Soured On The Commander

September 9th, 2013

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Joe has often referred to the day after the first Sunday slate of NFL games each season as “Overreaction Monday.” Fans of winning teams believe their team will hoist the Vince Lombardi Trophy aloft in victory in February. Fans of losing teams are convinced their team will pick first in next spring’s draft.

That’s part of what makes the NFL so great. Fans are so passionate.

The Bucs played a trainwreck of a football game yesterday. It was awful, but given it’s Week 1, Joe is trying to temper his disgust.

One very fed up person Pewter Report chieftain Scott Reynolds who, after watching the tripe the Bucs claimed was professional football, has seen enough to reach strong conclusions. He thinks he knows what ails the Bucs and it happens to be Bucs coach Greg Schiano and his staff.

I believed in the talent on the roster and the new talent that general manager Mark Dominik had acquired through free agency, such as free safety Dashon Goldson, through trades, like the one that acquired cornerback Darrelle Revis, and through the draft, where players like cornerback Johnthan Banks and defensive tackle Akeem Spence were found.

I believed that the bevy of talented players in Tampa Bay could flip the switch and turn off a dreadful, uninspiring preseason and turn on some Pro Bowl-caliber performances and beat up on a talent-void New York Jets team in Week 1. Some players, like wide receiver Vincent Jackson, who had seven catches for 154 yards in a stunning 18-17 loss at New York, did just that.

The thing is, I still believe in the Bucs players. But after watching an offense sputter, stall and struggle to generate just 17 points, witnessing a rookie quarterback do enough to prevail in his first NFL game against the revamped defense, and watching the Bucs record a whopping 13 penalties for 102 yards, I don’t have a lot of faith in Schiano and his coaching staff.

Reynolds went on to list what a circus the game was for the Bucs, from the communication issues to Josh Freeman struggles (yet again), to backup quarterback Mike Glennon taking precious preseason snaps away from Freeman to beating Doug Martin into a wall, to the offensive line acting like windmills, to the general lack of preparation, pathetically so.

Joe surely cannot argue with any of Reynolds points. Joe has already touched upon this but it bears repeating. It is galling for a disciplinarian like Schiano to have a team play so grossly undisciplined and unprepared yesterday.

The Bucs organization likes to brag that Schiano’s assistant coaches are good teachers. What exactly were they teaching this summer? It’s not like this collage of coaches needs to add to its ranks. How many assistants do the Bucs have now, 74?

Joe doesn’t think there is any doubt that starters should have played more in preseason. Maybe Schiano needs to re-evaluate just how his coaches are teaching. Whatever they did the past six weeks or so feels like a giant waste.

At least on this Overreaction Monday.

94 Responses to “Soured On The Commander”

  1. Couch Fan Says:

    I have not given up fully on Schiano… but wow, that was just some lousy play calling and game planning yesterday. Just awful. This may sound stupid but I think its perfectly logical to think that maybe Schiano under rated the Jets to the point where he thought he could play vanilla to hide our plays, game plan, whatever you wanna call it, from the Saints and still be able to beat up on the Jets. Dam did that back fire.

  2. Couch Fan Says:

    Personally, I hope thats^^ not the case because if it is then he should be fired for stupidity.

  3. Mike Says:

    Reynolds is spot on. Fire Schiano that disgraceful lous. Joe should quit the lecturing about it being “Overreacting” Monday. If you cant beat a lowly team like the Jets, you cant beat anyone. How many more years of losing do we have to have before Joe gets fed up?

  4. lightningbuc Says:

    Scott Reynolds also believed a lot of people would pay for “insider” Bucs news.

  5. HouseOfBacon Says:

    This is a fantastic lead-up to Tantrum Tuesday and Whining Wednesday. I look forward to it.

    Hopefully, this was indeed a wake-up call and the rest of the week will be everybody kicking themselves in the ass in practice to get it corrected.

  6. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    How many coaches does this team have to go through until some start looking at the real problems this team has. How many free agents, draft pics, and people off the street are starting for the Bucs. What does that tell you about this teams talent!

  7. McBuc Says:

    Couch,I sure hope yoou are right. I hope he learned a lesson as well. I give the lion’s share of the bl;blame to Shiano. I am also starting to warm up to the Glennon move, which I never thought I would type on these pages. I am thinking they need some kind of spark, and maybe new blood will bring that. Then again, if the coaches suck this bad all year nothing is going to save us…Shameful coaching.

  8. Bucnnole Says:

    Mike Sullivan is a “hot” head coaching candidate… Hahahahahaha. This coaching staff is a joke.

  9. FanOfBucs Says:

    Schiano needs to improve or he’s gone. Simple.

