“Pride” Will Play A Major Role?

July 19th, 2015

An ex-Buccaneer weighs in

Joe and Bucs fans can argue all day long about whether Lovie Smith is on a hot seat, whether he must hit a certain number of wins in 2015 to keep his job.

But what is Lovie feeling?

Former Tampa Bay quarterback turned excellent NFL analyst Chris Simms says pride will be a major factor for the Bucs’ upcoming season — in the locker room and in the coaches’ meetings.

“The coaches are the ones that are feeling it worst,” Simms explains in this Bleacher Report video. “The coaches, they feel the fire under their butts. Lovie Smith, he did not exactly make a great first impression by going 2-14 in his first season.”

Simms says players will take the pain of last season, and the memories of coaches riding their asses, into 2015. Pride will be a force in August and September.

“And trust me, that goes on in the NFL. You talk about it, ‘Man, we were embarrassed last year. Let’s get better this year. Let’s show everybody what we got,'” Simms said.

Joe doesn’t think Simms’ take on players is too meaningful here, but the chatter about Lovie and his staff is intriguing. Lovie’s perspective affects on-field decisions.

That’s one reason Joe considers opening day in Tampa, against the woeful Titans and Marcus Mariota, to be a must-win. What a pressure reliever and a confidence boost for everyone connected to the Bucs that would be, including fans.

The alternative would be the Bucs being favored to start 0-3, with road games in New Orleans and Houston following the home-opener. Joe want no part of that.

62 Responses to ““Pride” Will Play A Major Role?”

  1. Buc1987 Says:

    They should be feeling like crrrrrrrap after the season of “we don’t expect our fans to be patient”and rolling out that garbage of a team, from opening day on.

  2. The Buc Realist Says:

    Well, we are going into year 7 and “pride” has not kicked in yet!!!

  3. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    I DO NOT want to lose to Mariota!

  4. Dick2111 Says:

    Not sure I’d define our first game of the season as a ‘must-win’ game Joe. If the Bucs lose, are they going 0-16?

    Obviously there’s a lot at stake in that first game, but if the Bucs put a much-improved product on the field yet lose, the world won’t come to an end. They’ll have something to build on, and hopefully they’ll continue to improve all season long.

    You’ve said many times before that you think they’ll get 6 wins on the season. I agree … I think they’ll be in the 6-8 wins range.

  5. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Realist!!! I’m perplexed you and this 7 year thing. Lovie needed atleast one to get his roster in order and Jamies will be a rookie. This is not a rebuild,this my friend is a takeover.

  6. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    One thing that is hard for we mere mortals to comprehend is the MONEY!!!!

    Cyndi Lauper had a hit back in the 80’s…”Money Changes Everything”.

    Pride is ALL most of these people have on the line.

    Lovie and Frazier are multi millionaires. This is true for virtually all the starters as well with a few guys like LVD still waiting to cash in.

    Now look in the mirror and imagine. Would you approach your job tomorrow the same way if you knew you already had ten million in the bank and a million dollars annually unless you pull a Warren Sapp.

    Pride is ALL that Lovie has on the line. He is absurdly wealthy, he’s getting older and has made his bones having reached the Super Bowl one of only 50 or so coaches to do so.

    PRIDE is what was lacking in too many players last year. They simply cashed their paychecks and laughed all the way to the bank.

  7. SteveK Says:

    I hope Lovie can’t match Greg Schiano’s total of wins in two years. 9 more to go!

  8. The Buc Realist Says:

    Honestly, I don’t think Lovie feels the pressure of being embarrassed all of last year. The Man has built a huge wall of excuses!!! And we will get to hear them all training camp!!!

  9. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Another thing,I just finish watching our final game against the saints on NFL network”rewind”. I think many of you are sleeping on Charles Sims. His feet are fantastic and hands are like glue. I expect big play out my guy in season two.

  10. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Pride… That’s one thing none of us have worry about when it comes to that Jamies kid. He exudes it,inn a few years when he is the undisputed top dog in that locker room everyone that enters it will forced to go about their respective job with the same level of enthusiasm. You won’t loaf being a team mate of Jamies. It just won’t be allowed. And continue moaning about Lovie everyday Realist!!! Jamies will ensure you’ll be moaning over him for many years.

