Big Weekend For Draft Position
November 16th, 2013
While we all cheer for the Bucs to win, at the same time there’s still only one big end-of-season prize left to be had: a first-round draft pick. With that in mind, there are key matchups this weekend.
Falcons (2-7) at Bucs (1-8) – This one is gigantic for draft position. If the Bucs lose this winnable home game and fall two games behind Atlanta, does anyone really think they can make up that ground by season’s end? On the flip side, if the Bucs win, then Joe would put his money on the Bucs passing Atlanta and finishing third in the NFC South. (Imagine a healthy Atlanta with a fourth-place schedule next season. Ouch!)
Raiders (3-6) at Texans (2-7) – Now here’s a couple of teams surely in the market for a franchise quarterback.
Arizona (5-4) at Jacksonville (1-8) – The Cardinals are probably too nasty on defense for the Jags, but Joe surely wouldn’t bet on the Cards on the road. But don’t worry, Bucs fans, Jacksonville has a pretty soft schedule the rest of the way, twice against Houston, home for Buffalo and Tennessee, and at Indianapolis and Cleveland. There should be a couple of Ws in there for the Jags.
Vikings (2-7) at Seattle (9-1) – No chance the Vikings play like the Bucs did in Seattle.
*Redskins & Giants (both 3-6) – Joe will pay more attention to these two talented teams when they face each other in the first of two December meetings.
November 16th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Here’s where it gets interesting. This game against the chickadees will go a long way in determining our draft position. If we lose, you can bank on a top 3 pick. Our schedule doesn’t get easier after ATL. We’ve had a recent history of finding ways to lose against them. Despite our record, on paper we should win this game. I would have said that about many of the games we’ve lost though. I’m eager to see this game. As always I’ll be rooting for a win but at least the silver lining will be solid draft position if we don’t.
November 16th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
I for one could care less about draft position at this point. I want wins, no matter how “meaningless” some may feel they would be now. A 2-14 season and a top three draft pick isn’t what this team needs. They need confidence.
November 16th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I believe that whether we end up with the #2 pick or the #5 pick, we will select the same player in the end. I believe the Bucs will not draft a QB with our 1st round pick, and there will be way too many teams needing to jump a few spots in order to get their “franchise” QB. I believe their will be 3 QB’s taken in the first 5 picks, therefore a player like Mathews, Clowney, or Barr will still be available at #5 or #6.
November 16th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
I want wins AND Johnny Football. We could probably get him with the seventh pick.
November 16th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
“Imagine a healthy Atlanta with a fourth-place schedule next season. Ouch!”
Only 2 games out of 16 are determined by last year’s results.
November 16th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
10 year avg draft pick + high/low based on record
0-16 = Avg pick 1
1-15 = Avg Pick 1
2-14 = Avg Pick 1.5 high pick 1 Low Pick 3
3-13 = Avg Pick 2.4 high pick 2 Low Pick 3
4-12 = Avg Pick 3.9 high pick 2 Low Pick 7
5-11 = Avg Pick 6.85 high pick 4 Low pick 10
November 16th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
I want a top 2 pick. We need to have the opportunity to draft Bridgewater or Mariota. All the other QB’s (w/ exeption of Manzel but too much of a risk for us) in the draft are Andy Dalton, Matt Schaub caliber. And you aren’t winning anything w/out an elite or close to elite QB.
November 16th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Bridgewater is overrated, and Mariota got injured in a loss to Stanford. I think our best options at QB are Manziel or Murray and if it’s Manziel the Bucs are gonna have to work on his running game, we don’t want another RGlll case.
November 16th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
@QUE589:
Right on brother!!!
November 16th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
We’re not winning a Super Bowl this year. So lets grab a few Blue Chip Premium Prospects (Top 2 Pick)
*Replace this Front Office & Some of the Coaching Staff (Bostad, Byner and Cox are keepers)
*Trade Vincent Jackson and or Darrell Revis-( Might be able to grab 2 or three picks from this scenario)
*Restructure the contracts of Donald Penn, Carl Nicks & Davin Joseph (Trade or
Release anyone that barks at it).