    Too bad we are letting the unproven coach run off the more proven qb.

    I’m just about ready to hit RESET on the whole thing, Dominik included.


  10. Chef Paul Says:

    Just call me an over ripe lemon, because I’m as sour as can be on this coach. He’s turning into Herm Edwards. All talk. Herm is a great speaker and a terrible Head Coach. Sounds just like Schiano to me.

  11. lightningbuc Says:


    I realize you’ve been busy clubbing Lavonte David to death this morning, but Reynolds’ article makes no mention of him saying Glennon should have played yesterday. Only thing he says is it may have been a mistake to give him so much playing time in the preseason.

  12. bucrightoff Says:

    Its not overreacting when you lose to one of the worst teams in the league and are facing 2 of the 4 best QBs in the league coming up. 0-3 is a very real possibility, even a likelyhood at this point. At that point its entirely possible everything comes unglued. The horrificness of yesterdays loss cannot be overstated. It could mean the end for Schiano, Freeman and Dominik.

  13. Sneedy16 Says:


    To blame talent we have for that egg we laid is just silly. We had better talent than the Jets but yet we allowed a rookie to look like a 3 year pro. This is all coaching.

  14. FrankPillow Says:

    The more I think about this, the more this game/team really resembles Rutgers…good enough to lose the close ones and not matter. Fact is Freeman doesn’t belong in the NFL. Schiano too. I watched part of the 49ers-Packers game and the difference between those QBs and schemes and ours is glaring. Coaches too.

    Today’s NFL is too complicated, too fast for a cement legged, inaccurate, slow processor to sit back there and react. Good QBs don’t react…they ACT…there’s a huge difference. Good coaches coach to win, to play aggressively…not play with a QB you don’t have faith in and call plays that resemble Roland Acosta’s Wing-T.

    Winner organizations never let Chip Kelly out of their sight w/o a signed contract—if that’s your target, you stick it. Loser organizations consider Mike Sherman, Marty, a whole slew of lackluster options and end up hiring Schiano.

  15. RBellBuc Says:

    So I guess to satisfy these talking heads, Schiano needs to go on a tirade. Oh wait, that wouldn’t work because then they’ll go back to talking about how Schiano is a bully.

    This is a no win situation for Schiano. Only if LVD hadn’t committed such a blatant crime we wouldn’t be wanting everyone sent to the gallows.

    Coming up is Tampa’s first home game. If they can’t sell out their first game against an in division rival, then Tampa doesn’t deserve a team. Move to Vegas, so I can go to the games.

  16. BFFL Says:

    I think more credit needs to be given to the Jets. They have an above average defense that was playing at home in front of loud fans (hope our fans get loud too). I’ve seen very good Buc teams from the past get absolutely destroyed there. It’s only one game and I think the mistakes that were made can be corrected.

  17. ben Says:

    I didnt like the clyde christianson offense yesterday either. Demps is suppose to be in practice today i would love to see him get a chance in the slot,we are getting zero from the te/3rd wr spot. We are in two te sets and dont even really have a te

  18. Phil Says:

    I’ve been a Bucs fan since 1976 and I have never been more disappointed in the performance of a Buccaneer team. I think there is more talent on this Buccaneer team than any team the Bucs have had including the Super Bowl team. To come and play the way they did against a bad Jets team there is really no excuse for it.

  19. crazy Says:

    Kinda like Saban’s Dolphins, isn’t it? Makes you wonder whose idea it was to bring Wannstedt on board and how long the Glazers will put up with this pathetic level of performance. The Captain can point fingers at his crew for their numerous horrendous mistakes but whether he ran the ship aground or they ran it aground it still ran aground. Nothing we’ve seen so far should give anyone confidence this ship is going to be righted any time soon. There are too many things wrong. Drastic as it may sound it’s time for a change of command.

  20. bucs4lyfe Says:

    How can you not give up on this head coach, he’s proven that he wont change that he cant adapt with the league. he’s doing the exact same things that lost us games last year…seee philly game see the redskins game. we give up on freeman but not schiano, if anything this freeman experience tells us that we knew the second year what freeman was gonna be but for some reason dominick sat around and didnt even try to draft a qb, he let go of josh johnson for orvlowsky. This on paper factor, do you see talent or do you see a clear direction….it sucks that i have to say shaun king was right

  21. Bobby Says:

    Everybody keeps saying we lost to one of the worst teams in the league. Who made that call? Last time I checked they had the #8 ranked defense last year and they added Millner and Richardson. They also have how many pro bowl players on that O-line? They were a QB away from being a good team and Geno actually played pretty well for his first time out. We gave this game to them with penalties…plain and simple. Once again in an ugly, ugly performance we did enough to win the game but lost it over stupidity. Personally, I’m over it and looking toward next week. If we can clean up the penalties and get Nicks back we should be in the mix. I think the fan base and the media underestimated the Jets who usually play well at home. Certainly they underestimated Geno Smith who wasn’t spectacular but certainly didn’t look like a rookie most of the time.

