“Ears Are Wide Open”

April 21st, 2015


There is no question that Phillip Rivers is an outstanding and durable quarterback. The guy hasn’t missed a start, has one losing season in nine years as a starter, and you’d be wrong if you said, “You can’t win a Super Bowl with Rivers.”

One prominent former Buccaneer wants the Bucs to listen closely if San Diego calls.

It’s widely known that Rivers has one year left on his contract and doesn’t seem keen on staying with the Chargers, who likely will move to Los Angeles. Perhaps Rivers is making a money play, or maybe he really wants out of what would be a massive big-city spotlight in L.A., and wants to relocate closer to his Southern roots.

Regardless, the Bucs and Jason Licht might get a phone call with an offer for Rivers.

Former Bucs tight end Anthony Becht, a prominent voice on the Buccaneers Radio Network and Buccaneers.com, as well as a game analyst for ESPN, says he hopes Tampa Bay’s “ears are wide open,” if they get that call.

Becht took to his Twitter account and went on and on making a case for Rivers today.

Joe found this one most compelling. “Rivers for sure has three top end years left and you figure three more as a top 15 QB. That’s a full 6 yrs for a QB to be leading #Bucs or #Titans,” Becht wrote.

Rivers is 33 years old. For the sake of discussion, let’s say Becht is close to the mark, and Rivers has three top years left, plus two more as a barely-above-average starter. Joe would be stunned if Lovie Smith wasn’t supremely interested in making a deal.

Unlike Joe or the typical fan, Jason Licht and Lovie Smith have job security to consider. Rivers is a winner. Any rookie QB is a question mark. Also, Licht reiterated today that he believes the Bucs are very close to being a contender — and that’s with Mike Glennon as the QB on the roster.

Joe knows one guy who would celebrate a Bucs-Rivers deal and possibly soil his pants in the process: Chucky.

141 Responses to ““Ears Are Wide Open””

  1. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Joe knows one guy who would celebrate a Bucs-Rivers deal and possibly soil his pants in the process: Chucky.


    I know you don’t normally do links but that was the line of the day and deserves this one in response.


  2. Tom Edrington Says:

    Rivers would get crushed behind this O-line……..

    Need a younger guy, one who can bounce back from the crushings quicker…….

  3. cmurda Says:

    I vote “no” to proposition Rivers. 2 years ago everyone was ready to throw the towel in on Rivers and now he has 3 Top End years left and 3 more serviceable years left? I’m calling B.S. on that one. I don’t hate rivers but I live in reality and Rivers will be impressive if he can stay in the league as a starter for 3 more years let alone be top end material. Given the choice between 3-6 years ( I think it’s more like 1 or 2) with Rivers or 10-15 years with Winston, I’ll take Winston.

  4. DEEnice07 Says:

    2 words, Jameis Winston

  5. Coburn Says:

    Rivers is 33 years old…. Damn that makes me feel so old… I feel like that draft was only a few years ago…

  6. salish_seamonster Says:

    Depends what the rest of the package looks like. If we get their 1st and 2nd picks too, I’d take it.

  7. Mariota Joe Says:

    If you have a reasonable chance to get a PROVEN NFL QB, you gotta at least entertain the proposition. The Bucs have no other PROVEN QB options.

  8. Bill Says:

    I agree that the Bucs would have to listen, Rivers is a top notch talent. Maybe not Peyton, Brady, or Rodgers, but I’m content saying he can perform as well as any other QB out there.

    My concern would be “why” he wants out of the Chargers? Is it just a dislike for LA, the Chargers organization, or more concerning is the possibility that he just really likes San Diego. If a love for San Diego is what we’re dealing with, then all this speculation is worthless and he will simply retire if/when the team moves.

  9. Bucs_Sam Says:

    Joe, where is your obligatory question?

    Would rivers be the 4th best qb in the division?

    I would dare to say, Rivers is #1 or maybe #2 (behind Brees) in the division.

    Rivers = Playoff contender immediately. if the phone rings, it’s clearly a no-brain-er.

    Is any draft Rookie QB #4 in the division next year? Yes.

    Coaches don’t typically like drafting a good player for the next coach next year when they can win today and keep their job.

  10. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    No thank you to Rivers

  11. Luther Says:

    We shouldn’t even be thinking about this. You have a chance to get your own QB and be set for the next 10-15 years. You don’t trade that away.

  12. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    Maybe Rivers plus their offensive line…

  13. Kevin Says:

    No to a 33 year old QB, No to A.P. Draft Winston and Give Glennon an honest shot to compete with him for the starting job.

    Most people have already mad up they’re mind on glen and if he loses out then it is what it is…..but we need to find our QB and by drafting winston they can take a close look at both of them for the 2015 season and beyond.

    Mariotta is just to quiet for me….I’d rather have a guy with some FIRE!!! Glenn is quiet but we already have him. Nothing to give up for him to see what he can do under Koetter.

