“I Think He Just Calmed Down”

September 11th, 2014

The Buccaneers’ veteran leader, the elder statesman, very much played like a high school sophomore for much of last Sunday.

And it seems Bucs coaches assessed Josh McCown as a guy who was feeling pressure — from within.

Last week’s playcaller, quarterbacks coach Marcus Arroyo, talked to media today at One Buc Palace and said the Bucs’ late game surge was a byproduct of McCown relaxing.

“I think he just calmed down and played within the plan, you know, played within the scheme,” Arroyo said. “I think early on trying to press a little bit, play outside the play. Like we like to say, ‘Play the play.’ And with that is running around trying to make a throw when you’re under duress.

“He proved in those seven minutes and that 19-play stretch [to close the game] that we can move the ball and was effective in that regard.”

Damn, wouldn’t that be great if McCown was having a nervous breakdown during the first three quarters against Carolina, and the fourth quarter was the real Josh McCown. The Bucs would be on their way to several victories.

82 Responses to ““I Think He Just Calmed Down””


    I certainly am glad after 13 years in the league he finally got the jitters out of his system in the fourth quarter.

  2. Buc1987 Says:

    “And it seems Bucs coaches assessed Josh McCown as a guy who was feeling pressure — from within.”

    All I had to do was read this part and roll my eyes….good job Joe.

  3. RastaMon Says:

    McClown exposed… and Lovie exposed for nepotism…what a gawd awful staff…Lovie , “The Empty Suit”, surrounded by Yes Men….

  4. robert9 Says:

    what the F$%K is he talking about he calmed down???

    did you see him on the sideline slumped over with his head in his hands about to cry like a baby.

    calmed down my a$$…I need to calm down after hearing this BS excuse.

    The Defense, no matter what formation they were in, softened up as any team would with that kind of lead.

    what a bunch of BS. I want accountability. I want to hear them screaming from the roof tops. WE SUCKED. I don’t want to hear about what their gona do. just friggin do it. stop talking, cause they sucked out loud.

  5. OB Says:


    Do we have a staff head shrinker? If so, maybe some calming meds are in order because at his age, he might hurt himself.

    Next he will probably hit a bird in the air with what would have been the winning throw.

  6. RastaMon Says:

    “Next he will probably hit a bird in the air with what would have been the winning throw.”……BWahahaahahaahahahahaha…thanks for the laugh

  7. Mr. Mudge Says:

    robert9 Says:
    September 11th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    what the F$%K… blah blah blah [more complaining and whining]…. sucked out loud.

    diaper-filling recreational whining

  8. Mathius Says:

    That is a ridicules excuse, that a vet was over excited and popped all over himself. What will the excuse be if McCown repeats? The o-line, the person calling the plays, or the fact it was a packed house to see Derrick.

    Have McCown watch some Glennon video to learn how not to throw a pick.

  9. Mr. Mudge Says:

    I like the O2 graphic.

  10. Buc1987 Says:

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    Is that a siren I just heard? Yep.

    Sheriff SMudge is in the house.

    Shame on these fans …huh, Mudge?

  11. Mr. Mudge Says:

    Mathius Says:
    September 11th, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    That is a ridicules excuse, … blah blah blah [crying]… throw a pick.

    a) recreational complaining
    b) It’s spelled “ridiculous”

  12. Buc1987 Says:

    “Have McCown watch some Glennon video to learn how not to throw a pick.”

    Mathius…ha ha ha ding ding we have a winner.

  13. Bobby Says:

    Yeah…well if he plays like that again the graphic will read 0-2

  14. Buc1987 Says:

    Grammar and fan police? Duo duty!

  15. DB55 Says:


    You should listen to Lovies press conf from yesterday. I think that was the message he was trying to convey.

