“One Of The Issues We Had With Him”

March 22nd, 2014

schiano and gmcIt’s never good for a head coach’s legacy when one of his respected players calmly and quietly talks about how the team had multiple issues with the coach.

Greg Schiano is feeling that pain today.

Linebacker Jonathan Casillas jumped on the WDAE-AM 620 airwaves and painted a clear picture of Schiano being a fish out of water in the NFL — as in a college man floundering in a grown-up world.

Joe’s got the full audio of Casillas below. Schiano lovers be cautious.

Among other things, Casillas explains that Lovie Smith has a contrasting style: “he knows how to talk to grown men.” Casillas also says NFL players “all got big egos” and require a communication style Schiano didn’t know. Casillas also said Schiano was a “great dude” with pure intentions, but his game plans needed “manipulation.”

44 Responses to ““One Of The Issues We Had With Him””

  1. lurker Says:

    live and learn.

  2. Stevek (MGM) Says:

    Thanks for having Mark Dominick ‘s only two good drafts, Greg.

  3. Buc1987 Says:

    Oh well Greg. Have fun spending the Glazer’s money.

  4. lightningbuc Says:

    “Greg Schiano is feeling that pain today.”

    Yeah, I’m sure he’s in a lot of pain, as he gets paid millions for sitting around doing nothing, while a mediocre-at-best linebacker babbles about him on 620 “The Goober Smoocher”.

  5. lurker Says:

    we know gruden had fun spending it.

  6. NY Buc Says:

    He just might get another crack in the NFL (after his kid graduates and he spends the Glazer’s 3M)? Dude has potential (can build through the draft), but a stint as a successful DC somewhere (cough…Patriots) would do a world of good for him. Hey we have a guy who got fired from his last NFL HC gig too, so we’re banking that people can learn from their mistakes and fix their shortcomings.

  7. NY Buc Says:

    and on a completely different subject…thank you Football gods for Mike Vick signing with the Jets. At least there will be one year I don’t have to worry about seeing Vick in a Buccaneers uniform. Yes, I was still petrified Lovie would think about signing Father Dungy’s prized reclamation project even after signing McCown. Vick is not a Buccaneer Man

  8. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I think more is being made of Casillas’s comments than he intended.

    If the Bucs had won games, his personality would not have bothered anyone. That’s what you get when you take a coach from college without any NFL head coaching experience.

    We may have that issue with our OC if Lovie doesn’t keep things under control.

  9. NY Buc Says:

    Oh yeah, and that viewpoint doesn’t sound like a guy who the media tried to portray as fixing team captain ballots, releasing a defrocked franchise QB’s medical records, or any of the other crap the tar and feather crowd wanted to pin on Schiano. Good guy, good coach probably not ready yet for the NFL HC gig but will bounce back somewhere else.

  10. RastaMon Says:

    so painfully obvious…

  11. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Schiano who? One coach I’d like to forget even happened.

  12. WalkdaPlank Says:

    This coming from a guy who wishes he was playing for a division rival? He’s right, but it would mean more coming from a player like LVD, GMC, Jackson or Martin. Three of those guys were Schiano men.

  13. NY Buc Says:

    Agreed WalkdaPlank, it’s a fact that Schiano drafted those guys that seems to be glossed over by the Schiano haters. Will beat the dead horse a little move, but the guy had an excellent eye for talent even in the later rounds (probably better than Lovie’s track record in that department anyway)

  14. owlykat Says:

    Schiano was the worst Coach in Buc’s history and if you think he had such a great eye for talent look at the fools he hired as assistant coaches. Ok, lets look who he brought to the Bucs–Glennon. Four fumbles and seven interceptions, and not a single come from behind win. He was gosh awful last year and no escapability. His accuracy on long throws was off unless it was directly down the field! That was a good eye for talent!!! REALLY? And if Schiano had given a fair competition between his pet Glennon and Orlovsky, Orlovsky would have easily beaten him in Preseason because the year before Orlovsky had a 75% completion rate in preseason and Schiano did not want to let him beat out his pet. Yet he lied to the media that he was going to put the best players on the field, but he didn’t, he put his pets out there. Anyone think Teo was the best DE on the team to play as a starter with one sack the entire year. REALLY? As a college coach Shiano had 11 years and couldn’t even win his weak conference once!!! REALLY a great Coach. I am sorry, folks, I don’t see it!!!

  15. BuccFanInHawkeyeCountry Says:

    At least Raheem went 10-6. :o)

  16. lightningbuc Says:

    “Ok, lets look who he brought to the Bucs–Glennon.”

    Yeah, but let’s not look at who else he brought in, huh? Guys like Doug Martin and Lavonte David?

    And boy, the teams are really beating down Orlovsky’s door to sign him as a free agent, aren’t they?

  17. SeanyMac in SC Says:

    IMHO, Schiano is a good person, just not ready for the step up to be a HC in the NFL. I think we will see him again somewhere in the NFL, just not as a HC.

  18. JonBuc Says:

    Schiano is better suited as a high school or college coach…not a knock on him…just more in his wheel house. Can’t blame him for taking the job though.. The Glazers threw a pile of $ at him when no one else was bidding…much like Dom outbid himself for Mevis. Oh well…new day in Tampa Bay.

  19. Mumbles Says:

    The full story is yet to be told!