  14. Buccfan37 Says:

    Eh Rivers… Uh no, not for our number one pick. Let them fleece some other team.

  15. tmaxcon Says:

    it would be a nice thought if this team was close to a playoff team but it’s a head coach and several years away from a playoff appearance. go with the young guy it’s less of a risk given th fact at rivers age he could easily be 1 year and done. it would be a short sighted move that the glazers will never let happen unless they simply don’t care about wining consistently.

  16. Couch Fan Says:

    I would never give up the #1 pick for a 30+ year old player. I understand the logic of him being proven but I just dont agree. Would rather us draft our own guy.

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    I guess we have to find something to talk about….to pass the time.

    The Bucs are not going to be The Grinch and steal our new toy out from under the tree. It’s just not going to happen, or you’ll see an extremely pissed off fan base albeit a few kooks out there.

  18. Andrew 1 Says:

    If the bucs didn’t have to opportunity to land a great QB in this years draft, then yea I say not only listen to the trade but do everything you can to make the trade happen. But that’s not the case.

  19. port richey george Says:

    if the bucs want to trade the pick for cam newton. I am ok with that. great arm and mobility.
    if the bucs want to trade the pick for phillip rivers. I think that would be a huge mistake.
    rivers is a pocket passer. zero mobility. with the lack of an o-line on the bucs he would get demolished .

  20. Buc1987 Says:

    So then San Diego takes Who? Mariota or Winston? If they take Jameis, then we’re a bunch of idiots and got fleeced. It would also prove something to the “nobody wants Winston but the Bucs” crowd.

  21. Another J Says:

    Anthony Becht needs to be drug tested…

  22. Buc1987 Says:

    9 more days til Christmas!

  23. Barry Says:

    Rivers and SD 1st round pick and maybe a 3rd. Are you nutts? Yes all day long. By the time 6 years is up, Winston could have spent 4 years in the hole.

    So Rivers/Mariota/MG8 Be gone Winston.

    #DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard

  24. Dick2111 Says:

    One minute everyone’s gung-ho to build through the draft.

    Next minute … not so much.

    Little wonder we were 2-14 last year. Long-term vision and strategy … as well as patience … sure do seem to be lacking.

  25. jfat Says:

    This would only make sense if there were a lot of picks involved to go with Rivers. He’s a UFA in 2016 and would eat up a lot of the cap too at 16mm/yr. We’d need to have a contract extension in place to go with the trade or we risk letting him walk after a year while losing our future QB.

    Don’t see all of that getting hammered out in a week.

  26. BucPuck Says:

    I would do it for Rivers and their 1st and 2nd round pick, in exchange for our 1st rounder and Mike Glennon.

  27. Celly Says:

    If it was any pick but the #1 pick, i would say go for it. And yes that includes the #2 pick as well.

    But when you have the #1 pick and need a QB and you have the opportunity to draft a guy that can lead your franchise for the next 10-15 years, you take that guy.

    Man, i’m sure glad i’m not a GM.

  28. Jeagan1999 Says:

    I’d do a trade for our #1 for Rivers and their #1 in a freakin heartbeat! He’s a SURE THING! And could help the Bucs win now! Just get a few good o-linemen in the Draft, and we are instantly as good as any team in the NFC South!

  29. Newbucsfan!!! Says:


  30. Buc1987 Says:

    @Joe see you at Pete and Shorty’s. I just reserved my table. Don’t put us at the back of the room please. lol

  31. rayjay1122 Says:

    All I know is that IF the Bucs were to make a deal with the Chargers and we received Rivers, swap 1st round selections and take their 2nd round selection then we would still have to take the best QB available in the 1st round since Rivers is not a long term answer and then we would have a bridge the gap starter who can win in the NFL until the rookie were able to beat him out but that is all so complicated and messy. I vote we just stay put, take Winston, shore up the OL and hopefully set ourselves up to have a solid offense for the next decade.

  32. Rob Says:

    No thanks. This is the Bucs first chance in forever to have a 15 year, franchise QB – to have stability for a long time. If it’s Winston, so be it, but I want a franchise QB. I don’t want an aging retread, even if he’s been good throughout his waning career.

  33. Morgan Says:

    Duemig practically chewed out a caller who threw out the option about Rivers coming to TB in a trade……why not bring the subject up during your hour with him on the radio show?

  34. miken Says:

    give me rivers, the #19 pick and one more draft pick and I will see you in the playoffs.

  35. HawaiianBuc Says:


    Stop using hashtags. Seriously. This website doesn’t even support them, so stop pretending to be hip and understanding how they hell they work. Keep trolling if you must, but have some dignity and stop making yourself look like, well yourself. #thissitedoesn’tsupporthashtags #youareanidiot #yourenotcool

  36. CalBucsFan Says:

    No way I’m dealing the first for any veteran QB other than Wilson, Luck or Rodgers. Since none of them are going anywhere, then the Bucs should keep the pick. However, trading the pick is something we should be reading more about these last days before the draft, more than enough has been read and said already about Winston/Mariotta. Last year it was Johnny Football, this year it’s Famous Jameis. There really are other QBs out there to consider.

