Rams At Bucs, Open Thread

December 23rd, 2012

OK boys and girls, we have the final 2012 home game for the Bucs as they host the Rams, fittingly blacked out locally because the Bucs are out of the playoffs.

Feel free to bang on your keyboard here during the game. As always, do not post a URL of an illegal, pirated video feed of the game but you are welcome to share the link with other of Joe’s readers via e-mail.


368 Responses to “Rams At Bucs, Open Thread”

  1. bucobruce Says:

    Lets go Bucs show some heart the last 2 games!Bucs 27 Rams 13


  2. Eric Says:

    Let’s get that higher draft choice for rock! Then he can hold another press conference describing his new beasts and steals!

    Can cut the excitement with a knife!

  3. ladyz Says:

    This set of downs will tell the story.

  4. canadianbuc Says:

    Freeman really has to us something today

  5. PRBucFan Says:

    We absolutely have to do everything possible to draft Dee Millinar

  6. ladyz Says:

    Thank you for the sneak.

  7. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Good spot. Why did they have to measure?

  8. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Looks like they’re going to make Freeman beat them. Uh Oh!

  9. PRBucFan Says:

    Seems like Jekel is showing up today.

  10. Gus Says:

    Looks like Freeman is betting them. Uh oh

  11. Gus Says:

    Looks like Freeman is betting them. Uh oh

  12. PRBucFan Says:

    As he should beat the Rams.
    Until Jekel shows up an entire season nothing will be certain.

  13. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    3 Pts

  14. BucNeckid Says:


  15. PRBucFan Says:

    We all know FG’s win games.

  16. ladyz Says:

    Should have been “7”

  17. BucNeckid Says:

    better than ZERO
    like last week

  18. Ian's Gay Lisp & Ron's Drinking Problem Says:

    Ted Larsen “Mr False Start” ……thank god he wont be playing next year

  19. raphael Says:

    lol …..at all you jerk band wagon Freeman haterz…

  20. PRBucFan Says:

    Whelp seems like we may have out a package together to trade up for Dee Millinar

  21. raphael Says:

    pr buc ..the only thing certain is you act like 12 yr old..

  22. canadianbuc Says:

    wow how did we not come up with that

  23. PRBucFan Says:

    Oh my goodness. How the hell does our defense not land on that

  24. GenocideD Says:

    Attaboy LJ turning to look for the ball!

  25. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Nice tackle, Biggars

  26. PRBucFan Says:

    I don’t think they run on the D today.

  27. SacBucs Says:

    We better f-ing win!

  28. McBuc Says:

    LD is looking good…

  29. McBuc Says:

    WOW, over all this defense sucks. I cannot beleive you guys keep bashing Freeman. The defense is the problem.

  30. canadianbuc Says:

    If they score here……………….JUST FALL ON THE BALL!!!! But no our dumb ass D tries to pick it up and go to the endzone what idiots

  31. raphael Says:

    McBuc…exactly, you would think the clueless crybabies would be cring about the Defense, which cost us 4 games this year

  32. McBuc Says:

    Nice INT…

  33. canadianbuc Says:

    EHHHHH the guy can catch that but not one right in his hands

  34. ladyz Says:

    What a catch.

  35. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Gorrer caught one? OMG!!

  36. PRBucFan Says:

    First off your wrong, there are areas within the D that are atrocious but the entire defense is not. Secondly, do you honestly think that just because the defense has areas that present major problems that somehow dismisses the other problems on this team? Negative Ghost Rider

  37. McBuc Says:

    PR…You are right about the defense…moment of emotion. The secondary is really bad. I still stand by Freeman.

  38. McBuc Says:

    PR, we just had a week of almost non stop Freeman bashing…The pass defense is by far the biggest issue.

  39. PRBucFan Says:

    I hear ya

  40. Architek Says:

    Freeman pick 6! LOL

  41. McBuc Says:

    PR…LOL, maybe I spoke too soon.

    Oho…We better hope Penn can still play.

  42. ladyz Says:

    Oh no… Say it’s not so!

  43. PRBucFan Says:

  44. Architek Says:

    No McBuc and PRbuc Freeman is much deserving of all the criticism did you just see that pick 6 off the back foot?

  45. 911bucs Says:

    Love – hate relationship

  46. raphael Says:

    cue the morons ..

  47. FloridaGirl Says:

    Sigh….here we go again

  48. Architek Says:

    I’m tired of saying this but Freeman is horrid.

  49. raphael Says:

    williams fell down….thats on # 19

  50. PRBucFan Says:

    @McBuc Maybe lol
    But honestly im just gonna let everything play out, nothing speaks louder than than the film.

  51. Buccin cane Says:

    I noticed that after the scripted plays or openers whatever u wanna call them….this offense really looks lost at times…my question would be is this mod of a Freeman thin or a Sullivan thing

  52. Kirk Says:

    Ohhh, Freeman really is something isn’t he?

  53. raphael Says:

    your just stupid architect …Freeman will be just fine..

  54. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    WTF!! Was that Mr Hyde?

  55. McBuc Says:

    Arch…WIlliams slipped and fell, so that was a bad luck deal.

    Oh, and PR is on your side of the argument, we just are not calling eachother names over it…

  56. McBuc Says:

    Guys, Mike Williams fell daown! What was Freeman going to do, wdraw his gun and shoot the ball pout of the air!

  57. bucobruce Says:

    The bucs will win,if they dont I will come on this site everyday to just say Im stupid.They will win trust me guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FREEMAN will step it up.

  58. MadMax Says:

    Gosh Freeman….wow.

    Keep reaching free fans. The more you hold to not replacing him, the more I call BS on your arguments for keeping him.

  59. PRBucFan Says:

    Oh I know lol. I’m avidly verbal about it. Of course that was on Mike *sarcasm
    Just like the announcer said He can’t wait that long to throw that ball, waited for him to break

  60. McBuc Says:

    That is why LB is not starting!

  61. JJ1977 Says:

    only 4 more interceptions and you will beat last weeks record!! Freeman.
    Draft a QB in the three round,it can’t hert.