  16. Brian D. Says:

    Damn. All these fans who just want to come around and bitch on all the sites. You guys are the ones that suck. You probably sucked on Sunday too…when you were either flipping to a different game to check your fantasy squad or booing your team on opening day. This fan base gets sorrier and sorrier. You’ll boo McCown. You booed Freeman. You booed Glennon and you’ll boo him again. There’s a trend here…and it’s not bad quarterback play. It’s bad fans who will always bitch and boo about something and never realize that it doesn’t help anything.

  17. tnew Says:

    After watching Glennon consoling him, it makes me wonder, who was calming who. Also, I wonder who is more like the veteran and who is more like the rookie.

  18. nate Says:

    Brian what u smokin? People boo at mccown because he was playing like a high school quarterback.. in his press conference he was like im soo much smarter now…. bullcrap!

  19. lightningbuc Says:

    Freeman was booed and now he’s not here.

    Schiano was booed and now he’s not here.

    Don’t tell me paying customers booing doesn’t help – it helps get rid of those that are unwanted. I doubt the Bucs are going to offer me a refund for my tickets when the team sucks, so I’ll boo if I damn well please. How else do the Bucs know their customers aren’t happy?

  20. BUCTROOPER Says:

    I resent the implication, Brian.

    How dare you chastise someone for booing the product that they saw on the field? Let me ask you, was what you were looking at worthy of applause?

  21. RastaMon Says:


  22. tampamac Says:

    The man hasn’t been an opening day starter in how long? Of course he had some nerves going! I’m not excusing his play, but it was game 1. Super Bowl MVP’s Tom B.rady and Eli Manning didn;t look all world either and their fans aren’t about to jump in the Chesapeake or Hudson. I’m willing to at least give him a few games to see who the real McCown is.

  23. robert9 Says:

    lol. nice ones 87

    smudge mark / $hit stain…whatever her name is coming in here to supervise.

  24. Mr. Mudge Says:

    ^^ clever

  25. Brian D. Says:

    Booing and applauding aren’t your only options. Keeping your trap shut is another one. I’m a season ticket holder…paid for my damn tickets too. It’s game 1! Booing in game one will only add to the pressure and make them play worse. Every damn quarterback in the league has thrown dumbfounding interceptions like those. Stupid mistakes are easily fixed. Would you rather see him throwing balls in the dirt like Glennon does? Showing a lack of talent and accuracy? I’m not suggesting that you don’t have the right to boo…I’m suggesting that if you’re trying to boo a player out of the stadium in his first game then you’re a coward and a jackass. Give it time. Three guys played well…don’t take it all out on the quarterback.

  26. Brian D. Says:

    The people trying to boo our quarterback/leader/team captain off the field in Week 1 are probably the same idiots who won’t bother wasting their breath to make some noise for our defense. Stay home with the rest of the whiners if you don’t like it.

  27. RastaMon Says:

    The interceptions were only the lowest of the LOW’s…O/D coud not execute ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!colassal FAILURE……

  28. chickster Says:

    Good job Brian everyone needs to calm down

  29. robert9 Says:

    wow a lot of people who like to waste their Sundays on here. I for one value my time…especially weekends.

  30. Mr. Mudge Says:

    ^^ You apparently don’t value your weekday time though, because you spend a bunch of it complaining about Sunday.

  31. Brian D. Says:

    Seriously I’m just saying…this guy was voted a team captain…handed the reigns…you’re either with him for now or your against us. Booing hurts the confidence of the team. The whole team. Nobody wants to hear that shit. It’s embarrassing to have to hear that in Week 1 of a new regime. I understood booing Freeman eventually…those failures were his fault because he didn’t put in the work and he didn’t care anymore. McCown has given everything this offseason…he has worked his ass off to make this team a winner. Give the guy more time than one week.