    There are real risks to consider taking either Winston or Mariotta, enough said. But is the risk really that much greater for the Bucs to consider trading down and getting two first round picks for the first, plus maybe even another in the second or third?

    Here’s an idea, maybe Joe would consider an article and putting out a poll about who the 3rd best QB in the draft might be, we can all debate that one for a few days at least. Perhaps it’s Perry, maybe Grayson, or even Hundley. Certainly each have been analyzed more than political candidates running for the presidency and there’s all kinds of stats, tape and talking head opinions on each of them too.

    If the odds of success/failure for one of the other QBs is not much different then W&M, then the Bucs should consider not only getting their next QB, but they may also be able to get a top-shelf DE and starting quality OL pieces.

    I do like both of the QBs at the top and would be very happy with either taking over in Tampa, but maybe #3 is capable of being the “face of the franchise” too. Hey, we Buc fans all know how much Lovie believes in defense first and thinks he can win with just an average QB, so they must be considering their #3 rated QB and a DE if the they believe that QB is not much more of a risk then the top 2 guys, right?

  37. rayjay1122 Says:


    I second that!!! Get a clue Barry!!

  38. Keepitreal Says:

    This would be a stupid move …. Rivers 32 next month has even debated coaching High school, who knows how much longer he wants to play. Is he going to win a SB with Tampa next year… No! So we get a guy for maybe a few years that has been on good teams and never hon to SB. Instead of taking a calculated risk on a franchise QB that dives us 12-15 years. We don’t need a stop gap but a long term approach. Hearing this kind of BS DIVES ME CRAZY!! And to think Joe supports it. Terrible.

  39. SAMCRO Says:

    I think if that scenario was offered to L&L, I think they would have a hard time turning it down. Unless the Glazers gave L&L a reprieve from being on the hot seat if they selected a rookie QB, Rivers does give them their best chances of competing for the division crown now. History doesn’t bode well for rookie QB’s in their first season.

  40. lurker Says:

    If we don’t select Mariota then I would trade the #1 pick to SD and demand their 3rd round pick for the next 3 years…

  41. Keepitreal Says:

    @lurker…. What a joke that would be.. No Rivers!!!!

  42. BrianBucs Says:

    To me, it would really depend on what the rest of the deal was. If it was good for the Bucs and they could get some better players with it, I would say do it. Rivers is established and a proven NFL winner. No rookie QB is

  43. Bogeyking Says:

    Do It! Do It Now!

  44. lurker Says:

    Rivers and Tebow and then we’re talking Super Bowl but SD has to give us a punter and a criminal to keep the Winston supporters happy…

  45. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:


    Even funnier, he includes PEDs and HGH as digs on the supposed FAT guy, Jameis. From selling autographs, to betting, PEDs are one of the few things no one would be dumb enough to accuse Winston of doing. Well, almost no one.

  46. Clint Says:

    There’s nothing that says he has two years left. Hate to tell you but he looked done a few years ago before a recent resurgence.

  47. WS99 Says:

    Phillip is going home to tenn, nothing to see here.

  48. miken Says:

    phillip is not from nor has ever lived in tennessse.

  49. Buc1987 Says:


  50. Jolly Bucs Fan Says:

    Please no, dont mortgage the future for a declining QB, I said the same thing when the Drew Brees trade rumors were happening, even with Rivers we arent going to the SB next year, give us a few years and we can be there with a young franchise QB in Winston/Mariota with the possibility of sustained success

  51. port richey george Says:

    “It’s not etched in stone that Winston’s going 1 and Mariota’s going 2,” Mel Kiper Jr. said today in a conference call with reporters.
    interesting…..maybe mel knows something???

  52. Yungry Says:

    #Let’s #Trade #Barry

  53. Luther Says:

    Mel has the same sources as Jaws

  54. TheDon Says:

    I cant take anyone considereing this serious.

  55. Barry Says:

    @Buc1987 @HawaiianBuc couldn’t have punched me in the face #HeIsStillLiving

    @Bucs1987 Don’t put you in the back put you up front? You’re #Annoying as it is, couldn’t imagine having to see or hear you.

    I don’t want to speak for Joe but I’m almost certain this conversation took place. Joe? @Buc1987 up front? Joe: “Hell no, put that kiss asss as far back as you can.” “On 2nd thoughts send him a private message and tell him we’ve cancelled the draft party.” #WhoTheHellInvitedBucs1987?

    I can’t wait to see all my message board friends at Pete and Shorty’s


    #DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard

  56. WS99 Says:


    You right my bad. It’s close to home though.

    “Titans coach Ken Whisenhunt served as San Diego’s offensive coordinator during Rivers’ resurgence in 2013. And Nashville is about 100 miles from Rivers’ hometown in Alabama.”