  22. Bobby Says:

    Oh…and YES. It IS overreaction Monday.

  23. Couch Fan Says:

    we give up on freeman but not schiano


    I dont like changing the topic but you can’t compare a 1 year coach to a 5th year player…. Your analogy doesnt make sense. We’ve had plenty of time to see Freeman play. Schiano looked awful yesterday but in all fairness he hasent been given enough time…. But he did lose a lot of credibility yesterday.

  24. RBellBuc Says:

    Everyone of you calling for Schiano’s and his coaches heads this early are complete irrational imbeciles. I think that transient Tampa fan base is the worst. There is noway fans behave that badly and claim to be real Buc fans. Yeah, you might live there but you’ve made the Bucs your second team. This is why it’s so easy for you all to continually rip on the Bucs org. They need to move the Bucs from that northeast transient mobile home park for a city to Vegas, where through time they will build a legitimate fan base and not some carpetbag vacation home.

  25. bucs4lyfe Says:

    2nd year dude and if your putting this lose on freeman your a nutcase, the offense had no vision no imagination, they wont even let freeman run from the pocket. he isnt the accurate qb we need but atleast he used to make up for some of his deficiencies with his legs running. Did you not watch the rookie nick foles beat us last year, where is he this year….sitting on the bench. their defensive philosophy is killing us lol why upgrade, the back end was supposed to be a strength. I know im overreacting because im pissed so ill just stop and give it a rest by saying this

    It doesnt matter what kind of resources you have if you dont know how to use them correctly. revis hasnt played in a year and held his man to 1 catch so why was there still help over the top? why did they rush for so many yards, they could have kept a man in the box all day and blanketed kellen winslow who was their only threat….he wont sign veterans or go after big names because there’s no veteran would agree with his philosophy

  26. Robbie_G Says:

    @RBellBuc.. you think this is bad?? Try living here near Philly, these fans are gawd awful. Besides it’s one game, the O looked terrible, and way to many flags. Since I live here in the dreaded North East, maybe I can not comment.

  27. lightningbuc Says:

    “They need to move the Bucs from that northeast transient mobile home park for a city to Vegas”

    To go with all those other professional sports teams you have. Las Vegas makes New Orleans look like utopia.

  28. thats a joke Says:

    vegas would get swallowed up by the dessert before it gets an nfl team, only thing its good for is gambling, girls and about 2 more sequels of resident evil

  29. Turk182 Says:

    I am not saying Schiano and his multiple of coaches don’t have some blame on an teaching how to let up when the QB is scrambling out of bounds to stop the clock (Gerald McCoy did let up though knowing he was heading out of bounds), but Freeman put us where we were with his up and down play, IMHO.
    Any idea where the ex captain was on Full Team Buccaneer picture day days after not being reelected captain? I was told he was not “leading” and was not in the picture with his teammates. Good thing for photoshop I guess. You can’t make the whole team come back and blame Freeman as that just makes people mad. I wonder if Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ever missed their team picture day.

  30. bucrightoff Says:

    Seriously, we haven’t won a playoff game in 11 years. This team, someone said it, is arguably the most talented Bucs team ever. The Chiefs did what you’re supposed to do to bad teams yesterday: They crushed them. I wanna believe in the Bucs, but then things like yesterday happen. Seriously, is anyone of the opinion the Bucs will be better than 1-3 going into the bye?

  31. JT Says:

    When a team looks that unprepared, that falls on the coaching. Schiano is in over his head.

  32. BucsfaninChina Says:

    @RBellBuc Kinda desperate for attention today, are we?

    It is overreaction Monday, but yea the coaches look absolutely foolish/inept/whatever the hell hou want to call it. Not calling for anyone’s head yet as I want to believe rust was the reason behind a collectively bad performance (again, looking at you, coaches). Lets see what happens in our home opener against a divisional opponent. If i see anything like what happened yesterday i will be calling for a few heads on the next installment of overreaction monday.

  33. Couch Fan Says:


    Are you even reading any of my comments are just running off at the mouth hoping something you say sticks?

    I’m pretty sure I’ve said a couple 1000 times that the play calling was horrible…. that does not excuse Josh’s awful performance… nor does it excuse the rest of the awful performance of the offense as a whole. Josh was bad yesterday. Despite the play calling.

