Back To Fundamentals For The O-Line

November 27th, 2013

The Bucs offensive line had some orders today at practice

The Bucs couldn’t run the ball against the Lions. That was painfully obvious. Bobby Rainey had as much room as Joe does in a size 32 waist pair of jeans.

It was not a good day for the Bucs’ offensive line, which had been dominant over the previous three games. Greg Schiano explained today that the offensive line was manhandled too often by Detroit. The fix began during the “padded” session of practice today.

“We got into some real fundamental run stuff,” Schiano said.

Demar Dotson told Joe that effort was a lot about preventing holding calls and getting on the blocking details.

“Working on techniques, putting our hands inside and try and keep from putting our hands of the shoulder pads where a lot of referees want to call holding when they see the hands outside,” Dotson said. “Just getting back to basic fundamentals of squeezing the pecs and getting the hands back inside so we can get back to the running game. We definitely plan on running the ball this week.”

Joe’s not sure it will get easier this Sunday in Charlotte. Statistically, the Lions were only an average run-stuffing team, despite the presence of Nick Fairley and Ndamukong Suh. In the last Bucs-Panthers game, Mike James ran pretty well but the Bucs had to abandon the run early, which led to Mike Glennon throwing 51 times in a comeback effort.

30 Responses to “Back To Fundamentals For The O-Line”

  1. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Oh Joe, Not a pretty picture heading toward a heavy Thanksgiving meal….you in a size 32 inch waist jeans…
    I love some of your analogies…right on the money!!!

    As for our running game…we will have to open that up with some passing with two back sets…..Lorig & Rainey….Would like to see Leonard & Rainey with a dump to either one….especially Leonard who will likely be the one open….

  2. Andrew 1 Says:

    I had a feeling we were going to be in trouble if we ran inside. Wish we could have called some running plays towards the outside, but we rarely did, which I dont understand. I remember one run where we tossed the ball to the outside and it went for 10 yards, but was called back on a holding penalty. it still showed that it could work. hopefully we can get the running game going against the panthers.

  3. dmatt Says:

    Plz let’s stop Newton from showboating. We did some poor tackling in our last game against the Panthers. Smash mouth football is hitting Newton and getting him rattled sending him on the sideline with a towel on his head n head tilt down to the ground wit signs of frustration. We had several opportunities last game to tackle him for loss/sack. Put a spy on him n keep him contained inside the pocket. Once he becomes frustrated, his performance declines. SSmith and DWilliams are no longer major factors as they were in games several years ago.

  4. Snook Says:

    What’s up with the new “read more” crap?

    Is this to increase clicks on site for ad revenue?

    Joe’s streamlining in preparation for some new things and mobile users. Not a big deal. –Joe

  5. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I, for one, would not mind about 4 separate roughing the QB plays on the first drive….as long as we rough him really good….lets get their fans frothing and Newton drawing back a nubb…..

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Oh…forgot……”sans the Hawk”……

  7. pick6 Says:

    i think our DEs are the ones in need of remedial training ahead of this week. as talented as our defense is, we have allowed QBs to break containment way too many times and there is all kinds of room for them when they do. cam newton is having a great year but we made him look even better than he is in our last game. if we can keep them from getting 1st downs left and right, then the pressure shifts to our run game to do its job. otherwise it’s another 50 dropbacks and an afternoon of playing catch-up

  8. WalkdaPlank Says:

    I was asking this a couple weeks ago. How long could the offensive line keep up their bulldozing-like play? Apparently not for long I suppose. Let’s not forget how awful they played the first 8 games. How much more gas do Donald Penn and Davin Joseph have? Especially Penn with his weight and Joseph with his injuries? Is Demar Dotson the long-term answer at RT? How about Jamon Meredith? He has played well, but a couple of good games won’t give you a big contract? And one of the biggest questions is Carl Nicks. All he is doing is eating up salary while sitting a ton of games out because of his mysterious toe injury. If Meredith can continue to play well and Nicks can get healthy the Bucs will soon get rid of Nicks. I don’t care how good he was before he got here, he has yet to give the Bucs a full season of play because of his staph infection/MRSA.

    Again, the Bucs need to pick up a good O-Lineman or two via the draft and/or FA. Jake Matthews would be a solid pick for the Bucs in the first round. The O-line is probably the most important component of a football team. Good O-lines give QB’s time to throw, and RB’s room to run. Without a good O-line, your QB will be frequently pressured, forcing sacks and bad throws/INT’s, and your RB won’t pick up many yards either, as we saw with Rainey that last game. Get some deals done this offseason “rockstar”.

  9. WalkdaPlank Says:

    *First 7 games, I forgot their losing effort against the Seahawks was pretty good.

