Football Trust Is No. 1 Issue For Jameis Winston

July 27th, 2015

KoetterA former league MVP and star quarterback likes what he’s seen, heard — and not heard — from Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, this spring and summer.

Rich Gannon, who was hardly a big Jameis supporter a few months ago, says the off-field focus on Jameis has now shifted to the football field because he’s earned that with his recent attitude and behavior.

Co-hosting on SiriusXM NFL Radio this afternoon, Gannon also talked about how Jameis’ college numbers are too hard to ignore. And no, he wasn’t talking about Jameis’ big interception total last year. Gannon said Winston had the 10th best efficiency rating in college football since 1956.

Gannon said Jameis’ development will hinge on how quickly he’ll earn trust from receivers by not getting them killed with off-the-mark throws, and earning the trust of offensive linemen and his playcaller.

The offensive coordinator take is what interests Joe most, and the evolution of that relationship will be so key. Dirk Koetter won’t be afraid to let Jameis loose (presumably Lovie Smith will steer clear), but he must trust that Jameis can execute.

Coordinators so often talk about putting players in positions to be successful. Well, if Jameis hasn’t earned that trust, Joe has no doubt that Koetter will go into turtle mode until he does.

111 Responses to “Football Trust Is No. 1 Issue For Jameis Winston”

  1. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    Joe, are we going to get some pictures and a post of the hordes of protesters gathered outside One Buc with their torches and pitchforks anytime soon?

    Why are you burying the stories of protests taking place right now? I haven’t seen any, but I was assured that the protests were coming and that they would be massive.

  2. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo doesn’t think protesters will show up for Hamus. Pablo thinks Hamus has acted good since a Buc. Pablo likes Hamus….the best Buc QB since Heff Garcia”

  3. Strider Says:

    Jameis going to be doing the dougie soon enough

  4. Joe Says:

    Cream:

    🙂

  5. Buc-A-New Says:

    Mariota has the Second best efficiency rating. And Tim Tebow the third best since 1956.

  6. Buc-A-New Says:

    LOL as I look at the list I believe Tebow is the only one in the top Ten that was a winning QB in the NFL and he is a mouthpiece now. Guess we know we can’t use efficiency ratings as a metric for success in the NFL
    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/pass-rating-player-career.html

    I think JW will do just fine. I just can’t wait till we have more than speculation to discuss as fans.

  7. David Says:

    Cream

    why are you so eager for a story on the protesters which just gives them the idiotic attention they seek ?

    What’s the point?

  8. Buc-A-New Says:

    He was being facetious David.
    It was aimed at all of the guys that used to post here that hated JW. They were spewing hatred and predicting public outcry if we drafted him.

  9. ASchianomess Says:

    While on the subject of “TRUST”, any chance the Bucs take a shot at Junior Galette upon his release from the Saints? From what I have read there is very little evidence of any wrong doing on Gallette’s part in his two alleged incidents. He has 22 sacks over the last two seasons and could be an upgrade to the Bucs pass rush. He did tear a pectoral earlier this summer but passed his physical today. Has Licht or Lovie made any comments regarding this Joe?

  10. ASchianomess Says:

    Lavonte David on one side, Bruce carter in the middle and Junior Gallete on the other side……..Love to see Licht make this happen

  11. Pickgrin Says:

    If trusting Winston with the football is Koetter’s biggest concern – then we are looking at a record breaking year for the Bucs offense.

    Alas – this is not the case. Koetter’s biggest concerns will be how to open running lanes and also more importantly, how to keep Jameis Winston upright so that he can deliver clean throws.

  12. OAR Says:

    Speaking for Trump
    “Trump doesn’t care what Pablo thinks, unless it’s his preference to chain link or barbed wire!”

  13. Tiny Tim Says:

    I can’t believe a supposedly face of the franchise would do something like this……..I see why there are protestors:

    Bucs rookie quarterback Jameis Winston has been busy trying to win over fans this spring, and that apparently is the case even when he’s far from his new community in Tampa.

