“Sounds Like A Weak Answer”
October 4th, 2014
Mike Glennon knows his role as a backup turned starter who is not allowed to talk like a No. 1 quarterback yet because his head coach won’t give him the job.
Glennon even knows how to respond like a guy who should speak like a No. 2.
Here was a Glennon exchange with the New Orleans media this week, via the Saints official website.
Reporter: How have you dealt with being the starter last year, having Josh McCown come in and now you are the starter again? How have you dealt with all of this and what is your mindset going forward as Josh will eventually be healthy again?
Glennon: “Take it one week at a time. It sounds like a weak answer but that’s really the case, especially in the NFL. You just have to take it one week at a time, focus on the game at hand, and move on to the next one. Right now our focus is on the Saints.”
Yes, Mike, it is a “weak answer.” Joe hopes Glennon officially will get Lovie’s blessing soon and, therefore, feel free to talk and act like the true leader of the Buccaneers. End the Josh McCown Experience already. There’s no point.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:08 am
End the tampa bay buccaneer experiment. There is no point.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:12 am
At some point he just has to take the job. Last season, Shiano handcuffed him to save his own skin, he did alright, but took no real shots to win a game by putting the team on his back for fear of a mistake.
It is not easy to win in the NFL, and he was a big part of winning the game in Pittsburgh. He took the job there, and has to keep playing within the limits of the team.
The call by Smith seems easy to me, but pride may get in his way, foolish pride. I don’t think Glennon will melt down like Freefall did with the deserved lack of confidence instilled by his leadership. He will just quietly leave in free agency when the time comes.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:17 am
There never was a point to starting McCown….some of us already knew that, but we were chastised and labeled the MGM.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:23 am
I am an OG charter member of the MGM. Mainly because I saw right thru Freeman’s shenanigans, and could not stand for them.
With that being said, I think Lovie is playing the QB game right, Mike Glennon needs to step up further, and make Lovie name him the starter. McCown us a great teammate and backup. Glennon has another opportunity this week to show he is the man for the job.
I’m pulling for Glennon, as he works hard and busts his ass to be a good/improving pocket QB. Fire the Cannon!
October 4th, 2014 at 10:24 am
So far the contest which features Lovie bringing in vets that offer no help vs the ones that Chucky put on the field is likely :
Lovie: One
Gruden: I lost count
October 4th, 2014 at 10:38 am
Glennons play on the field over the next few weeks will determine who starts once McCown gets back. one or two good games by Glennon will not win the job if they are mixed in with one or two bad games.
Glennon has the chance now and some pretty good tools to work with and now finally some protection on the line and some better play calling.
I think it is pretty much his job at this point with McCown being the backup eventually but he is likely to be under the coaches microscope for the next few games to show the ability to make good decisions now that the line is giving him time.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:44 am
I think Lovie is smart enough to realize how clueless he would look if he names Glennon the starter and the he melts down and gets benched when Mcknown returns. Let it play out. Mcknown is not back. Let Glennon (and I am confident he will) prove himself while there is no other option. Performance will make the call, Lovie won’t need to.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:45 am
OT: The rookie QB comparison to Mike Glennon 2013
MG8: 13 games/ 247 of 416 for 2608 yds/ 59.3%/6.3 ypa
19 TDs/9 INTs/ RTG 83.9/ 42 sacks
Extrapolated 16 gms/304 of 512/ 3209 yds/59.3%/6.3 ypa
23.4 TDs/11.1 INTs/RTG 83.9/ 51.7 sacks
After four weeks 2014:
Derek Carr: 4 gms/ 84 of 133 for 734 yds/ 62.9% /5.4 ypa
3 TDs/3 INTs / RTG: 75.2 / sacked 3 / rushed 7 for 66 yds
Johnny Manziel: 0 for 1 / 0 yds/ RTG 39.6/ Basically, has yet to play.