  34. RBellBuc Says:

    That’s the problem, that same attitude and mentality in Philly, the whole Northeast, Boston NY whatever have fled down to Tampa and brought their same disgusting attitude. Most say they have adopted the Bucs as their team but only second fiddle to whatever team they had come down from, which makes it even easier to be more cruel since they are only their second favorite team.

    If they don’t completely sellout this weekend I could only wish that Team glazer looks into moving to Vegas. We will build you a new state of the art facility and we will build OBP even better, and we’ll comp your meals for 10 years at the casinos. lol

  35. passthebuc Says:

    There is nothing wrong with Freeman’s ability. If he is following a script, a playbook or a game plan. The problem is nothing ever goes as scripted and herein lies the problem with Freeman. He does not think fast enough on his feet when things do not go as planned. He takes way to long to read a defense and he seldom chooses the proper audible when changing plays at the line of scrimmage. I think he has all the tools and can be successful, albeit I doubt it will happen in Tampa. I have more faith that Freeman is correctable than the Buc’a themselves. Look across the offensive line an tell me a player that could start for the top 15 teams in the league. Face it, we have been media hyped into believing this line was great. Joseph is good and with better players surrounding him he might come alive. Penn might start for one or two of the bottom teams but would be cast out in the next draft. Its was too soon to discuss the abilities of the front four on defense but the rest of the D will work through problems. The problem, is all of the team is much better than the coaching.

  36. Couch Fan Says:

    I’m not even saying we need to start Glennon or anything. Josh is still our best option but its amazing that the Freemanites can’t even just say “Josh had an awful game and this one is mainly on him and the coaching”

    There is always an excuse.

  37. tha truth is ... Says:

    Schaino’s stubbornness will be his ultimate downfall if he doesn’t shape it up quickly. Compare how we run our offense to teams around tha league and it looks like we’re stuck in tha Stone Age. Zero creativity at all. Far too much 2 te sets, continuously running up tha middle on first down when it clearly isn’t working along with lack of play action, screens and misdirection plays and u have a recipe for disaster. I understand we dnt have tha personnel to run more 3 WR/4WR/5WR sets but at least call a couple plays from those formations to play mind games and throw tha defense off to better acclimate yourself to be successful throughout tha game.

  38. RBellBuc Says:

    Vegas!!! Vegas!!! Vegas!!!

  39. JT Says:

    If Doug Martin is going to avoid a slump, freeman has to step it up. Otherwise defenses will put eight in the box to stuff the run until Freeman proves he can torch torch them, which he did not yesterday.

  40. RBellBuc Says:


    Freeman had an awful game!!!!!! YEA!!!! Freeman had an awful game!!!!!! YEA!!!! Freeman had an awful game!!!!!! YEA!!!! Freeman had an awful game!!!!!! YEA!!!! Freeman had an awful game!!!!!! YEA!!!!

    Vegas!!! Vegas!!! Vegas!!!

  41. Buc4lyfe Says:

    Couch Fan

    my friend im honestly not thinking about you at all, im kinda ignoring you because on a day when the entire team as a whole, including coaches had a game like that after having all the time to prepare, your basically telling me that even though everyone was out of sync and the entire offense sucks, it doesnt excuse freeman’s performance. dude a team with zero weapons ZERO WEAPONS besides kellen winslow beat us, why is that because freeman sucks? vjack’s job is easy, run routes get open, freeman depends on all 10 guys doing their job AND the offensive coordinator AND the coach. marty morningwheg looked like a coordinator with a plan, they excuted it well, yea freeman in inconsistent but so is coaching, we get out coached every week except against garbage teams, everyone expected us to blitz this rookie like mad but lol their game plan was what? do you even know?

  42. RBellBuc Says:

    is that enough or would it please you to hear more???

  43. lightningbuc Says:

    Freeman gets 57 games, hasn’t gotten any better, but we are to be patient.

    Schiano and his staff gets 17 games and it’s time to show them the door.

    Oh yeah, and how come no one is giving Lavonte a pass – it was afterall, just his first game in his second year. He needs time, like Freeman, to come around.

  44. JT Says:

    Sorry to beat a dead horse but Freeman needs to go back to using his running ability as a weapon. It really keeps defenses guessing. Oh wait, Schiano said no bueno.

  45. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Well at least someone recognizes the real problems. This team was out coached from beginning to end by a team with lesser players. The talent on this team made it look close but Ryan had the perfect game plan, executed to perfection. Don’t let Martin run and make the QB convert long third downs. That is the plan to stop most teams and it worked today.

    Vincent Jackson was open all day yet we just decided to keep pounding the ball when it was incredibly obvious that Rex was selling out to stop it. You need to make them pay for coming after the run. Not play right into their hands by running the ball right at them.