  32. Hawk Says:

    Let’s see the ‘leadership’ of McCown before we call for his head. ANY QB can have a bad game (or in this case, terrible). The angle that the coaches are throwing (McCown ‘relaxed’) might be true, but it is just as possible that the Panther’s defense ‘relaxed’.
    A true leader will brush himself off, take responsibility, and be better the next time. The Rams should give him an opportunity to show that this game was an aberration. I am not a big fan of McCown, although I thought he was the best ‘fit’ for the Bucs, among the veteran free agents. My problem with McCown doesn’t go back any farther than last season. McCown ‘looked’ good, but what kind of ‘talent’ was McCown up against.
    The five games that McCown started, were against teams with a MAXIMUM of eight wins (out of 16 games) for the season. Two of those teams had top 15 defenses, and the other three were between #25 and #32 (and he LOST to the team with the 32nd ranked defense). With that level of competition, it’s a wonder McCown didn’t win all five games.
    All that being said, I’m not ready to throw McCown out. It was ONE game, and against a very good defense. Let us see how McCown rebounds this week.
    BTW, I am one of those who believe that Glennon has the potential to be an outstanding QB… but not today. He never got the opportunity to be coached and/or mentored properly. *I* would like to see him watch and learn for as long as possible.
    I said, before the season started, that an 8-8 season would be enough, for me, to believe that Lovie made a lot of good decisions, in his first year. There are more than enough games left to make (or break) that mark.

  33. JonBucFan Says:

    I don’t blame the defense that much cus they were on the field for practically the entire game. McCown and the offense I think were only on the field for 7 or 8 minutes total in the entire game. That is just pitiful.

  34. lightningbuc Says:

    Or, on the other hand, if you don’t like hearing booing, then YOU could stay home!

  35. nate Says:

    Brian your the guy that thinks all kids should get a trophy when they play a sport.. maybe you are right… I dont agree.. there grown men if they cant handle booing dont play football…..I listen to his press conferencemccown saying hes so much better..well show me all I saw was garbage and im the laughing stock oof all my friends because I beleive this team was going to be good.. this team is garbage…. no pass rush no oline play qb worse then backup qbs.. stadium is old tvs suck there…no jumbo tron.. I cant believe im saying this but jacksonville is more fun now!

  36. Buc'n Enough Says:

    Hey Brian,

    I have been a season ticket holder since day1 ( that’s since 1976 )…I have paid my dues over the years buying 4 season tickets every year, I sat through Ray Perkins, Leeman Bennett, Williamson, RAH, Shiano and every other fluke thing this organization has tossed at me over the years…I have spent a lot of HARD earned money on those tix.. When they parade a DUD like McClown out there and tell me he is best option we have, I have a right to boo as I please…I have earned it…

    This is the worst excuse I have ever heard for a 13 year vet at QB…

    Brian…Put a cheerleader dress on next time the swashbucklers are having try outs…Then you can cheer all you want

  37. Brian D. Says:


    When you bought your ticket did it say anything about guaranteed victory on it? Did the Bucs say that Peyton Manning was starting at quarterback this season? Did they deceive you?

    There is no guarantees. I HATE LOSING. That feeling still has not worn off and it won’t until I walk out of Ray Jay with my head held high on Sunday chanting “TAAMMMMPPPPAAAA!!!!”…all I’m saying is you gotta give them more than one game. They played a dominant defense…when your defense plays like theirs did, you’re gonna win most games. We ended up losing by 6 points. The sky has not fallen. Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions in his rookie year. Give McCown more than three quarters to earn your trust.

  38. RastaMon Says:

    If the defense was doing their jobs !…they wouldn’t have been on the field that much….after all the defense is the strenght of the TEAM

  39. JonBucFan Says:

    True that Rasta. If they gotten the ball back to the offense more often we would of had a better chance. Seems like both sides of the ball have equal share of the blame here.

  40. BUCTROOPER Says:

    You’re right Brian. I’m sorry I disagree with you.

    You know what? So we really don’t hurt their feelings maybe we shouldn’t keep score? After all, that’s what we’re doing with our little namby-pamby kids nowadays. And if the Bucs don’t go to the Super Bowl I’m sure we can dole out a bunch of participation trophies to them so they really feel better about themselves.

