Saints Are Two Touchdowns Better?
September 18th, 2015
Joe can’t find any objective observer picking the Buccaneers to win Sunday at the SuperDome.
The typical takes is, ‘Marcus Mariota carved up the Bucs’ defense win no experience. What will Drew Brees do?’
Three intelligent NFL types feel the same way. They’re hammering the Bucs’ inept defense. Joe’s talking about the CBS crew of former NFL quarterback Brady Quinn, who was a color analyst on Bucs games last year, prickly Pete Prisco and Pat Kirwan, the former Bucs scout, and Jets personnel man and linebackers coach.
In the CBS video, the three join together in breaking down the Bucs-Saints game. Each has the Bucs losing by 13 or 14 points.
At one point in the video, Quinn interrupts Prisco and barks that Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, has no help.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Nobody really knows which Bucs team will show up Sunday.
Dallas made a good point that last year in game 5 we were coming off MG8’s big upset of LeBeau and Pittsburgh IN Pittsburgh. MG8 nearly duplicated that feat in N.O. The bigger story however may be the Bucs D which had been gutter stomped just two weeks earlier in Atlanta.
The D showed up last year in N.O. picking off three Brees passes…Lansannah, Banks and Verner are still on the team. LVD Was a beast with 14 tackles 10 of them solo. ALL of these guys are still on the team…it’s still the same sorry coach who btw managed to lose that game in OT.
I will not be surprised if the Bucs are competitive or if they just get crushed. it could easily go either way. I’m having trouble seeing a win simply because this team doesn’t seem to know how to win. They’re not tough mentally.
and so it’s N.O. 21 Bucs 17..or…N.O. 38 Bucs 14.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
As a gambler, I can tell you +10.5 is too many points for a Saints team to be giving up. We know we will lose, but we don’t know who the Saints really are.
Take the Bucs and the points to make $ this weekend, remember the best bets are the ones that make you a little sick to your stomach.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:28 pm
I think either the game is really close or we are blown out. I like our chances with Winston in a close 4th quarter game more than with Winston down 21-0 halfway through the 1st quarter lol
September 18th, 2015 at 1:28 pm
21-3 Saints.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
my wife plays better defense than these dudes, if you know what I mean.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:34 pm
The Bucs have won 6 games out of the past 32 and just got gangraped by a 2-12 team with a rookie QB. How could anyone actually pick this team to win?
September 18th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
This team needs to be blown up from top to bottom. Trade GMC and David for high draft picks and try and develop Winston into something resembling an NFL quarterback.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
52 Saints Buc’s 10 And the Buc’s don’t get on the plane home …….
September 18th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
We just got toyed with by a 2-12 team with a rookie QB, I’m shocked no one is picking the Bucs on the road against an elite QB! I’m simple flabbergasted!
September 18th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Saints 54-3 by the end of the 3rd quarter so the Saints rest the first team and play w the 2nd team in the last quarter but still score 14 more to win 68-10
September 18th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
I think this Sucs’ team is already broken mentally. Defensive player’s only meeting after week one? Really?
Here’s my prediction that 25+ years of experience/torture lead me to believe:
1.) The Saints jump on these pu**ies quick with some kind of impact play and the crowd will be pumped up.
2.) Guys will panic, start blaming each other and throwing their hands in the air.
3.) Payton and Ryan will be laughing and embracing like best buddies on the Saints’ sideline.
4.) Drew Brees will sit by the 4th quarter and the announcers will laud him and say he hasn’t lost a step, and the Saints are back.
5.) The Sucs’ season will be effectively done.
6.) Lovie will say that the season isn’t lost in two games, and that they’ll “fix it”, etc…
7.) T-Kras will blow a gasket on the Post-Game call in show!
**Just a hunch**
Could get very, very ugly.
#15weekstilltheoffseason
#cantwait
Go Sucs!
September 18th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
@Clint
That’s why I gotta take that Plus money for the 1st half +6
And for the game +9.5
The 1st 4weeks of the season is heaven for a seasoned gambler.
Watch money keep moving that line down too
September 18th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
Bucs suck!!!! Jameis will be working for Lovie at Burger King in 3 years
September 18th, 2015 at 1:41 pm
FUK the points. As of today the Saints are a full coaching staff better than the YUCS! And don’t get me started on the FUKN defense.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:41 pm
I’ll have one hand on the bottle, and one on the remote for this one. Saints could easily put up 50+ if this defense is as confused as last Sunday
September 18th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Take the points….
