Greg Schiano Lives
September 10th, 2015
Former Bucs commander Greg Schiano may be gone, but his philosophy is very much still with the Bucs defense.
When former Bucs commander Greg Schiano first came to town, it didn’t take long for him to alienate a lot of Bucs fans when he bristled at the cliché, “Make a play.”
While Schiano didn’t explain himself very well, Joe understood: Such an effort usually means deviating from your responsibilities, freelancing, and when that happens, the whole cookie can crumble.
“Making a play is sort of the opposite of Bill Belicheat’s saying, “Do your job.”
Fans didn’t take it that way and Schiano’s flawed message was added to a growing list of Bucs fans’ irritants about Schiano.
Well, it seems Lovie Smith agrees with Schiano. Today, when Gerald McCoy took the podium for his weekly presser, GMC described Lovie’s defense. And if one didn’t know any better, it sounded as if the words came out of Schiano’s mouth.
“Last year, at the beginning, we were trying to figure out what that was,” GMC said of Lovie’s defense. “A lot of guys [were] out of place. A lot of guys [were] trying to make plays instead of doing your job.”
Somewhere in south Tampa wearing his Mike Glennon jersey, Schiano is smiling with his toes propped up on a desk.
Yes, Schiano may be gone; One Buc Palace may be deloused for the MRSA; but Schiano’s legacy remains.
Has Joe mentioned yet that Lovie has to rack up nine wins this year to match Schiano’s record with the Bucs?
September 10th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
Has Joe mentioned yet that Lovie has to rack up nine wins this year to match Schiano’s record with the Bucs?
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Godspeed mr smith. Don’t embarrass us again please. Lord forbid if Tenn scores 40 points on us at home. Lovie might as well pack his bags.
September 10th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
This article makes absolutely no sense!
September 10th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Just herd if u live in Orlando area the bucs game will not be televised
September 10th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
Without offering a detailed, long-winded answer, the same station also broadcasts Jags home games in Oralndo. Pretty sure that is the reason (NFL rules).
September 10th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Howard always thought Schiano got a raw deal and we’d be better off to keep him. Good bless those inbred mental-media-midgets at the bone.
How do you like Schiano now, girls?
September 10th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
Idk I live in kissimmee been watching the bucs since I was born and the past 2 or 3 seasons they do it only when gamee on cbs dolphins play at 1 and then ravens vs Broncos no jags though
September 10th, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Schiano wasn’t getting turnovers. Schiano didn’t build an offense. I liked him, but he also alienated a lot of refs, media and coaches.
September 10th, 2015 at 3:48 pm
There doesn’t really seem to be a point to this article – other than to bring up Schiano’s name and drudge up bad memories and (deserved) negative comments. You are reaching here Joe.
September 10th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
I’d take Schiano’s coaching any day over Incompent Lovie but hey at least he’s nice?
September 10th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Love is twice the coach schiano proved to be.
He knows defense and is organized and trusts his OC to take those reigns.
Schiano was a college coach too busy running wind sprints
September 10th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Schiano style was abrasive to some, I’m still scratching my head over the backlash he received from media and fans in this area. All because he rushed the kneel down, kill the clock play. Total BS
September 10th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
I will say this, the team needed his discipline but if you are disciplined in doing the wrong things it is irrelevant.
He had no offense or defensive plan suited for the NFL.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
“Schiano wasn’t getting turnovers.”
That’s not true. I thought the Bucs were ranked right at the top of the league in turnovers for in 2013.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Dave…we’ll see if Lovie can match Schiano’s win total as coach of the Bucs. Schiano won 11 games in 2 seasons. So far Lovie has 2 wins in 1 season as the coach of the Bucs. 9 more wins to go Lovie. Can you do it? I doubt it.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
I don’t care if the win total matches. I expect 7-9 wins.
lovie cleaned house and is completely rebuilding with a rookie QB
Give him a couple more years after this year for the sake of stability with Winston.
Grudges was plugging along at .500 by plugging holes. Not good enough. Think long term. They are building long term.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Dave …what if he wins 4 games this season? Still stick with him?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
The record had nothing to do with Schiano getting fired. He LOST his locker room!!! He lost his fan base. He lost the league with that amateurish move trying to bust up a simple kneel down at the end of the game.
Now where is Schiano working? Wait you mean a coach with all that talent is still on the beach. I’m sure he doesn’t need the money but has he retired.
I always felt he would end up back in college at a better job than Rutgers. But MOST jobs are better than Rutgers and plenty have opened up but I haven’t seen Schiano’s name connected with any. Have you guys heard of any Schiano interviews? Perhaps a DC for an NFL team?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
I just looked up on the Guide and the Bucs game is not on tv in the Orlando market with Bright House. That sucks
September 10th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
If anyone in here thinks that last seasons team looked better than Schiano’s teams…then I’ll call you a moron right NOW!
So raise your hands morons. Put em up. Who thinks last years team looked better than Greg Schiano’s team?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
I don’t know the exact stats for everything from 2013 to 2014, but I do know that we went from 4-12 to 2-14.
Can someone like LUVMYBUCS or tickrdr put together a list of stats from 2013 to 2014 to find out just how much the team dropped off from Schiano to Lovie. You know stats like points against and points for. What rank they were defensively from 2013 to 2014.
I could look them all up, but I’m too lazy. Besides some of you guys live for this type of shyte.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Hey I live in jax I think I’m
Getting the game here
September 10th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
I’m sorry but I want a coach that ruffles feathers and is a hard ass. I would take Greg over Lovie all day. We wouldn’t have have give 2-14 with Greg last year.