    Winston was at a Houston Astros game in Texas on Sunday when he was recognized by 11-year-old Aden Ponce, who went to the game with his youth baseball team from Austin after their tournament had been rained out. Ponce shook Winston’s hand in line at a merchandise store in the ballpark and was surprised moments later as he checked out when Winston gave him an Astros ball as a gift, even autographing it.

    “My son recognized him,” said Karry Ponce, his mother, who posted photos of Aden and Winston on Twitter. “We were paying for my son’s merchandise and he came up behind him and said ‘Here you go, little buddy’ and handed him the ball, autograph and all. … He was, needless to say, being nice to everybody around him and in his personal space. It was way cool that he came back over out of the blue and did that for Aden.”

    Winston, on break from the team before players report for training camp on July 31, is likely in Houston because his girlfriend, Breion Allen, is a student at Rice and a rising senior guard on the Owls women’s basketball team.

    Ponce said her son’s favorite NFL team is the Broncos, but he knew Winston well enough to spot him Sunday and will be following him now.

    “He follows any good athlete, any game — he just likes sports,” she said. “He hasn’t had an encounter like that before. He was super excited about that.”

    What an embarrassment this “thug” is!!

  14. Lol haha Says:

    Maybe it’s cause anyone with anything bad to say about jw has been run off from here. It’s funny to see the low post count of the jw jock strap club up in here. Lol haha

  15. Buc1987 Says:

    “Maybe it’s cause anyone with anything bad to say about jw has been run off from here.”

    Or they could have just given up on the whole foolishness and left.

  16. The Buc Realist Says:

    @Buc1987

    you mean like the anti-Coach Schaino crowd!!! what rock are they hiding under, or did they just change there user names and act like nothing happened!!!

  17. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    @OAR

    “Pablo was born in America…so Pablo is a citizen. Pablo loves Donald Trump because Donald speaks his mind just like Pablo. Pablo warns OAR not to come down on Pablo because Pablo has many Buc friends. Pablo is a very nice man and Pablo loves everyone including OAR”

  18. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    From what I have read there is very little evidence of any wrong doing on Gallette’s part in his two alleged incidents.

    Then do some googling and more reading.

    From a New Orleans newspaper the Times Picayune via Profootballtalk…

    “A long story by Katherine Terrell of the Times-Picayune details several problems Galette caused in the Saints’ locker room, ranging from a fight with a teammate to a perception that he got lazy after he got his new contract.

    One former Saints teammate said of Galette, “He stayed focused long enough to get paid, then the real Junior came out. Sad.”

    Overall, the report paints a picture of a Junior Galette who was not a popular man in the locker room, and whose departure won’t be mourned by his teammates. New Orleans doesn’t seem like it will miss him.

    Focused long enough to get paid? Haven’t we seen this act before as in 2014.

    At last we have a good locker room with kids working their butts off in the off season, doing the RIGHT things….not just Fameis but ME and GMC and others.

    Why do you all wish to damage this? People here have chastised me as wanting “choir boys” and trying to point out that “choir boys” can’t play football.
    I suspect GMC sang in the choir if he had a decent voice.

    Meanwhile I return the hyperbole back atcha. Would you take a member of ISIS is he could get 10 sacks this year…15 sacks? 20 sacks? Is there any point where you guys draw the line?

  19. tmaxcon Says:

    Pablo for President!!!!!!

  20. Lol haha Says:

    There is no point where most people draw the line anymore. The could care less about how morally bankrupt a person is as long as they win some games. The when the chickens come home to roost they move on to the next questionable character and chant his name and make excuses. Sad that’s the majority now

  21. The Buc Realist Says:

    StPeteBucsFan Says:
    July 27th, 2015 at 3:49 pm
    “Would you take a member of ISIS is he could get 10 sacks this year…15 sacks? 20 sacks?”

    Its a trick question, because it does matter if we wanted him or not, as he would decide to play with a winning team!!!