September 18th, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Perfect storm for the so called “LOCK PICK”.
BLOWN OUT PREVIOUS GAME
WEEK OF BAD PRESS
ON THE AGAINST DIVISON RIVAL – w/ a history of whooping that arse
Thats why I’m taking the plus money.
September 18th, 2015 at 1:52 pm
*ON THE ROAD AGAINST DIVISON RIVAL – w/ a history of whooping that arse
September 18th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
31-14 Saints sounds about right. Brandin Cooks should be an auto roll this week in fantasy, I’m guessing he chews up that soft middle.
September 18th, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Saints 55 Bucs 17. We get a FG in the first half and 2 TD’s in the 4th QTR against the Saints back ups.
September 18th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
I took the money line and the bucs on wednesday when very “expert” said the bucs suck, I am not a lovie supporter any way shape or form, nut he is a head coach of a professional team with professional players…i just have a feeling the bucs win,,,, and a 4-1 money line is unheard of in the pros……
September 18th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
@Dusthty Rhothdes
Good move bruh
September 18th, 2015 at 2:26 pm
@Dusty
Again my dad was a bookie and your logic is spot on. My problem is I have no cojones. LOL And I believe Chris Thomas when he says NFL means No Freaking Logic. Chris like Big Dog definitely enjoyed the action and he played the ponies so hard he ended up owning some.
Sunday’s game was atrocious but I think it was more indicative of our mental state than lack of talent. The let down after the first penalty…bit on a play fake for a 52 yard bomb…JW comes right back just minutes later and throws a pick six and that was pretty much the ball game.
The longer we hang in this game the more dangerous we become. If we avoid another slow start…are you listening JW…and hang in there..we might surprise some people. N.O. is not all that great this year and they will have the enormous mental challenge of taking the Bucs seriously after watching the video of our Sunday shellacking.
September 18th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
These comment scores with the Bucs losing by 20, 30, 40 and more points are ridiculous.
September 18th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
LUV that Green Bay vs Seattle too (-3)
Green Bay Finally gets Seattle at home.
+ Plus Seattle plays like crap on the road
LUV IT
September 18th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
I suspect that one more embarrassing loss will prove to ownership the Lovie has either lost it or never had it.
Amazing the twits around here who hated Schiano. He was really the perfect disciplinarian to build this team. It was almost like there was a conspiracy against the Bucs becoming contenders again. Amazing how many morons attacked Schiano for silly stuff (kneel down) and things he had no control over (MRSA). It’s also amazing how many imbeciles are led around by the media. The media gives them their opinion.
Lol @ how Gruden, Schiano and Rock Star are all successful in the media now. I think they all might be still cashing team Soccer-Brat paychecks too.
**** this team. **** this town of idiots.
I really think that’s the Glazer plan: Alienate the fanbase and move.
September 18th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
The Bucs will win by 10. Write it down, print this page and save it. BUCS WIN!
September 18th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
What you really need to sit back and laugh at is joe. His big thing was if they started Glennon then Lovies job was on the line. OOPS.
September 18th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Amazing how many morons attacked Schiano for silly stuff (kneel down) and things he had no control over (MRSA). It’s also amazing how many imbeciles are led around by the media. The media gives them their opinion.
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Agreed. It’s like they dont have a brain or eyes of their own. And let’s not forget the whole Freeman thing that they still swear was all Schiano’s fault even though it’s crystal clear by now to anyone with an open mind who was really responcible for that.
September 18th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
I spoke with a prominent local attorney who told me that Freeman had been pulled over and had brushes with law enforcement and they let him go because he was the Bucs QB….and yes, the issue at hand was cocaine and/or pills.
How do you think that went over with Greg?
Lol…Greg did us favor by exposing Freeman before he had a chance to really **** the team hard. How did we repay Mr Schiano? …with childish billboards.
I hate everyone and everything right now.
September 18th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Close game until the Saints make game adjustment in the 1st qtr.
Saints 97 **
Bucs 0
** NFL record for 1st half
** Bucs set NFL record w/ 8 Pick 6s but all had receiver running the a bad route.
** It would be the first time ever the home crowd chants, “We want Lovie! Every week!!!” The chants were so loud it caused roof damage.
September 18th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
Quite frankly, I’m a little surprised that the spread isn’t higher. Like it or not, perception is now reality, and the “reality” is that the Bucs have only won twice in the last 17 contests with Lovie at the helm.
Only playing competitive ball and winning will change that “reality”!