  57. Mike10 Says:

    Just yesterday we were told the glazers were heavy in on decisions made, especially involving the top pick… Now u want me to believe L+L would make the move in the best interest of their job security? Come on Joe…

  58. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Trade for Rivers


    Who gives a F*K if you use hashtags.

  59. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Go Ask GMC, LVD, Verner, and Vincent Jackson.

    The veterans that been struggling on bad team after team-Would LUV for Rivers to be on the squad#Bet

  60. Buc1987 Says:

    Barry…I would ask you how old you are, but I know you can’t count that high.

  61. Jordan Says:

    A guy that doesn’t want to move 2 hours north for the sake of his family might also retire abruptly for the sake of his family. He’s already made over 100 million dollars. The upside with Rivers is that we know he can perform like a top-Qb, but he carries a similar amount of risk as say a first round QB. Just different unknowns.

  62. Java Says:

    If both Winston and Mariota are bust Lovie would be kicking himself for years while he’s unemployed for passing on this deal

  63. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Trade for Rivers and that #17th pick in the 1st, that #48th pick in the 2nd

    +Tell them you need that 1st in 2016


    Depends on who’s released (offensive lineman) & who we select in the draft. We good. Longs as we get the dudes in by May, build some continuity across the line

    -We should be alright. Ain’t like Rivers never played behind a bad offensive line before.


  64. Buccfan305 Says:

    Rivers is just like Romo….can’t win the big one….why do FL teams always let other teams unload there garbage used up players on us and draft youthful players and go on to win superbowls????? When we learn?????

  65. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    How Philip Rivers compares against the 2004 Class.

    • 15. Eli Manning (34) 39,755 2004-2014 NY
    • 16. Ben Roethlisberger 39,057 2004-2014 PIT
    • 20. Philip Rivers (33) 36,655 2004-2014 SD
    • 22. Carson Palmer (35) 35,365 2004-2014 3TM
    • 29. Tony Romo (34) 33,270 2004-2014 DAL
    • 72. Matt Schaub (33) 24,311 2004-2014 3TM
    • 232. J.P. Losman 6,271 2004-2011 3TM

    -Philip Rivers (30 pass attempts his 1st two years in the league)
    -Carson Palmer Drafted in 2003-Sat for a year-1st start 2004

  66. Buc1987 Says:

    33 year old Rivers…no thanks. We’re not talking about Montana to the Chiefs….this is just Phillip Rivers. No thanks.

  67. Buccfan305 Says:

    Rivers is a bandage….we need our own franchise QB and Legacy…..Stop picking up other people’s left overs..if San Diego let’s him walk then they know something we don’t…..hint Logan Mankins!!!

  68. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    SD wants Rivers to stay-HE wants to leave.


  69. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    NFL Year-by-Year Passing Yards Leaders (Modern Era)


    • 2014 Drew Brees (35) 4,952 NOR
    • 2013 Peyton Manning (37) 5,477 DEN
    • 2012 Drew Brees (33) 5,177 NOR
    • 2002 Rich Gannon (36) 4,689 OAK
    • 1999 Steve Beuerlein (34) 4,436 CAR
    • 1993 John Elway+ (33) 4,030 DEN
    • 1991 Warren Moon+ (34) 4,690 HOU
    • 1990 Warren Moon+ (33) 4,689 HOU
    • 1983 Lynn Dickey (33) 4,458 GNB
    • 1973 Roman Gabriel (33) 3,219 PHI

    Per: pro-football-reference.com

  70. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Rivers never had the Giants Pass Rush or the Steelers Defense to Help him beat Belichick.

  71. Howard Cosell Says:

    I heard that Rivers has a bolo-tie with magic powers
    and when he laughs his eyes turn into little mouths.

    That’s pretty badass.

  72. Howard Cosell Says:

    Howard jokes with you.
    No fat chicks and old QB’s.
    Rivers, Brees. Those guys were legends,
    but we’d be fools to think they haven’t lost a step or two.
    Very few QB’s make it as long as Payton Manning or Jeff Garcia.
    Remember the Tim Brown-Charlie Garner signings by Gruden?

  73. port richey george Says:

    The Buccaneers, who hold the No. 1 pick in next Thursday’s draft, are set to host the Titans in the 2015 regular season opener for both clubs, Jenna Laine of SportsTalkFlorida.com reports.

  74. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Your right very few QB’s have done the following in their Career

    *G149-GS144 || QBrec: 88-56-0|| 64.7 % || 36655 || TD’s: 252 || 122

    With a Career Y/A of 7.8

    Yep your right now many at all

  75. port richey george Says:

    According to a league source, the Jacksonville Jaguars will be playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Week 5 on Oct 11.

    That game will take place in Tampa at Raymond James Stadium. You can find more Bucs games here.

  76. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Automatically would have the 2nd Best QB in the NFL South. With an axe to grind with Drew Brees

  77. port richey george Says:

    florida sports talk:

    In Week 7, the Bucs will travel to Washington to take on the Redskins on Oct. 25.