  22. tmaxcon Says:

    Jameis is biggest issue is going to be convincing Lovie that scoring points is ok and that football starts before November. That’s jameis biggest hurdle

  23. WS99 Says:

    SPBF

    I’m sorry but your explaination of Mixhael Pittman doesn’t hold water. And what you fail to mention is that Galette got voted team captain days after the fight. Just trying to keep you honest sir.

  24. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    I think the virtual trainer will be a bigger deal than we perhaps realize.

    Again this is how astronauts and airline pilots get much of their training. You can do a lot of things virtually.

    Koetter working with Fameis in that trainer will also help Koetter get some trust.
    If Fameis starts off getting repeated virtual ints and is able to learn and begin cutting them down the trust will grow. They may be doing this as I type.

  25. ASchianomess Says:

    @StPeteBucsFan,

    I read all of that, Thank you WS99, my fault for not mentioning that in my previous comment.

    Where Payton and Ryan failed with this guy I think Lovie and Leslie cold be a great influence. I hate to see a talented athlete make a stupid choice(s) and not be given a second chance. Sort of like what we have in Winston and what we had in Pittman.

    Also, Gallette had a meeting a month ago with Goodell, no decison as of yet. In the first case NO CHARGES WERE FILED. Just as in the second case. “IF” there waqs sufficeint evidence then charges would have been filed. But again, no charges filed. Or is everyone guilty when tried in the media / public opinon in StPeteBucsFan’s world?

  26. ASchianomess Says:

    At StPetebucsfan –

    http://wgno.com/2015/02/19/criminal-case-against-saints-junior-galette-dropped/

    Pay attention to where the article states “After interviewing FOUR witnesses”

    The charges were DROPPED!!!!!

  27. ASchianomess Says:

    At StPeteBucsfan –

    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/sports/nfl/saints/2015/06/21/attorney-junior-galette-video/29083281/

    No proof it is Galette in the video, complete denial by Gallette and his attorney.

    Lovie and Leslie can fix any character issues and signing him would be an upgrade to this roster. Not to mention the huge chip he would have on his shoulder when we play those horrid Saints.

  28. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I do most deserve a second chance….even the locker room problems could be specific with the Saints….I’m sure we are looking at him closely. It always depends on the cost/risk…..if we can sign him without having to give up any draft picks to a non guaranteed contract….there is minimal risk. The guy does have talent.

    As for ISIS and sacks….the only thing they know about sacks are the ones they cowardly put over innocent heads before the barbarians cut them off!!!

  29. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    do believe most deserve a second chance

  30. WS99 Says:

    I’m just going to leave this here.

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2496685-br-nfl-1000-ranking-the-top-40-4-3-defensive-ends-from-2014/page/34

  31. WS99 Says:

    Haha or we can re-sign Bowers. Lmao

  32. WS99 Says:

    Lmao. SPBF and others must be real happy. We LITERALLY signed a choir boy over a top ten DE.

  33. Idontwannahearitanymore Says:

    No hablo pablo???

  34. WS99 Says:

    And this is why the seats at RJS are empty. What a fckn joke.

  35. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo loves Tmaxcon…..Pablo saw several Tmaxons in Jurassic World in 3D. They were scary creatures……Pablo thinks Junior Gallette is a scary creature and would like to see him as a Buc”

  36. tmaxcon Says:

    Tampabaybucfan

    you a funny guy…. even funnier is that I went to see Jurassic world in 3d yesterday… which one do I remind you off LOL….

    I am not scary just will not drink the hype and the lovie kool aid without him earning it. right now all he has done is set my beloved team back 3 years with a horrendous free agent signings both years and a lousy draft last year. Oh and he went 2-14 while acting like a condescending A$$ Clown.

    i really admire STPETE and Nole for their blind loyalty to an average to below average coach who will have a career losing record and be behind Raheem Morris and Schiano on the all time wins list after his second year.

  37. WS99 Says:

    Bucs re-signed bowers. Not galette but fckn bowers. Unbelievable!!!