Blake Bortles: 2 games/43 of 61 for 223 yds/ 70.5%/ 7.8 ypa
3 TDs / 4 INTs / sacked 4 / RTG: 82.4 / rushed 7 for 54 yds
Teddy Bridgewater: 2 games/ 31 of 50/ 467 yds/ 62.0%/ 9.3 ypa
0 TDs / 0 INTs/ sacked 2 / RTG: 92.7 / rushed 11 for 54 yds
And the Not so rookie for 2014:
Josh McCown: 3 gms/ 43 of 68/63.2%/420 yds/6.2 ypa
2 TDs/ 4 INTs/ RTG 65.8/ 5 sacks / 2 Rushing TDs
Extrapolated 16 gms/ 229 of 362/ RTG 65.8/ 2240 yds/ 6.2 ypa/ 9.8 ypc
10.7 TDs/ 21.3 INTs/ RTG 65.8/ 26.7 sacks/ 10.7 fumbles, 0 lost;
but 10.7 Rushing TDs!!
tickrdr
Note ypa = yards per passing attempt
Note #2 — games rounded to nearest whole number, if played signif amount.
BTW, neither EJ Manuel, nor Geno Smith have yet thrown for 19 TDs ( both at 16); but Geno Smith already has 26 INTs in 20 games.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:47 am
I imagine Lovie does’nt want to give Glennon too much confidence by being named the starter just yet, which to me does’nt make sense. Lovie obviously thinks Glennon can’t hold the job and plans to insert McCown at the coaches appropriate timing. How’s that indecision working out for your confidence boosting Lovie? We will soon find out.
October 4th, 2014 at 10:55 am
Glennon will need to play a clean game this Sunday against the saints, hopefully we can get our run game going also. Hopefully we could go into the bye 3-3 (wish full thinking) so Glennon will be named the starter. Evans (#1 receiver) will be back after the bye, and then Charles Sims will soon follow our offense will be much improved with those two rookies back healthy.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:06 am
Captain Stagger Says:
October 4th, 2014 at 10:17 am
There never was a point to starting McCown….some of us already knew that, but we were chastised and labeled the MGM.
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Couldn’t have said it any better Captain.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:15 am
I like Glennon’s attitude. He is thinking game only not “his title.” As a fan that is all I care for. Wins baby. His performance will get him the title without him being a baby. Tantrums are not need in the NFL.
Go Bucs!!!
October 4th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Even as a charter member of the MGM, there is really no good reason to name him the starter now either. If he continues to do well, then the decision will be self-evident to all. If he does poorly, then Lovie can save face by going back to McCown. But it still makes no sense to play McCown, especially if there is no hope of making the playoffs. And obviously, if there is hope, it must mean that MG8 is playing well. I still think the Bucs could and should have been 2-0 to start the season, if Glennon had been the starter from Week 1. who knows what would have happened then during Week 3?
tickrdr
October 4th, 2014 at 11:18 am
Think the point to Lovie playing coy about naming Glennon the starter is smart…He is essentially quietly challenging Glennon to step up and TAKE the starting role on the depth chart; and I for one would LOVE to see him do it. GO BUCS and leave it all on the field in New Orleans #8MG!!!!!
October 4th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Give Josh the Qb coach job but keep him on the active roster for this year just in case. He will make a good Qb coach and free Arroyo to the OC job
October 4th, 2014 at 11:30 am
This has turned into the MGM blog site.
JoeGlennonFan.com
October 4th, 2014 at 11:37 am
If McCown wasn’t injured and the team played their first three games the same way they played the second half against Pittsburgh they could be at least 3-1, and no one would be talking about Glennon. It’s fair to say McCown didn’t get any real chance the way everyone else was playing. Don’t get me wrong i like Glennon i just think there is too much being blamed on McCown.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:41 am
Architek… you gotta go with the flow, after all he is presently the starter of note. Have’nt you noticed?
