Are The Bucs Better On Defense?

May 29th, 2013

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Weighing the losses of Roy Miller, Ronde Barber, Quincy Black and Michael Bennett versus the additions of Dashon Goldson rehabilitating Darrelle Revis, Derek Landri, Jonathan Casillaas and Akeem Spence, are the Bucs better on defense?

That question was on the mind of former Bucs quarterback Shaun King today. King, one of only three QBs to lead the Bucs to the NFC Championship game, doesn’t think the Bucs have improved.

“On the surface you look at that and you have to say, ‘No,'” King said on WDAE-AM 620 this morning.

King clarified a bit explaining that he has to see Revis play before he makes a full assessment. But interestingly, King was skeptical that Goldson will be a significant upgrade from Barber, especially without all the superstars in front of him that he had in San Francicsco.

Also, as Joe touched on yesterday, King wants to see what kind of tactician Greg Schiano is in Year 2.

“How does Schiano adjust his schemes and playcalling?” King asked, referring to how Bucs opponents will adjust after studying the first full season of the New Schiano Order Xs and Os.

Joe is on board with King’s takes here, except for the one on Goldson. It’s hard to believe Goldson won’t be better than Barber overall, though he might not be the same level of opportunistic playmaker Barber was.

And, as usual, King fired a shot at rockstar general manager Mark Dominik. King reminded listeners he considers Dominik a  “terrible talent evaluator.” King said he doesn’t give Dominik credit for trading for Darrelle Revis and paying him $16 million. Any GM could do that, King said.

Joe will deliver interesting QB takes from King later today.

80 Responses to “Are The Bucs Better On Defense?”

  1. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    “Joe will deliver interesting QB takes from King later today.”

    So you are saying avoid the site for today?

  2. MIKE Says:

    Deleted for hate speech. –Joe

  3. RyanTheMayor Says:

    King is the biggest HATER of all, its kinda crazy i dont understand how he has a job with NBC.

    How can u say the bucs defense hasnt improved??? We had the #1 Run Defense but the worst pass defense. Dominik added the #1 corner back in the league (he will be fine, medicine has advanced stop thinking in the past), he added and all pro safety to replace a 37 year old safety (Come’on MAN!), and he added the Jim Thorpe winner from last year. That should at the LEAST put us in the middle of the pack of pass defenses next year

    I really dont like Shaun King… He really needs to lay off of DOM, I think he did a very good job this offseason

  4. BucFanForever Says:

    Any GM could, only one GM did.

  5. mike Says:

    the thing I would agree with king is about the scheme. Looked like guys were put in a terrible postion last year with some of the play calling. Also, we have no depth and are banking huge on Bowers and clayborn , so there is reason to be a little worried.

  6. mike Says:

    @bucfanforever… only one gm had 16 milion to give to a cb.

  7. Seth B Says:

    When is the last time he said something positive about the Bucs? Did they take away the Press’ Buffet line or something?

    Dude loses all credibility with me. Next Topic, he isn’t sold on Doug Martin and Vincent Jackson is average at best. He hates the Bucs!

    Dominik must have done something to piss him off, he literally is trying to destroy morale. Zero Credibility! But it keeps me entertained…

  8. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    For those mentioning the “scheme” consider that Schiano had to scheme to try to cover the lack of secondary.

  9. Nick P Says:

    Dominik a “terrible talent evaluator”?? McCoy, Williams, Jackson, Nicks, Martin, David, Barron, Foster, Goldson, Revis (give him credit because he managed his cap to be in position for Goldson and Revis). This team has incredible talent. Crabtree commented the other day that there is no drop off in talent from GB to TB. There is more talent on this team than any team since the Super Bowl.

    Now getting the most out of that talent falls on the shoulders of the coaching staff and the individual player. We are loaded with talent, now we need production.

  10. Diehard_Bob Says:

    Shaun should change his name to “Shaun King Crab” because he always comes across like he is crabby and whining whenever talking about the Bucs. Most real experts have already said that the Bucs have possible the most improved defense “on paper” this offseason and of course no one will know for sure until they start playing. As far as Schiano adjusting his schemes, it was very evident that he kept tweaking the defense all season while feeling his way through his first year in the NFL and Barber said recently that we can expect to see more of what they did to beat the playoff bound Falcons in the final game, (not selling out to stop the run and beating a playoff team without a true starting corner). Bottom line, like all preseason predictions, it’s all guess work and we won’t know a thing till they start playing. In my opinion, I like what the team has done in the off season and I will be behind my team and stay optimistic until I have reason to believe otherwise. GO BUCS!!