  62. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    LGB whiffed

  63. raphael Says:

    Blount totally missed that block ! dam!

  64. Architek Says:

    Yeah McBuc I saw that, you’re right, he had that happen too much so he catches the heat but rightfully so. Unfortunately Freeman lost me after week one. I know you all are optimistic for Freeman but he has that David Carr feel as a head case for me with all the tools. Sad situation…

  65. MadMax Says:

    Ok, Williams, fell, I’ll give him a pass on that.

  66. McBuc Says:

    You guys better hope we do not have to see our back up come in…How about blocking someone out there…

  67. McBuc Says:

    Achiteek…I sure hope you are wrong, we will see within the next year.

  68. McBuc Says:

    Please do not blame Freeman on a holding call now guys…The refs missed another one.

  69. Architek Says:

    PR and McBuc if freeman could throw deep every play he would be better off. My God LGB blocking looks like he’s a crash test dummy.

  70. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    6 pts The back up looked pretty good last week

  71. PRBucFan Says:

    We need all the lower seeds to win this week for our draft status.

  72. FloridaGirl Says:

    Can’t win with FGs….must score TDs….

  73. SacBucs Says:

    Gud stuff Barth Vader

  74. raphael Says:

    LMAO At the david carr comparison…..lol

  75. Patrick Says:

    Wow Freeman threw a pick six already!! I’M SO SURPRISED.

  76. canadianbuc Says:

    wow we could finish the season last in the NFC South smfh

  77. PRBucFan Says:

    Well we have two of the best WR’s in the game at jump balls. We’ll win a majority of the deep passes in their vicinity.

  78. McBuc Says:

    LGB is clearly a liability.

    Nice job Defense…Prove me wrong guys.

  79. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    The Bucs have the worst QB in the NFC South. He throws a lot of jump balls

  80. McBuc Says:

    I never thought I would say this…Oh crap Biggers is out. Who the hell is in for him?

  81. PRBucFan Says:

    I absolutely love LD what a gem.
    What y’all think about putting him at MLB?

  82. McBuc Says:

    Miguel, CAR has the worst, our is second to last.

  83. bucobruce Says:

    Freeman is going to prove u all wrong starting right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. Architek Says:

    Oh Gosh another INT.

  85. PRBucFan Says:

    Also I have a feeling Martin is about to bust one.

  86. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    That’s 2

  87. 1976Buc Says:

    How many white jerseys were there? Wow!

  88. McBuc Says:

    Wow, IO cannot defend that one…

  89. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Who fell down that time?

  90. raphael Says:

    oh its the end of the world now…….oh no a qb through an int…

  91. ladyz Says:

    Another pic… Josh get your head out of where the sun doesn’t shine.

  92. PRBucFan Says:

    Definitely proved us wrong.

  93. Justin Says:

    OK, THAT was all Freeman’s fault.

  94. Architek Says:

    PRBuc that’s why I get so vexed because a solid to good QB with these weapons would be deadly.

  95. raphael Says:

    it happens ..

  96. Justin Says:

    6 INTs in two weeks. Enough to drive you mad.

  97. SacBucs Says:

    Josh is looking horrible!

  98. JJ1977 Says:

    Three more to go, to reach five INT’s

  99. Rrsrq Says:

    It’s hard trying defend Josh

  100. PRBucFan Says:

    @McBuc I definitely respect you as a fan. Not like some of the homers on this board.

  101. Architek Says:

    LOL, I guess blame it on Ruud! He’ll why not…

  102. Justin Says:

    Who are the announcers for this game?

  103. bucobruce Says:

    It all starts now,Freeman is about to light it up.He will prove u all wrong!!!!!

  104. canadianbuc Says:

    Freemans just a big loser we need a winner and i dont thinkfreeman will ever be a winner

  105. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Why try to defend him? Every time someone says he’s going to prove us wrong, he does the opposite. Say something bad about him, maybe he’ll throw a TD.

  106. raphael Says:

    architek….Freeman is much better than a solid to good qb…

  107. PRBucFan Says:

    I’m not asking for him to be elite. I just want him to he consistently average. Consistent being the main word.

  108. PRBucFan Says:

    We have to get some sacks.

  109. PRBucFan Says:

    That looked like a Free pass.

  110. McBuc Says:

    Bradford does not look much better, and our defense is not as good as theirs.

  111. 911bucs Says:

    Why all the sudden the last 6 games or so Freeman’s interceptions went up? There’s got to be a disconnect somewhere. I mean usually players get better as the season Goes on .

  112. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    This is called effective clock management and a TD.

  113. McBuc Says:

    Well, that sucks…

    It is all good PR, we are all looking for the same result. I just think we need a consitant shceme before we caqn expect consistant play.

  114. Rrsrq Says:

    Turnovers take the wind out the team, I don’t believe the team has packed it in, they just realize that when the O can’t put points on the board anymore, it’s deflating on both sides of the ball.

  115. Patrick Says:

    @raphael……..get real, Freeman has been sh!t for 5 weeks and he’s thrown SIX interceptions in 2 weeks. Quit being so blind about Freeman’s f’k ups.

  116. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Raphael is it possible to remove your lips from Free’s ass? Just long enough so you can watch the game and see how horrid he plays a large majority of the time.

  117. PRBucFan Says:

    I see where you coming from.

    Honestly earlier on in the season many of the would be picks repeatedly were dropped by DB’s but it does definitely cause concern.

  118. raphael Says:

    lol it happens ….Freeman is a stud qb and will be here for long time..

  119. McBuc Says:

    911, it is really just the last 2 games.

  120. PRBucFan Says:

    Is it possible to block specific posters?

  121. ladyz Says:


  122. PRBucFan Says:

    Amen lol

  123. raphael Says:

    silence…you have it backwards..majority of the time he plays great…sometimes not….it takes time thats all

  124. MadMax Says:

    Need to draft a QB or try to get Weeden from the Browns. I’ll bet we could get the Jets 1st and 2nd round for Gosh. Do it!