  11. Strider Says:

    No excuses!!!! Game one season opener !!! MUST WIN!! Jameis Winston I believe in him he is a QB that would reach for the first down not just walk out of bounds. -_- as a die hard Buc fan since I was a kid in the 90’s I will be drownin in a pool of liquor. if we lose for a team “on the verge” against (quick name 5 starters on) Tennessee Ima be pissed.

  12. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    7 is supposed to be a lucky number, Realist.

  13. The original "Kevin" Says:


    I AGREE….charles simms footwork in the final game against new orleans looked fantastic. Some of the quickest feet a running back his size can have. Add the hands to catch I think alot of people are just uoset they spent a 3rd round pick on an off the radar back. But if used properly he can be HUUUUIUUGGGGGGGEEE TAAAMMPPPAAAAA HHHHUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    Ive heard that kia motors commercial one too many times the last coue of monthes

  14. Buccfan37 Says:

    I’m looking for improved play and competition across the whole team. Other teams may think beating the Bucs is not too difficult, but this coming year those teams will realize they are in for a tougher battle than they thought.

  15. WS99 Says:


    Keep in mind that it was a highlight reel. 18 carries for 69 yards, he looked okay but I wouldn’t exactly make plans for Hawaii just yet. Him running into T King in the open field had to be the funniest ish I’ve seen in years.

    Meanwhile Martin had 19 carries for 108 yards. Just saying….

  16. Ray Rice Says:

    I don’t know what’s more embarrassing. The 2-14 or the X amount of times Simms had his passes batted at the line of scrimmage. Watt would have had a field day against him. Over/Under -6

  17. Supersam Says:

    I’ve been saying this since April, if the Hawaian Hiesman (Mariota) and the Titans come to Tampa and smack us in the mouth and Winston struggles with the defense laying down again, it should be the beginning of the end for Lovie and Licht. That’s how important that game will be.

  18. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    That is why drafting your team over the years is the best way to establish a winning culture! Free agents, for the most part, are looking for a pay day. A select few of them have pride in their work ethic (VJax comes to mind).
    Figuring out which ones are the good ones requires a crystal ball.

  19. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Our Company just cleaned Tony Dungy’s roof last week.
    My Son asked Tony about the Bucs, and he told my Son that he was absolutely shocked that the Bucs were as bad as we were last year.

  20. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    I feel you 99,just think on third downs we may have something there.

  21. tampa2bucsforever Says:

    The Bucs were as bad as they were last year because Lovie tanked to get the best job security there is in the NFL. A franchise QB. What Lovie learned in Chicago all those years was that to be successful you need three things. Defense with a very good OC and most of all Jameis Winston. Yes, pride has everything to do with wining. This team needs to take all of those 6 points or less losses and convert them to wins. Lovie now has the foundation to make this team great. Yes, the Titan game is huge. Not only for Lovie and the home opener, but for Jameis in revenge for the Rose Bowl.

  22. Buc-A-New Says:

    Man you guys should see the Huckleberries we picked today!!! We stumbled into the best patch since we’ve lived here. Huckleberry Cobbler Here we Come!!! Wife is an Excellent cook. Sauces, spreads, jellies! I’m stoked obviously.

  23. dabucs Says:

    I’m watching the 2000 bucs vs rams Monday Night game o you tube..I was only in the 8th grade then, but damn what I would give to go too a game in that environment now..

  24. Buc-A-New Says:

    @dabucs, I remember like it was yesterday, the 99 NFCG where we lost to the Rams 11 to 6 and the Bert Emanuel rule!. I was in a Hotel room in NYC jumping on the bed and screaming at the top of my lungs at the TV and security being called and I told ’em to FO. I long for those days too because it means that we were relevant.

  25. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo has pride…..but Pablo knows pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Palo has six of them to be truthful….Pablo also has Lust, Greed, Envy, Gluttony and Wrath….Pablo is not a Sloth….I guess Palo isn’t perfect….but Pablo is a very good man and Pablo loves his Bucs and Buc amigos. Pablo appreciates being able to express himself on JBF. Pablo knows it’s a privlege.”