October 4th, 2014 at 11:42 am
How bout DONT tell him hes the starter. Make him feel like he has to earn his keep. Obviously he already has over mccown but if he hasnt actually heard it from lovie maybe that will grow inside of him making him compete that much harder every sunday. I will have my eye on the playcalling as I always do. Last week was not only the best playcalling of the season but maybe the last three seasons. Schianos first year I liked the playcalling a little but since then has been horrible. With that being said there is still LOTS of room for improvement. Last week was JUST good enough. I wanna see this team for once go out and play four quarters like they are down 14 even when the score is 0 to 0. Tired of seeing be actually 14 0 then we start playing. Playcalling will determine a lot of whether he has success or not…
October 4th, 2014 at 11:45 am
[Joe is curious if you complain to TV or radio stations or newspapers that run paid political ads? Just a hunch, you don’t, so why single Joe out? — Joe]
October 4th, 2014 at 11:45 am
If Glennon is the man for the job he will step forward and take it. If he gets the win this week I want to see him step to the podium and proclaim this to be HIS team.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:47 am
Glennon, showing maturity at every turn.
I really hope he’s able to take that next step and become the guy. It’d be nice after almost 40 years of never really having the guy.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:48 am
Everyone knows this is Glennon job (should’ve been all along smh). Lovie is stubborn but he’s not a fool. He knows he can’t go back to McCown after that ish he was doing weeks 1-3. And Glennon takes a 0-3 team on the road to Pittsburgh where we never won before. Which was the bucs toughest game guys the two at HOME against back up qbs? @ATL(where we play every year)? Or on the road at Heinz field against big Ben?
October 4th, 2014 at 11:50 am
McCown was Lovies “sacrificial lamb” in the first three weeks.
The offense line wasnt ready by any means imaginable
The coaches were not ready
The plays were not ready
The players were not ready.
Glennon is simply lucky he didn’t have to contend with any of that.
McCown -not so lucky
As bad as things were prepared for the first two games I actually think it was amazing we weren’t blown out in both and actually had a chance for winning each.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:53 am
@billybuckaroo being ready has nothing to do with those interceptions josh threw. I don’t care how unprepared you are you just don’t make those throws
October 4th, 2014 at 11:55 am
Architek Says:
October 4th, 2014 at 11:30 am
This has turned into the MGM blog site.
JoeGlennonFan.com
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2013-2014
JF5: 0-3
JM12: 0-3
MG8: 5-9
And fully five of those losses in 2013 came against the TOP FOUR defenses of the year. Seattle 13-3, SF 12-4, Car 12-4 twice, and NO 11-5.
tickrdr
October 4th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
@Wesley
You have to be kidding me! McClown had his chances and made boneheaded plays in every game! He was the reason we lost both games. could have been 2-0.
Glennon instantly made the offense better and give this team some life. McClown has to remain a back up and help Glennon any way he can.
CANT WAIT TILL TOMORROW! GO BUCS!!!
#MGM
October 4th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
@billy buckaroo, well put i completely agree.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
@Wesley If you believe that, then you should be screaming for a new HC….everthing in that post points to incompetent HC…I’m not saying that’s the case, but the poster is
October 4th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
If the Bucs win tomorrow and Glennon plays as big of a roll as he did last week. Then McClown can hang up his cleats for the season. 5 million dollars…WOW!
In wish I was a Glazer and not be bothered by 10 million dollars of my money being pissed away.
If I lose a 10 or 20 dollar bill. It takes me weeks to get over it.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
buccanAy …I concur 100%. That’s why I was in here bitching about Lovie for the first 3 weeks. It does fall on the coach and it did show. I don’t care what ANY of you say to counter my point.
