Winning Record “Overachieving”

July 24th, 2015
Former Bucs TE and current member of the Bucaneers Radio Network, Anthony Becht, outlines the 2015 season.

Former Bucs TE and current member of the Buccaneers Radio Network, Anthony Becht, outlines the 2015 season.

Yes, the 2015 football season gets underway for many football-starved fans when the Bucs begin training camp a week from Saturday.

Get ready for the sauna.

Yesterday, former Bucs tight end Anthony Becht, a current member of the Buccaneers Radio Network, joined Tom Pelissero and Kirk Morrison, co-hosting “Movin’ the Chains,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

Becht, unless something strange happens, can’t see the Bucs making a playoff run this season.

“For me, what would be an extremely – a wow season – what for me would be a wow season would be 8-8,” Becht said. “That, to me, would open my eyes and I’d say they did an outstanding job. Realistically when you look at it, what they did last year, the pieces that are there, growing, with a new quarterback coming in, even though he is the top pick of the draft, if you can get six wins, for me, I would say that is a successful season. Anything over eight would be overachieving excellence.”

Joe has to agree wholeheartedly. Joe doesn’t mean to p!ss in fans’ cereal bowls, but as Bill Parcells famously said, you are what your record says you are. The Bucs, at 2-14, were just dreadful.

It is simply too much to expect an offense starting three rookies to win a lot of games. Especially with one rookie being “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, and two will be expected to protect Jameis.

This team has so many, many holes to fill, which is why they lost 14 games last year. Winning six games would triple the number of win. Anytime you triple the previous season’s win total, that’s doing damned good.

If the rookies have a decent showing this season, then Joe would then expect a run at a postseason berth. Next year.

30 Responses to “Winning Record “Overachieving””

  1. The Buc Realist Says:

    5-11 and Lovie will become a career .500 coach!!!!

  2. Tampa Tony Says:

    This losing culture and mentality has got to stop. Anything less than 6 wins and Lovie has got to go.

  3. buc4life1979 Says:

    @ Joe
    To be fair, the players can only be as good as their coaching, and the coaching last season from the HC on down resembled a first time high school operation. Seriously, how can ANYONE look back and say “Nah, Lovie knew what he was doing letting Arroyo take the reins as OC, and bullSh!tting everyone the whole time with his “collective effort” BS. WHo seriously wants their starting QB (Named Mccown or otherwise) helping to coach up the offensive coordinator, while also trying to play QB, which just happens to be something he has only done well in 5 games out of his career? If we’re being fair, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say the talent potential on this team if paired with the right coaching, could make the playoffs easy? But after the display of “professional” coaching from last season, tht ends up being ALOT less likely? Again, the team’s depth chart IS NOT lacking the player talent to get into and be compatitive in the playoffs now is it?? Don’t think anyone could honestly argue that, which leaves only…. THE COACHING.

  4. rayjay1122 Says:

    I have gone on record as saying that since we really did not try to win the last regular season game, that 6 games really is not tripling the win total but then I thought about it and remembered that we won a game against the Steelers that we had no business winning, so I guess the 6 win thing is OK. I think 6 wins will be on the low side of my prediction window though just based obviously on nothing more than a feeling. I think with some lucky breaks they can go 8-8 or even 9-7 but with unforeseen injuries and if they kill themselves with stupid ill timed penalties, then it could slip to 4 or 5 wins. I also think having Koetter guiding the offense will be a big difference. I am glad the season is quickly approaching.

  5. Buc-A-New Says:

    Sorry………NOT buying it! We lost 9 games last yr by one score and we tanked At least one game. With improvements in QB, OC, OL, TE, and Defense being in its second yr of Lovies scheme we should win At least 8 games

  6. Buc-A-New Says:

    And Joe…….We were Not a 2 and 14 team when everyone knows we tanked the Saints game. That would make us 3 and 13, therefore we need to triple 3 which I think is 9

  7. JC De La Torre Says:

    I still don’t see why if the Texans, Chiefs and Colts can improve from 2-14 to winning records why the Bucs can’t do it.

    And Lovie has never had back-to-back losing seasons.

    So as far as I’m concerned, it’s not overachieving. Its what should happen.

  8. The Buc Realist Says:

    @JC De La Torre

    You know all three of those teams that went 2-14 fired the Head Coach!!!