    Schiano has some MAJOR damage control to do before Sunday. Not sure how many average fans need to point out the useless stunts in passing situations before they will listen. I don’t know what the exact responsibilities for Schiano, Sheridan, and Sullivan are but someone needs to go. Whoever keeps pushing this stunting nonsense needs to wake up. It might work against the run but it damn sure doesn’t accomplish anything against the pass.

    The only people that think Freeman lost this game for us are the people that have been bashing him for the last six months. Just business as usual for these “fans”.

    People also need to realize that while the Jets offense has been a joke for sometime, their defense has been top notch for years. Even without Revis. Not being able to run the ball and being in several 3rd-and-longs killed us.

  46. RBellBuc Says:

    Does anyone think the Bucs front office people, or “The Brass” read any of these comments on JBF?

    In case they do,

    Move to VEGAS!!! It would be exciting!!!! VEGAS!!!!

  47. bucrightoff Says:

    There’s a lot wrong with Freeman’s ability. Not physically…mentally. Ryan Leaf was physically gifted as can be…so what? That interception was a terrible decision, one he has made consistently when pressured. And it doesn’t even have to be real pressure, just the belief pressure is coming. Wilkerson was dead on in his assesment. And back to back weeks facing the Ryan bros? If he couldn’t handle Rex, he won’t handle Rob much better. I just want a QB I can trust. Freeman isn’t that.

  48. BirdDoggers Says:

    The Bucs still have 15 more games to play. The mistakes made on Sunday are fixable. The question is can this coaching staff put the players in the position to succeed? We don’t know. The team has talent without a doubt. It’s up to the coaches to maximize that talent.

    I’m not big on reading too much into one game, but one thing to think about. As an example, Jim Harbough took over a fairly talented roster in San Fran. He immediatley turned that team, with a few additions, into a Super Bowl caliber club. Sometimes, the coaching staff can’t get the job done. I hope Schiano can right the ship and maximize the talent on this roster. If not, the organization is back to square one.

  49. JT Says:

    The frusterating part is, more often than not, our defense played it right. We got pressure we held them in check we made Geno beat us which he didn’t do. But our offense, thanks to schiano(and David), gift wrapped this game for Geno “got swag” Smith and The Jets.

  50. lightningbuc Says:

    Was very disappointing to not see the fireworks the Freemanites A.K.A. “the real fans” prepared us for all offseason. JFro led us to a whopping 10 points (the defense gave Doug Martin 7 points on the fumble on the 5 yard line), but the offense gave away two of those, so really it was a net 8. I thought if the defense was improved just a bit, that it was going to be bombs away for Freeman, Doug Martin, and all the other weapons. But it’s not their fault – it’s the headsets, the coaches, they didn’t have the right cleats on, the Jets have the #8 defense (though the Freemanites are quick to point out the Bucs had the #9 offense), etc etc

  51. bucfanjeff Says:

    @Buc4lyfe +1

    “Fans” always blame Freeman – and YES – he IS inconsistent…BUT, with the talent we have on our team, this game should not have happened. The game is won and lost in the trenches OL and DL.

    How is Freeman or Martin supposed to do ANYTHING behind our swiss cheese OL?

    Why do we put our best DL in McCoy in stunts all the time when he clearly is at his best attacking the guy in front of him?

    We knew Geno was mobile…so, no spy?

    Freeman didn’t play well, but led us in the end when it mattered most.
    Defense did play well, but choked in the end when it mattered most.
    We were not prepared and we were out coached.

  52. RBellBuc Says:

    Have the Bucs sold out this Sunday? Or do all of you have to watch on crappy illegal internet feed, like me? lol

    If there is one thing I know for sure, is get the hell out of Tampa.
    Start over fresh, rebuild your brand with a city that would embrace you.

    Move to VEGAS!!!

  53. Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    The headset malfunction was a classic example of the team not being prepared.
    Schiano should have made sure plays were scripted!

  54. Buc4lyfe Says:

    Now you see why we dont have a veteran defensive tackle with a big name, looked what happened when we got that guy from chicago, he left went back to chicago and ripped schiano. If gerald mccoy is your best player on the line why not tailor your scheme and personel to fit his skills, but no he’s moving clayborn to the other side when left is where he’s comfortable, why not bring in a pass rush specialist instead of thinking bowers is one. nope you let the team give all their focus to mccoy because no one respects the scheme or the players up front. bowers didnt show any kind of pass rush skills, plenty of bull rushing so why not spend money on dline if you think were built to win now, why not make sure we are by addressing the d line with more than rookies and unproven players….stubborn coach….most coaches would put that lost on themselves but not schiano he’s talking about what he didnt like but look how the media goes at rex ryan when he makes bad decisions….What happened to accountability, havent heard it since his first offseason

  55. Turk182 Says:

    Where was Freeman on his Team’s Picture Day? Good thing for Photoshop. He was the only one missing.