  78. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    Ok this old guy is home. Lets get the rational discussions that don’t include JW or MM.

  79. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:


  80. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Philip Rivers Pass Completion % for his career Ranks #7 All Time (64.7%)

  81. NonyaDamnBucsiness Says:

    Not that I’m advocating it but the Rivers to VJ combo was pretty potent. You think VJ doesn’t still dream of his days catching passes from Rivers?

    Personally, I’m all in for JW5

  82. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    NFL Active Passing Touchdown % Leaders

    • Percentage of Touchdowns Thrown when Attempting to Pass
    • Minimum 14 attempts per scheduled game to qualify as leader.
    • Minimum 1500 pass attempts to qualify as career leader

    1. Aaron Rodgers (31) 6.5% 2005-2014 GNB
    2. Peyton Manning (38) 5.9% 1998-2014 2TM
    3. Tony Romo (34) 5.7% 2004-2014 DAL
    4. Tom Brady (37) 5.5% 2000-2014 NWE
    5. Philip Rivers (33) 5.4% 2004-2014 SD
    6. Drew Brees (36) 5.3% 2001-2014 2TM
    7. Ben Roethlisberger (33) 5.1% 2004-2014 PIT

  83. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    I hear you and respect your POV.

    I’m banking on a Proven Top Ten QB over the next 4 or 5yrs
    W/ a young QB prospect to groom.

    Over potential.

  84. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    As it pertains to potential down the line vs A Proven Commodity

    “A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.”

    Per: George S. Patton

  85. WS99 Says:


    You coming to Pete and Shorty’s next week? I don’t wanna hear that you live in CO and can’t make it. #excuses

  86. BringBucsBack Says:

    Why can’t we be the “fleecer” instead of always being the “fleecee”?

    Give them the #1 pick for:
    Phillips, 2015 1st & 2nd rd.; 2016 1st; TE A. Gates and their starting LT.

    No? Well then, no!

  87. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    BringBucsBack Says:

    “Give them the #1 pick for:
    Phillips, 2015 1st & 2nd rd.; 2016 1st; TE A. Gates and their starting LT.”

    I’m down with trade scenario my brotha#SignMeUp

  88. DRAFT #5 Says:

    No way do you trade the #1 pick for Rivers at 33. The would be the nail in the coffin for L & L for sure. Have we learned nothing from trading picks for older players that don’t pan out. The only way teams become successful in the league is by drafting well. See Seahawks, Packers, Ravens, Steelers, Pats ect.

    Oh by the way they drafted their quarterbacks by the way also and developed them. Novel idea.

    Also if he is so unhappy that the Chargers could move to LA thus not wanting to up root his family why the hell would he want to move clear across the country to Tampa. Does not make sense to me.

    You would have to get him to sign a new deal prior to coming here as he only has one year left on the current one. I would want that done prior to a trade to assure he is not one and done here.

    Way to many moving parts on this. Just draft your franchise quarterback and start winning games.

    One final point teams don’t trade franchise QB’s. If they are trading him they think he is done, can’t resign him (why would we be able to) or damaged goods ( injury- he does have back issues).

  89. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    LOL DB I wish I could get down to Co. for the draft to watch it with another of my Bucs buddy on his 84 inch with Supreme sound. It is only 12 hours away If i go through Yellowstone. I live in Montana. I DAMN sure wish I could get down there to Pete and Shorty’s and party with yall. Im glad you guys are actually going to meet each other. I will be interested to see how you guys interact afterwards. lol. I also wish I could meet Joe so he would let me have my old name back.

  90. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *I’m down with that trade scenario my brotha#SignMeUp

  91. Dave Pear Says:

    I think Barry’s hashtags are directed at me.
    #DP=Dave Pear
    #HGH=Human Growth Hormone
    #PED=Peformance Enhancing Drugs
    #BrainDeadRetard=Insult to me
    I think in Barry’s delusional mind that I might actually be Dave Pear, who may or may not have used PED’s and or HGH.
    I heard recently that Barry was the President and founder of a new AA.
    It’s A$$iholics Anonymous.
    He opens every meeting with…
    Hi I’m Barry and I’m an Assiholic.

  92. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Dudes is Soooo Unhappy because the Spanos Family is Historically Cheap!!!

    They continually let veterans after veteran– WALK

    If you don’t show a commitment -to-The Building blocks of your Organization-WHY SHOULD U STAY!!


    • Drew Brees QB
    • Natrone Means RB
    • LaDainian Tomlinson RB
    • Michael Turner RB
    • Darren Sproles RB
    • Joe Washington RB
    • James Brooks RB
    • John Jefferson WR
    • Vincent Jackson WR
    • Anthony Miller WR
    • Yancey Thigpen WR
    • Jim Lachey T
    • Louis Vasquez G

    • Fred Dean DE
    • Burt Grossman DE
    • Leslie O’Neal DE
    • Gary Plummer LB
    • Junior Seau LB
    • Antonio Cromartie CB
    • Rodney Harrison SAF

  93. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Hearing about it-As oppose to bearing witness to it– with 1st hand knowledge is two completely different things.