  11. tampabaybucfan Says:

    Shaun King “One of the two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship game when his defense allowed 11 points or less”
    King didn’t know a good defense then and doesn’t know one when he sees it now.
    He will be eating his words and very fortunately for you, Shaun…words don’t have calories.

  12. robert Says:

    “King, one of only three QBs to lead the Bucs to the NFC Championship game, doesn’t think the Bucs have improved.”

    Joe-please drop that line……what is he sending you free sammiches or something? the guy sucked @ best when the D carried the team.

    Roy Miller – always hurt, had one decent year
    Ronde – lost 3 steps, still love the guy
    Bennett- torn rotator cuff for a DE?????
    Black – again had one decent year, and several unmemorable


    Best CB in the league by FAR who is rehabbing perfectly by all accounts and will be ready to go
    One of the best Safeties in Goldson
    Top tier CB drafted
    Spence – young, hungry, durable
    The other guys we shall see, but their rotational guys

    Not to mention they have changed the ENTIRE moral character of this team in just 2 off seasons. We’ve gone from THUGLIFE to BUSINESS.

    This truly is a sad article from a clearly pissed off person.

  13. Mac Kelley Says:

    ” King said he doesn’t give Dominik credit for trading for Darrelle Revis and paying him $16 million. Any GM could do that, King said.

    But only ONE did! As ALWAYS King has his opinion. We will see soon enough how this works out. It’s an interesting gamble, I believe for the Bucs an educated gamble. I have my opinion….I don’t see anyone playing NFL poker better than Dominick.

  14. Mike J Says:

    The short answer: pass D should better, run D could be worse.

  15. mikeck Says:

    SHOCKED!!! king is down on the Bucs. According to King, there hasnt been a Bucs player worth celibrating since…well….Shawn King!

  16. lightningbuc Says:

    UH OH, cue all the alleged “rock star” lovers making comments about King’s weight.

  17. J 2.0 Says:

    Queue the fat jokes and Shaun King haters ….

  18. Jim Says:

    Sean King is a total hater. Everyone else in sports is saying the Bucs are unquestionably better.

  19. BigSombrero Says:

    Haha, he doesn’t think we are better because we lost Miller, Black and Ronde (great career but wasn’t that player anymore). King has said a lot of dumb stuff, heck pretty much everything he says is dumb, but this takes the cake. More “”interesting” takes from King isn’t worth your time to even write Joe really. Anyone can see he’s either trolling or clueless.

  20. Justin Says:

    King is a chump. Go hit the gym fatso.

  21. Nick P Says:

    Go to Twitter NOW! Booger taking King to task!

  22. Christopher Says:

    I’m beyond sick of King. This defense will have a full year of Clayborn, out of his rookie year, a full year of Bowers (ditto), McCoy’s 2nd healthy year, David out of his rookie year, Barron out of his rookie year, Revis on one wheel is better than ANYBODY we had at CB, a full year of Wright, Foster in his 2nd year of the defense, & Spence should be at least equal to Miller. & what superstars was Goldston hiding behind? McCoy = J. Smith, & David can be Willis-esque. I know Shaun is paid to be a skeptic…I’m just glad I don’t have to listen to it.

  23. Tiny tim Says:

    All of you saying Ronde was no longer good/lost a step need to revisit that way of thinking. I don’t know if any of you watched the NFL top 100 players reaction show on the nfl network this weekend, but Barber was a guest for the entire hour. He was informed that if he had not retired, he would have been #55 on the list. Oh yea, they even showed him his clip/feature/highlights. That is above the #96 ranking that Goldson who made the pro-bowl received from his peers. Just saying.

    I am surprised Joe missed that.

  24. Oldguy Says:

    King is “sceptical” of something Schiano does? Give me a break. He is almost always sceptical and critical of Schiano’s moves. Nothing new or newsworthy here. Give him a rest please.

