Odd Guard Out

March 10th, 2016
Where do the dominoes fall?

Where do the dominoes fall?

So unless the Bucs make a trade, it seems they have one more starting guard than necessary.

For months, Joe was told by Bucs sources, almost as if it was a foregone conclusion, that Logan Mankins’ successor already was on the roster. That man’s name is Kevin Pamphile.

Then the Bucs go out and grab right guard J.R. Sweezy last night. Oh, and they have budding stud Ali Marpet at right guard already.

Well, the Bucs sure as hell didn’t drop $32.5 million in Sweezy’s lap to sit on the bench.

So what — or more importantly who — gives?

Joe vividly remembers Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht saying in his post-2015 draft press conference that Marpet could play center. Now the following is sheer speculation because Joe has not spoken with any Bucs officials about it. Just trying to make sense of this.

Could it be that the Bucs plan to move Marpet to center and keep Sweezy at the only offensive position he has ever played? And they would plug Pamphile in at left guard as the team has planned for months? Or do they think Marpet is a left guard?

It seems strange to Joe that the Bucs would consider flipping a young guy like Marpet to a new position just when it seems he has right guard figured out. Besides, it wasn’t like Joe Hawley was doing a lousy job last year.

28 Responses to “Odd Guard Out”

  1. thunderchunkyPA Says:

    I know we have 2 other RT’s but Pamphile was a T at Purdue. He might be a sing guy as well. You do have a point Joe, I would not mess with the Hobart Warrior and move him.

  2. Dave Says:

    Who knows. My thought was sweezy goes to LG but Marpet has played different sides of the line in college.

  3. Joehelldeloxley Says:

    As a non specialist, according to the fact the JR Sweezy is clearly a guy for the run game, is it possbile to imagine that the right guard position could be shared between different players depending on the play or down ?

  4. darin Says:

    Good signing. N those DE’S got insane money. Cheaper to draft them, lichts specialty. I like the fact we didn’t “win” the first day of free agency. The good teams never do. Still wish we would have gotten Travis Benjamin tho. Let’s get some more FA’S on the discount and draft em baby

  5. Leighroy Says:

    I think Pamphile stays as the backup guard for both positions, and remains the 6th blocker that he excelled at last year. What’s wrong with cheap, young, & versatile depth behind Marpet and Sweazy?

    I don’t see Joe Hawley going anywhere as starting C, but wouldn’t be suprised if Evan Smith finally gets the boot.

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Pamphile provides great depth….Cherilus could be the odd man out…..we have a good mixture of veterans & younger players.

  7. Buc Neckid Says:

    Problems like this are good to have

  8. James Says:

    Does Marpet have a nickname yet? He gets mentioned here a lot so I think it’s time he gets a nickname. I seen Hobart Warrior, however I’m throwing my hat in for The Hobart Hooligan!

  9. biff barker Says:

    Pamphile is the new swing guy. Agree. I do think Hawley emerges at center too.

    Licht learned his craft from New England Joe. Take what he says with not a single grain of salt, but from the great salt lake.

    The Martin deal was a great example. Many thought, including me, that the deal was much further apart than we expected.

  10. Big Marlon B Says:

    @ Joehelldeloxley says:

    “As a non specialist, according to the fact the JR Sweezy is clearly a guy for the run game, is it possbile to imagine that the right guard position could be shared between different players depending on the play or down ?”

    absolutely no chance of that happening. they aren’t paying this guy 6+ mil a year to play split snaps. and the obvious issue with that would be from a strategic standpoint. imagine you’re a defensive linemen or a D coordinator. if you see 2 players rotating snaps on the offensive line, wouldn’t it become a bit obvious to you what the current play call is?? when the run guy comes in, you know it will be a run. when the other guy comes in, gee i wonder what they are gonna do.

    i can’t believe i actually sat here and wasted 2 minutes giving a logical response to that.

  11. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    James many of us go with “Mongo”..

  12. martinii Says:

    Keep them all. Its a long season, Jameis is worth it, we still have more cap space than we can possibly spend, and like Buc Neckid said problems like this are “Good.”