This team was unprepared to play football for the first 3 weeks and that’s on Lovie Smith no matter how you want to slice it.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
True fans stick with there teams no matter what.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
“End the tampa bay buccaneer experiment. There is no point.”
exactly! draft a real qb.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
“This team was unprepared to play football for the first 3 weeks and that’s on Lovie Smith no matter how you want to slice it.”
i agree. but, i am sure tedford’s medical issues complicated things. hopefully, arroyo is fully in charge of the offense without tedford/lovie breathing down his neck. tough, though, being thrown into the fire.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
Not sure what you want him to say Joe? At the end of the day, his performance each game while McCown is on the bench is all that really matters. The only way he changes anybodys mind about his ability will be decided by how he prepares and plays each game. Just like in any profession, you can’t worry about things you can’t control to much. Do your best with what you have, and everything else will work itself out in the end.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
I stumbled onto some football website last night. It was late and I didn’t save it so I forgot where the hell I was even at. BUT, I was reading an article about how Glennon should be the starter regardless.
At the end of the article the writer said something to the effect that if the Bucs go 1-5 or 1-6 and McCown gets put back in there, then he’s almost positive the Bucs are tanking it for Winston or Mariota.
The reason being is that Glennon is basically playing to show what he’s made of and is going to go all out. They can’t have that happening if they are trying to tank the season.
Now that’s his theory, but it did get me wondering. I think he’s right.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
Not sure how this is a “weak answer”… this is exactly what you are suppose to do. Focus on the next game.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
@Couch…you know what’s even more weak?
That damned bs of the 4th best QB in the division will never win the division.
I still see people type that and shake my head every single time. I actually want to pull my hair when I see it and I’m bald.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Guess what happens if the Bucs draft a QB in the first round this draft?
The Bucs will STILL have the 4th best QB in the division…and probably will for awhile until and IF the new rookie QB pans out.
People just expect INSTANT success from a 1st round QB. It rarely happens.
Wilson and Kap are the exceptions. Most times it takes QB’s a few years under their belt to really get going.
So if the Bucs draft a QB in the first round this year. I hope all those people that continue with that 4th best nonsense realize it might take 2-3 years for the new guy. Leaving the Bucs with STILL the 4th best QB in the South.
Nonsense I tell ya. Nonsense.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm
I don’t think it’s a weak answer. It’s dealing with reality, one week at a time. Whenever guys lose focus on the current opponent, start looking down the road, it ends up as a distraction and leads to losing. Joe is all about distraction. Rather have a juicy quote, a controversy, something to sensationalize than to acknowledge that Glennon’s head is in exactly the right place. I would say, given the situation, Glennon gave a strong answer. He gave the answer that reflects a winner’s mentality.
Also, as to the issue of Lovie naming Glennon the starter… Why on earth would he do that publicly at this point? Just to appease the media and the fans? Why give future opponents any more information than is required? Also, why not let Glennon go out and prove it again? Lovie gains nothing at this point by declaring Glennon the starter. Once McCown’s thumb is healed up, then this becomes an interesting question.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
Lovin the Glennon talk. He’s a sharp kid. Let’s not forget he completed a Masters and Bachelors degree while being a starting QB for a decent college team. Imagine what he can accomplish mentally during the week in preparation and during the game. He has already shown a knack for being secure with the ball. He’s got a nice cannon for an arm. He needs reps and backing by his coaches to get better. He also needs trust in games to open it up.
And for crying out loud, can we get our FB in to start bull dozing holes for Martin. He always does better with a good lead blocker.
FYI… ’87, don’t forget Kap and Wilson weren’t even first round picks.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
Because if Glennon ends up sucking he can always go back to McCown. If he says Glennon is the guy going forward then he can’t go back. It also plays with the secrecy that Lovie likes to use. If you don’t know who is the starter then you don’t know who to plan for.
There really is no reason to announce that Glennon is the guy the rest of the season. Glennon needs to feel like he needs to earn the spot, that it’s not just gifted to him. It will make him work harder and fight to earn the job. You’ve always said that giving a guy a job is bad for the team. So why do you want Lovie to just give the job to Glennon? Make him earn it. 1 game is a small sample size. Heck mccowns 2 1/2 games are a small sample size too. Let the players fight for it. If Glennon wins the next 3 games you bet he will be the starter going forward. Whether Lovie announces it at that point or not is his choice. All it will do is give guys like you who need to know everything a little piece of mind.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:14 pm
You guys are right to call him the cannon, he has good power and low accuracy. Fitting name.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
It wasn’t a weak answer it was common sense. Only mgm and reporters are going to keep talking about the Steelers game, what else could he say in his situation because as for now it is a one game at a time thing because he’s not the starter officially yet. I’m sure he knows he should be
October 4th, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Cannon derives from Jason Licht saying “he’s got a cannon”.