  25. Keirster Says:

    All I ever hear Shaun do is gripe, gripe, gripe. Isn’t it sad that he still has bad feelings toward the organization ( I am sure he denies this ) he hasn’t said a positive thing in quite some time. His radio show was the same way, I felt bad for Toby. Being around a blackhole of negativity saps peoples energy and makes them think your a sap. I realize he has to keep a certain perspective as a sports journalist, but come on man…LIGHTEN UP! Your attitude sucked in your second year and now you don’t play anymore. Get over it and get on board, true fans have no use for your sour grapes biased analysis.

  26. BigSombrero Says:

    Booger let him have it. Thank you Booger!

  27. Architek Says:

    King is losing all credibility with fans. He’s too attached as a media member. I’m confident he has superior football knowledge but why is the glass always half empty?

  28. McNabb2Barber Says:

    King just saying anything controversial trying to say relevant. Why does anybody care what King says?

  29. mpmalloy Says:

    Goldson not an improvement over a 38 year old Ronde Barber???


  30. J 2.0 Says:

    Shaun King, one of the only Buc QB’s to lead the line at Taco Bell overnight for the release of the Doritos Locos Taco.

  31. BigSombrero Says:

    Sad truth is, King should be kissing the ground the Glazers walk on. They gave him an opportunity to play the game he loved while no one else was dumb enough to do so.

  32. Biff Barker Says:

    King makes a valid point on the scheme. I saw a bit of the Father Dungy futility in Schiano by being unwilling to adapt last year. My personal opinion of King aside, this is a major issue.
    As far as talent on the roster, one large omission on King’s part is two adds are all-pro players, another a Thorpe award winner. We have a first round talent from a world class NFL football player factory emerging in his second year in the system. Mentors in house too. So Goldson will be less significant in Pewter because he plays behind scabs like Foster and David? Any mention of being the best run defense in the NFL? Nope. That small fact doesn’t serve his agenda.
    King remains intent on running down the Bucs because of his unwillingness to offer any positive moves the Bucs have made.
    Joe’s you are a fairly pragmatic scribe, your blanket endorsement of King puzzles me too. Don’t mind the coverage of Kings commentary, just the presictable negativity.

  33. J 2.0 Says:

    Shaun King, the only Buc QB to lead the team bus to an Arby’s before arriving at the stadium.

  34. J 2.0 Says:

    Shaun King, the only QB in Bucs history to lead the team in a hot dog eating contest.

  35. J 2.0 Says:

    Shaun King, the only QB in Bucs history to hold his own in a pie eating contest with NJ Governor Chris Christie.

  36. lightningbuc Says:

    To all those who insist every time there is a King article that Joe quit referencing him, one just has to look at the amount of comments generated to know that, if anything, Joe will reference King more rather than less. Go listen to Gene Deckerhoff if you want goody two-shoes Bucs takes!

  37. flmike Says:

    Take a look at what Dom and Schaino are doing with this D, they are turning it into a direct reflection of Schiano, each player drafted or signed since The Little General has arrived has come with an attitude and a desire to excel and each and everyone of them will drive you into the ground, hard, even the 4 that were here before TLG exhibit those qualities…I really like what I am seeing from this D, I think it’s really going to surprise some people this season.

  38. J 2.0 Says:

    Shaun King, the only QB in Buc history to embarass Adam Richman at a steakhouse.

  39. Warrenfb12 Says:

    Nobody cares Joe. Stop posting Kings s*** on here.

  40. Warrenfb12 Says:

    He is basically Scott Reynolds working for NBC.

  41. BamBamBuc Says:

    Actually, King is right. The Bucs haven’t taken the field in a regular season game this year yet, so as of right now they are no better than they were last year. They have different personnel, but until they actually play it is unclear if they are better or not. Not saying Revis is the same as Asomughua, but it is possible the highest rated available DB goes to a new team and isn’t as successful as he was with his previous team. Possibly due to scheme or due to players around him, but it is possible that neither Goldson or Revis will be the players in Tampa they were in the past. Which means that as of right now, the Bucs are no better on defense (although likely not worse off either)

  42. Dave Says:

    I get different opinions
    I get saying things to drum up a response
    I even get being bitter
    BUT King is brodering on ridiculous with how negative he always seems.
    I am done with him.
    I will never again read or comment on any article to do with him.
    Sorry Joe, but I do not frequent Buc sites to see someone constantly bash my team and those running it. I am not saying you or anyone else needs to gloss over or hide from bad press, far from it, we want the truth (yes, we can handle it), but King is absurd with how negative he always is.
    I wipe my hands of him

  43. Grassi Says:

    King was a bad quarterback and added nothing to that playoff team. Tampa’s defense took him to the NFC championship- don’t be seduced simply by the fact that he was the quarterback, Joe.