  41. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    I am not buying the ” he just needed to calm down” excuse. this is old man mcCown we are talking about, not the Incredible Hulk!

  42. Brian D. Says:

    If any of you can tell me what you think booing does to help this team, feel free. You’ve done nothing to back up your stance.

    I’m telling you that booing will only hurt this team more…so I have to question your true fanhood if you’re actions are hurting the team.

    I am not the guy who thinks every kid should get a trophy…I AM NOT the guy who watches our team lose and is still pounding my chest afterward claiming “It doesn’t matter, the Bucs are still the best”

    We sucked. McCown sucked. Martin sucked. Jackson, Rainey, Dotson, Dietrich-Smith, Adrian Clayborn, Michael Johnson, Mike Jenkins, Dashon Goldson…they all sucked. So why don’t you boo when our defense doesn’t get pressure? Why didn’t you boo when Goldson dropped the game winning interception? Why aren’t you on here calling for Bobby Rainey’s head? It was a team loss. If you’re going to give the rest of the guys another shot to win you over, then McCown deserves it too.

    If you want to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars to sit in the stands and be a grumpy old man…good for you. You can do that at home for free.

  43. biff barker Says:

    Calmness will prevail when the fourth quarter McCown shows up in the first quarter on Sunday.

  44. lightningbuc Says:

    When they bench McCown, who I never wanted here in the first place, and put Glennon in, then my booing will have helped and that will also help the team, cuz McCown sucks – he always has, except for 5 games. There’s your answer.

    I would never boo someone earning $7.50 an hour. But when you’re pulling down $5 million a year and are playing in a stadium financed by Tampa tax payers, I expect the QB to have some semblance of an idea of what’s going on. If not, I’m booin’ his ass.

  45. DWE Says:

    no one is going to like Rob or Brian

  46. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Booooo! Booooooooo!

  47. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    “lightningbuc Says:
    September 11th, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    When they bench McCown, who I never wanted here in the first place…”

    Who gives a flying sh-t what you wanted or didn’t want?

  48. joe$sucsfan Says:

    Thank You Joe for moving out of GOOBERVILLE

  49. robert9 Says:

    brian I don’t live in tampa, but the only reason I have the dish is for the games, so there is an investment….but it’s not about the money. it’s about the time. the time I could have been working on a project, or playing with the kids or wife. I value those 3 hours, and I don’t set it aside to watch some piss poor excuse for a game. and for those that say the panthers d was smothering. wake up man. mcclown was just bad awful. he cost us the game and everything spiraled out of control from there. they were booing him, and i would have been as well knowing Glennon is quietly waiting and ready. i don’t buy the nothin of giving a QB a few games to tank the season, hell, if the game is out of control in the 3rd qtr as it was mcclown should have been yanked. thats just my opinion as a Glennon supporter.

  50. bucrightoff Says:

    Brian D seriously underestimates how embarassing losing to Derek Anderson is. Only losing to Freeman coming back would be more humiliating. And remember, Derek Anderson didn’t just beat the Bucs, he carved them up with one of the 5 best QB performances on Sunday. Forgive people for being down, but it was an utterly pathetic loss.

  51. lightningbuc Says:


    Michael Sam called – he needs you to put some more lotion on his back like you’ve been doing!

  52. robert9 Says:

    the defense was doing their job until mccown turned it over.

    there’s an element of fatigue involved. they held, like the bucs of old, but then had to march right back out on the field. i don’t know the numbers, but they were on the field the majority of the game and in large part to mcclown.

  53. greg Says:

    We played like crap for 3 quarters, and we still came within one play (Goldon dropping that pick) of winning the game. We need to give lovie and company a few games before we start complaing and running all of them out of town.

  54. d-money Says:

    Boing someone for bad play is one thing but there are people on this site that actively root against players on the team just so that they can be proven right.