    Ownership/management all said that 2-14 was unacceptable, The Bucs on the other hand are telling Lovie it takes time. There is no pressure/real desire to be a great team on the Bucs from the top!!!

  9. WyomingBucsFan Says:

    My question to all the 6-10 crowd is this. If you knew for a fact the bucs were sandbagging or “tanking” for the number one pick would that change your evaluation of the bucs and thus give you a more promising out look for this upcoming season?

  10. Warrior Says:


  11. Capt.Tim Says:

    Spot on Joe.
    6-10, draft a DE and a few others.
    Next year, playoff hunt.
    That works for me

  12. DallasBuc Says:

    Mediocrity is success now? We should be competing every year in every game. Let’s face it, the only reason talking heads and fans are excited to embrace the humiliating mediocrity of 6 wins is because we have a lousy HC that could barely squeeze 2 wins in a single season.
    Screw your 6-win loser fantasies. I expect to compete week in and week out and I expect playoffs at the very least. Anything else is making excuses for poor leadership that needs to find a new occupation. I’m sick of this sht.

  13. Jolly Bucs Fan Says:

    I am with Buc-a-New as well, Joe you keep saying we have sooooo many holes,
    OK well lets actually evaluate that– the only holes I can think of are Oline, DE, RB and Safety?

    O-line – Well we have some depth with Pamphile and Edwards/Marpet, yes it could still use some work but should be a huge step up from last year,

    DE – Jacquies Smith hit 6.5 sacks after coming on late in the season, he has the potential to be a stud and even if not he is an upgrade over last year and should be at least a 6-8 sack guy. George Johnson, I am a little more unsure on this but again an upgrade over last year. Henry Melton (possibly) could also provide some pass rush from the edge on passing downs.

    RB – Oline was garbage last year, but the RB’s didnt help themselves at all, still if the oline improves so does the run game, supposedly Doug Martin is in much better shape so MAYBE he can improve, still dont see a return to rookie form, but any improvement is good and with our rotation, maybe we at least see a decent ground attack

    Safety – Bradley McDougald should hold down one slot and performed pretty well, other than him we do have a hole at the other side but Conte/Swearinger will still be an upgrade over last year

    Thats all I can think of. we have a Franchise QB (hopefully) a excellent WR core, solid TE’s with the potential to be excellent. Not to mention a real OC that should improve the existing holes on offense (Oline, RB) and also improve on our strengths.

    As for Defense, its in the second year of Tampa 2 so we should see marked improvement, DT has increased depth with Melton and we should see GMC improve seeing that he can be spelled here and there. Linebacking core should be improved with Carter in the middle, even with his injury concerns if he goes down and Alexander? replaces him, the athleticism should still be an upgrade over Foster. As for the CBs, Banks is a stud and will continue to improve, Verner should continue to improve as well, and Moore, who is experienced in the tampa 2 nickel position can take over that position here which provides an immeasurable upgrade over LJ.

    Considering this and the fact that we threw so many close games last year I think we should be able to pull out at least 8 wins

  14. INDYbucsfan Says:

    Well I mean we’re really a 3-13 team. Because of the last game we tanked

  15. Buccfan37 Says:

    The sky is the limit, on Pluto.

  16. Fsuking Says:

    Fact: The last 3 teams to win a Superbowl started a rookie on their O-Line in the big game.

  17. Fsuking Says:

    Opinion: Anthony Becht looks like a personal injury attorney with a bad commercial that is always on TV

  18. Pickgrin Says:

    In 2014 – the Bucs were tanking for Jameis. And it wasn’t just the last game. Why is that so hard to understand? Yes – in the NFL, you are what your record says you are – IF you were trying to win and failed. That wasn’t the case in quite a few games at the end of the 2014 season.

    The head coach and GM knew what was at stake (best QB to come out in years) and did what they had to do to get him. Simple as that.

    IMO, the Bucs will win at least 7 or 8 games in 2015 – and with a couple of breaks, could definitely be competing for a playoff spot in December.

    The upgraded combo of Winston’s abilities and Koetter’s play calling alone is going to account for several wins.

  19. duthsty rhothdes Says:

    So being 7-9 is ok?? WTF lovie should be fired, and its friggin funny the 3-13 crowd v 2-14 crowd over a tanked game… expect better!!! only good thing i see are the prognosticators down on jameis cause they dont know jack, they had bucs in playoffs even superbowl last year

  20. Capt.Tim Says:

    So its Superbowl win every year, or the team sucks
    We built our team- won our superbowl- mission accomplished
    Started over again
    The Dom years were a waste
    Lovie is building a competitive team, but it wont happen in two years.