  44. Bobby Says:

    Of course….everyone else has us going from last on pass D to one of the top 3 in the NFL but in Kings eyes we haven’t improved. Somehow I think I value Mayock’s opinion of Dom as a talent evaluator and Mayock thinks Dom is one of the best. We don’t need to have the #1 run defense in the league to be a fearsome defense. We could be in the top 5 in both run and pass D and be ferocious.

    King is a terrible talent evaluator. If he looks at this roster and thinks other teams don’t have chills going down their spine thinking about Gerald McCoy, Clayborn, and Bowers on the front line and then Revis, Goldson, Barron and Banks in the secondary then he just doesn’t have a clue. If Spence pans out like I think he will this is going to be a very difficult defense to game plan for.

    @BamBam…neither Revis nor Goldson are ‘scheme players’. These guys are just great players and Goldson will just flat out hurt you. He and Barron will scare the %$@@! out of receivers.

  45. J 2.0 Says:

    @ BamBamBuc

    It is also possible that they will be one of the best defenses in Bucs history. It’s also possible that I will become the richest man in America one day. It’s possible that pigs will in fact evolve and develop wings. It’s also possible that Return of the Living Dead is based on a true story.

    Point is your argument further cements King as wrong not right. Based on your argument the only way King can be correct is if he said “I don’t know.” Those 3 words in that grouping do not exist in King’s vocabulary. “I don’t know” is the smartest thing someone can say sometimes.

  46. TBuc_40 Says:

    Every time I see one of these lame articles from the very biased King, I’m not going to come to this site for a week (Maybe Joe will see that Kings articles are trash in every way). This is the same guy that said firing Raheem Morris was a horrible move!

    If you want to have a truly good BucsFan website, how about post articles from people with credibility and stop adding the stupid ass nicknames to every person you write about.

    See you guys next week!!

  47. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    How convenient that he would like to see how Revis turns out before making an “official” assessment. He talks on Twitter how (in hindsight of course) he knew Wright/Nicks were bad signings because it would, ” . . . put us behind the 8 ball at corner going forward . . . ”

    I guess Dom should have borrowed King’s magic crystal ball to see that BOTH of his starting corners would miss the majority of the season. (To injury, suspension, or trade.) I don’t seem to remember him saying the above at the time of those transactions but I may have missed it. Either that or he “knew” and kept it to himself. (Also, very convenient.)

    Is there really questions about McCoy? Certainly not about his talent. When the man is on the field he is one of the best in the league. He has had injury issues in the past but what more can he do to silence the injury critics than play a full pro bowl season perfectly healthy? Clayborn is not too far behind. He had an outstanding rookie season and missed his second one but looks like anything but a bust. Same with Barron and even Freeman. Think about the Jets right now. They just brought in a second round QB that is most likely going to start ahead of a QB drafted well ahead of Freeman in the same draft. We could do much worse than Freeman right now.

    Look, it is obvious that King thinks he is unbiased. He certainly tries to be. But he is not. The man has bagged on Dom from day one and discredits every single good move the man has made while magnifying the smallest of mistakes. I can’t be the only one that sees this? Does Dom REALLY get no credit for having the balls to gamble on Revis? Could ANY GM really have done it with a guy coming off an injury like his?

  48. Mitch Says:

    Anyone else see that Cody Grimm was arrested?? … Wonder if he’s gone now..

  49. Gus Says:

    McFarland is taking him to town on twitter!

  50. Rob Says:

    “Burger” King is a blow hard, washed up, bafoon. Ignore his mindless rants and laugh him off like I do. Go Bucs!

  51. robert Says:

    well joe, you just lost one follower posting this crap. if I wanted this I would go to perez Hiltons site

  52. the_buc_realist Says:

    Is king the biggest “hater” of the Bucs? Or is he just accurately forecasting the Bucs year after year????

  53. TimBukTwo@OneBucPalace Says:

    King is nothing but a big attention whore. He has to go against the grain to get his fix just like this guy above^^^^^^

  54. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    ^^^Its funny because its true!!!^^^

  55. Couch Fan Says:

    Can’t wait for the season to start. Will be interesting to hear from King if the Bucs have one of the top defenses this year.