    These people would rather see the team lose than admit that they are wrong about a player. And although they act like they are angry when the Bucs lose it actually makes them happy to tell everyone how right they were about a player all along.

  55. Capt.Tim,Back from Davie Jones's Locker Says:

    Robert9- at least you are consistent- always a lil Pu*+y.

    Some of the rest of you are like crying Babies. Am
    Makes me sick that you are allowed to call yourself a fans, or me.
    You are neither.
    Shut up with your pathetic sniveling.
    If you are that miserable, then take your Midol, and go watch soap operas and Soccer- like the rest of the women and She-Males!

    Tom Brady was nervous, and choked this weekend. So did Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, And several others
    It’s week one, you damn idiots.
    Plus, what did you expect?? This team has been rebuilt to the point of being an expansion team!!!
    And we still were in the game, with seconds to go.
    Against the NFC south champion!!!!
    If you thought we were gonna beat them, our first game itch new coaches, schemes,and players- then you can add stupid to your already long list of crybaby adjectives!!

    Grow up. To be able to win, in the last minutes- against the top ranked defense of Carolina- was a GREAT DAMN first game.

    To those of you to stupid to see that- the skyway jumper station is calling your name
    Some of you are a damn embarrassment

  56. robert9 Says:

    ^^ attention. big man on the internet. i’ve never stooped so low as to call someone that.

    I don’t talk that kind of $hit to people on the web or to their faces. I knock them the f@%k out.

    carry on.

  57. lightningbuc Says:

    The Bucs came close – YEAH!

    The Bucs came close against the NFC South champion (from last year, with a backup QB) – YEAH!

    It takes time to win – YEAH! We’ll wait – 1 year, 10 years, 30 years? Who cares – I’m such a great Bucs fan I’ll just prepay the next 20 years on my tickets because I know it will happen one of these years that you tell us it will. I’m a sheep.

    Sabby Piscitelli was a great Buc. I never want to say anything bad about my beloved Bucs. I’m a true fan. Just like winning, “it takes time” to learn how to tackle those guys that were running past him. If only he’d been give a little more time, cuz, you know, “it takes time”.

    And don’t even get me started on JFro. He was wonderful – if only he’d been given a bit more time.

    It feels good to be a “true fan” – where the rose colored glasses are always on.

  58. Soggy Says:


  59. bucrightoff Says:

    True fans criticize their team. True fans acknowledge the flaws in their team. True fans refuse to accept mediocrity.

    Homers never criticize their team. Homers believe their team to be flawless and that every loss is due to some force beyond the team’s control (refs, weather etc…). Homers constantly accept mediocrity.

  60. OAR Says:

    True fans come with three speeds, reverse and a remote control!……….Just say no to pull strings!

  61. Soggy Says:

    @bucrightoff, Just noticed your name, Good one, I think it’s funny..

  62. crayhopper Says:

    Last year he was just asked to keep seat warm for the starter. This year he was asked to be the savior. A lot more pressure. In the next couple of games we will see whether he thrives under pressure or melts. Won’t take long to figure it out.

  63. DB55 Says:

    There’s being a homer and then there’s this “was a GREAT DAMN first game.” That post comes straight from 1bp.

    “Plus, what did we expect??” Well I can tell you that 52/56 people at sbnation chose the bucs to win on Sunday and 70% of nfl “experts” on bleacher report expected the bucs to win.

    I think the hostility is more due to the poor play of josh meltdown and MJ than anything else. McCown is NOT a rookie so comparing him to Peyton in his rookie year is stupid. All off season all we heard was how much better McCown is than Glennon but he didn’t show that. Anytime you throw the ball as poorly as McCown did you will get booed. You damn sure aren’t going to be cheered for throwing interceptions. And not just regular int but as joe said high school sophomore interceptions.

    That was a pathetic showing and if choose not to see that then you are in denial.