  125. raphael Says:

    @prbuc so you are 12 yrs old huh…

  126. Jarret Says:

    All those tools arent fixing anything today. Maybe because he doesnt have the tools everyone gives him credit for. Being big doesnt win you games. Being accurate does.

  127. McBuc Says:

    INT only count if the DB makes the play, just like passes only count if the WR catches it.

    This is not as fun to watch as it was before the Saints game. I hope they can pull it together.

  128. raphael Says:

    madmax Freeman will be our sterter for the next 8 to 10 yrs….including SB…

  129. Rowan55 Says:

    Freeman stock keeps going down…2 picks and a fumble already! not looking good here…can’t see this team win this or next game

  130. Architek Says:

    Well on the positive side the defense is playing better…

  131. raphael Says:

    fans are so fanatical……smh

  132. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Sadly Raphael you have it backwards, he does not play well most of the time. His stats are meaningless if you would watch the games without the blinders on. I use to be all for Free being the QB of the future but after 4 years of the same thing repeatedly, I just dont think he’s ever going to amount to anything. Fortunately for him he has another year to prove us wrong.

  133. MadMax Says:

    @raphael, does that make you 14? You act like it by calling out other’s ages on here….thats middle school stuff…grow the FK up boy!

  134. Architek Says:

    LOL thanks for addressing that person.

  135. PRBucFan Says:

    Fair enough @McBuc
    Was just pointing out the passes never really changed just the other factors did.

  136. Patrick Says:

    @raphael……..you seriously should shut up right now. You’re making me laugh! ….with the way Freeman and this team is playing, you should like an idiot right now. Super Bowl?? In your dreams!

  137. raphael Says:

    architect …. our defense ? or the other teams ?

  138. PRBucFan Says:


  139. raphael Says:

    patrick…nope all you clowns that don’t know jack about football ,look like idiots…

  140. raphael Says:

    perfect game for Freeman to get his 11th 4th qtr comeback in…

  141. MadMax Says:

    lol, Im with you PR, wish we could block ignorance.

  142. tim Says:

    Not pretty Stuff from Freeman and the offense. Couple bad decisions on his part. Trying to do to much with no help from O-line and rushing game.

  143. Patrick Says:

    Hmmm………the quarterback you say is gonna lead us to the Super Bowl, couldn’t even score once against the WORST defense (other than ours) in the NFL last week!

  144. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    This is a typical Freeman first half minus the ints.

  145. Kirk Says:

    Looks like a 6-10 year. Yay team!

  146. PRBucFan Says:

    Unfortunately I don’t think there is Block list

  147. Ed Says:

    My question is, has Josh improved over these 3 1/2 years as a starter. I don’t see how anyone can be happy with an NFL QB completing less than 60% of their throws. You have to finish drives and keep the chains moving. I would guess his ability to keep drives going forward is the main weakness, that’s why we kick a lot of field goals.

  148. Mr Lucky Says:

    Oh yeah Freeman the losing franchise QB

    I can smell a top five draft pick coming up.

  149. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Anyone watching with an unbias eye can tell you the clear answer to that is no. He still has the same problems he had back when he was a rookie. No part of his game has improved. His stats have but thats due more to the weapons around him than his actual play regardless of what the “real knowledgeable fans” say.

  150. raphael Says:

    that was Josh freemans fault for sure….

  151. MadMax Says:

    Our need for a new QB goes up every time Gosh steps onto the field today. Keep doing it Josh, i mean Gosh, lose it for us so we get a better draft position.

  152. Rrsrq Says:

    Ok, that wasn’t Free’s fault

  153. Mr Lucky Says:

    Hey Ed, Freeman is great for keeping drives going for the opposing teams!

    Josh has certainly improved since his 2010 season right? NOT!

    Say what you want I’m wishing for Tebow next year

  154. Patrick Says:

    If you want a QB that’s great at getting 3 and outs and loses against any team with a winning record, Freeman is the QB you want!

  155. raphael Says:

    @ Ed…lol for your info…Josh is 2 tds from the all time records for in a season and all time…your guys stupidity is hilarious..

  156. snook Says:

    Bucs are the worst team in the NFC. Convince me otherwise.

  157. PRBucFan Says:

    What sucks is that now we are goin to try and lean on Free Free and run it alot less 🙁

  158. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Pick #3

  159. 911bucs Says:

    Going to be one heck of a 4th quarter comeback now.

  160. MadMax Says:

    Btw, I dont hate Josh, I just hate the fact that we’re probably going to continue sticking with him….SOOOOO….that begs the question, ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE HIM OR NOT DOMINIK ? ? ? ? ?
    If not, maybe YOU need to be replaced!

  161. PRBucFan Says:

    Bahahahaha Please please please coach do something

  162. raphael Says:

    Mike williams needs to get his head in the game….

  163. Patrick Says:

    If this were week 6, this 2012 team would have a 10 game losing streak!! Lucky for us, it’s week 16.

  164. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Lmao @ Raph

    That means nothing when everyone knows we have a horrible history of mediocre play at the QB position. Josh has the most talented offense we’ve ever had and you are implying he’s a stud because he holds a meaningless record? That’s pretty ignorant of you and proves my case that you are clinging to any excuse you can find to excuse your boys awful play Lol.

  165. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Freeman is a coach killer, if they don’t make a move, Schiano and the Rockstar get canned

  166. Mr Lucky Says:

    I’m dreaming that well drop Freeman
    Just like the QB’s of old
    With the football whistling
    And defenses picking
    Those passes back into the end zone

    I’m dreaming that they’ll get Tebow
    When he’s available next year
    Sure he throws a bad ball
    But he still will stands tall
    And run for the winning score

  167. Rrsrq Says:

    Eventually the Bucs will learn to run twice, throw once instead of throw twice and run once, putting the game inFree’s hand early has not Ben productive lately. He stares receivers down way to often.

  168. Patrick Says:

    Remember guys, Raheem was the one that wanted Freeman. Getting player analysis from Raheem is like getting a gun lesson from Plaxico Burress!

  169. Tuco Says:

    Raphael is trolling. He honestly doesn’t believe Freeman is elite.