September 18th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
Better coaches, better qb and home field advantage wins it big for the saints
September 18th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
42-10 saints, with the touchdown coming in garbage time.
September 18th, 2015 at 4:45 pm
I’m having trouble finding a scenario where the Saints DON’T score 40.
September 18th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
Saints 35-Bucs 14
September 18th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
My prediction is Bucs win 27-24.
Well maybe its more of a hope….
September 18th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
Jamis will throw 4 picks on sunday and Marcus will roll
September 18th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
If Jameis continues to try a five step drop with the O-line we have, he’ll be pressured and throw pick after pick and we’ll see Glennon before halftime. The Saints defense is not that good; how about screen plays and slants over the middle, with Dougie’s runs sprinkled in?
September 18th, 2015 at 9:33 pm
Until Lovie’s Cover 2 contains anything it is hard to imagine that Winston with is below average OL keeping up with Brees and the Saints. I am starting Colston in 2 of my fantasy leagues as he will be like “Harry Douglas” vs the Bucs and probably will get a score and close to 100 yards receiving; he will then return to the bench or the waiver wire until the Bucs play the Saints again; even a diehard Buc fan like myself can see the writing on the wall with Lovie….. Saints 42 Bucs 24 with Winston padding his stats after the Saints go to the locker room up 28-10….. Whether Mike Evans plays or not probably will have no bearing on the score; only on how the Bucs yards are divied up between V-Jack, Evans and ASJ…..
BTW Seminole Bill makes a good point; how about having Winston throw some quick passes put of a 3 step drop? Quick releases seem to work well against Lovie’s D and if I recall the Saints D is as bad as Tampa’s unfortunately Tampa’s O is not in the same league as Brees & Company… Hell, try some screens to Sims; isn’t that why Lovie drafted him???? Tough Being a Buc Fan as long as Lovie is scuttling the Pirate Ship!
September 18th, 2015 at 10:05 pm
If we get blown out again then that means the players are revolting.
September 18th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
DB55 Says:
September 18th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
my wife plays better defense than these dudes, if you know what I mean.
LMAO. I do know what you mean and I’m in full agreement.
September 18th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Jeff: not so fast on Marcus as the Browns actually have some semblance of a defense and probably will throw some wrinkles at him and make him look like a rookie. As the Browns are an offensively challenged team though (probably as bad as the Bucs and Raiders) the Titans could win though; perhaps one of those 13-10 slugfests if Mariota does not give the Brownies any points or short fields via the turnover….. Wish I could predict a 13-10 game for Tampa but with that defense we can only hope that a game could be 13-10 sometime in the first half before the other team pulls away…..
September 18th, 2015 at 11:18 pm
To me what really makes this so bad. Everyone keeps saying Pre Season means nothing. But just before this happens, McClown comes in our house and chain whips Lovies defense. So he picks his beloved starters. They take the field and a rookie comes in to start the regular season and does the same thing in just about the same amount of time! To me that is 4 azz whippings. This was like a Pre Season game for Tenn. That is the sad part. For us to watch, is just become normal. And people want to know why we as fan are enraged with anger?
September 19th, 2015 at 1:53 am
I think were in for a close matchup. the head coach for the saints don’t even believe in there receivers, expect spiller to be running most the game and maybe Drew Brees will make a couple plays. But if Winston can get the ball down the field and play consistent the bucs will win all day. The bucs just need that momentum. If you guys are talking bad about the bucs last game you need to look at it closer because a lot of those penalties were bad calls and changed that game drastically
September 19th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
How soon everyone forgets the Bucs had an 11 point lead in the fourth last year in the first game vs the Saints and led 20-3 in the second game before giving it away. Last week the Bucs were so “shell shocked” after Mariotas TD pass and Winstons pick six and then the bad penalty call that the team went into hibernation and never woke up. We all know the Saints game plan will be short routes in the middle and to the right with quick screens to the RB. If Lovie can not game plan for that he should be fired. The Bucs rebound and beat the Saints 41-34. If the Bucs get blown out again like last week and Winston and the defense fail the calls for a new HC will be everywhere.
September 19th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
Inevitably kid fameis will face a team that doesn’t have a strong defense (most likely teams from the NFC South). It doesn’t mean he WILL beat them – it means he has a better chance against them.
He will continue to struggle against tough defensive teams, especially those running a 3-4. However, ANY defense that can exploit the center and left side of the Buccaneer offensive line and disrupt our QB’s drop or timing (or worse, his life), will result in losses.
Like Chucky said, it ain’t exactly ticket surgery…