“You’re Either Going To Be Patient Or Frustrated”
November 12th, 2015
Derrick Brooks speaks to fans
Living legend Derrick Brooks made a call to Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans yesterday — and it wasn’t about making plans for a playoff run.
Brooks grabbed his Tampa-2 microphone on WDAE-AM 620 and talked about how the Bucs as a team didn’t take a step forward or backward against the Giants, more of a “side step.”
There were steps backwards and forward within the club’s performance, Brooks said, and the rollercoaster won’t end this year.
“As a fan base I would say this to our fan base: You’re gonna be patient. You’re either going to be patient or frustrated. One of the two,” Brooks said. “I would say choose [patience.]”
Brooks added that it’s easy to lose sight in losses that the Bucs have a lot of younger players improving rapidly and steadily, and red zone failures are part of the learning process. Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, needs to emphasize his timing there, Brooks added, “One-thousand-one, ball out.”
However, Brooks said the Bucs’ issues with penalties are inexcusable and have to stop immediately. Brooks stopped just short of saying Lovie Smith, his close friend, has run out of patience.
November 12th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
In 24 games Lovie’s record sits at 5 – 19. Brooks must want us to be Job-like in our Patience because that is what it will take for the Glazers to finally admit they made a mistake and fire this idiot.
November 12th, 2015 at 1:13 pm
Schiano was more successful, in half the time, with many players Lovie shipped out. Lovie is a loser.
November 12th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
They really need to change the show’s name to ” Mr Derrick Excuse Show”!!!!
November 12th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
The team I love wins 1 out of every 4 games since Lovie has been here. Brooks can stay patient, I am going to stay frustrated.
November 12th, 2015 at 1:35 pm
Great Player and Better Man but his takes on the Bucs and especially the incompetent one are irrelevant. Brooks is more of a politician than anything these days. Clinton gave a more honest assessment of her email server than Brooks has of Lovie’s coaching job.
November 12th, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Lovie has made too many awful mistakes to be given patience by the majority of the fan base. Why should us Bucs fans have to wait 4 or 5 seasons for our team to be relevant when other teams are turned around in half the time? Most of his FA’s have been busts, his staff, besides Koetter, is not impressive at all, he is a defensive minded coach, yet owns one of the worst defenses in the NFL, he has lost us games with his overly conservative, gutless playcalling in big moments, cannot manage the game with timeouts or clock management on the field.
While this year’s draft class seems promising, that is one of the only things going for Lovie. So far it seems the only things he has accomplished as Bucs coach is sucking @ss to acquire Jameis, and (possibly) fixed the O-line that he ruined in the first place.
November 12th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
MR Brooks,
I did not hear you calling for patients when Schiano was here. I did not hear you making excuses for him. But you sit there and tell the FANS to have patients, REALLY… Would you be patient with a Coach winning 4 games in 24 in the Arena League?
Mr Brooks you were a GREAT player for the Bucs, and Loved by the Fans. I know this man is your friend, But be honest LOVIE is not cutting it..
HE needs to make some changes in coaching and Win or go back to the basement. Its not the players ITS THE COACH>
November 12th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
waa waa waa guys. Shiano this Schiano that… dont you remember he actually lost the locker room
November 12th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
But still had twice as many wins….
November 12th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
One year? after that steady decline because players gave up . Even publicly talked crap about him
November 12th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
More excuses. Be patient, we are on the verge, the ball is slippery when wet, the lights were in my eyes, we lost focus,it takes time, the list goes on and on. Brooks I love you man, but we the fans have had enough of the excuses.
What are you going to say at the end of the year when we won lets sat 4 games. Hey, we won twice as many as last year. No man. Not good enough.
November 12th, 2015 at 2:47 pm
So we should be patient with a lesser coach because he’s a nice guy? So your ok with mediocrity as long as he doesnt hurt anyones feelings. Got it.
November 12th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Coach Talk
DIdn’t he say something in his intro press conference that TB fans weren’t going to be given anything about patience, that they deserved a winner now?
November 12th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
America’s patient fans!
November 12th, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Does any franchise make more excuses than this one? It pretty much never ends since Gruden got fired. Glazers are saved from being the worst owners in the league by Snyder and Jones.