He was building a hard nosed team
September 10th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
Too hard-nosed for the politically-correct vag’s running rampant in the media I think.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
@Dave- keeping a coach or staff for continuity is a good idea when you see progress and growth. But if the team is worse than last year and not getting better you gotta fire him. There is a thing such as bad continuity. Anything under 5 wins I say Lovie is gone.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
Destin
Too hard for some people. he and Bill Obrien are cut from the same cloth.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:16 pm
Oh what short memories Bucs fans have. Or maybe it’s selective memories.
Schiano did quite well his first year (2012) for several reasons. Among them: Freeman had a decent year (over 4,000 yds passing) as did a rookie named Martin (1,454 yds rushing plus 472 receiving), and a couple of veterans named Jackson (1,384 yds receiving) and Williams (996 yds receiving). Defense did well too, thanks to a rookie named, oh ya, David plus a healthy McCoy and a couple of guys named Michael Bennett and Aqib Talib, among others.
Next year (2013) Greg Schiano wasn’t quite so fortunate. Freeman went kaboom, Martin was hurt and fizzled, Mike Williams fizzled, and those two guys named Bennett and Talib … poof, traded or contracts not renewed. As far as drafting well is concerned … not so much.
The team that Love & Licht inherited wasn’t a great team, but it did have some decent starting talent, just not enough of it. No depth to speak of. It’s going to take time to build it into a competitive team. Comparing present coaches to past coaches, in the big picture, if kind of irrelevant.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a Lovie hater. I pray we catch a few breaks this season and Lovie looks like a world-beater again. Lovies plan actually looks a lot more professional than Schianos did, it’s just the results that sucked last year. Players definitely will play for Lovie. Schiano was getting where no good FA player would come near him. It’s just the long-term mismanagement that kills me. A revolving door at the top position of a company is never a good commentary .
In further defense of Lovie:
People are forgetting the Tedford debacle. I’ll ask this: Who is the most important person on a team after the HC? …yeah…it’s the OC. (or in some cases the DC, but in Lovies case definietly the OC. Lovie requires a good OC).
September 10th, 2015 at 6:20 pm
DefenseRules…the team Schiano inherited from Raheem the dream was garbage too. Yet he managed to get 7 wins in his first season in the NFL. Not his 15th like Lovie Smith. I say Schiano inherited a far worse team than Lovie inherited.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Buc 1987 we finally agree. The scouting and personel dept is the problem at one buc. Greg’s teams played hard man.
Lovie practices are sooooooo easy and the product shows
September 10th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
Id take Schaino over Lovie any day. Say what u want but his defense was a lot better than the garage Lovie throws out there. We might have won our division and made the playoffs last year under Schiano and everyone would be whistling a different tune right now.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:58 pm
Everyone cried about the stunts he ran on the D-Line and that it was “hurting” us instead of helping us. Yea cuz Lovies philosophy on getting pressure has worked so much better hahaha. Idiots.
September 10th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
@DefenseRules
Excellent points!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 7:35 pm
I would just like the Bucs to win a home game. My sons have not seen a Bucs win at Ray Jay for quite awhile. Let’s forget about winning 5-7 games.
The big question is when Lovie goes 3-13 this season will the Glazers have the guts to show him the door. Because Lovie will be in the same category as Lehman Bennett and Richard Williamson.
Sad to say Ray Perkins would have done better.
When your team is signing 5-8 players after the cut down to 53, you know you are in trouble.
Hopefully Dirk will stay on as head coach next season
September 10th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
@Buc 1987:
Defensive ranks:
Passing: 2013 — 17th 2014 — 28th
Rushing: 2013 — 18th 2014 — 19th
Scoring: 2013 — 21st 2014 — 25th
Sacks: 2013 — 23rd 2014 — 21st
I did think that it was ridiculous to bum rush the “victory formation”, but I agree that the Bucs were better in 2013 under Schiano than in 2014 under Lovie. I have posted many times asking “which individual players played better in 2013 than in 2014, let alone which units as a collective whole”? Lovie jettisoned players before any competition in training camp, and awarded starting jobs like Santa Claus. Unfortunately, to me, this year’s team is remarkably reminiscent to last year’s team. We’ll see how it works out.
I’ll look for the offensive rankings later, but TNF is about to start.
tickrdr
September 10th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
Jags are home at 1pm and the Orlando TV station only has to show Jags road games. Must be because of Blake Bortles being from UCF.
September 10th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
Toes on the line bitches! I miss Schiano on the Buc’s sidelines yelling at people…there Was some fire
September 10th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
Greg Schiano had a pretty good defensive team. The defense problem had been solved. Was getting better and was going to become one of the best in the NFL. It was the offense that doomed Schiano. Mike Sullivan and the offense cost Schiano his job. He just needed a new and better OC to fix the offense. Schiano didn’t make the change mid season unfortunately. Too loyal to his coordinators.
September 11th, 2015 at 1:53 am
WOW
Pretty amazing how many suddenly reminiscing about Schiamo.
I gave him a chance. He blew it. He could not coach. He had no organization. He was a hard ass college coach trying to be hard ass to a bunch of pros. It was never going to work and free agents were going to stop coming here.
Lovie and Licht came in And got rid of dead weight and massive salaries to start fresh. That was year one last year. Year two hadn’t even started and some of you want him fired.
Get a grip people
Lovie was 81-63 with the Bears with SB appearance with Rex Grossman at QB?!?!!!
Give it time and trust the man.
September 11th, 2015 at 3:50 am
Lovie has shown Nothing,.. lets not forget that the Schiano led BUCS (with a rookie QB by the way that joe didn’t ask for time to develop) won 4 of their last 8 games including the best effort of ANY team that played the Seahawks in their stadium was one of those losses! Idiots! We got rid of a Great up and coming coach for a useless has-been!
September 11th, 2015 at 7:44 am
Congratulations JOE! This is your most incomprehensible effort yet! No small feat.