, many children to the games. (Pablo will need more big tips from 87 and at least a peso from the Realist.
    Pablo is very grateful to Hason Licht (Viva Hason)….Pablo can no longer whine about no amigos on the Bucs….
    Now…Buc fans will see …..>>> WHAT BROWN CAN DO FOR YOU!!”

  72. iamkingsu Says:

    You’ll just don’t value all picks. 1st through 4th rounders are gold in the nfl. You just don’t give those up when you don’t have too.

  73. BucsFanFromSaintsLand Says:

    Couldn’t have said it any better CalBucsFan!

  74. Poor Glennon Says:

    Money inside the 20. Does little good when defences stop you at the 35. Soooooo much pressure on this guy too. Kickers are allready head cases. If i was a buc player knowing we have holes everywhere. I’d be pissed. They will resent this guy til he proves he’s the real deal.

  75. Poor Glennon Says:

    Seabass yes. If your kicker has a good chance from 60 yards. You take him in the second round. That’s getting the ball just past midfield inside the 45. Not this clown…… have to get it to the 35 to have a 60% chance at a 50 yarder. Or inside the 40….ya he’s 💰. So if he hits 95% inside the 40. Making him the most accurate short kicker in the NFL. But. 14-20 from 40-50. And 4-10 from beyond 50. Is this acceptable? Not for me. We almost have to keep Barth for 50+. Sad stuff.

  76. Poor Glennon Says:

    Ive got it. Our new kickers nickname…………….fellow countryman Eric Estrata stared in this 80z tv series. Then with his propensity for being money on short kicks………..thats right………CHIPS.

  77. pelbuc Says:

    In hindsight, the 2nd round pick Buc fans should be mad about is that dufus ASJ from a couple of years ago.

  78. BUC IT Says:

    remember these names…. Vonn Bell, James Bradberry and Cyrus Jones. These were the best available players when we made “the move”. 2 of these guys are now in our division. Hopefully we don’t regret this. Who knows maybe this kicker will win us a SuperBowl. We are in the middle of the 4th and another Kicker still hasn’t been taken. This move was the worst pick I’ve ever seen the bucs make. Very disappointed. Licht doesn’t something stupid like this again and I really do feel like he should be on the hot seat. Its just a crazy stupid decision.

  79. BUC IT Says:

    I would still rather have ASJ then a kicker in the 2nd round. And for the record when ASJ is on the field he is a beast. If he can keep a healthy year…. big IF but if he did he could have 1000 yard and 6-7 TD year. I’d rather that upside than a kicker

  80. old buc fan Says:

    The problem isn’t the kicker, he is a good one. The problem is we have much greater needs and lost a 4th rounder also. I don’t even want to here that it was a free pick because that is just plain stupid. Yes I will support him but we could have done so much better.

  81. Duke Says:

    If you consider that 1 out of 4 games is won/lost by <3 pts and on avg 8 of 16 games played each week have a margin of victory <10 pts. A kicker has the opportunity to win an additional 4 games per season. 10-6 v 6-10. Obviously, it's about averages but the averages are consistent yr after yr.

    No question the pick is more about other factors, players and opportunities vs

    selecting a guy who may have been available later.

    If the net wins move up and the scores are consistent with previous years, he'll be a huge reason why. Again, avgs + time, no way to say definitely.

  82. Rod Munch Says:

    Grrrr I’m angry. Grrrr

  83. Mike Johnson Says:

    Don’t be angry! Yes, Mike Johnson considers this to of our best picks!! Kid is young. Very young. His legs will develop. He will get stronger with coaching. An..INVESTMENT..for an all time future kicker. Like the Raders and Eagles did..back in the day. Kid can kick. Its his destiny!! And we will pull us thru in the close games.