  56. McBuc Says:

    Freeman did have an awful game, so he does get a big portion of the blame…but…if the coaches had everyone including Freeman prepared, maybe he would have had a good game.

    Ignore the Vegas cat, no city is more transient than Vegas.

  57. RBellBuc Says:

    ^^^^^^bullshit^^^^^ lot of visitors not residence moron

  58. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Sheesh, you Debbie Downers need to give it a few more games before you pack it in for the season. I’m confident Schiano will right the ship. Although he fell short of a winning record last season, we were in every game up to the end with the exception of 3. And that was with injuries to key players and amid a JFro meltdown. Keep calm and get lucky tonight, you’ll feel better by Sunday.

  59. JT Says:

    After the Lavonte David interception it should have been at the very least 17-5 but Freeman throws it to a defender because he and Vjax were not on the same page. Could have easily been 21-5. Thank you #5.

  60. RBellBuc Says:

    McBuc^^^^bull crap^^^^ Yea we get a lot of visitors but we have a very large thriving natural born people not influenced by carpetbaggers like yourselves

  61. JT Says:

    RBelBuc The Bucs are not moving to Vegas. Bucs fans stop acting like this troll matters.

  62. bucrightoff Says:

    We could play great the next two weeks and still be 0-3. The opponents are very difficult. And when we get to 0-3 look the hell out. Fans were extremely hoepfully coming into this season, an 0-3 start would be a catastrophe and will hurt the franchise chances of getting the fan base back. Want to end the blackouts? WIN!

  63. JT Says:

    For the record, Corperations buy tickets not people. Except in Tampa where Corperate support is next to nothing unless your The Lighting, who play downtown. That’s why it makes me sick when BSPN says Tampa has no fans when we do have a strong fanbase for all three of our teams.

  64. SteveK Says:

    Look at the QBs with less service time in the NFL than FReeman. Almost all of them are outperforming Josh.

    Freeman is not productive enough for the rigors of today’s NFL.

    To all the Freemanites:

    Did Josh put together a body of work yesterday worthy of being a “winning” performance?

    You can call me a hater all you want, but Geno Smith, in his NFL debut, outplayed Freeman in his 57th career start. Pathetic.

  65. Buc Neckid Says:

    This is what the Bucs do
    they play down to their opponents
    and then they’ll beat the better teams in the league.
    While their play yesterday gives no indication of this,
    watch them win against the Saints this Sunday.

  66. RBellBuc Says:

    This troll does matter.. Try to appreciate what you have or go ahead and run off the best thing going is my message. Do you actually think the Bucs organization wants to read that over 70% fan base don’t like them or anything they’ve done even in the last 2 years. Bunch of unappreciative crybabies. So what one game.. get over your dumb selves. quit threatening that your gonna quit being a fan or say you won’t go to anymore games. You are a terrible city and the whole nation knows it. Will the real born Tampa citizens please stand up. Oh you can’t cause most have moved out because all the carpetbaggers took over.

  67. Bobby Says:

    The interception had nothing to do with Freeman and V-Jax not being on the same page. It had to do with Freeman being hit just as he threw. He should never have thrown that pass toward Jackson. It should have been thrown away.

  68. Turk182 Says:

    I wonder if Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ever missed their team picture day like Josh did. I am sure Josh was busy celebrating less responsibilities as an team elected team captain.

  69. bucrightoff Says:

    How is being insanely frustrated make us unappreciative crybabies? I think accepting mediocrity is the true sign a bad fan. This should be a playoff team. People can say its week 1 overreacting, but the Jets appeared in disarray and the Bucs were (or should have been) fully ready to bury them. Instead the Bucs crapped the bed. Drew Brees and Tom Brady the next two weeks…sorry for not having optimism, but if you can tell me why I should I’ll happily listen.

  70. JT Says:

    Freeman was getting knocked around all day and he didn’t throw an interception. He threw an interception because he grossly overthrew Vjax who probably saw the safety(I think it was a safety) over top so he kept the route shallow but apparently Freeman didn’t even see the defender which,possibly,could be because of pressure in his face.

  71. K_bassuka Says:

    To me Schiano and his style is not fit for the NFL at least not yet. One thing that most drill sergeant type coaches have its they can walk the walk and obviously Schiano can’t. Yes we have hear the Tampa based media trying to pimp Schiano to us, but the reality is he has not won anything meaningfull or developed great players. Some will look at Ray Rice and act like if Schiano made him, maybe it was the other way around.