  170. raphael Says:

    wah wah wah ! bunch of crybabies

  171. Trey Says:

    what are we at now 8 turnovers in two games? Maybe Free can get to 10 :/

  172. raphael Says:

    Tuco….he is and I am not…..its a TEAM game bro, get a clue

  173. 911bucs Says:

    Plus tebow would draw more ticket sales I bet. Thus less blackouts

  174. Mr Lucky Says:

    Problem with Freeman is we won’t even be able to get a 4 th round draft pick for him

  175. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Good one, Patrick

  176. Gt40bear Says:

    Turnover machne strikes again. If the Bucs are going to stick with Josh next year and into the future, they need to get him out now before his head is irrepairably screwed! This is beyond bad quarterbacking, he’s turning into a headcase before our very ears.

  177. MadMax Says:

    @Mr Lucky….Tebow is going to the Jaguars.

  178. Rrsrq Says:

    This is looking a lot like last year, culture change?

  179. Patrick Says:

    Wilson, RGIII, Luck, are all outplaying whittle Joshua Freeman, and they’re ROOKIES! Enough said!

  180. PRBucFan Says:

    Giving the ball to Martin every down will give us a better chance to win lol.
    Atleast our draft status is getting helped.

  181. Mr Lucky Says:

    @patrick lol
    Getting player analysis from Raheem is like asking Taliban for drug advice or anger management advice

  182. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    KC Chiefs have the stupidest GM and owner in the NFL

    They’ll trade their 1st and 2nd pick for Gosh

  183. Buccin cane Says:

    Can somebody plz tell me why the hell the ball is on the 5 yd line and the damn corners are standing on the goaline no press coverage whatsoever

  184. Architek Says:

    This is tough because it seems like Freeman failures is sucking the life out of the team…

    But make no mistake this defense is very bad on the back end. But how do you fight when every time you look up the ball is going the opposite direction or three and out.

  185. snook Says:

    Freeman is the worst qb in the NFC other than the Arizona tools.

  186. PRBucFan Says:

    Absolutely correct

  187. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    This is great clock management

  188. Gt40bear Says:

    Quitters, the lot of them. After 36 years of putting up with this crap, if they don’t shed ALL the quitters on this team during the off-season, I’m done. Life is too short to be pissed off EVERY Sunday.

  189. MadMax Says:

    I say we go for the best corner 1st, and then Aaron Murray or Glennon if available and we can somehow trade into it to get them. Or if Weeden becomes a play from the Browns.

  190. MTM Says:

    At some point this has to fall back on Schiano and Dominick. This team started out playing well and has been spiraling towards the drain the last 5 games.

  191. Patrick Says:

    WTFFFFF 28-6!! Damn…..everytime I go to take a piss, I come back and Bucs are suddenly getting blown out!!

  192. FloridaGirl Says:


  193. pewterpirate99 Says:


    AMEN BROTHER!!!! I agree with you completely. Ralph stop looking at DoDo Freeman through your pewter and red colored glasses and see him for what he truly is…….a inaccurate midiocore quarter back, who is consistantly inconsistant.

  194. Rrsrq Says:

    Finally, yes

  195. Architek Says:

    I like Schiano.

  196. PRBucFan Says:

    Great job Mikey, finally Free Free does something with all that time.

  197. Patrick Says:

    Nice TD by Freeman. Still doesn’t make up for the 3 interceptions he’s already thrown.

  198. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    If (and a big if) Aaron Murry fell into the 2nd round, the Bucs would be fools not to pick him to at least give Free a push. But I wouldnt take any QB in the first round this year.

  199. Gus Says:

    What’s wrong with supporting your qb good or bad. I’m rooting for freeman on a good day and a bad one. If he isn’t a buccaneer 2 years from now then I wish him the best and root for the next qb just as hard. I have no hate for freeman he has things he needs to improve on but has all the potential in the world

  200. raphael Says:

    Josh Freeman has just tied for the club record ALL TIME for td’s….and he is 24 yrs old…. you guys look really stupid bout now..

  201. Patrick Says:

    @raphael……..yeah he tied the record because all the quarterbacks in Bucs history have been sh!t/or only stick around for a few years.

  202. Trey Says:

    Gus- I as well as many others get tired of hearing about his tools. I want to root for the guy I really do but he has all the weapons you could ask for and has NO EXCUSE for his recent production.

  203. Macabee Says:

    Mr. Lucky,

    In case you’ve been looking for me, I’ve been hiding under the bleachers! lol.

    Can’t defend the indefensible!

  204. MadMax Says:

    Its known that Schiano has little patience with QB’s. I hope he proves that right after this game. Now dont get me wrong, he and Dom will hide it, but they hopefully know the deal here.

    Free had every opportunity available to him this season…new RB thats kicking ass, new Reciever thats kicking ass, new O line addition, who got injured, but even their backups are kicking ass…..VJax was even signed with the amount being 55,555,555 to show that Dom and the owners are behind him. And he does this ? ? ? ?

    Time to cut losses while theres still a little value!

  205. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    I think Raph wet himself when Josh threw a TD to go along with his 3 ints. He was just waiting for him to do something right. Lol

  206. Rrsrq Says:

    Can the d get out in 3

  207. PRBucFan Says:

    Bahahahaha somehow that actually means something? Wins, playoffs, Super Bowls?

  208. PRBucFan Says:

    “Can’t defend the indefensible!”
    Well said.

  209. Tuco Says:

    stats are for losers, raphael. When is the last time he won a big game?

  210. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    I got a better question, when was the last time Free showed up and played a whole game? It’s dam near impossible to win if you only play half a game.

  211. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Jekyll, is that you?

  212. Patrick Says:


    I got a better question: when was the last time Freeman actually defeated a good team?

  213. canadianbuc Says:

    Guys i don’t love freeman but i dont hate him imo how it works is good QBs beat bad teams……………..We played a bad team in the eagles and lost, we should be killing this team but no. So if he can’t beat bad teams then how can he be a starting QB in the nfc south with all good teams?