    River’s knows for A fact now, how them dudes get down

  94. Barrys Barrister Says:

    My client and I have tired of the relentless slander.
    We’re filling suit for damages totaling 10000 units of internet cool
    and free food, drink and seating at Joes draft party.
    Furthermore we require security for my client to protect him from
    the Winstonites. My client is entitled to his opinion regarding Mr Winston.

  95. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Barrys Barrister


  96. Buc1987 Says:

    Forget it LUV this team is more than a Phillip Rivers away from contending, it would be a waste imo.

  97. WS99 Says:

    Silly season indeed.

  98. Buc1987 Says:

    LUV…I know all this trade talk gets your blood going and all, but I don;t see it happening. I just don’t. I can’t see all those fans at Raymond Jameis Stadium waiting for the name to be called and then they pop a trade. Perhaps you can, but nope, not on this end.

    It’s good to see you get excited though.

  99. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    As it pertains to FOOTBALL –Winning!!! gets my BLOOD going. Nothing more nothing less.

    Trade for Philip Rivers

  100. Buc1987 Says:

    LUV…wrong trades and prospects get your blood going.

    Can you honestly tell me this team is a Phillip Rivers away from going to the playoffs?

  101. ATrain Says:

    87 is excited about Winston being the Pick not about the season or winning ..Its all about WINSTON..

    Please they could say Aaron Rodgers was up for trade and 87 would say no we need Winston..

    87 all I can say is have a Dr on stand by in case the Bucs get a pair of golf balls and actually make a great choice.

    Rivers and their 1st round.this year and next. 2nd round and their LT…

    Then draft a DE and go for OL….

    1player WILL not change this team..Even WINSTON THE GREAT!!!

    by the way Fathead has your Winston figure ready

  102. LUVMYBUCS Says:



    Bet since 2004(Birthdate of LUVMYBUCS screen name) Ole Bucs Forum/TBO, etc, etc

    *Same screen name… No Ice….No Chaser

    I’ve complied a very solid list of prospects-That I’ve wanted team to acquire.

    How about U Rook? Lol

    And for Rivers-Yes …He can get us to the Dance

    Defense was playing like a Top Ten unity after the Break.

  103. LUVMYBUCS Says:



    February 4th, 2013 at 11:13 am


    • Do you think Bucs should bring in Alex Smith to challenge Freeman?

    February 4th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    -Alex Smith’s Contract:

    • 3/20/2012: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $9 million guaranteed — an initial roster bonus of $3 million, all of Smith’s 2012 base salary, and $1 million of his 2013 salary. Another $9 million is available through incentives, though $5.25 million of them are “unlikely to be earned.” An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available. 2012: $5 million, 2013: $7.5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due in March), 2014: $7.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    February 4th, 2013 at 11:28 am
    • 70% passer before the concussion . Ran the spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer. Probably takes a fourth- or fifth-round pick to pry him away….I’m Just saying…Luv Free, but he seriously needs the competition.

    CHIEFS went from the scrap heap to the playoffs in one Season!!!

  104. Buc1987 Says:

    I’m not going to argue with either one of you. My affection for Winston has NOTHING to do with it.

    IMO this team is NOT a Phillip Rivers away from making the playoffs….

    Hell it’s not going to happen anyways….

    ATrain…you don’t know me well enough. I’m not all about just Winston. Not even close. I care about this team as much as the next fool on this site.

  105. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    February 4th, 2013 at 11:13 am


    • Do you think Bucs should bring in Alex Smith to challenge Freeman?

    February 4th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    -Alex Smith’s Contract:

    • 3/20/2012: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $9 million guaranteed — an initial roster bonus of $3 million, all of Smith’s 2012 base salary, and $1 million of his 2013 salary. Another $9 million is available through incentives, though $5.25 million of them are “unlikely to be earned.” An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available. 2012: $5 million, 2013: $7.5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due in March), 2014: $7.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    February 4th, 2013 at 11:28 am
    • 70% passer before the concussion . Ran the spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer. Probably takes a fourth- or fifth-round pick to pry him away….I’m Just saying…Luv Free, but he seriously needs the competition.

    CHIEFS went from the scrap heap to the playoffs in one Season!!!

  106. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    I respect your POV-I just feel differently my brotha#NoWorries

  107. Buc1987 Says:

    “I’ve complied a very solid list of prospects-That I’ve wanted team to acquire.”

    “How about U Rook? Lol”

    LUV…That’s your thing man. I don’t compile a list of prospects, that I have no control over the team making. That’s what you do. Not saying I don’t appreciate reading what you put out. I’m saying that’s what you like to do and it does get your blood flowing. To each his own.

    I was blogging on NFL.com under Buc1987 for 2 years before they changed their format to facebook names. I don’t do facebook. I stumbled onto JBF in 2013. Prior to NFL.com I was on AOL chat for about 2 years bashing every other teams fans the Bucs faced week in and week out.