  26. Buc-A-New Says:

    I need Pablo to help me pick Huckleberries. I will pay Pablo $40 a gallon. AND he can carry a .44 !

  27. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo is done picking…..the only things Pablo picks now is the Exacta…..Pablo picks a good seat for OPTD “Other Peoples Table Dances” Pablo picks his kids up from school and Pablo on occaision picks his nose. Pablo appreciates the job offer from Buc-A-New….Pablo is certain that St. Pete Buc Fan, 87, WS99 and Senor Mofo would also turn down the offer….but Pablo isn’t sure of the Realist. Pablo thinks the Realist needs some good hard labor to straighten his negative thoughts out.”

  28. richbucsfan Says:

    Pride is a kid thing… a college thing. These players don’t have to have it… look at “The Ghost” for one example. He got his money and now he’s gone. IMO This is another shallow, weak, non-contending team. Lack of talent and experience will be their downfall once again.

  29. Buc1987 Says:

    Sooo I can see Rich is excited for the upcoming season.

  30. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Now that’s funny

  31. Buc-A-New Says:

    TBBF……..You Rule!

  32. The Buc Realist Says:

    Lol, I just picked another 10 mango’s out of my back yard does that count???

    If the shipping cost did not kill it I would trade for some of that Huckleberry jam, as I just made a batch of Mango, pineapple and habanero pepper jam!!

  33. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Where are you again? I’ve just reached Michigan’s UP for the next few months.
    Retirement is great! I’ve got the NFL ticket on Direct TV so I won’t miss any Bucs games. I’ll be back in time to catch the important games in person.

    Huckleberries! Our’s are also ripe for the picking. Wife and I will get to that this week. We call our Bilberries Huckleberries up here for some reason.

    Today wife and I got to bust our humps…six miles..3 miles down an 1800 foot drop in elevation and then back up again. Took us a little over two hours but we stopped to chat with a mountain biker along the way.

    Life is so good I’m beginning to feel guilty. But the last two years have been such hell I feel we deserve it. Trying to sell the business while hanging on and managing to the end…family health problems…our last two years have felt like the Bucs 2-14 season!!! Hopefully the Bucs will turn things around as well as wife and me after retirement.

  34. Buc-A-New Says:

    I will trade you jar for jar Realist. There is no “cost” between Bucs fans. Though I can only send one jar due to how long it takes to pick em. I will trade you a jar of Huckleberry spread for a jar of Mango jam any day.
    SPBF, I am in West Yellowstone Montana. You remember me best by a name I can no longer use. Huckleberries bloom usually in late July and August here but this yr was an early spring so the berries are early. I never had to go over 100 feet from the road today to pick a gallon

  35. Buc-A-New Says:

    Life is so good I’m beginning to feel guilty.
    No Way man! We are too old to feel guilty about life being good. You should feel blessed!

  36. Buc1987 Says:

    OMG season get here soooon. They’ve been reduced to talking about jams and jelly….

  37. WS99 Says:

    Pablo picks a good seat for OPTD “Other Peoples Table Dances”

    ^^^^^THIS^^^^^ count me in, I’ll be sure to bring an extra $300 JUST IN CASE. Lol 😉 if you know what I mean.

  38. Buc-A-New Says:

    Leave it to DB to be ready for Table dances just when TC is about to startNe. Get your head on str8 man! We need you focused!

  39. Buc-A-New Says:

    *started* I think it is time for a new computer or new fingers. One of the two.

  40. WS99 Says:

    Lmao FO REAL DOUGH!!!!!!!

    1 week left before camp. I think this is worse than waiting for the draft. Did you guys read that ridiculous article that said Mariota will have an easier transition into the NFL than Winston?

  41. Buc-A-New Says:

    Just like my identity.

  42. Buc-A-New Says:

    What do the first three letters of hyphenated name spell?

  43. WS99 Says:

    Ok getting all cryptic on us.

  44. WS99 Says:

    Ballers on HBO. Must see TV.