    No one else offer Schiano a HC gig for a reason… There are some coaches that can walk the walk but as long as Schiano it’s running the show I expect this team to have another mediocre Rutgers like year….

  72. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Again, everybody saying Freeman had some catastrophic failure of a game is blatantly ignoring the Jets stud defense.

    Here are a few games from QBs against the Jets defense last year:

    Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
    M. Schaub 14/28 209 1 1
    A. Luck 22/44 280 0 2
    T. Bra-dy 26/42 259 2 0
    P. Rivers 11/22 165 2 0
    Fitzpatrick 18/32 195 3 3
    Tannehill 16/36 196 0 1
    A. Smith 12/21 143 0 0
    MattMoore 11/19 131 1 0
    R. Wilson 12/19 188 2 0

    I’m sorry but even really good QBs like Bra-dy don’t consistently dominate this defense. They are really good. And they did this all without Revis last year.

  73. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    ^^Damnit, spacing got all jacked up.

  74. ander Says:

    all I can say is the o line is underperforming, its terrible what theyre doing. josh freeman is the most inconsistent qb in the nfl and its driving me nuts. stocker is the worst starting te in the nfl. he has no business starting. period. Jackson=top 5 receiver so underated Williams is great too. and our defense is so physical the way the play is definetly old school. martin is my guy but why didn’t schiano try hillis at all I still don’t get that. and for all you fools talking smack about lorig I am pretty sure you guys saw the difference yesterday. bucs I am still trying to have faith but its pretty hard and the main reason its freeman. I just don’t trust him period.

  75. Nick weber Says:

    I don’t think freeman is the issue. But with that said, if we end up getting a top 5 pick in next years draft, Bridgewater or Manziel needs to be the pick. Fire Dom, Schiano and the staff. Bring in a guy who can run a read option type of offense. Both of those qb’s can run and pass. This is only the worst/best case scenario. I surely hope we can straight things out with the current staff and number 5.

  76. JT Says:

    I blame this loss 33%each for Freeman, Sullivan and Schiano give and take a little either way. I thought Freeman was OK despite having pressure in his face ALL day. But the second quarter INT and a few passes to Martin which were grossly off the mark(to be fair Martin Dropped a perfect pass in the fourth with nothing but daylight ahead of him) resulted in letting The Jets “hang around” and ultimately get this game handed to them.

  77. Capt. Tim Says:

    Anyone who watched the game yesterday, and tries to blame any one player, is an idiot.
    Anyone who thinks that talelentless skinny rookie is going to improve anything, is an even bigger idiot- and knows nothing of football. Please stop posting. It’s an embarrassment to the community. If you are really that clueless,please keep it to yourself.

    The problem is where it always has been. Since the day they hired him. It’s Schiano. I love the guy. Love his discipline. Love his morales. Live that he holds players accountable. Love that he got rid of the scumbags on this team

    But going from head coach at Rutgers- to Head coach of the Bucs?
    It would be like going from A junior high school coach, to coaching The university of Florida.

    It was to far, to fast. I said the day of the hire. So did Eric. As usual, we were both right. And this time, it sucks to be right.

    I love the guy. But the minute the Jets fire Ryan- he’d be getting his Buc paraphernalia and contract offer.

    Shiano has all the weapons here to win, except one.
    NFL experience. But that was is fatal

  78. Adam L Says:

    When Pewter Report is ripping the Bucs – a magazine whose entire profit margin is dictated by placating and appeasing the myopic optimistic fan base kind of the same way MSNBC caters to the liberal mob – you KNOW the Bucs are in DEEP, DEEP TROUBLE.

  79. ander Says:

    captim how is schiano the problem the guy has had the team competing since day one playing hard has changed the culture and he is the problem. NO the problem is the mistakes the errors the bucs have made during the game schiano cannot control what david did and I am not blaming him for the game he cannot control that the oline is underperforming in the game. dropped passes by ogletree the inconsistency of freeman. I love goldson but giving 30 yards to a team is tough. its a lot of things. yes he deserves some of the blame but I think its all around.

  80. RBellBuc Says:

    Say all the meanest and hateful stuff you can think of and reap what you sow.

    Las Vegas Buccaneers!!!!

  81. bucrightoff Says:

    Glennon sucks based off what? We’ve seen nearly 60 games of Freeman. We know what we have there: A mediocre to bad QB. If we’re going down this year, might as well see what Glennon has. If he sucks, at least we’re in the top 3 so we get either Bridgewater, Boyd or Clowney. A 6-10 or 7-9 season would be a catastrophe.