  56. Erik(EasyE)Wright Says:


    I’m with ya on that.

  57. Vern4499 Says:


    You know you and I agree on a lot of things. So I have to tell you that I listened when he was on the radio and he had nothing but praise for Freeman. It surprised me how much he liked him. That being said I don’t agree with most of what King has to say so I don’t know if him praising Josh is a good thing or a bad thing. But please keep telling these guys how it is.

  58. Cbell96825 Says:

    This guy is a fat slob and needs to shut up I will never forget him throwing the damn ball into the 17th row on 4th down againts the rams in the nfc championship game at least throw it in bounds you piece of crap.

  59. Couch Fan Says:

    Wow, Cbell. Take some valieum or something. It’s just a game. King may of not been a very good QB but he tried sheesh. he doesn’t disserve that kind of hate simply because he isnt a fan of The Rock Star.

  60. WestCoastBucsFan Says:


    I can tell you exactly why he praises Freeman. It is the reason I get bashed here all the time. It is because Raheem had A LOT to do with Freeman becoming a Buccaneer. Shaun King firmly believes that Raheem should have stayed and that Dom should have been fired in 2011. If Freeman succeeds and becomes elite this season I am positive King will go on to say that Freeman was all Raheem’s decision and if Freeman fails he will just chalk it up to “another Dom failure”.

    You can bank on it.

  61. BamBamBuc Says:

    Goldson may be good, he may not. In San Francisco he had a pretty incredible front 7 that got pressure on the QB and stopped the run, often without the help of a safety in the box. That’s not scheme, that’s personnel.

    Revis is coming off a major knee surgery. No matter the reports that say he’s “ahead of schedule” or “will be ready to go week 1”, there exists the possibility of him not being ready, or playing at a limited level or in a limited capacity. It is also possible the knee gets reinjured if rushed. That’s not scheme or personnel, that’s injury. If he’s healthy, and the Bucs ask him to play more zone than man, that’s scheme and it’s a scheme that may test him some as he’s more of a man CB. That’s much of what happened with Asomugha.

    Spence isn’t proven at all, no telling if he’s better than Miller or not. Casillas hasn’t done much as a backup. Depth on the D-line could be an issue, especially if the injury bug rears it’s ugly head again.

    And, yes, it’s possible none of that happens and the D is awesome this year. But until we see them week one, I only see personnel changes, not improvement.

  62. Kalind Says:

    This clown is really starting to aggravate me. Now, I know his (only) Schtick is to skewer the bucs, but it’s time to lay off Dom. The guy is a tremendous GM. If not THE best. As another on here said, every GM could, one did (land Revis).

    I find it interesting that King takes long absences from commenting. In my humble (albeit frustrated) opinion, I believe King takes this time to search for and eventually find a raw nerve, solely for the purposes of tweaking, not for any sort of enlightenment or insight. He is a charlatan and a knave. Pay him less heed than you all already do. He’s just trying to rule you up.

    It. Is. His. Only. Thing. And it’s time for it to stop. (He’s worthless as an analyst. I mean, my 10 year old nephew has thought up some of this alrdy.)

  63. Erik(EasyE)Wright Says:


    strong opinion but king has stated on his twitter that FACT:the bucs defense will not be better. I’m all for hearing someone’s opinion but don’t speak factually about something until the fat lady sings.

  64. James Buc 22 Says:

    Something suggests Shaun King is not a big fan of Mark Dominik. However, he does have good points and is a natural contrarian I can tolerate.

  65. jjtixs Says:


  66. Bobsdoghouse Says:

    1st thing…, Shaun King didn’t lead anything.. It was the defense, that lead the Bucs… Couldn’t score 12 points in the game…Shaun King was and is not a leader and never will be.. When he is on the radio I change the channel, and this is the 1st article that I have read about him in a very long time. He is hateful and thinks the Bucs own him for something, when in fact he owes Dungy everything. No other coach would have made him a starter. He was a 3rd stringer at best..There are to many people out there that have great knowledge of the game, why waste time reading or listening to S. K.

  67. Couch Fan Says:

    Lol I find it funny that every King article joe writes up gets some many comments and most comments say the same thing over and over. Keep em comin Joe!

  68. TOM Says:

    I guess, there is a sign in front of One Bucs Palace….said. No Shaun Kings allow! that’s why he hate the Bucs….He can’t get into the building…..