    And it wont win the Superbowl every year

  21. rayjay1122 Says:

    Agreed!! It was like a chess game whereas sometimes you have to sacrifice some in order to position yourself to ultimately win. That was the mindset to get our QB finally solidified for the next decade. One season was a small price to pay considering we had a first year Tampa 2 defense, first year Head Coach and no Offensive Coordinator. This team will compete this year for the NFC South title.

  22. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    I disagree! The coaching staff last year had one goal, draft Winston. Now they can concentrate on winning games!

  23. Bobby Says:

    I have to agree with the 6-10 outlook. We could turn out to be much better but I think 6-10 is a realistic projection. Next year fill in the remaining pieces and go after the division title and the playoffs. Hope they shock me and win 8 or more. I do think they’ll be very competitive in every game. I don’t think anyone will run over us.

  24. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    You are what your record says you are! In 2014 we sucked. 2-14 is a joke!
    Whether it was bad coaching, bad talent, bad luck, stupidity on the field…really a Capt Morgan pose..puke…don’t drop freaking first down passes and then you can work on your poses…perhaps the team has learned to count to 12 this year. but worst of all McClown played far far far worse than and decent rookie QB. He was waaaaay beyond rookie bad. He CHOKED so many times out there that I was crying with him. I felt sorry a grown man had embarrassed himself so completely.

    The 2014 Bucs were 2-14 and sucked for all the reasons above.

    The 2015 Bucs are 0-0. We ARE what are record says we are. Undefeated without a single win. The 2015 team is TOTALLY different than the 2014 team.

    They are NOT the same teams. 10-6 is doable and should be the goal. Those other 2-14 teams won 11 the next year. 10 in our crapola division is not a reach.

    Becht and Joe are simply covering their arses and setting the bar low for L&L.
    Not me. I’m not Dallas or Tickdr but I’ll join them if we don’t at least win 8 I’ll be on the Lovie bashing bandwagon. 10-6 baby! Do not settle for less.

  25. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Good to see the Lovie hate mongers are out in full effect. Nice work guys but your efforts to start some sort crusade to have a headcoach that will be in the saddle a decade are futile at best. And incompetent seems to be the theme of you super knowledgeable NFL experts can anyone of you show a superbowl winning headcoach that did so after taking over a team in his first year on the job? I’m not the sharpest knife in the kitchen so I’ll be awaiting your results. Thank the Gods Lovie Smith is the HC(I’ll leave out a few other letters)of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A position you all will be force to watch him maintain for many many years to come.

  26. DavidbigBucsFan Says:

    It’s funny how how people can’t see Lovie tanked last year. He’s never had a true franchise qb and I’m sure his job security rests on getting one. I refuse to believe the Glazer bois were not in on the ruse that we were trying to win. The Colts sucked like we did for one year then got Lucky and went to the playoffs the following year. You can’t tell me they didn’t tank to get him. We had a oc who couldn’t even coach a pop warner team yet still beat the steelers and beat the breaks off the deadskins(which for once McClown actually looked like an nfl qb) with the worst offense in the league. Down the stretch Dougie was running better and is now fully healthy, Bobby Rainey is still a good back and now we Have Koetter and WE ALL know he will make a huge improvement . The defense will be better. I cant see us going less than 8-8 and at least 3-3 in the division. Now for these clowns who talk about Lovie Smith like he is a sub human idiot I can only say they must simply want a coach who looks like them. OH MY GOSH!!!! I WENT THERE!!! Their vilification of him is so unwarranted. He carries himself respectably and is a deeply religious man so I can see that as the only viable reason. They’ll probably say ” oh I liked Dungy or I have one as a fan”. They’d probably be happier if we had Rex Ryanď

  27. DavidbigBucsFan Says:

    That was ” I have one as a friend”

  28. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    David as black man I’ve been trying to keep from saying that but I appreciate you having a pair big enough to say it for me.

  29. Buc1987 Says:

    Capt.Tim…it wasn’t too long ago that you were on the same page with DallasBuc.

    The sick of this shyte page.

  30. Big Irish Says:

    I’d like an 8-8 season! THAT WOULD HAVE WON OUR DIVISION LAST YEAR!!!