    Hell it’s not about who did this and who did that.

  108. Buc1987 Says:

    “CHIEFS went from the scrap heap to the playoffs in one Season!!!”

    Really…you really think the Chiefs were a scrap heap to the playoffs just from signing Alex Smith. True scrap heap the prior season, but what were they the season before that? How many pro bowlers were on that team?

    Your the one with all the stats, you know what I’m talking about…

  109. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Of Course Andy Reid no doubt is a big factor to the Chiefs success-

    But without a shadow of doubt– Alex Smith was big part of that team going from 2-14 in (2012)…To *11-5 in (2013)

    (2012) Alex Smith* (29)
    QB G(15) -GS (15_
    -QBrec: 11-4-0

    *60.6 || 3313 || 23 TD’s || 7

    + the dude rushed for almost *500yds

  110. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Yeah I hear you about the Facebook thing.

  111. Danati74 Says:

    F*ck that. Bucs need to draft someone beginning their career, not ending. Period.

  112. Buc1987 Says:

    The Chiefs were 10-6 in 2010 and 7-9 in 2011. Then 2-14 in 2012. Alex Smith and Andy Reid come aboard and they go 11-5 in 2013. The team was NOT that bad before Alex Smith is what I’m saying. They had a lot of talent on that team. Unlike our Bucs.

    Then the Chiefs went 9-7 last year.

    I just think the Bucs are 2-3 years away from being anything at all.

  113. Buc1987 Says:

    Then again if a coaching change takes place. We start all over again. 2-3 years again and again and again.

  114. Barrys Barrister Says:

    @Buc1987 Says:

    “I’m not going to argue with either one of you. My affection for Winston has NOTHING to do with it.”

    Run to him. Run to him now and tell him that you love him with all of your
    heart and never let him go!

  115. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Barrys Barrister


    “Then again if a coaching change takes place. We start all over again. 2-3 years again and again and again.”

    I have 2 admit your right brotha

  116. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Jason Lost would give up three first rounders to get Rivers and their next 2 7th round picks.

    Considering the 1st overall is worth three 1st rounders, I think we should get Rivers plus two first rounders.

    However, this trade will not happen, because Rivers would retire before agreeing to go to a team with no offensive line.

  117. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I would be willing to give up our 2nd rounder for Rivers though…a deal Dominick would have been able to work out, but certainly not Jason Lost.

  118. Buc1987 Says:

    Barrys Barrister …I don’t think I ever laughed as hard as I just did from something posted on this site.

    LMAO…I almost choked on my boiled peanut and pissed myself.

  119. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Buc1987 Says
    “IMO this team is NOT a Phillip Rivers away from making the playoffs….”

    First thing you’ve said in a year that I agree with.

    Unfortunately, you probably DO think we are a Jameis Winston away…which would bring us back into disagreement again.

  120. ATrain Says:

    87 you say this team is not a Rivers away from the playoffs.

    But all you have said is how Winston will turn this team around.

    What does that mean he will take us to 4and 12…I know Rivers can do that..
    Like it or not Rivers is proven He can play in the NFL.. Winston is a guess.

    U don’t comment on hear with out paying respects to Mr Football.

    87 AKA Winston.

    Please your man crush is as obvious as Winston love for crab legs.

  121. Buc1987 Says:

    Barrys Barrister…I’ve been married to my wife for nearly 20 years now, but.

    I go gay for Jameis Winston!

  122. Buc1987 Says:

    ATrain Says:
    April 21st, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    “87 you say this team is not a Rivers away from the playoffs.

    But all you have said is how Winston will turn this team around”

    Don’t make up BS. I never said this team is going to be turned around with Winston alone. You’ve got the wrong guy. This team has a loooong ways to go imo. Never said it and never will. In fact I dispute fans that think that.

    Damn some people are so ignorant.

  123. SAMCRO Says:

    @Buc1987 says’

    I go gay for Jameis Winston!

    At least that would be consensual…. 🙂

  124. Buc1987 Says:

    ATrain…This team is 2-3 years away with Rivers or Winston. Is that good enough for you now?

    I’ve been a fan for 28 years now. This team has NEVER had a franchise QB. Never. That’s what I’m willing to roll the dice for with Winston. That’s why I’m so passionate about Jameis. Not just Jameis Winston. 28 effing years man. The time has come. The time is now. If they draft him and it doesn’t work out. Then I’ll wait some more for another chance for one.

  125. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Barrys Barrister

    U win the internet Buddy…Lol-Side still hurting


    Glad we can agree to disagree my brotha. Nite@

  126. Buc1987 Says:

    Why do people try to rattle my cage with nonsense?

    Is it because I’m so passionate about the Bucs?

    I wish they would do more research in the archives before they spout off about how I feel or what I’ve said. It’s not THAT hard to do. Google is your friend.