  13. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Donald Penn is still available…..just sayin

  14. Guzzie Says:

    So happy we get to talk about our big FA signing backup guard, maybe we sign a kicker next, that’d be a hoot

  15. MadMax Says:

    My guess is Marpet will be playing LG and Pamphile will backup. He could also play bu at RG if Sweezy were to go down. Center wouldnt be ideal I dont think since he’s already experienced on the left side (and we have Hawley for that position). And bringing Sweezy in to play anything other than RG just wouldnt seem the right thing to do IMO.

  16. Guzzie Says:

    Maybe we can get mike Wallace or Percy harvin, at least give us some hope to make us excited for preseason games, not sure watching the great backup guard competition is gonna do it, we aren’t getting 4 defensive starters this year, or ever in one draft

  17. Tyree Says:

    It’s called depth. What happens when Marpet or Pamphile gets hurt. Competition is what need, not pre determined starters in March.

  18. Cobraboy Says:

    How can anyone say Sweezy is poor in pass protection when his QB constantly ran like a scalded rabbit so often. How do you design pass protection around a scrambling QB?

  19. BigHogHaynes Says:

    @Tyree: that’s how you build a great O-LINE (competition)!!

  20. Jeff Says:

    I still think they need another veteran Tackle and Center. Joe Haley is a servicable center but he’s not the future. Too small and gets pushed around a lot. He played “well” because he knew Dirk’s system.

  21. Joe Says:

    As a non specialist, according to the fact the JR Sweezy is clearly a guy for the run game, is it possbile to imagine that the right guard position could be shared between different players depending on the play or down ?

    Well, Marpet is not a part-time player and teams don’t pay Sweezy that kind of cash to be part-time players.

  22. celly Says:

    I’ve always said that I believe that Marpet has the build of a center more than a guard, and I think he would excel at that position if given the training and opportunity.

  23. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Holy crap…they paid that much for him? Wow…Jason Licht proves it wasn’t Lovie Smith who screwed up free agency!

    This guy is among the worst guards in the NFL!

  24. Juan Carlos Says:

    Sweezy has 4 years’s experience at right guard. He is a stronger run blocker than a pass protector. The left side of the line will have the stronger pass rushers. I believe he will play right guard, Marpet will play left guard. Hawley will play center. Pamphile will backup for guard and tackle positions. Offensive lineman get injured and if there is ever a position that you need depth, it’s OL.

  25. buc4life1979 Says:

    Wasn’t EDS the”odd” guard out last year? Wasn’t he recieving “starter money” to be solid depth at center and guard? Pamphile has been nothing but depth since he’s been here. Regadless of who’s starting and who’s sitting, if Team Glazer doesn’t mind paying for reseve depth that could start on another team to protoect THEIR team’s most precious assest, WHO THE HELL CARES?

  26. Tnew Says:

    If you squint when you look at him, he looks like Licht

  27. Legarrettes Blount Says:

    Joe, this article is ludicrous. Of course it’s going to be Kevin Pamphile as the odd man out. Sweezy will play left guard with Hawley at center and keep Marpet at right guard. You don’t hand Pamphile the job after ONE good game. He can be the backup guard/tackle.

  28. Capt. Tim Says:

    Marpets nickname is “The Hebrew Hammer”
    Sweeny will go to left guard, and take Logan Mankins Spot.
    Pamphile will fight for Rt spot.,if not- he is valuble as T/g backup

    Mankins was the 6 ranked guard in The NFL last year
    Big shoes to fill
    Sweeny was 66.

    Both of our outstanding Rookie linemen should be even better.
    Both showed the potential to Probowlers. Donovan Smith is an absolute Physical monster at Left Tackle. Marpet is a rhino.
    Cant believe O-line is a strenght!!
    With a soild O-line, that can provide a good run game- your Offense can always control the Clock!

    Bucs have never had a great O-line. Its a real pleasure to look fowardvto having one this year again!!