  38. ndog Says:

    Again with the negativity on this site. I just heard Dumeig and Steve talk about some Bucs fans “actually” believe this team could win more than 6 games. I actually believe they could win 9-10. Will they I have no idea but they certainly can as last year we had no o coordinator, a horrible qb and were running a brand new defense for the first time. I mean how can we not get better?

  39. tmaxcon Says:

    ndog
    ..
    when your favorite team is 30-70 and coming one off the most embarrassing 2-14 seasons in league history with 2 blow outs in one season that rank in the top ten of all time NFL blow outs. not to mention the head coach is clueless… Please explain to me the positives…

    this is a 4-12 team max

  40. tmaxcon Says:

    ws99

    wasting time on bowers is just another example of the incompetent lovie smith… what a joke.

    the thing people are missing is that Reps in camp and off-season are VALUABLE it’s not like the old days where they could bring in a guy and see what he has left or pray he gets it… now every rep is valuable and should be reserved for players that can contribute not gambles and flyers that you already know who suck….

  41. Arealbucsfan Says:

    8-8!

  42. The Buc Realist Says:

    4-12 record will make Lovie a career losing coach!!!

  43. ndog Says:

    TMaxon I am glad you asked. First of all we have a qb for the first time ever and I am not sure you people understand how important that is. Also what makes the NFL the best league in the world is how competitive it is. That means coaching is paramount. In that case we are going from 0 to at least a 7 in that category with Dirk. Then on defense Dungy defense looked poor his first year also but got better and better. I fully expect this year’s team to do the same under Lovie as his defense also did that in Chicago.Lastly we did get blown out twice last trust me I am a season ticket holder so I saw one of them first hand. But there were also 9 games we lost by one score so you can’t just ignore those. Now again will we win 10 games I won’t predict that I am certainly hoping for 9 and feel it definitely happen.

  44. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    For you young dudes. Lee Iacocca was considered a brilliant autmotive mind.
    He was the driving force at Ford that led to the Mustang, a model still doing great.
    In 1964 I was in high school and the Mustang was revolutionary! Chevy responded quickly with the Camaro but it was Iacocca who got the jump.

    Fast forward and the Chrysler Corp was in the same place as the Bucs! A steaming pile of dung ready to go out of business.

    Iacocca was hired to save Chrysler. His first year Chrysler still sucked. Iacocca literally had to go Congress to get a loan guarantee to bail them out.

    Then Chrysler fired Iacocca because board members Dallas and Tmax said he sucked. And indeed his first year at Chrysler was no glowing success.

    OK I made that last part up. No they didn’t fire Iacocca and stuck by him. After the cash infusion Iacocca created the mini van and Chrysler rebounded.

    No Dallas I would not fire a guy I hired who had great credentials coming to my company and then the company sucked the first year. I’d probably consider what shape my company was in when I hired him.

    But then we all know Lovie inherited such a deep, talented, well adjusted bunch of fine young men. How could he possibly lose?

  45. WS99 Says:

    It’s a got darn Greek tragedy!

  46. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    (Junior Galette)
    • 10.0 Sacks
    • 33 Tackles
    • 3 Forced Fumbles
    • 2 Passes Defended

    Comparison to

    Michael Bennett
    • 7.0 Sacks
    • 31 Tackles
    • 1 Forced Fumbles
    • 0 Passes Defended

    Note: Michael Bennett has never posted a 10 sack season. Junior Galette has two .

  47. WS99 Says:

    Well I work with/for Jack Welch and he never needed a bail out to turn around GE. He lives by a motto reward those that perform and fire those that don’t. Simple as that!!

  48. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Junior Galette, played 14 games last year with a broken toe. I want you to think about that for a minute. Because one of Michael Johnson biggest grips last year, was he played with a sore ankle.