  64. Brian Says:

    McCown did not lose to Derek Anderson. The defense lost to Derek Anderson. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t their defense take the ball away from Our offense exactly as many times as “pathetic old Derek Anderson” shredded our defense for a nice touchdown pass? Didn’t Lavonte David miss 5 tackles? Wasn’t our defense blown off the ball in the running game and a step too late on 90% of the pass plays? Was it just me or was Gerald McCoy the only guy who got close enough to spit on Anderson? That was a team loss. I realize the INTs were ugly…but a turnover is a turnover regardless of what it looks like. I’ll take my “rose-colored glasses” all day over the shit-smeared glasses that most of you are wearing.

  65. Brian Says:


    McCown didn’t throw the ball poorly! That’s where your shit-smeared glasses are clouding your vision. He made two awful decisions that turned the ball over. Other than that he threw the ball accurately all day. If anybody can seriously say that McCown has not shown far greater, more consistent accuracy in his time under center than what we’ve seen from Glennon, then they’re nothing but a Mike Glennon monster/Josh McCown hater.

  66. Bobby Says:


    Look, I’m normally the eternal optimist but what McCown put on the field for the first three quarters was just putrid. It wasn’t that he made mistakes it was how bad he looked while he made them. Just like he was lost, like a rookie QB who had no idea how to handle the situation. When this comes from a guy who was voted captain, from a guy who is a seasoned vet, it scares the crap out of you as a fan. It gives you that old “Oh no…here we go again” vibe. Now he may turn it around, I sure hope he does. I’d love for him to become a 100+ QB rating every week with a 2 or 3 to one TD to pick ratio but am I optimistic about that? No, I’m not. What I saw from him on Sunday shook me to the core. Totally reckless at times. We’ll see as the weeks go on but he showed me nothing to believe in last week.

  67. Mr. Mudge Says:

    Let’s just say we can still have some hope that McCown can play some good football as the season goes on, but it’s clear they need to draft a QB next year, and probably a few DEs. By the time we reach the end of the year, OL might be less of a worry than DL, if what we’ve seen so far is any indication. I mean, at least the OL has an excuse with the complete overhaul and all. Wouldn’t that be ironic.

  68. Buc1987 Says:

    “Im sorry guys I just can’t be a Bucs fan any longer the writing is on the wall for me and I’m done with it all. I’m sick and tired of all the losing and I give up. I’m no longer a Bucs fan. So long.”— Signed Capt Tim 2013

    Well it wasn’t those exact words, but that was how you put it Tim. Actually I thought you were acting like a whiny b**ch at the time.

    Did you forget about all that Tim?

  69. Buc1987 Says:

    Mr. Mudge…..the word “hope” is a prerequisite to becoming a Bucs fan.

    How sad, but true that is.

    Every year I say that word more than any other word when regarding this team.

  70. Capt.Tim,Back from Davie Jones's Locker Says:

    buc1987- damn it! Lol
    That was after they released Revis
    I was being a whinny lil Bitch.
    I managed to stay away for a month.
    During which time they signed all pro CB Verner, DE Johnson, and a great many other moves.

    That’s my point!(sorta). If you are that pissed- leave!
    Don’t stay here and whine every post.

  71. Buc1987 Says:


  72. Buc1987 Says:

    Then again Tim prior to all of that we were all subjected to the constant Schiano bashing rants that you put on, on a daily basis.

    Does it sound familiar? Did you stay away then?

    Hell the mere mention of the word Schiano and you jumped. LOL

    Just saying man. They look be doing the same thing you did every day on here.

  73. Architek Says:

    Lightningbuc Says –
    “September 11th, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Michael Sam called – he needs you to put some more lotion on his back like you’ve been doing!”

    Ummm okay. 😉

  74. Architek Says:

    It’s not everyone but like I said 1987 people are jaded man period. I don’t want to make excuses for fair weather fans but some of it is expected.

    I was tempted to take a heiatis during the Freeman free fall but I just love this damn team and I feel like Ray Rice is the Bucs and I am the Bucs fiancé – I keep coming back!