  214. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Now that was dumb!!

  215. raphael Says:

    should of done that on 3rd down

  216. canadianbuc Says:

    That play is the story of our season

  217. Patrick Says:

    WOW! What a waste of a drive!! Freeman couldn’t even get ONE yard!

  218. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Wow 4th and 1 on the 5 and we cant convert with a 6’6” qb. Terrible, just terrible.

  219. snook Says:

    Ballgame. Merry Christmas everyone. This team and coaching staff sucks.

  220. MadMax Says:

    Right with you canadianbuc, well said.

  221. PRBucFan Says:

    I guarantee coach didn’t tell him to do that lol.

  222. Trey Says:

    Shotgun on 3rd and 1?

  223. Rrsrq Says:

    Don’t know what say bout that call, seems like whenever we try to surprise a team, it takes too long

  224. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Something Bradford didn’t like?? Like a delay of game penalty

  225. Patrick Says:

    That play perfectly describes how pathetic this team is.

  226. canadianbuc Says:

    Snook you may be right this coaching staff doe suck I don’t think I like Schiano that much. He’s a liar he said that he would put Michael Smith in to return kicks at some point and that hasnt happened he said that LGB would be a big part of this offense not happened and he seems really stubborn like if things aren’t going right hes not a big fan of changing things i fell like he doesn’t like showing that hes wrong

  227. Rrsrq Says:

    Where did the fade route go in this offense with a 6’5″ VJ

  228. MadMax Says:

    ….so in the draft, best CB available 1st and work some kind of magic (trades) for best QB available nest…then another CB, then Safety.

    Thats what I would do.

  229. raphael Says:

    got a better question….do you guys know that we have a defensive side as well?

  230. Gt40bear Says:

    While i have been a Freeman “hater” as of late, let’s make no mistake, the pass defense is gutless! Tom Brady would have trouble winning with his defense. I know New England’s defense is bad but the Bucs are taking bad to epic proportions! ANY high school defense could outplay this pass defense. So, let’s not put it all on JF.

  231. raphael Says:

    madmax glad your not the GM

  232. snook Says:

    This staff has the Jon Gruden disease. They over think every situation. Just play football.

  233. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Hyde are you back again??

  234. PRBucFan Says:

    Can Free Free take advantage if our defense making stops? Or is he gonna wait till the end of the game when they are exhausted to score and than blame it on the D when they don’t get the stop.

  235. raphael Says:

    what is up with mike williams falling down all the time?

  236. ladyz Says:

    Another 3 and done

  237. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    We dont have much of one. We all already know that. But that doesnt excuse Free’s pathetic play at QB. Keep coming with the crappy excuses though so your lips can stay planted to Free’s ass.

  238. MadMax Says:

    Oh but how I wish I was ralph, lol.

  239. PRBucFan Says:

    Hyde is officially out. Hideous.

  240. raphael Says:

    lol @ the Freeman haterz

  241. snook Says:

    Horrible play calling and decision making on that drive. Just get first downs, morons. We should’ve run Freeman out of town with Rah.

  242. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    I like Jekyll, Mr Hyde not so much

  243. snook Says:

    Rams need 3 and this game is over.

  244. PRBucFan Says:

    Or rather will others blame the D when they are finally getting stops and yet no points are being scored. What D on earth is gonna play inspired ball when everytime they are playing well their QB look like crap?

  245. SteveK Says:

    Freeman is getting booed, what the hell BucnJim?

    Freeman is earning his ticket outta here!

    He is playing pathetically.

  246. canadianbuc Says:

    That is he third 3 and out stop in a row so lets stop the freemans bad because our defense is bad talk

  247. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Football is a game of momentum and Gosh consistently kills momentum

  248. DallasBuc Says:

    You alarmists crack me up. This team is as good as it has been in a whole lot of years. Do your job as fans and root for your team. Cry later

  249. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    I read somewhere Freeman is scheduled to make in excess of 10 million next year. Screw his stats, his on field play does not justify that kind of money. Kind of makes me wonder what’ll happen this off season when they think about all this.

  250. Tuco Says:

    Offseason list: Get rid of everyone in the secondary not named Mark Barron, get a strong side linebacker, another DT besides McCoy. On offense, get a RT, TE and a qb who will challenge Freeman.

  251. SteveK Says:

    Let’s go Josh, it’s the 4th quarter, time to play your one quarter per week….

  252. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Fans like you crack me up. I root for my team all the time but if they suck I’m going to complain about it because I want them to play better. There is no official “Fan” guide that says you have to root for your team at all times. Lol

  253. PRBucFan Says:

    I wonder what Free’s season would look like without VJ?

  254. SteveK Says:

    Tebow would give us a better chance of Wong, albeit an uglier style of game, but definitely a “winning” style.

    Freeman looks lost. Maybe he can go try to be a baseball pitcher, dude can throw.

    Another wasted pick from the 2009 draft, way to go Dom!! 1st Raheem, now Josh, your in for it next year , Dom, if this losing Sh!t continues.

  255. Gt40bear Says:

    Corey Lynch just picked off a pass for the Chargers…boy sure glad we got rid of that bum! 😉

  256. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Let’s not go there. That’s one depressing image.

  257. Patrick Says:

    LMAO. Throws a great bomb downfield and then throws 3 straight incompletions to get us another 4th down just five yards away from the end zone.

  258. SteveK Says:

    2nd and goal, where the hell is the QB run. Wow Josh, wow?

  259. snook Says:

    Another turnover on downs inside the 10 coming up. Pathetic.

  260. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Freeman has his moments, but how about some “love” for our great receivers who “knock down, almost catch, bounce off their numbers/helmets ” their balls. Its almost like they think they are playing dodgeball.

  261. raphael Says:

    lol Freeman haterz are so stupid…

  262. snook Says:

    This team is a huge joke.

  263. PRBucFan Says:

    Well said
    Your not a Bucs fan your a Freeman fan. You cheer for him at the expense of our team. Stop being a hypocrite.

    -Hello Hyde!!!