  49. tmaxcon Says:

    ndog

    i respect your optimism but Dungy and Lovie’s defense is way outdated in this passing league and neither one of those two guys were known for being able to adjust or make changes. Dungy was great for the bucs at the time and just like Lovie never won anything. Dungy’s stubbornness cost the bucs at least 1 Superbowl and that is from the mouth of his players. Dungy only won when.he was told by Irsay to stay the hell away from the offense.. Anyhow, I am a team guy not a player / coach or nostalgia guy… Dungy was good for the bucs but he could finish. We need winners not nice guys. Living in the past does no one any good Dungy and Lovie’s time has passed… Next please

  50. The Buc Realist Says:

    @tamxcon

    If it wasn’t for Lovie, Dungy and Manning would never have a ring!!!!

  51. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Tell’it …Tmaxcon

  52. tmaxcon Says:

    The Buc Realist Says

    Great point… Lovie could not even beat the biggest BIG Game Choker in the history of nfl… No one can choke in big games like Manning.

    LUV

    I still want Mychal Kendricks

  53. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Me 2 Bruh

    We add Junior Galette & Mychal Kendricks…smh…Look Out Man.

  54. ndog Says:

    I don’t think Lovie is an all time great coach but this defense will work with the proper pieces in place and time. You can said it is outdated but several teams, Rams, Seahawks, etc… run a varation of it and they seem to do just fine. Plus this defense is built to play we a lead which was a weakness last year but that was mainly because of a lack of depth. That had been resolved this year with Melton, Conte, and Carter. Last year those guys were street guys this year they are veterans with experience in this defense. This team will be totally different this year and I hope you enjoy it instead of just digging for negatives.

  55. Buc1987 Says:

    Forget about Gallette.

    The Bucs just signed a stud to a one year deal. His name is DaQuan Bowers!

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news.

  56. tmaxcon Says:

    ndog

    please research these players before you bet the house on them…

    conte is a walking concussion and get’s burnt and pouts like a little girl

    melton plays when he wants to and is always hurt. cowboys could not wait to get rid of him

    carter has never played mlb and also has injury history. this one is really worrisome because just like the oline last year there is no backup plan in place if he fails

    it’s not being negative to point out legit short comings and concerns.

    please take a moment to search for bonzi’s assessment of the lovie free agent class. he had a lot of numbers and facts that may enlighten you.

  57. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Tmaxcon

    Lets take a quick real quick

    LDE Junior Galette
    LDT Gerald McCoy
    RDT Clinton McDonald
    RDE Jacquies Smith

    WLB Lavonte David
    • MLB Mychal Kendricks
    SLB Danny Lansanah

    • LCB Alterraun Verner
    • RCB Johnthan Banks
    SCB Sterling Moore

    • S D.J. Swearinger
    SS Bradley McDougald

    Damn

  58. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    87′

    How does signing Quan change anything?

  59. ASchianomess Says:

    WHY?!?! Lovie? Licht? Anybody…..would you sign Bowers???? Makes no sense. Someone check one Buc place to see if Dom and Greg are lurking in there. UN-REAL!!!!

    Sometimes they make it tough to love this team…..

  60. ASchianomess Says:

    LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Lets take a quick real quick

    LDE Junior Galette
    LDT Gerald McCoy
    RDT Clinton McDonald
    RDE Jacquies Smith

    WLB Lavonte David
    • MLB Mychal Kendricks
    SLB Danny Lansanah

    • LCB Alterraun Verner
    • RCB Johnthan Banks
    SCB Sterling Moore

    • S D.J. Swearinger
    SS Bradley McDougald

    And the really sad part is….this could be a reality if Licht / Lovie would unseat thier head’s from thier arse and spend some Glazers millions.

  61. Buc1987 Says:

    LUVMYBUCS Says:
    July 27th, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    “87′

    How does signing Quan change anything?”

    Oh did I forget to mention it was sarcasm. I’m sorry.

    Gallette or Bowers ?…that had to be a tough decision for this defensive guru we have for our HC.

  62. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    smh…87

  63. Buc-A-New Says:

    Armchair GM’s Rock!!!