*Rebuild the Offensive line through the Draft & Free agency (Grab a few 6’7 / 6’8
maulers)
*Draft a QB in the later rounds, sign or trade for a capable veteran QB.
And lets go make a serious run at this next year
Note: Remember the Chiefs traded for a QB and added LT Fisher to their Online
GO BUCS
November 16th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Luvmybucs – why would you get rid of the best CB in football if money is not an issue? These trades would only make sense for a team that is 1. Close to the Cap or 2. Owners wants to reduce payroll. Do we have a surplus of WR’s and CB’s that I am unaware of?
November 16th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
IMHO-This Draft is extremely Deep. We need all the premium picks we can get (Would even suggest trading our 2015 1st rounder). With the addition of a more than capable front office & coaching staff. We can correct a few wrongs, and be set for the future
November 16th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Bucs will pick somewhere between 5 and 7. Looks like the team is improving each week and has some confidence now. Look for a 4-12 or 5-11 record when it’s all said and done.
And no to Bridgewater and Mariota. No to Manziel. Yes to DE, OL, CB or WR.
November 16th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
@WalkdaPlank
Murray is super overrated. If I can trust Manziel mentally and physically then I might take a chance. Bridgewater maybe slightly overrated. I think Mariota has elite potential (POTENTIAL)
@LUVMYBUCS
The odds of drafting an elite or franchise caliber QB in late rounds is slim to none, and they almost never hit free agency. And bottom line you’re not winning a championship w/out one
November 16th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
@WalkdaPlank
Murray is super overrated. If I could trust Manziel mentally & physically I would consider. Bridgewater is slightly overrated. I think Mariota has elite potential (POTENTIAL)
November 16th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
@FLBoyInDallas
IMHO-There isn’t moral victories that suggest finishing the season strong, after starting the season 0-8. Is a prelude to better season the next.
When organization is a rare position currently like ours, draft position is the only thing that you can eager look forward to. I can’t imagine Jim Irsay pleading with his coaches to pull out a win, while they where in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Or recall The Hunt Family beg lame duck coach Romeo Crennel & staff to squeak a few more wins.
Nah,
*On January 4, 2013, Reid reached an agreement to become the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. (Mind you-even though he added a few a additions, he employed most of the coaching staff from the previous regime)
*On January 13, 2013, news broke that Dorsey had agreed to become the new general manager of the Kansas City Chiefs.
*Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and his entire staff concluded the long, tedious process of ensuring the right players are selected for head coach Andy Reid’s system. -“Upgraded their roster at certain positions that they felt were weak,”-
2013 NFL Draft – First Round (First Overall) – Eric Fisher (OTL)
A big offensive lineman from Central Michigan. What you get is an athletic player and a great kid, smart kid, engineering major. He can play really any position along the line and loves to play the game.”
Trade their 2nd pick to San Fran for Alex Smith
November 16th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Draft Manziel and let him and Glennon battle it out for the starting job. Then trade the one who loses for a team that still needs a quarterback.
November 16th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
We don’t need a boy (M anziel) to come in here and lead our men.
Boys don’t lead men
Men lead men.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Joe you should know more than anyone else that a bad record only gets two games scheduled on your season. All other games are already determined. Your division twice, a rotating NFC division, and rotating afc division and then your record picks the other 2 games. 2 games joe that’s it. That’s not a big difference.
You think 2 games isn’t significant?? Really? You don’t think the Eagles and Lions are happy they got last year’s fourth-place Bucs on their schedule. –Joe
November 17th, 2013 at 9:01 am
A 4th place schedule? Only 2 games are decided by strength of schedule. It’s not they big of a deal. It probably is difference between playing the 3rd place NFC east team or 4th place. Likewise with another division. Other 14 games are already locked into place for decades in advance.