  82. RBellBuc Says:

    bucrightoff say it with me dude!!!!

    Las Vegas Buccaneers!!!!

    Let’s do something about those dreadful Buc’s. I know , send them packing!

    Las Vegas Buccaneers!!!! Baby!!!

  83. Broy3434 Says:

    Everybody is putting blame on individuals or a certain part of the team when in truth it took 4 would-be-4th-down flags to hand this game to the jets. It took Freeman making QB play look like rocket science and of course horrible playcalling to lose this game. I could’ve used my madden playbook to run a better offensive gameplan. The refs were ridiculous on the goldson and Barron hits and either of those flags not being thrown would’ve resulted in a win for the Bucs. On the plus side the defense was lights out considering the time of possession and the fact the jets didn’t score a single point that didn’t come off a penalty. The defense defended everything well and the same goes for the Jets D. Their front 7 was ferocious. They kept calling the same plays over and over again. Run up the middle an get stuffed on firsthand run slants the rest of the drive. Schiano runs the d and it was solid yesterday. He doesn’t run the offense and it was abysmal. As for the future, this team could win 10 games with one simple adjustment: FREEMAN NEEDS TO SCRAMBLE. In ’10 he was absolutely dominant without a SINGLE weapon. If he scrambles and extends drive we blow the jets out. If the NFL doesn’t change the rules to protect their own asses we blow the jets out. The worst part of all of this is with 30 seconds left up two I told my buddy the Bucs would lose the game. It was soooo evident it would happen.

  84. Expected Says:

    Calm down! It takes more than 1 year to turn a team around smh relax

  85. Bobby Says:

    I’d say it would be wise to let the season play out before spouting off you were right about any predictions. This was game one…not the season.

  86. Broy3434 Says:

    People do need to calm down. I was calm the whole game yesterday. The problem is waiting and knowing they’d fail despite desperate hopes they wouldn’t. Playoffs are a long shot with that loss no matter what way you slice it. A normal schedule and I’d say it’s just one game. But we have ourselves a gauntlet

  87. Chef Paul Says:

    We really do need to calm down, I agree. I would normally agree that a week 1 loss shouldn’t get us all riled up. But this is a big loss. Now we have Saints Pats, and a very good Cardinals team, that sure looked better yesterday in a loss than we have in a long time. I am calm now finally at 2 o’clock in the afternoon. But it is very probable we go 0-3. And it isn’t unlikely we 0-4 before the bye. Then what? I really really don’t want to go through another GM, or another coach, or another QB. But it is what it is and it just might happen. This loss was huge. It feels like the first domino. Now if we beat the Saints, who we usually play really well against, I’ll feel a lot better, and the season will be salvaged for the time being. This is probably the only time since I’ve been watching foozball for about 30 years now, that week one meant that much. It’s sad and sounds crazy but it’s true also

  88. bucrightoff Says:

    Mike Glennon, Teddy Bridgewater, Tajh Boyd. One of these 3 will be the 2014 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Starting QB.

  89. Patrick Says:

    Johnny Football in 2014. F*k Freeman!

  90. Adam L. Says:

    NO MORE DRAFTED QBS. let’s bring in a veteran to take advantage of Martin’s versatility, Williams in his Prime and VJAX who seems VERY happy.

  91. Chris Says:

    People talking bout 0-3. The cardinals are a team on te rise with a good qb in Palmer. Arians is a great coach and they’re talented and experienced on both sides of the ball.

    0-4 into the bye week is very possible. Rob Ryan made a big statement last year about josh freeman. Saying he doesn’t see the whole field and all the defense needs to do is follow his eyes to the first read and he won’t come off it. That’s what the jets did yesterday. That’s wht Ryan’s defense did last year in Freeman’s abysmal 101 yd 30% completion performance.

    We are screwed next week if our offense performs like it did against the jets. To beat the saints you need to keep drew Brees off the field. No matter how good your defense is , Brees will put up 20+. Niners have an elite defense and Rodgers still put up 28.

  92. Capt. Tim Says:

    The team was unorganized and unable to excite plays. They were unprepared for audio equipment failures. They were unable to adjust their gam plan to compensate what Ryan was doine( I.e- running Martin straight up the middle- when it was obvious that Ryan had offset shifted the Dline to stop runs up the middle.

    Just like preseason- the team showed dozens of signs of being poorly coached. The WRs are still running into the same spot- which makes Josh’s job impossible

  93. Chris Says:

    Schiano is stubborn. No matter how many times Gerald McCoy says to stop the stunts schiano keeps with it. No matter how many times I myself and every nfl analysts and coaches around the league laugh about bucs dlineman running Into each other and the stunts never working , he won’t get rid of them.

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