November 12th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
I say sit tight on lovie til the end of the year. Bucs fan you already stated you don’t like lovie. Wake up – he’s here til the end of the year so quit complaining. If lovie gets us to 6 wins you gotta bring him back. That’s a big improvement. Anything less we’ll see? So chill for now. The complaining is getting tired and dogmatic. Remember good coaches are a rare commodity. There are more duds than studs. So dumping lovie doesn’t necessarily solve problem.
November 12th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
I don’t listen to cheerleader Brooks anyway. His opinion will always be have patience no matter the level of inept competition.
November 12th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
When the Bucs ask if I’m renewing my tickets I’ll tell them to be patient
1st year never been head coaches like Todd Bowles have already reached Loser Lovie’s 24 game total for wins.
Lovie year 1 excuses- no OC, free agents underperforming, new complex defensive scheme and lack of talent from prior regime
Loser Lovie is a joke
November 12th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
You people who bring up a lumpy’s record by going back to last year are ridiculous. Why can’t you understand they needed to wipe half the roster out and rebuild, which is exactly what they did. Last year was simply to see who can stay and play. It’s called rebuilding. The reality is a few players at DB and DE and they are a playoff team next year and for years to come.
I am absolutely fine with a 3 year plan.
You people who want a new system and coaches every 2 years… Just don’t get it.
Take a look at any successful franchise and see what stability does.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
@ Dave, agree!! I’m not sold on lovie either and have criticized him. But I do think all this firing and hate talk is a little premature. Firing a coach is a big deal no simple thing.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
@dave- when Lovie first got hired he said the fans shouldn’t be patient and the team wasn’t rebuilding. He constantly reminded everyone they were 4-12 before he got here.
Once he got hired all we heard was that his scheme is Taylor made for gmc and David. His scheme makes both look average.
I wouldn’t be as hard on Lovie if he didn’t have roster control as well. I’m a fan of stability as well, but Lovie hasn’t shown he is on the right track after 2 years you are just wasting gmc and David’s prime.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Dave Says: “Why can’t you understand they needed to wipe half the roster out and rebuild, which is exactly what they did”.
Yes, we got rid of players like Penn, Zuttah, Claiborne, Foster, Revis, (Who went on to START for other teams). Yes, players we needed to get rid of.
And we wonder why some people have no patience…..
November 12th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Not trying to hate on Dave. I think Lovie came in with a vision of what he wanted to do but cut some players that should have stayed and could have helped this team.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
I’m basically with Dave and Brent. I expected at minimum six wins this year even with a rookie QB. He’s on track for that and considering how much the rookies have improved he may be slightly ahead of schedule.
We’re breaking in a rookie QB and a rookie MLB…arguable the two most important positions on the team and the guys who are calling signals on both sides of the ball. Some patience is simply mandatory due to the situation.
But I get the tmax’s and realist’s of the world. They choose to be frustrated and who can blame them.
I can deal with the Lovie hate and understand tmax, realist and all the others and respect their opinion.
But puhleeze…leave Schiano out of it. He SUCKED! There was not even a glimmer of hope and no light at the end of the tunnel and he had lost his team.
He was a mediocre college coach who made his bones upsetting madman Jim Leavitt’s good teams and making USF his beotch. That’s about it!!!
If Schiano was that talented surely some NFL team would have come calling by now. Regardless of whether Lovie truly is bad or not the league did not think he was as bad as Schiano since he had several offers after getting the boot in Chicago.
The only offer I recall hearing Schiano’s name being mentioned is the UM job.
I think either Schiano or Leavitt could perhaps be a good fit for the canes. Schiano doesn’t belong in the NFL.
You can’t take won loss records over two years, when the four years are all forgettable. I tend to dislike arguments over who sucked most anyway. I’d rather argue which coach is the best. Neither Lovie or Schiano have given us that chance because they’ve put up such horrible numbers as Buc coaches.
November 12th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
@St Pete-What offers did Lovie have? He was out a whole season and didn’t get a interview that off season, that I am aware of.
He was the only interview the Glazer boys bothered with. I’m as patient as you will find, but if he goes 3-13 or 4-12 he’s gotta go. That’s not progress especially when you are a defensive coach and you have the defense playing worse than to end the prior year.
