Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer & Jason Licht
November 13th, 2014
Yes, Joe’s a Josh McCown denier.
Joe can’t accept that a McCown return as the 2015 starter is in the best interest of Joe’s beloved Buccaneers.
So what if the Bucs decide to go a different route at quarterback but not draft one with franchise potential?
It’s rather interesting that two potentially hot QB names in free agency are Brian Hoyer of the Browns, and Ryan Mallett, who takes over the Texans’ starting gig on Sunday.
Mallett, 26, was drafted by New England in the third-round back in 2011. He was traded to Houston on Aug. 31. Hoyer, 29, was Mallett’s 2011 teammate in New England.
Bucs general manager Jason Licht was a top personnel chief under Bill Belicheat and was with the Pats when Mallett and Hoyer were in the house. Licht also was the Arizona Cardinals’ director of pro personnel when Hoyer was acquired by Arizona in 2012.
Now Joe has no idea what Licht thinks of Hoyer and Mallett, but there certainly are a lot of connections and familiarity. Both players have been well respected at their various stops.
Joe certainly will have his eye on Hoyer and Mallett through this season. The Bucs have to do something to upgrade their quarterback situation next season. All options, at this point, should be on the table.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
If I were the Glazers, and Lovie/Licht came to me with this plan, I’d feel all that much better about firing their asses. In fact if their answer is anything but, “We’re targeting a franchise QB at the top of the draft,” it’s an open-and-shut decision IMO.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Sanchize was also available in the off-season and neither licht or lovie thought he stood up to the standards of a buccaneer man like johnson, verner, cousins, collins, mccown, the JV plant offensive coordinator, etc
November 13th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
I start off by admitting I don’t know if it is even possible at all but Jimmy Garoppolo looked good the times I got to see him play…
That said I like Hoyer… anyone who can win with the Browns (something like 5-0 last year before getting hurt and this season winning record)…. I can’t say anything about Mallet because if he has any true experience, I haven’t seen him play against NFL defenses.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
The only way it makes sense to bring in a FA is if we trade Glennon……that way we recieve a pick & don’t have to use one for the FA.
But, I think our best option is to draft a QB….not necessarily with our first pick (think we should trade down for extra picks)
And….let that QB compete with Glennon for the starting job.
Like it or not, we have to start building our lines…..and any QB would not be effective without that.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:18 pm
A shiny new rookie franchise QB is the ONLY way fans will buy tickets next season.
Some may say they make enough money off of TV, so they don’t need to sell tickets. That’s hogwash. The rich always want to get richer.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
I read that as “Bucs general manager Jason Licht was a top personnel CHEF under Bill Belicheat”…sure would explain a lot.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
First thing that popped into my mind was mankins. Second thought, no thanks.
With the first pick in the 2015 NFL draft the TB Fuccaneers select Hingle mccringleberry long snapper from San Francisco state community college
November 13th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
So Joe, you’re suggesting that they would replace their career backup (the starter) with another career backup???
Please, that’s why this whole mess is moving towards FUBAR.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Forget Mallett. If he’s bad, he’ll be lucky to land anywhere. If he’s good, Houston will either resign him or franchise him.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
licht is an idiot and has no business being a GM based on the trades he has made and the value he has gotten in return.
the guy gives away the farm for a busweiser with a whiskey chaser.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:39 pm
If Mallet lights it up in Texas don’t count on him not being resigned by the Titans so I think that option is unlikely.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:39 pm
Sorry that should have said Texans!!
November 13th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
give chucky total control
get Schiano as chief talent evaluator or whatever
bring back dominic/ he was good at trading and getting value
get derrick brooks on the defensive coaching staff
thats a MEAN machine team right there. but it will never happen. those guys are too strong for the glazer girls.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Robert 9 I have to disagree with you, got a speeding ticket on the way to work and its been nothing but problems today. The value of that Budweiser and whiskey chaser is sounding pretty good to me. I don’t think some of our current players would warrant a gatorade in return.