  69. Ander Says:

    Not nice. Deleted. Adds no value.–Joe

  70. Bobby Says:

    OK BamBam…. so you think adding two pro bowlers and a top CB coming out of college does nothing to improve our defense except change personnel.
    OOOOOOKKKKKKKKK. I suppose you could be right. Our trainers and doctors could be totally wrong and Revis could be walking on a trashed knee. All the cuts and running he’s doing during rehab is just an illusion…like it was for Adrian Peterson. Goldson could turn out to be a pansy who shies away from contact and can’t cover a 5th string receiver. Haven’t seen that but hey….he’s just ‘personnel’ and we know that means nothing. I’m sure that Roy Miller and Michael Bennett being gone with cause us to go from first to last in run D because we all know that Bennett was best known for stopping the run and not his sack total. And Miller?? Totally irreplaceable. How can we do without him? You’re right…on second thought you make perfect sense. We’re doomed.

  71. Fritz50 Says:

    “Of course….everyone else has us going from last on pass D to one of the top 3 in the NFL ”

    Evidently not everyone , Bucs Nation says that the Vegas odds makers have the over/under on Bucs wins at 7…doesn’t seem all that much better than 2012. Still , we get 2 pro bowl guards back sign 3 defensive backs that are all better than what we had last year, and we end up with 7 wins?…not sure I see it.

  72. Adam Says:

    Dominik is a terrible talent evaluator. I agree 100%. And someone posted above:

    Dominik a “terrible talent evaluator”?? McCoy, Williams, Jackson, Nicks, Martin, David, Barron, Foster, Goldson, Revis (give him credit because he managed his cap to be in position for Goldson and Revis).

    McCoy, Martin, and David had 1 good year. Just like Michael Clayton.

    Barron was a reach and a reach when there were other needs (like CB).

    Foster is a “starter” and that’s all I can say.

    Everyone else on the list is a free agent or trade which means someone ELSE evaluated that talent.

  73. WestCoastBucsFan Says:


    You’re saying that signing free agents requires zero talent evaluation skills? It really takes nothing to sign a productive free agent? Nhamdi was supposed to be a slam dunk for the Eagles and now Reid is coaching for the Chiefs. Haynesworth was supposed to be the best DT to hit free agency since Reggie White. How did that turn out?

    You are foolish if you think it is that easy to evaluate free agents.

  74. Adam Says:

    You’re basically going on the résumé. Where is Dominik’s late round discovery? Where is the diamond in the rough?

    This the man who EXTENDED Michael Clayton- someone who did NOTHING his whole career.

    This is the man who traded up for Luke Stocker.

    This is the man who has wasted 2nd round draft picks for 3 of 4 years.

    Throwing money at all-pros and pro bowlers is easy.

  75. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    How convenient you leave out Mike Williams, Gerald McCoy, David, Martin, etc.

    Clayton? Really? Your just like the rest of the haters complaining about stuff from four years ago.

    It is 2013 by the way.

  76. Adam L. Says:

    @WCBF… I actually mentioned all those guys in the post BEFORE my last post which is what triggered the response. I did leave out Williams. Here’s what I wrote:

    “McCoy, Martin, and David had 1 good year. Just like Michael Clayton.

    Barron was a reach and a reach when there were other needs (like CB).

    Foster is a “starter” and that’s all I can say. (so is Mike Williams)”

    It is 2013. I am aware. I am also aware that Twitter and texting has dumbed down our writing skills and has made “your” and “you’re” interchangeable which grinds my gears to no end.

  77. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Grammar nazi. I made the last post from my phone. Either way, you are complaining about productive rookies and four year old transactions.

  78. Adam L. Says:

    YEAH…so? When you buy a gun they look at your criminal record. Not just the last 12 months.

    I can only go by Dominik’s track record. Now if he has 3 years of drafting success to cancel out the FIRST three years, we can talk.

  79. BigMacAttack Says:

    I had some serious hate speech for the Burger King but I’ll refrain. The one time I saw Spawn Ping on PFT with Florio, I turned off the tube and took a crap. Much more informative and rewarding.

  80. scubog Says:

    Shaun King would have a lot more credibility with me if he didn’t always put a negative spin on everything. If Mark Dominik said Cindy Crawford was pretty, Shaun King would quickly point out the mole. Any truth to the rumor that the weight clause in Donald Penn’s contract is to weigh less than Shaun King?