  264. Gus Says:

    The way some of these “fans” act on here, I hope the team does move to London.

  265. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Hyde completed 2 on that drive, very strange decision there though

  266. SteveK Says:

    Orlovskey, get loose!!!!
    How drunk are you, Joe? I feel bad that your excellent reporting is wasted on such Sh!tty QB play.

    Watching Freeman out there makes me feel like “Dilfer time” all over again.

    Freeman is just not very good. Tools mean Sh!t without heart, cojones, and the ability to understand the game.

  267. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    We just need to run, run and run some more until we get inside there territory then kick the FG. Free just can’t be trusted. Let Martin and Blount go crazy for the rest of this game and next week. That’s our only shot of winning. It’s amazing to me they just wont let Blount touch the ball but rather throw it with Mr. Stud QB.

  268. SteveK Says:

    Nice Checkdown, Josh. You effing kidding me?

    Maybe K2 was pissed bc Jodh is a freakkng moron.

    Zuttah down. 🙁 Zuttah would never be Hirt if Freeman was a capable QB.

  269. DallasBuc Says:

    Silence- there is no guide but by definition fans back their teams. Since there is no guide i only assume that means all the time, not just when things are going well. I am not saying you can’t have your criticism and complaints, we all do. Just stop demanding a winner for your loyalty. Says way more about you than your team

  270. Gt40bear Says:

    I think the Bucs are GREAT!

  271. PRBucFan Says:

    A guaranteed turnover on downs with that check down…

  272. Jamaica Buc Says:

    well Joe – Sulivan is going NOWHERE!

    No need to worry about that!

  273. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Ignorant comment. That’s worse than anything anyone said on this site all game. Congrats bro.

  274. Patrick Says:

    AGAIN, we FAILED to score inside the 10 yard line! This team needs a SERIOUS overhaul; we’re NOT contenders, not even close. I want real change in the organization; same ole same ole mediocre crap every season.

  275. canadianbuc Says:

    Christian Ponder is leading his team to the playoffs and loo at his receivers man Freeman sucks

  276. Architek Says:

    Rams just look better prepared.

  277. snook Says:

    The Rams can’t move the ball on our sorry azz D. That’s how bad they are.

  278. SteveK Says:

    @ Gus,

    “the way some fans act on here”, what do you mean by that?
    How dare us “true” fans demand the best out of the team? Cmon man! Get serious, complacent fans are ok with how we are, “true fans” or in BucnJim’s case “knowledgable fans” know that Josh is effing terrible. He pisses me off more than BJ Upton did, and that’s damn impressive.

    Freeman is terribad, Adam Schein was right, Christian Ponder is BETTER.

  279. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    I have not seen anyone demand anything but consistant play at QB. Is that so much to ask? When a player stinks it up he can dam sure expect fans to complain about it. That by no means, indicates im demanding anything other than a player to play up to his potential… which Free has yet to do in the last 4 years. Our pass D has no potential there for there is nothing we can complain about other than just bitch to bitch.

  280. raphael Says:

    lol @ the cry baby punk fans we have here….lol

  281. canadianbuc Says:

    New Orleans is getting better, Carolina is getting better, the Falcons are one of the best teams in the league and the bucs….Only getting worse. Man I sadly see us being in the basement in this division for a long time unless something changes

  282. mark2001 Says:

    You don’t get rid of Freeman. But the days of giving him the keys to the starting job out of the gate are over. Bring in a FA QB with some experience and potential and let them fight for the job. He will either get it together or hit the bench.

  283. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Jekyll are you back again? 2 in a row

  284. SteveK Says:



  285. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    That’s 4

  286. PRBucFan Says:

    Bahahaha good one Dallas…

    Whelp can’t blame this one on the D,
    We should be up due to them getting us the ball back.

  287. Architek Says:

    Another Freeman pick.

  288. Trey Says:

    9 in two games.

  289. Gus Says:

    False. No one is going to the games. Then a bunch a people spent half the time bad mouthing the team. Some of the comments aren’t even criticism but just out right dissing the team. I have never seen this much hate to team. Yeah they aren’t playing well but when they are they claim to be the biggest fans. Bandwagon. Most Bucs fans define the word. I’m with this team thick and thin. If they suck I’m willing to say they suck. But this team has a bright future and good amount of ppl on here want us to blow up the team. It makes me sick. So I repeat some of the fans on here make me wish the team does move to London.

  290. bucobruce Says:

    OK OK, Im done Freeman sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  291. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Freeman is doing his damn best to reach 1:1 TD/INT ratio before season’s end. Totally wiping out all the good will he earned the first half of the season with this garbage. What the hell happened to this guy? He sucks!

  292. Patrick Says:

    Freeman now has 16 interceptions on the season!

  293. PRBucFan Says:

    Another 4 Congrats Free Free

  294. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    I think I would prefer Vinny Testaverde right now over Freeman. This is pathetic as pathetic gets.

  295. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    If they moved to London, it would end the TB blackouts

  296. Gus Says:

    @stevek no one wants the team to lose. No one is ok with the team losing. But it makes me sick that I’m pretty much cheering for this team to win just to shut people like you up. I wanna see these comments when this team is in the playoffs next year. Can’t wait

  297. snook Says:

    Bandwagon? Hahahahaha. Good one , you tool. This team sucks. That’s the truth. just accept it. The rams are shocked to be winning this game. Have they had a 1st down this half?

  298. SteveK Says:

    Our 6’6” QB can’t even throw it past the line of scrimmage.

    Another great play for Freeman and his band.

    Our D sucks bc Freeman is a no talent ass clown. Looks the part, but in reality we already have a “Quincy Black” on the team?

    4 picks for Josh, rock on with the Rock Star! We effing suck again! New GM and NEW QB for Christmas, please Santa.

    Dan Orlovskey needs to start next week.

  299. PRBucFan Says:

    Gus don’t hide behind the righteous act. That’s laughable. Your only upset because we aren’t kissing Freeman’s ass.

  300. snook Says:

    Playoffs next year??? Hilarious. With what quarterback? Keep dreaming Gus.