When you look at the big picture. Scheme, player evaluation, personnel choices, in game management and record, there is not much to support this coach
November 12th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
“As a fan base I would say this to our fan base: You’re gonna be patient. You’re either going to be patient or frustrated. One of the two,” Brooks said. “I would say choose [patience.]”
It all comes down to this…
Do you trust the opinion of a person who has played in the NFL at the HIGHEST LEVEL? Or do you trust the opinion of an IDIOT who accuses Brooks of being dishonest just because Mr. Brooks isn’t saying what the IDIOT WANTS HIM TO SAY!?
I’m going to side with Mr. Brooks on this one!(should be an easy decision for most) Brooks has been there and done that and has more EXPERIENCE than ANYONE posting on this blog! What have all you “non-sensical radicals” done?? That’s easy…. YOU HAVEN’T DONE SH!T!!!
THANK YOU!
November 12th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
I love Godfather Brooks but it’s getting harder to ask long suffering Bucs fan for continued patience. L&L have filled the roster with worse players than when they inherited and have thrown tons of Glazer $$$ away. Not to mention got rid of Revis only to have the circus at defense we have now. Patience would be bearable if fans saw some type of improvement but the defense is a joke and the supposed stars GMC and LVD are regressing. Blow it up again.
November 12th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
Onelovie- Brooks is a legend but he is a little bias when it comes down to making logic based analysis when it comes to his former position coach
November 12th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
I am not a Lovie Fan. Simple.
November 12th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
Tampa Fony- I agree, Brooks is a legend! So please don’t accuse him of being biased just because he doesn’t voice the same COCKamamie opinions that you do….
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
November 12th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Onelovie- I’m not the only one who thinks this way. With such poor results and a long list of bad choices and Brooks hesitant to be critical of his former position coach it’s only logical to see he has a very heavy bias
November 12th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
The players loved Raheem too.. You know why because he would take them Bowling and on a nice vacation to England.
Schiano had all the crap with PILLHEAD nd MRSA…But that’s nothing
Lovies biggest problem has been players HE PICKED PLAY LIKE CRAP. And get Cut..
Lovies problems are his.. You think players love Belicheck… He
November 12th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Heck no
November 12th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Do no wrong Lovie. Teflon Lovie. This coach is above criticism. Even he thinks the Bucs will lose Sunday. Excuses excuses. Should have went new young hire, not accepted bottom of the barrel Lovie. Lovie is creepy.
November 12th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
@TampaTony
First of all I completely agree with…but if he goes 3-13 or 4-12 he’s gotta go.
I’ve said I feel the team has enough talent to win 8..I hoped for 10…and said I would accept six as the minimum number of wins to keep him. So I think we agree on that.
As for… What offers did Lovie have?
Actually pinpointing specific offers would be hard. But the prevailing sentiment two years ago was that Lovie was a good fit for several teams not just the Bucs.
This link has some interesting reading on what was happening at the time. Now I shall quickly concede to you and Tmax and Realist that this was written before the 2-14 last year and the 3-5 this year. Simply saying when we hired him he was considered a good choice. I respect those who think it was a mistake but I also respect those who think we change coaches too often and wish to give him more time. I give him the rest of the year since he’s halfway to my six win minimum and the team’s kids seem to be improving.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/25/land-rush-could-be-coming-for-lovie-smith/
Smith, who coached linebackers in Tampa under Tony Dungy before becoming the defensive coordinator in St. Louis, would become an obvious choice to stabilize a currently rudderless Buccaneers franchise. But Smith also could draw significant interest from teams like the Vikings (if they make a change), the Lions (if they make a change), and the Texans (if they make a change).
While the official process won’t begin until January, it would be foolish to assume that teams will wait that long. And because Smith is a minority candidate, the Bucs technically could hire him as the interim coach for the balance of the season — and then instantly make him the permanent coach in January without conducting any further interviews.
It would be an unconventional move, to be sure. But that may be the only way for the Buccaneers to beat the other inevitable suitors for Smith’s services to the punch.
November 13th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
St Pete- I’m onboard for letting loser Lovie finish the year. I don’t think firing him now will help. He has winnable games in Dallas, Indy, Chicago, New Orleans and maybe Philly. Win 3 and I’m all in for letting him come back. 3 or 4 wins he’s gotta go.
Especially with his hand picked defense playing awful