November 13th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
the bucs will trade glennon for a glass of warm milk, keep lovies mancrush mcclown and his contract, draft a rookie qb and destroy him in year one.
top 5 pick again we get after that. it, us, the raider and jacksonville competing for the top pick for several years
November 13th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
@87ForJameisOrMariota
Glad to see you’ve expanded your moniker….In that spirit here is a new one I suggest:
87ForJameisOrMariotaorTradeforpicsWillsettleforQBlikeCookorPettytoCompetewithGlennonNeedextrapickstoimproveLines
November 13th, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Lapdog Licht and his elite connections to greatness that is a couple of backup QBs. How exciting?
What was the point of this article again?
November 13th, 2014 at 2:02 pm
I can’t think why I should think they will make the correct decision this year. I have too many examples that they didn’t last year. I guess we can all hope for luck to be the reason for hope.
November 13th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Mallet will do a Kirk Cousins…two or three good games until D coordinators have film on him and then he’ll suck. Hoyer might be decent, but no better than Glennon (once signed on this team). So says Toes on the Nostadamus 🙂
November 13th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
New GM & HC….
November 13th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Fire Lovie. Keep Licht.
November 13th, 2014 at 2:18 pm
Lol 1bucfan88 is on point! He said it perfectly! Let’s land a top 5 pick when marriotta and Winston are on the board and sign hoyer or mallet and pass on these franchise QBs!! Sounds smart.. If that’s there plan they should get fired. Randy Gregory is a beast though he could end up going one and bucs do have a dieng need for DE/Pass rush, but it would
Be mind boggling if bucs pass on a franchise QB and sign a career backup again cause teams let these guys walk for a reason. And frankly, anyrhig bill gets rid of I wouldn’t wanna touch. Look at Mankins LOL. Patriots are like 3-0 vs bucs In these trades. Even aqib and Blount contributed heavily for them last season
November 13th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Hoyer….Mallett….Say it aint so. Just keep losing and get us a blue chip quarterback for once in Franchise history….
November 13th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
I’ve liked Mallet all along and Hoyer impressed the hell out of me when we played them. Maybe it’s just grass is greener sort of thing. Kind of how when Freeman (Dougie) toasted the Vikings on Thursday Night Football and they all of a sudden wanted him. I think letting Hoyer go would be a huge mistake for the Brownies. They’re playing better than ever right now and their backup quarterback, what’s his name, is going to set them back 5 years.
November 13th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Peter King of TheMMQB.com and NBC’s Football Night in America reported on Sunday that the Browns haven’t made Hoyer an offer since May 2014, when they extended a proposal that quickly was rejected. With Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer tearing an ACL two days after signing his new contract, the Browns suddenly have an opening.
Hoyer, who tore an ACL of his own last year, surely realizes that he carries the risk of injury for the rest of the regular season, and perhaps postseason. Because Hoyer, who was undrafted, never has received a significant payday, the Browns could offer a short-term deal that gives Hoyer real security, but that doesn’t compel them to dump Manziel.
Two years, $18 million, fully guaranteed. With Manziel under a highly affordable contract through 2017 and the Browns holding fifth-year option for 2018, inking Hoyer through 2016 gives the Browns maximum flexibility. Manziel may not like it; if he doesn’t, he should commit himself to beating out Hoyer. If that happens, the Browns would be able to justify benching Hoyer, since Manziel by rule can’t get a new contract until after the 2016 season.
November 13th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
^^^^Hoyer isn’t coming here and don’t want him. Don’t want Mallet and the Patriots didn’t want Mallet. Draft a QB, it is as simple as that. Sorry folks, but you can’t keep McCown and Glennon around. I would let McCown go and keep Glennon as a backup to compete against Mariota or Winston.
November 13th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
TBBF…lol I don’t think so Homie don’t play that.
If this team has a chance and shot to FINALLY get a potential franchise QB. Every other problem or need, needs to be put on the back burner.
