“This Type Of Production’s Hard To Come By”

March 7th, 2016
Big voices are clamoring for Doug Martin

Big voices are clamoring for Doug Martin

One of the most critical, ex-player analysts around is in Doug Martin’s corner.

Former Saints Pro Bowl fullback Heath Evans is among the crankiest talking suits on NFL Network, and he usually is anti-Bucs.

Joe believes the Bucs hate grew because Evans didn’t like the insider reports he got from friend and former Bucs guard Carl Nicks, and Evans just dislikes like the Bucs going back to his playing days in the NFC South.

But Evans is all-in on Martin for 2016. You can see in this video.

Evans says Martin had a lot working against him with bad offensive lines and, presumably, garbage quarterbacks during Martin’s two poor seasons with Tampa Bay.

The Bucs paying and retaining Martin is a no-brainer, Evans said, “this type of production’s hard to come by.”

Joe won’t dare argue that. The NFL only had seven 1,000-yard rushers last year, and Martin ripped off more than 1,400 yards. He was leaps and bounds ahead of most of his peers at the position. What a weapon he was!

Gone are the days when the NFL had 16 guys rushing for 1,000 yards or more. Yes, back in 2005, for example, there were 16 running backs with 1,000+ yards, including Cadillac Williams for the Bucs.

One could argue that in an era that devalues running backs, Martin is more valuable than ever.

26 Responses to ““This Type Of Production’s Hard To Come By””

  1. Another J Says:

    mankins just retired; Maybe we can use some of that new found cap space to resign Dougie!

  2. WelshBuc Says:

    If not re-signing Martin is about the money. It would be totally inexcusable from the Bucs not to re-sign him now with the cap space they’re saving from Carter & Mankins. Using a draft pick to replace DM would literally be a total waste. Even more so now with the need to add depth at Guard.

    I will be physically sick if he’s not a Buc by Wednesday. Get it done Licht.

  3. LargoSamIM Says:

    Okay…okay… I understand your rationalization of the two HORRIBLE years that Martin had…. maybe you are right…. but that doesn’t make anyone who disagrees with you an idiot (or sleeping).

  4. biff barker Says:

    Prepare to be sick. The Bucs purposely low balled Martin hoping he goes elsewhere.

  5. Mojiska Says:

    Losing Martin requires either paying someone else or picking up someone in the draft. Even if they expect Sims to carry the load, another quality backup or short distance guy is needed. Why hope a new guy can play in this system when you know Martin can run VERY WELL in this system? Paying demarco money to keep a known runner wouldn’t be crazy.

  6. biff barker Says:

    BTW Joe, I don’t care what any stinkin’ ex Aint says. I hate everything about that team.

  7. BigHogHaynes Says:

    I’m paying attention to the situation we have at running back, if I was DOUGI, I would get the hell out of the BIG SOMBRERO, this organization does not respect its ELITE BLACK BALL PLAYERS!!! TRUTH BE TOLD!!

  8. Tampa Tony Says:

    Good players leave here on a routine basis what’s new?

    Same old Bucs

  9. DB55 Says:

    A dime a dozen according to the experts.

  10. DB55 Says:


    Only if they have a big beautiful smile like Jameis.

  11. Guzzie Says:

    He wants $8 million a year, no thanks, drafting Ezekiel Elliott is drafting the best player available, all other elite prospects should be gone by 9, imagine getting a faster leveon bell for the next 8 years, with a great complimentary Charles sims, a true number 1 WR, a monster tight end, and a young offensive line barring injuries Tampa would have the nucleus to compete for championships for the next 12-15 years, we can use the next 5 drafts on mostly defensive players

  12. BucFan20 Says:

    Pimps still trying to play the race card. Be it a coach or a player it will never change. Give it up. If that was the truth Jameis would not be here.