  64. ndog Says:

    I do my own research and that is by actually watching guys play. As an example if you can’t see that Banks and McDonald are going to be awesome I’m this defense then your crazy. All those guys I mentioned are depth guys except carter and that is exactly what they have proven to be good at spot roles and then they excel. Again trying to make a positive into a negative. You are not talking to a idiot here I have been to every bucs home game since 1994 and saw each of these players pass through here and play live so I know what to expect. BTW did you know Bill Parcells was 3-13 in his first year I guess they should have fired him to. All I am saying is there are positives and negatives just try looking at the positives for once. Plus Jameis is not a good player he is a special player that doesn’t come along very often and he is on your team how does that not get you excited?

  65. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    ^^ When U consider the Quality of those Starters & Depth of that rotation^^

    Even though, I would be a little pi$$ed if it wasn’t a top 5. How could not be a Top 10 defense.

  66. ndog Says:

    Sorry McDougal

  67. tmaxcon Says:

    LUVMYBUCs

    I am all in for that starting lineup.

  68. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    tmaxcon

    Then U have ….

    George Johnson
    Henry Melton
    Akeem Spence
    William Gholston

    Coming off the bench…smh…Damn bruh

  69. Buc1987 Says:

    They had no problem throwing away Glazer cash last season. I wonder if the Glazer boys put a leash on both L&L this season. Wth is going on?

  70. Joe Says:

    1987:

    Can you blame them?

  71. Buc1987 Says:

    No Joe I can’t. That has to be partially the only reason they are signing all these prove it deals for lost cost. That and their off the field crap, but some teams out there have no problem picking up these shady players.

    Why not us? It has to be the Glazer leash.

  72. Buc1987 Says:

    low cost*

  73. Buc-A-New Says:

    What’s the matter 87? Your edit button not working? 🙂

  74. The Buc Realist Says:

    @Buc1987

    Because they are not winners on the field, They are winners inside!!!!

  75. Buc-A-New Says:

    Jamall Charles was in the Special Olympics when he was 10. We shoulda had a scout there and taken a flyer on him then.

  76. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    Can one of you Galette supporters tell me WHY the Saints were happy to simply let him walk? Let me guess. The Saints defense just kicked arse sooo much last year they have double digit sack guys just wandering the halls.

    Yeah Junior was such an impact player he lead the Aint’s to the 28th best defense in the league…three WORSE than the Bucs. And yet the Aint’s are willing to let ole Junior walk. hmmmmmm

  77. Buc-A-New Says:

    They are all just desperate for the next Simeon Rice bro. Also Rice wouldn’t be a household name if he weren’t next to Sapp. The two made each other.

  78. Couch Fan Says:

    The things Galette said on Twitter, stops and makes me pause about the guys mental state and maturity. He doesn’t sound like he’s all there. Not sure the production is worth the headache. Not to mention the guy did it all under his girls account instead of making one himself. Maybe it’s just me but seems cowardly.

  79. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Stpetebucsfan

    2014-Da’ Aints Released

    Roman Harper, Malcolm Jenkins, Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith and Jabari
    Greer.

    2015-Da’ Aints Released

    Junior Galette, LB Curtis Lofton-Traded away they’re All-Star TE Jimmy Graham. An let Ben Grubbs walk.

    They have one of the worst cap situations in the league (Because of the way the structured previous deals).

    Note: Don’t be shocked if they trade or release Drew Brees.

  80. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    This is what Lovie Smith’s specialty is suppose to be.

    He dealt with many head cases in Chicago.

    Guys like

    Olin Kreutz | Thomas Jones | Lance Briggs | Tank Johnson | Adewale Ogunleye | Brian Urlacher | Nathan Vasher

  81. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Olin Kreutz broke his teammate’s jaw in a fight.

    Lance Briggs has three charges of domestic violence against him.

    Brian Urlacher was arrested at least twice for DUI’s.

    Tank Johnson was arrested 3 times in 18 months

    The list goes on and on and on…But these are the same guys he went to the Super Bowl with

  82. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Lance Briggs HAD 3 charges of domestic violence against him.

  83. Buc1987 Says:

    Stpetebucsfan..LUV just gave a very valid reason for the Saints to release him.