I don’t want them fixing the rest of the team and finishing 8-8 one year then 7-9 the next or 9-7 after that. NEVER having another shot a potential franchise QB.
These guys only come around so often and you have to be in the right spot in the draft to land one of them. This is the PERFECT time to FINALLY do it.
BTW…how is it that you watch Bucs games in N.C.? NFL Ticket or going to a bar?
Because either one is a waste of money, but to each his own I guess.
November 13th, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Began the coaching search
Head Coach Candidates’
• Jim Harbaugh
• Todd Bowles
Offensive Coordinators
• Rob Chudzinski
• Bill Lazor
• Cam Cameron
Defensive Coordinator
• Buddy Ryan
• Wade Phillips
*Hire Scot McCloughan as a personnel exe.
Keep churning & burning -Keep building through the draft/mix in a few quality veterans-to help cultivate competitive culture
Trade a low rounder for QB Chase Daniels
November 13th, 2014 at 3:19 pm
Lovie is getting another year, maybe even two.
This really occludes the quarterback situation.
I’d like to know what kind of offense we’re going to run next year before we pick a quarterback.
November 13th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
If this is our direction at qb, we will be horrible again next year.
Mallett is just another version of Glennon (who is terrible).
Hoyer plays hard but can he lead us without a run game and a porous D?
If we keep drafting qb’s in the first round eventually one of them will be good and stay here in Tampa.
November 13th, 2014 at 3:40 pm
I say NO to both their asses for the one simple point YOU keep bringing up JOE which is how can we expect to win the division with the 4th best qb in the division…I dont see Cam, Matty and damn sure not Drew in either of these guys….quit jackin around and draft a qb with our first rounder
November 13th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
This whole “franchise QB” thing is going to likely depend on:
Who they get to be OC next year and what he and Lovie can agree on
If a new OC comes in then he will prefer his QB of choice and will prob be part of the package to get a good OC in here. Likely a new OC won’t want either this line or this line coach either.
I think they have a better chance of a new line coach than a whole new line to possibly satisfy a new OC.
This QB deal will depend much on who the OC is next year.
November 13th, 2014 at 4:30 pm
Let’s not forget Sam Bradford may be available as well and at a modest contract only loaded with incentives.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Dusthty Rhothdes Says:
November 13th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Sanchize was also available in the off-season and neither licht or lovie thought he stood up to the standards of a buccaneer man like johnson, verner, cousins, collins, mccown, the JV plant offensive coordinator, etc
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The fact that you bring up Sanchez after his limited exposure and barely adequate results suggest you have no idea what you’re talking about anyway.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:05 pm
If we have the chance to draft Marriota and we don’t, our front office is stupid beyond words.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
Marriota is basically like a hybrid of Kaepernick/Russell Wilson/Aaron Rodgers. If we can’t get him, I’d be ok with Winston or Hundley.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
haven’t we learned better than to pick up what the patriots are willing to leave behind?
November 13th, 2014 at 9:22 pm
LUVMYBUCS Says:
“Defensive Coordinator
• Buddy Ryan”
That actually got a good laugh out of me…. At least with the Buddy system in play we could trick teams with fake injuries before halftime like he did to Glanville’s Falcons back in the day when he coached Philly and who could forget that Buddy was 20 years ahead of the Saints as far as bounties went:) I had an old USF pal who was a serious bettor back in that era and he actually wanted to drive up to GA on 75 that Sunday and kill Buddy as he placed a moderate amount of coin on the back in black Falcons and Philly ended up with the W…. Talk about coaches from a bygone era: I wonder what Buddy would say about GMC being so “polite” to the opponent….. I would say that the Bucs need a hard ass coach to shake things up but things did not work out well with Greg S. Guys like Ditka and Buddy R would have a lot of trouble coaching in this era….
November 14th, 2014 at 1:27 pm
Better to keep McCown, trade Glennon, and draft a QB of the future. But not necessarily Mariota or Winston, doesn’t have to be, just find somebody good. They are out there.