    No pun to anyone but I feel emotionally abused sometimes with the Bucs! LOL

  75. Buc1987 Says:

    Architek …I know what you mean man. They torture me sometimes (most of the time) but I keep coming back for more.

  76. DB55 Says:

    @ Brian
    “Brian Says:
    September 11th, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    McCown didn’t throw the ball poorly! That’s where your shit-smeared glasses are clouding your vision. He made two awful decisions that turned the ball over. Other than that he threw the ball accurately all day.”

    And here are the facts, not my opinion.


    Want more? Ok


    “He completed only 3 of 8 passes for 36 yards in the first half. Things didn’t get any better in the second half. He bobbled a snap in the third quarter, recovered but only to throw an interception to Roman Harper. He also lost a fumble in the third quarter.” ” He was sacked three times and finished with a 71.5 passer rating.”

  77. DB55 Says:


    You made me watch the game again. I’m sure you can too. Go to 2:03 in the second qrt. That’s how long it took the boo birds to come out after 3 aweful pass attempts to Vjax.

    Watch the game film!!!

  78. Gus Says:

    I am actually willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. his is the first time he has ever been “the man” on a team. He has always been “the backup” this was his first time in the spot light and in the lime light. It’s only natural for him to have some jitters.

  79. Buc1987 Says:

    Jitters? Ugh!

  80. Capt.Tim,Back from Davie Jones's Locker Says:

    Alright, alright- I admit it! I’ve spent my far share of time, being a whinny lil bitch- here just like some of you are doing.

    Buuut- all I’m saying, is it’s way to early for that with this regime.
    History is on Lovies side.

    I expressed my doubts about Schiano- but gave him one season.

    Alright- I was a bit excessive( as I’m prone too be).
    Thanks Buc1987 for reminding me
    But can we at least give these guys 6 games? If you give them 10, and we still suck- I’ll happily join you in the fed up fan post.

    But on the off chance that Lovie is the right man- let’s not run him off after one game!

  81. bob in valrico Says:

    my take is Carolina made us one dimensional by stopping the run. Mccown obviously tried to do too much and made very bad decisions. doug martin ran
    9 times for 9 yards total yards.rainey 4 for 12 yards. They both dropped passes .Mccown had more rushing yards than both combined. sure o line is an
    issue, but I think doug martin has to step up break a tackle, bounce outside, and make something happen.I also watched both Moreno, and lynch appear
    to be corralled behind line and they refused to be stopped and they made plays because of their determination.

  82. Hawk Says:

    @ Capt.Tim,Back from Davie Jones’s Locker

    6 games?! 10 games?! *I* am willing to wait until the end of the season before STARTING to make a judgement (unless the Bucs go 0-16). ONE season is not enough for a coach to have his players and system running. Some of the assistant coaches, that Lovie wanted, may not have been available this last off-season. There is not doubt that Lovie didn’t get (FA/draft) all of the players he wanted.
    Lovie may not have been *my* first (or second) choice, but he is the Buccaneer Head Coach, and it is in the best interest, of the Bucs and fans, to give him time to build the team (players and coaches) that he believes can be a contender.
    I may complain about some of his decisions (players/coaches), and I may advocate the removal of a player/assistant coach, but not Lovie. Lovie is only at ‘square-one’ of his body-of work. He has 15 more pieces this year, before we can evaluate whether the Bucs are going forward or not.
    Capt.Tim,Back from Davie Jones’s Locker, your voice of reason is right, but let’s ask for a little more patience than 6-10 games. Come on, you gave Schiano a whole season.
    “I expressed my doubts about Schiano- but gave him one season.”
    The truth is, the Glazers won’t fire Lovie, during the season, even if it gets to 0-15. Since we don’t have nearly as much money invested, as the Glazers, it is only logical to wait until the end of the year before we start stretching Lovies’ neck.