  84. Buc1987 Says:

    Buc A New…you’re wrong about Rice. Rice was a stud before he came to Tampa.

  85. Buc1987 Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/player/simeonrice/2502644/profile

  86. WS99 Says:

    Luv

    Facts don’t matter only emotions.

  87. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Remember these dudes, were $15 million over the salary cap before free agency started. They had to restructure Marques Colston & Jahri Evans contracts just to get under the cap. If Colston/Evans would’ve squawked-they would’ve been cut 2.

  88. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    WS99

    U right bruh

  89. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    Yea Buc, Rice was a top 3 pick I believe and one of the best DE in the NFL with Arizona.

  90. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Rice played w/ two of the BEST tackles the league has ever seen

    Eric Swann
    Warren Sapp

  91. Buc-A-New Says:

    I thought it was Warren Sapp and some nose droll nicknamed dude

  92. Buc-A-New Says:

    IF you will enjoy this Lovely demographic you will see that Rice WAS a beast before Sapp but he was a Double Digit Sack guys EVERY yr after teaming up with him
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceSi00.htm

  93. Buc-A-New Says:

    For his first 5 yrs anyway

  94. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Buc-A-New

    Remember how everyone was pi$$ed –that we signed him for a 1yr / $1 Million dollar deal.

  95. Buc1987 Says:

    Rice had double digits in sacks 3 years out of 5 that he was a Card.

  96. Buc-A-New Says:

    He was a Double Digit Sack guy for FIVE yrs str8 once he got next to Sapp with DB in the backend. He was Good from the beginning. But he got Way better next to talent. Talent increases talent in proximity

  97. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Terrible against the run, but one of best pure pass rushers of All Time.

    Funny how most pure pass rushers, are terrible against the run.

    Guys Like Jared Allen, John Abraham, Derrick Thomas, Dwight Freeney, and Pat Swilling.

    Guy that can play— the run & pass equally well— are extremely rare.

  98. Buc-A-New Says:

    Here’s one for you LUV
    SR ranked 13th amongst Pass rushers.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/700371-nfl-history-top-50-sack-artists-of-all-time/page/39
    Not sure if the other 12 in front of him have 5 consecutive seasons of 12Plus sacks but I will do the research

  99. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Buc-A-New

    Swann| Michael Bankston | Rice & Jamir Miller were beast in Buddy Ryan’s 46 Hybrid

    But Rice was a better fit for our scheme though. He also bumped heads with coaches & players (Diva). So safe to say, the change of scenery served him well.

  100. Buc1987 Says:

    “Talent increases talent in proximity”

    Correct and that’s why I want Gallette.

  101. Buc-A-New Says:

    Heck LUV there are Beaches here and Way more fine females. He also got teamed up with DB, RB, JL47, and WS99. I would say that is an Awesome change of scenery

  102. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Good read

  103. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Buc-A-New

    No doubt

  104. ndog Says:

    For those of you that want Junior keep in mind not only his off field issues but the fact that most of his teammates did not like him. I am all for getting him but that likely is playing a factor as well.

  105. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    ALOT of dudes didn’t Like Sapp. But hey long as he did his job-No one really cared outside of Chidi..lol

  106. Buc-A-New Says:

    Let’s all have a Monday night toast to the 2015 BUCCANEERS!!!!

  107. Buc-A-New Says:

    I run two FF leagues already for the site I write on. You guys want to have a JBF Football league? I will comish

  108. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Never done it, might consider playing Fan Duel this year though.

  109. Buc-A-New Says:

    I will set one up tonight LUV. Check back tomorrow. 12 teams allowed. Funny thing here is how WE all will be fighting for ME, VJax, JW, DM etc etc.
    Never had a League where we were All Bucs fans

  110. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Cool-Tomorrow then

  111. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    Simeon Rice had a 16 sack season before he came to Tampa, and 14 and 12 sack seasons after Sapp left town. Rice was an elite pass rusher with or without Sapp. If people want to argue that he fit better in Kiffins scheme I would agree with that. He was a beast regardless. GO BUCS