  45. Buc-A-New Says:

    B-A-N………… mr “Cryptic dude that said I must have a name generator! 🙂 I have been here for over three years and I have already selected the people I want to communicate with. You are one of them bro.

  46. WS99 Says:

    Lmao! Joe made you go thru like 8 names. I just loved your tenacity so a generator would have been a helpful tool to you mr craftsman. Anyway you cool with me Buc but you already know that.

  47. Buc-A-New Says:

    We are all good you Nole loving joker and you know that. The Joes almost have to know who I am but won’t let me have my name back. Oh well. Here is to hoping that we go 10 and 6 and make the playoffs and Joe forgives me and lets me be me.

  48. Buc1987 Says:

    How about orange marmalade? Can we talk about that next? It’s sort of creamsicle in color…

  49. Buc-A-New Says:

    I would thoroughly enjoy some Mango marmalade now that you say it 87. I hope Realist is listening.

  50. Buc-A-New Says:

    I don’t want to wait 7 years for some marmalade.

  51. Buc1987 Says:

    Man when I used to come down to Florida from Mass(my dad lived in Fla) in the summers as a kid during the 70’s. His neighbor had this massive, I mean MASSIVE mango tree. We used to climb up it, it was so massive. I used to go back up north after the summer and tell my friends about mango’s and they never even heard of them. Nowadays there’s mango everything. Mango slurpees, mango bbq sauce, mango flavored candy etc.

  52. Buc-A-New Says:

    Well 87, I grew up in Fla and had Lemon, Orange, Tangerine, Tangelo, Loquat, Kumquat and Sour Orange trees in our yard. I love my citrus! But I now live where you can go pick Huckleberries at will between July and Sept. So I am adapting

  53. Buc1987 Says:

    All I could pick up north in Mass was teaberries (minty flavor), blueberries and black berries. All of them grew wild. We would eat a lot of them just in walking through the woods. Never gathered them for jams and jellies though. I ate a lot of them though, because the woods was my favorite place to go when skipping school.

  54. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    @ B A N LOL

    “No Way man! We are too old to feel guilty about life being good. You should feel blessed!”

    Amen brother. I am very blessed. My best friend up here says life is simply random. A good shrink friend of mine on the political blog says it’s all luck simply embrace it when it’s good.

    I think life is cyclical. I survived an absolutely horrible childhood…drunken wife beating father…all the good stuff…but then I had sooo much fun during my broadcasting career that made up for it. Then I worked 17 years in dentistry to help my wife. Man am I glad to be out of that!!! So now it’s time for a positive cycle.

    And that’s true for the Bucs as well. Things are cyclical. The Bucs are due for some good luck and some good calls. Over the long haul these things seem to balance out. Just one old dude’s observation anyway.

    I like you B A N because you are so positive. Nobody ever extolled the virtues of negative thinking yet most of humanity seems to embrace it. Thankfully not all of us. And sadly I’m not just talking about the Bucs here.

  55. Buc-A-New Says:

    As you said the other night SPBF, “when you receive a compliment you must consider the source”. I totally agree and thank you. I had a very hard childhood with death and my dad leaving when I was 5 etc. I took it wrong and chose not ot grow up until later in life. I didn’t have my son until I was 40. Life is funny how it chooses to challenge us.

  56. Buc1987 Says:

    If you wanna hear god laugh tell him your plans…

  57. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    So glad you’re now in a positive cycle.

    87 I’ve never shared my plans with God because I figured He already knew them. 🙂

  58. Buc1987 Says:

    Meh I stole the line from a country song. Which makes good sense to me every time I heard it. It means to me that life never goes how you plan it. You can plan for something to go a certain way, but more often than not it doesn’t work out the way it was planned.

  59. Buc-A-New Says:

    87 I’ve never shared my plans with God because I figured He already knew them. 🙂
    Truer things can not be said.

  60. Buc-A-New Says:

    Oh SPBF………before I go watch a movie with the mrs. I just wanted to say that I love Gatorsnbucs. Peace out and I can’t wait to be proved right about this season. Go Bucs

  61. WS99 Says:

    The Bucs are due for some good luck


  62. Buc-A-New Says:

    DB just said it All.