  20. joseph mamma Says:

    Ask Donald Penn how great Lovie Smith is at talking to grown men. Schiano was not a great coach in his first two years, we get it. Lovie Smith will be judged on winning and more importantly winning a championship. He couldn’t win one in Chicago so he was fired. Schiano won just as many super bowls as Lovie Smith has.

  21. StAugBuc Says:

    owlykat Says:
    March 22nd, 2014 at 3:26 pm

    Schiano was the worst Coach in Buc’s history
    Leeman Bennett called. He wants his title back.

  22. Oregon Buc Says:

    Chip Kelly did fine from college. Division title and almost beat the Saints in playoffs. Harbaugh three NFC championships. Schiano was a few close games from earning another season. We lost games we were leading late. I think we are better off with lovelite and will have some winning seasons soon. I miss the snuggly bear!!

  23. BamBamBuc Says:

    One of the issues we had with him was…. 0-8 to start the season.

  24. tmaxcon Says:

    Schiano was the worst Coach in Buc’s history
    Leeman Bennett called. He wants his title back.

    Ray Perkins want’s back in the discussion!

  25. Daffy Buc Says:

    Jimmy Johnson lost a ton games his first year. Longer losing streak. Owners are not as patient. Elway had horrible years starting off. Peyton had horrible years starting off. Now they all would have been cut. Chudzinski one year!! Lovie fired after 10-6. Gruden 9-7.

  26. tmaxcon Says:

    sadly for us older buc fans Bennett, Perkins and Whyce all have their name in the hat with Schiano for worst ever. Just shows the sad state of the bucs back then.

  27. StAugBuc Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    March 22nd, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Schiano was the worst Coach in Buc’s history
    Leeman Bennett called. He wants his title back.

    Ray Perkins want’s back in the discussion!
    Perkins won a minimum of 4 games every year. Bennett= 2. He wins!

  28. StAugBuc Says:

    I would agree except I think Wyche, for all his faults, started to turn things in the right direction.

  29. Kramden Says:

    Buddy Ryan on CNN pregame show circa 1993: “That guy down in Tampa is just in way over his head.” Richard Williamson wants a shot at the title, too.

  30. tmaxcon Says:

    how depressing it is that we have so many contenders for worst ever yet only one Superbowl wining coach who is almost as polarizing as the coaches who are int he discussion for worst ever.

  31. StAugBuc Says:

    Williamson only coached 1 full season. I think that was 1986, not 1993.

  32. Shawnbucfan Says:

    Richard Willamson called and said I’m the worst coach in Bucs history.

  33. StAugBuc Says:

    Shoot, my bad. 1991.

  34. StAugBuc Says:

    C’mon. He was a fill in. 3-13 in his only full season. Bennett came with cred and got double 2 – 14 seasons.

  35. Jon Says:

    Yeah. Those bums of McCoy, foster, Watson, lorig, Williams, Clayborn suck. Thanks to Greg who said in 2012 he didn’t have the time to get involved in the draft. Funny. Did Dominik draft Goode? Since he was cut must have but Greg traded up for david right? Look they are both gone, but don’t act like the Dom was terrible. I 8-9 starters on defense will be from his work. I just want people to move forward. I’m excited about 2014. I liked dom. So what? I still luv my Bucs.

  36. zam Says:

    Knowing how to talk to grown men is irrelevant imo. Coaches don’t need to be loved, but do need to be respected.

    All that matters is X’s and O’s and he didn’t have it. So he didn’t get the respect, and never had the love.

  37. Hawk Says:

    @ StAugBuc
    I agree about Wyche. His last year was the first season in over a dozen, that the Bucs did NOT have double-digit losses. When previous Buc coaches had trouble with players announcing that they wouldn’t play for the Bucs if drafted (Tony Dorsett, Bo Jackson), Wyche got big name FAs to come here (Alvin Harper, Hardy Nickerson). AND, he did it under penny-pincher Culverhouse. He also drafted Brooks, Sapp, and Lynch.
    And then the Glazers bought the team and wanted an entirely new look, from uniforms, to coaches. If Wyche had gotten to play with Glazers’ money…

  38. Buc1987 Says:

    My vote goes to Richard Williamson the WR coach turned HC.

  39. Pasco96 Says:

    I moved to Tampa Bay area in 96. I came from Kansas City, which has had a dismal record since they won the Superbowl 40 years ago. I’ve only been here since the Dungy era, who got fired but went on to a winning career in Indianapolis. Gruden was a bust after he turned Dungy’s team into his team. Raheem and Schiano were both over their heads. Lovie has done better than the previous coaches and hopefully he will have success here.

  40. J 2.0 Says:

    11-21. The biggest problem I had with him. Good Riddance Schiano, enjoy spending that unearned money.

  41. james Tanner Says:

    I’m with pasco 96 we got something new in Tampa , let’s ride

  42. BoJim Says:

    Just Dungy and Gruden, Lovie will get into the playoffs a couple times with defense and the get replaced by someone who will tweak the team and get us into the SB.

  43. Round One Says:

    @NY Bucs Fan

    Lots of places in Florida for M. Vick’s extracurricular activities. Ever hear of Arcadia?

  44. Kevin Welch Says:

    Raheem treated them like men too, they just didn’t act like men. They went from a coach who tried to be everyone’s pal, to one who was a disciplinarian (likely at the team’s request). Neither worked. I expect Lovie will treat them like adult men but expect them to act that way on and off the field or they can play elsewhere.