  127. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    Hey 87
    You have BIG Buttons that are not hidden Whatsoever that Scream “Push Me!!!”

  128. Buc1987 Says:

    My wife just needs to lock me in a closet for the next 8 days.

  129. Buc1987 Says:


    This IS actually me in 2013 and it’s no lie either during the Thursday nighter against the Panthers. “THIS SUCKS” I don’t want to have to make signs like this anymore and go to games. I’m very, very passionate about the Bucs. I HATE basketball. I HATE baseball. I don’t watch hockey anymore. As far as sports go, all I have is the Bucs.

    Home opener 2013 I stood out on the corner of Himes waving a full size Buc flag for over an hour with beer in hand. Not tailgating, cooking hot dogs and BS. As I waved my flag I told every Buc fan that passed by on the way to the stadium to “be loud today”. My wife held up a sign to traffic going by that said “Be Loud Today.” Then about an hour before the game I marched on into the stadium with that Be Loud Today sign and stood by the escalators for 45 minutes. I held it up to Buc fans as they rode up the escalator cheering me on.

    Why did I do all this? Passion. Our teams fans suck arse as far as I’m concerned. At least the ones that go to the games do. Too busy with their damn I-diot Phones than to be loud when our D is out on the field. That’s why I did it. I could have just been the casual fan that went to the game and sat there waiting for something good to happen. Perhaps I’m TOO big of a fan.

    I went up to a fan during the first quarter of last seasons home opener against the Panthers. He was just sitting there at the picnic tables all by himself eating his hot dog and chilling. I asked him “can you tell me why this stadium is so quiet right now when our D is out on the field and your just sitting there eating you hot dog?” I told him it happens every game that I go to. His answer : “They will get loud when the team starts winning”. I thought to myself that’s BS and I would have told him that, but he was twice the size of me.

    Perhaps I AM the biggest Bucs fan on the planet. I don’t know, but I do know I’m up there with the best of them, if there’s any real ones left.

  130. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    But you said you were skinny 87.

  131. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Rivers n their 1st rounder. all day long. i wouldn’t do it without the draft pick included

  132. A Gator that loves the Bucs Says:

    Brass Monkey Junkey you Funkey Monkey. We don’t need a bandaid.

  133. WS99 Says:

    Yea rivers for a first overall is ludacris. I wonder how many Ints he threw last year? I’m sure that doesn’t matter.

  134. BUC IT Says:

    I guess I am just selfish but I am kind of think we are due to get a Joe Montana, peyton manning, tom brady, joe namath, aaron rodgers, brett farve, john elway type of quarterback! So with that hope I’ll pass on Rivers.

  135. grafikdetail Says:

    Albert Breer: Jameis Winston’s visit to Jets is now off. Both he and Marcus Mariota are just about done with pre-draft process.

  136. ARMY BUC Says:

    I think the same thing was said about Drew Brees when he went to the Saints and we passed on him as well. 6 years with a proven QB Yes please!

  137. WantstaStayaBuc Says:


    “Don’t make up BS. I never said this team is going to be turned around with Winston alone.”

    “This team is 2-3 years away with Rivers or Winston. Is that good enough for you now?”

    You’re kidding me right? You’ve called Winston the “Savior”. You and the other Winstonites have said, we gotta get the guy with the questionable character because we need to win NOW and can’t wait for the team to develop Mariota. Now you say, well it’ll take awhile because no matter who the QB is, we won’t be that good anyway.

    I guess now that the Bucs have hinted that they’ll take Mr. Morally Challenged no matter what, you don’t need to pretend anymore.

  138. Dave Pear Says:

    You DID say Winston was going to win a Super Bowl in 3 years.
    Either with us or whatever team drafted him.
    Just saying.

  139. bucs4lyfe Says:

    hell no licht build your own team already, theres no time to be pulling a new Orleans type trade, look how far they have fallen. the biggest mistake you can make is taking a shortcut unless you just don’t think those two quarterbacks can reach rivers talent and I don’t think it’s that high of a ceiling to reach. I see 3 years then a significant drop just like brees

  140. Buc1987 Says:

    Dave Pear Says:
    April 22nd, 2015 at 6:47 am

    You DID say Winston was going to win a Super Bowl in 3 years.
    Either with us or whatever team drafted him.
    Just saying.”

    Yes I did, and that’s a far cry from saying all we need is Winston.

  141. Buc1987 Says:

    WantstaStayaBuc …don’t lump me into a group. I said Lovie needs to win now and can’t afford to develop a project like Mariota, that’s about as far as I’ve taken it.

    Does “win now” mean playoffs? Hell no it doesn’t.

    Do I have to go back into the archives of this site to show people on here that I said this team has a long ways to go before they will contend for anything?

    Do I have to go back and pull up where I said if the o-line doesn’t get fixed Winston’s a dead man walking?

    No I don’t think I should have to do any of this, because if you people know so much about what I’ve said, you can do it yourselves.

    I’m not backtracking anything.