  301. Patrick Says:

    @Gus………….this team isn’t going to the playoffs next year. Not till we fire our entire secondary and get rid of Joshua Freeman.

  302. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Your not making any sense. We are all Buc fans here but the Bucs as well as Freeman disserve all the criticism they are getting right now. Fan or not this team is horrible. Free included. Pass D included. They have giving us nothing to cheer about. You can be as happy as you like nobody is stopping you but to try to tell us we are bad fans because we arent enjoying this total debacle is ridiculous.

  303. PRBucFan Says:

    There have been plenty if people praising other aspects of this team. If that’s not good enough for you. Tough stuff.

    On another note its too late to show up Jekel

  304. Ruggyup Says:

    Dedicated fan for over 20 years finally capitulates and admits this weekly scene is ugly, pathetic and unacceptable.

  305. SteveK Says:

    New year, same Checkdown, only it’s not to Limpkin. Wish our 4th year starter had a clue.

  306. DallasBuc Says:

    Gus- we keep saying the same thing to these bums but they don’t care. They would rather cry in their cereal and act like this is the worst football they have ever seen. Little girls, all likely under the age of 15. Ya know the “true fans”

  307. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    The Bucs can easily get Mallett and Geno for a playoff run

    Unload Jekyll and Hyde

  308. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Anybody thought about the idea of picking up Chris Johnson if and when he gets cut? As long as we dont over pay him he would be a great compliment for Martin. Would give us a nice 1,2 combo.

  309. Patrick Says:

    How the hell does Freeman almost have 400 yards when he’s thrown 4 INTS?

  310. PRBucFan Says:

    Dallas is officially Ralphy’s in disguise hahahaha

  311. SteveK Says:


    Love your enthusiasm, but we gotta find ourselves a Franchisr Quarterback 1st.

    Another tipped pass, a result of Josh’s eyes staring at one recover. He is too predictable. His brain doesn’t process football as quickly as required for the job. He is blown away.

  312. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    You and Gus feel free to go start a circle jerk and sing this teams praises to each other. You sound like the type to enjoy that.

  313. Gus Says:

    Wait let me be a “real” bucs fan: get rid of freeman fire Schiano. Suck off Chip Kelly so he can come coach. Get rid of Jackson Williams and start all over again. Trade our entire draft for Geno Smith…… Yeah let’s go bucs but if we are losing F*** em.

  314. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Fan for 36 years, not the worst Buc team I’ve seen. One of the most pathetic.

  315. DallasBuc Says:

    PR is officially a 15 yr old boy

  316. Patrick Says:

    This loss is SOLELY on Josh Freeman!! Our defense actually played well for a change today!! But his turnovers cost us!

  317. Rrsrq Says:

    Does this team have an identity yet?

  318. Gus Says:

    @stevek I can understand anyone who thinks we should get rid of him but be careful what you wish for. There are about 15 qbs in the league worse than Freeman and we could end up with on of them. The dude is 24 years old. I myself give him one more year. If he sucks next year ill be right beside you guys with the pitch forks

  319. SteveK Says:

    Woohoo! Another Joshy turnover.

    can’t even make a throw, that’s worse than a pick. He sucks ass!! Goodbye Freeman, you had us fooled, buddy. I wish you the best, and a change of scenery is needed for you and the Bucs. You are equivalent to Jason Campbell with the Skins. Maybe worse?

  320. RustyRhino Says:

    Just dialed in the game 4 INT 1 TD ? Josh is sinking his own ship. ? Wow

  321. Patrick Says:

    Hey Gus you retard, we never said we wanted Kelly or wanted Schiano fired. We never said anything bad about Jackson or Williams either you dumbf’k. Go give your boy Raphael a kiss and get off this site will ya?

  322. Gt40bear Says:

    Two years in a row now, i think it’s safe to say which Josh is he REAL Josh. Dilfer 2.0

  323. raphael Says:

    you guys are hilarious with all your Josh Freeman non-sense….he is a stud and will be here a LONG time !

  324. PRBucFan Says:

    You you aren’t fooling anyone Dallas/Ralphy

  325. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    The 1st article Joe should write after this game should be “Freeman Stinks It Up Again.”

  326. SteveK Says:

    @ Gus,

    I agree there are 15 other QB’s worse.

    There are 32 teams, top 12 qualify for postseason play.

    Say Freeman at his ceiling is the 17th best QB, why not take a chance on the next Russell Wilson (draft position comparison: 3rd round)?

    12 teams make the playoffs. The 17th best QB is not a playoff QB, we have to roll the dice, just like the Skins did. RG3 will be worth twice what they paid of he wins them the division.

  327. Patrick Says:

    Raphael is a Freeman cocksucker plain and simple.

  328. PRBucFan Says:

    Actually Gus no QB is playing worse ball right now.

  329. Gt40bear Says:

    Check my last, not fair to Trent. He at least ha heart. Had a 10¢ head, but had heart. I can’t even say now that Josh has heart.

  330. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    Wonder what the record is for failure on 4th down in one game?

    Maybe, another record for Gosh?

  331. raphael Says:

    prbuc fan and Patrick are homo Freeman haters…

  332. SteveK Says:


    You meant to say:

    “Doug Martin” is a stud and will be here a long time.

    Now that is the truth.

    As for your Freeman hoopla, scratch your chin bc his Free’s beanbag is itching. Jk bro, but damn, look at his play. At best, we have the 17th best QB in the NFL. Only 12 teams make it to the playoffs.

  333. Gus Says:

    @Patrick. Miguel did. Secondly be a fan. Being from the dc area they root for the skins NO MATTER WHAT. This was before RG3. Every game they went in saying they were going to win WITH REX GROSSMAN. Skins fans said they would kill for a QB like Freeman before RG3 came along. Is Freeman playing like a franchise qb. Hell no. But let’s give him a shot with the same coordinator for two years. FOR ONCE. Every good quarterback (except Peyton Manning) has a good consistent coaching from the same staff. Freeman has never had that shot. Can we give him that chance before we hang him is all I’m saying. Also @Patrick at least what I said was respectful. Unlike what you said to me so on that note you can go f*** yourself

  334. SteveK Says:

    Woohoo! Another pass well short of 1st down need. What a joke lol, freeman is turribad.