  13. Fsuking Says:

    It would be a losing argument. Team realize that A, your running back will probably get hurt. B, 6 other guys on waivers could hit 4 yards a carry. And C, those millions are much better spent on the guy in front of your RB who creates the running lanes. Bobby Rainey can run for 4.5 ypc, Chuck can either rip off a 10 yarder or get stopped at the line and Matt Forte or Arian Foster would be great stop-gaps until Dalvin Cook Blesses us with his infinite ability.

  14. Fsuking Says:

    And stop with the Ezikiel Elliot talk. Spending a top 10 pick on Elliot would be dumber than giving Doug Martin a baseball contract (10 years $240 million or so). Next years draft has 2 running backs that were better as true freshman than Elliot will ever be. If I need to name them for you, you must not watch college football.

  15. gotbbucs Says:

    Mike Tolbert and a mid round draft pick.

  16. DougieCan Says:

    If the Bucs screw this up and let Martin go I will be PIS**D. There is no excuse in the world for not signing Martin as long as he’s not asking more than 7.5 million.

  17. BucFan20 Says:

    Fsuking what is your point? I don’t. Does that make me less of a man. 99% of the players can’t even get to the NFL. And I have seen better high school players that don’t just don’t get scholarships or have the money to go to college.

  18. Destinjohnny Says:

    Glazers don’t know what they are doing

  19. Guzzie Says:

    Fsuking…dalvin cook and Leonard fournette are both great backs, no guarantee the Bucs will get to draft either back, but the Bucs will have a shot at zeke, no Martin who’d you rather draft? Bosa Stanley Buckner Ramsey Tunsil and Elliott are the only elite prospects, would rather a slow small CB or a one year wonder Clemson DE Dodd/Lawson or slow Spence, there are plenty DE that have as good or better potential like shilique Calhoun Emmanuel Ogbah Kamelie Correa Charles Tapper, only other player worth that pick is Rankins but there are 7 other DTs rated about the same, and Eli Apple, Kendall Fuller, William Jackson have better height and speed than little Hargreaves/Alexander, and losing Doug would make RB a need position, but yeah let’s just reach for DE that won’t be very productive anyways, rookie DE always start off slow

  20. Mike Johnson Says:

    Tampa don’t care about keeping real good players. They want..bargain basement players to go along with their..Bargain basement losing mentality.
    many a good player have left our Bucs during our history and won Superbowls.
    Running backs are a dime a dozen right? Until you really need one who can break tackles and are momentum changers. PAY THE MAN, YOU CHEAPO BUCS!!

  21. Guzzie Says:

    One other thing how much does the number 9 pick get for the next 5 years? I know it’s well under the 5 year $40 million Doug Martin wants (Demarco Murray)

  22. Guzzie Says:

    I say we sigh foster and draft Elliott with Sims that would be a monster backfield the next couple years

  23. Nick2 Says:

    If you think of it, its a no brainer. We don’t have a huge salary for our QB and we have one of the youngest teams in the league. If we just won a superbowl or were chalked full of veterans like the Packers or Pats I might understand but we have no excuse not to sign Doug Martin. If hes in the same shape he was last season (lean and mean) pay the man the damn money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Bucsfanman Says:

    I don’t think that anyone can argue that Jameis success (?) was directly related to a solid running game. You can’t have one without the other, I don’t care what anybody says!
    Losing Martin takes us a step back, whereas signing him keeps the wheels turning full speed. Can he be replaced? Sure, but at what price.

  25. BigHogHaynes Says:

    @BucFan20: Pimps, I don’t need to say no more, except LOVIE goy JAMEIS here!!

  26. BigHogHaynes Says:

    You guys just don’t get DOUGI is our guy, our #1 back, our workhorse, we wanted him, we drafted him, he showed up and played big for us as a rooki, then injuries and bad O-line play, then the proverbial carrot, he bit it and ran off some 1400 yards with only slightly better O-line play, now comes the back peddling, the disrespect, the none sense of a dime a dozen, do what it takes to take care of DOUGI why? Every man in your locker room is watching!!