October 4th, 2014 at 3:38 pm
TruBuc…if the Bucs lose the next 2 games the season is dead and over, there will be no need to go back to McCown. It almost virtually over now. More time and experience is what the kid needs. Also it gives everyone, you, me, Lovie and every one else a really good look at the kid and how or if he as improved or not.
October 4th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
The one point that I do not see anyone talk about is that we never really develop quarterbacks here in Tampa. I do not see any reason why Glennon can’t be the guy if we give him time, continue to build around him, and stability in system and coaches. It doesn’t really matter who the quarterback is, if he can’t develop and use his strengths he will fail.
October 4th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Wait a minute!!!!!
Couch –
You can’t say that if you draft a qb in the 1st round that you will continue to struggle.
– Luck/ 11-5 with a weak roster and threw for over 4300 yards as a rookie
– Wilson/ as a rookie behind a growing team passed for 3100
– Dalton/ as a rookie on a building team (in the AFC North) passed for 3300 20 TDs and 13 INTs enroute to a playoff birth
I can keep going but drafting a quarterback in the first that the organization is committed to seeing succeed and building around can have success.
So the patience things and rushing etc is a moot point. The real point is Glennon deserves to start for this team this year and if they still can’t win then you draft a qb and make sure he is what we want and go all in on him and watch him develop. There is no immediate expectation but you know you have someone special when they flash ‘IT’ and make plays and throws that make you shake your head or that young qb has that moment when he’s not intimidated and goes toe to toe with Cam or Brees like Wilson or Luck!
You guys should try watching football outside the Bucs when you have the opportunity there are some really yoing talented and
October 4th, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Promising young qbs doing great things on flawed teams!
October 4th, 2014 at 4:44 pm
I think you mean Buc87, i didnt say anything about QBs.
October 4th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
Sorry –
I guess that was sent to 1987, I just read the statement about correlating young qb with losing and that’s not always the case.
October 4th, 2014 at 6:02 pm
87, glennon can learn and still be he future while on the bench. I’m a firm believer in letting young Qbs hold the clipboard. They can work on mechanics and tighten up the mental aspects of the game. Understand defenses and knowing what you’re looking at. Doing all that plus preparing for game day is tough for anyone. Let the guy master the mental aspects of the game, and clean up his mechanics, foot work, etc. And next season he can be the Qb to start the year while a rookie is learning under him.
This is of course if he struggles. If he doesn’t struggle Then he might be ready and Wont need the extra bench time. But if he starts to show weakness then take him out and give him time to clean up some stuff. Develop your qb. Don’t let him just go out and wing it. Thats how bad tendencies happen. Nothing worse than playing your qb before he is ready.
Glennon in a small sample size looks better than last season. He might have grown a lot. But I’m not ruling out the possibility that he isn’t ready to start games.
If the season is a loss after 2 more losses then why make a bad season worse by letting some crap 2nd year qb stink up the joint. Play whoever gives you the best chance to win. You might want to have a good draft position, but the coaches and players want to win. I’d rather see a team trying to win than tanking just let the young qb get reps. I this I’m not saying mc own is a better qb, but if the coaches make that move then I’m not going to doubt them. Play whoever gives you the best shot to win. Whether that’s glennon or mccown or Kafka.
October 4th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
More playing time isn’t the cure all for a qb. They need to learn the game before they play it. Qb isn’t a position you can just plug and play. Many have used that logic with their young qbs and it flat out didn’t work.
Steve young was a hot mess playing for Tampa, but learning under the best on the game and perfecting his own game turned him into a hall of famer. Brady didn’t start his first season, he learn under Bledsoe for a Year. Rodgers took what was it 3 or 4 years under favre?