  335. Gt40bear Says:

    If the Bucs are truly wanting to get better, how about upgrading coaching staff when here is an opportunity? Norv will be available, clearly a better/more experienced OC than Sullivan. Prove it to us Glazers!

  336. raphael Says:

    Stevek …how clueless are you ? really ? Compare starting qb’s first 3 years in the league and Josh is ranked 8th. with a 84.8 rating… ahead of Brees and Stafford…..dumbasses ! lol

  337. ShelbyBucsGurl Says:

    Well, what a nice little Christmas present for we season ticket holders to end 2012 on. Soon they will want more money from us. Many will not give them anymore. It takes a couple of consecutive winning seasons to start building back up a season ticket base they say; so get ready for many more blackouts in the coming years…

  338. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Everybody here is rooting for the Bucs. Wipe the goo from your eyes and read. We are all Buc fans… but this team is horrilbe. Most fans don’t like to see there team play horribly. Even in washington I guarantee you most fans bash there own team if they dont play well. You on the other hand just want to be an a$$ kisser which you have every right to be. But dont tell us how to be a “fan”.

  339. PRBucFan Says:

    Why does anyone even validate that person with responses??? Beyond me lol

  340. Gus Says:

    @Gt40bear that wont be on the Glazers thats more on Schiano if he wants to change coordinators but I’m not offensive coordinators yet. If we change coordinators we have to get rid of Freeman too, because we will be saying for yet another year freeman has another coordinator.

  341. Trey Says:

    Gus- I agree on letting him play out next year but we seriously need to have a backup plan. Free is wildly inconsistent at best. When he is good he is very good but when he is bad he is the worst. 9 turnovers in two games is inexcusable even more so when you have the weapons Free has.

  342. SteveK Says:

    @ Gus,

    5 years on the Bucs, and 4 years of starting isn’t enough of a “chance” to show something.

    We can do better than the 17th best QB in football, and fans should demand better. Only 12 QB’s go to the playoffs. We need a top 12 QB to have a real “chance”. Anybody satisfied with Freeman is an “über Homer” with an extreme case of denial.

    It’s ok bro, Free is not the answer.

  343. raphael Says:

    Stevek your not just kidding…so get silence tea bag off your chin and your fellow punk ass gay boys patick and prbuc….cause you guys really have no idea..

  344. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    I’m trying to hear you bro but all I hear is the puckering of your lips. Can you quiet that down some?

  345. SteveK Says:


    You saw Freeman play like this last year through parts of the 10 game skid. We are at a 5 game skid this year highlighted by the horrific play of our QB. This is unacceptable. He has no accuracy, and he can not process the game quickly enough to provide effectiveness. He is holding us back.

  346. raphael Says:

    Stevek ….lol its Josh 3rd year starting and he has not been in the league 5 yrs….HE IS 24 YRS old…ARE YOU GUYS THAT STUPID……BAHAHAHHA ! what a joke you clowns are..

  347. PRBucFan Says:

    Awwwww someone’s mad 🙁 Poor baby!

  348. PRBucFan Says:

    Everyone if you don’t acknowledge him he’ll eventually go away.

  349. raphael Says:

    Stevek …it is a team game..you have not said a word about Mike Williams falling down, or dumb playcalling or OL mistakes taking away a big gain …………….Freeman is a star and is not going anywhere…

  350. raphael Says:

    lol Prbucfan…when you gonna take little Patricks peepee out of your mouth..

  351. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Lmao at the 24 year old excuse. He’s been in the league 4 years and has not got any better at all at anything but yet with age he’s magically gonna learn how to play the game correctly. Unbelieveable.

  352. ShelbyBucsGurl Says:

    BTW: The Colts now have 10 wins with a rookie QB, just saying…

  353. raphael Says:

    hilarious !!

  354. raphael Says:

    silence..yet he somehow has a bunch of Buc records and is the best QB in Buc history…

  355. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    yes your comments are hilarious

  356. DallasBuc Says:

    Gus- it’s no use. The assh•les puff out their chest when freeman is hot but run for the hills when he is struggling. They are so insulting and passionate about it that one might think they care. They don’t. They just want a winner and will sh!t on our team if it doesn’t win. I say all of you chicken littles should go find another team to root for. You assh•les lower the standards

  357. raphael Says:

    and only 24 yrs old…smh

  358. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Raph we have had no QB worth a dam in our franchises history besides Brad Johnson. Therefore your comment means nothing to any “knowledgeable” fan.

  359. raphael Says:

    Dallas..exactly..and when the whole TEAM puts it together they will say things like….”oh I will gladly eat crow now” or “I he would be good with time”….pathetic bandwagon punk fans !

  360. SilenceTheCritics Says:


    Freeman is very rarely hot. If he ever has been hot. Continue with the ass kissing though.

  361. raphael Says:

    @silence I really question the “knowledgeable” part

  362. PRBucFan Says:

    Yup definitely no doubt about it lololol

  363. DallasBuc Says:

    Silence- brad Johnson was the best QB in this franchises history? I think mommy is calling you to come do your chores before dinner!!

  364. PRBucFan Says:

    Keep acknowledging him Silence, its no use

  365. raphael Says:

    prbuc…your a retard …lol @your dumb ass

  366. PRBucFan Says:

    Funny thing is that because he (posing as two different user names 😉 hmmmm??) can no longer talk intelligible football, he resorts to personal attacks as if somehow someway it makes his words mean something??? The irony of it all is that he talks about children posting on here when there is no way in hell any grown man would act the way he is on this board. Im done wasting my time with you, grow the hell up.

  367. PRBucFan Says:

    Not coming back to the this thread lol. Complete waste

  368. Gus Says:

    Freeman is the best qb in bucs history and you know why because this team gives up on qbs ALl the time. No use. Some of the “fans” of this team are useless. If your commenting at me then your probably one of those fans.