  10. WalkdaPlank Says:

    *If Nicks can’t get healthy

  11. Greg Says:

    Joe, the read more crap sucks, please go back to having the entire article on the main site!

  12. Roscoe the Pirate Says:

    Joe, I read you all every day but this “Read More” is annoying. If it keeps up i may well read more of something else…

  13. d-money Says:

    Yes let’s smack Cam in the mouth a couple of times early. He folds like lawn chair when things don’t go his way.

    He’s Mr. showboat look at me look at me for the cameras when things go well but all he can do is pout like a little baby when he faces some adversity.

  14. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Joe, Thanks for the consideration of mobile phone users.

  15. Bobby Says:

    You have to click to read the comments anyway. What’s the big deal?? People find anything to whine about.

  16. d-money Says:

    Whats so bad about the read more thing?

    It’s no different than clicking to see or post comments.

    I assumed it was a way for the Joes to tidy up the home page but if it does help the boost the page clicks and make a few more bucks hen more power to them.

  17. Jrock Says:

    Not everyone leaves comments, or cares to read them. I would wager less than 5% of Joe’s traffic ever comes to the comments.

    All of JBF’s content is on the main page, and it’s been that way for years. This is the only site where you come to one place for all your news, and now that’s changing and it’s a dumb idea.

  18. Chef Paul Says:

    “Joe’s streamlining in preparation for some new things and mobile users. Not a big deal. –Joe”

    Does that mean an app?

  19. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I like the read more… have to click on to read comments anyway…so there is no extra step…..also it saves space on the articles so you don’t have to scroll down as much to see previous articles…..
    Joe knows what is best for his site & perhaps even for us….

  20. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Minimize, the DE’s Line stunts. Allow our DE’s to crash down. Combination zone coverage on the back end, to confuse Cam. Will be interesting to see how this game is called from a defensive stand point.

    Everytime we play Carolina. I can never get over the fact that , we Drafted Punter Brent Bowden out of Vatech over DE Greg Hardy. Sure the Hardy had a few nagging injuries, but when the kid hit the field at Ole Miss; he was a beast. Smh-It is what it is.

    I’m not going even bring up Josh Norman. As a franchise we’ve historical drafted we’ll from HSBC, but over the last few years. Its like we, jettison that Idea. I mean did Doug Williams bad mouth us that bad, where we can’t get in depth in intel from position coaches. I don’t know, just make you wonder sometime.

    GO BUCS!!

  21. Don Says:

    Agree on the “Read More” slows down a good article. Can you do away with that annoying thing Joe?

  22. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Its all monetization, do you thang Joe. I aint mad at you. Amazing to see how far you’ve come with this blog over the years. Raise my glass to your Sir, keep grinding-Buc’em

  23. Adam L. Says:

    “Fundamentals” as in “actually blocking the guy in front of you.”

    There’s no “getting back to” with this squad. There have been TWO games where there were lanes for Bucs running backs: Miami and Atlanta. That’s it.

    Doug Martin got beaten senseless back there.

    Suh ate Rainey for lunch on one play.

    This O-Line needs a serious make-over this off-season. Nicks needs to go… he’s not helping and he’s a salary cap LEECH. Tell him to take his gimp toe and pound sand. Penn is fat and is more known for gimmick passes than actual blocking. Merideth got the worst grade in the NFL this week from Dotson is a serial holder. I think Joseph gets a bye for his injury and that’s about it.

    “Strength of the team.” PFFT… that’s like having Lindsay Lohan as your AA sponsor.

  24. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Adam L

    I’m with you brotha, been preaching the same for about a year. Luckily there’s some solid prospects in this years draft to help fill the void.

    1st Round
    LT-Taylor Lewan (6-7 315)

    2nd Round
    G/T Cedric Ogbuehi ( 6-5 300) -The kid is a natural guard, but can swing at tackle (VALUE)

    G/C Xavier Su’a-Filo (6-3 305) Another value pick, can play guard and center

    RT/RG JaWuan James Tennessee (6-6 318)

  25. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    If we wanted to take a gamble on a kid. The OG/C out of Nebraska Spencer Long (6-4 315). Was a solid prospect before his injury. Red shirt the kid for a year, possible late round prospect that might pay dividends.

  26. Adam L. Says:

    How about the C Bryan Stork from FSU? I’m a homer, but he’s a 5th year senior on a pr style run between the tackles offense.

  27. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Adam L.

    Stork could be a gym

    Speaking of Fundamentals, what do you think?

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  29. stanglassman Says:

    I like the new format Joe. It convenient and much cleaner, nice.

  30. Brandon Says:

    I only like this format if it means a JoeBucsFan app is on the way. Even Pewter Circle or whatever it is… Plank, has an app, and their content is below standard.