Glennon isn’t the most talented of guys, if he was he would have been drafted higher. He needed/s work, let him develop.
October 4th, 2014 at 6:20 pm
“If the season is a loss after 2 more losses then why make a bad season worse by letting some crap 2nd year qb stink up the joint. Play whoever gives you the best chance to win.”
It’s called the NFL Draft and draft position. At that point I’m so used to losing I don’t really care anymore. Lose so more. The draft is thick with QB’s this year and it’s about time this team got one. Lose some more.
October 4th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
And another thing there have been plenty of young QB’s thrown into the fire. Some say it’s the best way to learn. Clearly your not one of them and I am.
October 4th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Architek says:
“The real point is Glennon deserves to start for this team this year and if they still can’t win then you draft a qb”
That’s not the case if the QB is not the reason for the losing. If he still puts up decent numbers and our D continues to get gashed through the air all season long. That’s not Glennon’s fault.
Yes… I do know the QB is the leader of the team, but if your D can’t stop anyone….from scoring…well….well…
October 4th, 2014 at 6:28 pm
The proof is in the pudding. Glennon finally brought the Buc’s from behind for a win. We will see if that is just a fluke, or if with new confidence from doing so he has finally turned the corner. If the OL continues to improve and stops sacks, Glennon’s glaring lack of escapability will be moot, too.
October 4th, 2014 at 7:56 pm
Yes FINALLY he actually was the reason we won but sacks are apart of the game you could have the best line in the league and schemes can still get defenses a sack. Since clearly teams have stopped investing so much in lineman because quarterbacks have become more mobile, he’ll never be mobile but perhaps he can learn to make up for his turtle like speed with better pocket presence and stop taking 20 yard snaps
October 4th, 2014 at 11:32 pm
see 87, that’s the difference between me and you. You worry about losing and the draft. And I care about winning, no matter the circumstance. I’d rather watch us win a game that loses us the first overall pick than watch us lose the game.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:30 am
Trubucfan22 …nope wrong again. I was just like you up until after last season.
I knew that the more they won the less of a draft pick they got, but I didn’t care I wanted wins anyway.
That’s all changed for me now as I have finally realized that all that matters IS the playoffs. Moral victories are useless.
Then again if our team goes on a flurry of wins towards the end of the season it gives them something to build on for next season, but it’s not a guarantee that they will be any better that next season. So I’ve changed my stance on the whole win everything you can even though your not making the playoffs thingy.
If your out of the hunt, prepare for the draft.
October 5th, 2014 at 4:28 am
@tickdr 4065 yards 27 td 17 int 7.3 ypa. We cut that for yor boy #8.
October 5th, 2014 at 5:04 am
Glennon is a back-up QB, regardless of how this season shakes out. The Bucs should draft a QB anyway, if Glennon is so much better than McCown than he would have beaten him out in the offseason or at least the 2nd preseason game. I don’t want a QB that needs the D to be spectacular every game, the o-line to be great, all receivers to be moss and T.O., etc.. That won’t beat this division consistently or beat the 49ers, hawks, broncos, bears, packers, chargers, chiefs, giants, cowboys, cardinals, etc.. you’ll just be blameing the coach and team for everything that’s wrong while going 8-8 every season.
October 5th, 2014 at 9:28 am
@ Newbucsfan said
” if Glennon is so much better than McCown than he would have beaten him out in the offseason or at least the 2nd preseason game.”
Before you repeat it again, go back into the JBF archives and look up WHY McCown was the starter. Apparently you are REALLY new to the Bucs and JBF. And that’s OK. Always glad to have another fan for the fire (debate).
” I don’t want a QB that needs the D to be spectacular every game, the o-line to be great, all receivers to be moss and T.O., etc.. ”
The Bucs WON a Super Bowl under that scenario and I’d take it again if that’s the way the team was built. That may have also been before you were a Buc fan.