Bucs At Giants, Open Thread

September 16th, 2012

OK guys, Joe’s at Met Life Stadium, there is no blackout and it is the Bucs first road game of the season, at the defending Super Bowl champs no less. Your comments are welcome but as always, please do not post links to pirated feeds but instead, you mail e-mail them among yourselves. Have fun.

692 Responses to “Bucs At Giants, Open Thread”

  1. Santos Says:

    Let’s go Tampa Bayyyyyyyy 27-17 bucs

  2. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    My son, who usually predicts wins and losses accurately, said the Bucs will win this one. Here’s hoping!!!!!

  3. flmike Says:

    Wow, it’s Fox’s A game today, got Troy and Buck calling this.





  6. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Would of been nice for Talib to pick that last pass off and save us 3 points. Nice stop though. GO BUCS!

  7. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    That was nearly a nightmare…

  8. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Martin picks up 4 up the middle.

  9. Stranger Says:

    Why do they insist on not letting Stroughter stay back there?

  10. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Williams first down. They are really coming after Josh. O-line doing good so far.

  11. canadianbuc Says:

    Jackson has to shine in this game we paid him the big bucks to help us win these games.

  12. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    HOLY CRAP!!!!!! 41 yard pass to Jackson! Beautiful pass!



  14. SkookumSmitty Says:

    This team is just different, so far…I cannot see the team last year getting out of that hole.

  15. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Free not getting much time, back there.

  16. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Field goal try. Oline broke down a little that time.

  17. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Made the field goal! 3-3!!!

  18. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Martin remind anyone else of Warrick Dunn?

  19. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Nice 2 games and 2 scores on our opening drive.


    Not too bad a start. ..7 would have been better

  21. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I like what I see so far. Bucs are going with fast action passes mostly.,,and running the ball. The fast passes are negating the pass rush a little.

  22. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    That’s a good point, Silence.

  23. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    You know what I like? Seeing Sully one the sideline with the offense gathered around him, coaching them DURING a game. Never saw that with Olson.

  24. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    If our o-line continues giving Free that much time it’s gonna be a good day.


    first Mc Coy mention

  26. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Yeah, good so far…I just don’t want to see us go score for score with the Giants.


    uh oh

  28. BucNeckid Says:


  29. SkookumSmitty Says:

    That did NOT look intentional.

  30. BucNeckid Says:

    too many open Giants on that play
    should have been a td

  31. BucNeckid Says:

    That Mason Foster Penalty was not intentional.
    and it is nice to see more than one buc defender on tackles

  32. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Eli just gets rid of the ball so fast it’s hard to pressure him.

  33. BucNeckid Says:

    Nice way to emphasize the penalty Clayborn

  34. Rrsrq Says:


  35. BucNeckid Says:

    Kind of glad that the Bennett Brothers weren’t re-united in Tampa

  36. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Good hold by the defense! Come on Free, step up and make a play!

  37. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    The old Bucs “bend but don’t break” is back.

  38. RustyRhino Says:

    I like talib in his contract yearhe can tackle, his pass defense is a bit off today so far but his tackling is on the mark

  39. BucNeckid Says:

    Can’t even get it to the twenty.
    Why bring it out?

  40. BucNeckid Says:

    Where is Smith on Kickoffs?

  41. RustyRhino Says:

    No way the bennd around is back

  42. BucNeckid Says:

    Smith is inactive

  43. BucNeckid Says:

    Missing Davin Joseph

  44. BucNeckid Says:

    Greg olsen making a guest appearance play call on that draw

  45. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Come on Koenen pin ’em inside the 10.

  46. Rrsrq Says:

    Time for the D to make a play

  47. raphael Says:

    Freeman has to hit that pass to Jackson

  48. RustyRhino Says:

    No flag ? On the punt

  49. Rrsrq Says:


  50. raphael Says:

    YES !

  51. BucNeckid Says:




  53. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    MASON WITH THE FIRST TURNOVER OF THE GAME!! Come on Free, get this in the endzone!!

  54. Rrsrq Says:

    We need 7

  55. raphael Says:

    run the fricken BALL !

  56. raphael Says:


  57. BucNeckid Says:

    Nice go to connection

  58. Rrsrq Says:

    Yessir! V jax



  60. raphael Says:

    Jackson ! πŸ™‚

  61. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  62. RustyRhino Says:

    No flag ? On the punt INT!

  63. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    V-Jax with the score! Good job!

  64. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    VJax is dominating so far today. Love it!


    Now we need a stop from the D

  66. RustyRhino Says:

    TD there are a few punches for you Joe

  67. BucNeckid Says:

    Glad to see these two connecting
    last week we made the running game statement
    Today it seems that we are looking to show the Freeman to Jackson threat.
    Very Nice

  68. raphael Says:

    lit up by Mason !

  69. BucNeckid Says:

    Bend don’t break

  70. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Damn, Cruz is GOOOOD.

  71. BucNeckid Says:

    Good coverage
    good catch

  72. Rrsrq Says:

    We need pressure

  73. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Nicks is getting NOTHING from Talib, today.

  74. BucNeckid Says:

    Like what FOX’s A-Team announcers are saying about Bucs this week

  75. BucNeckid Says:

    Don’t run on the Bucs this year

  76. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Gerald McCoy is so jacked this year!!!

  77. Rrsrq Says:

    Good series Talib

  78. SkookumSmitty Says:


  79. RustyRhino Says:

    Talib is doing well, maybe he has a coach he respects/fears?

  80. BucNeckid Says:

    Smith is a weapon.
    I don’t care if he runs a play on Offense
    On special teams he is dangerous.
    Stroughter and Benn are safe, but neither have shown the electricity of Smith

  81. Mitch Says:

    im missing my first game in over 14 years because direct tv effed up my authorization codes!!!!!! going crazy.

  82. BucNeckid Says:

    Draft need in next years draft –
    Tight End
    Right Guard

  83. Miguel Grande Says:

    Finally got caught up on my DVR.

    Bucs looking good!

    #59 is really stepping up

  84. BucNeckid Says:

    Freeman rolled right into that sack

  85. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Hated to see the non block by Blount.

  86. BucNeckid Says:

    Bad call
    Not safe
    got lit up


    This doesnt look good

  88. Miguel Grande Says:

    Smith not active

  89. RustyRhino Says:

    There is room here at the Greens Tavern Flowery Branch Ga

  90. SkookumSmitty Says:

    I am sure someone will correct me, and that is OKAY. It looked to me like he found no one to block, and tried to get open for a screen…Is that what was supposed to happen, and Free just didn’t have time?


    Blount did what he was supposed to

  92. Stanglassman Says:

    MITCH Watch it on your computer. first row .eu

  93. BucNeckid Says:

    Defense reminds me of the old Bucs defense


    The D is takin em all out!!!

  95. Have A Nice Day Says:

    That FBs lower back collapsed on impact with the ground. He is gonna be hurt for a while after that.

  96. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Hynoski meets the SCORPION. Damn, that looked painful.

  97. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    That looked brutal.

    Can someone tell me why that wasn’t a fumble? I thought they were down if their knees touched?

  98. SkookumSmitty Says:

    I hate to see injuries…Our D is laying some wood out there, today.

  99. Miguel Grande Says:

    Defense does look good, hope they don’t fine Foster

  100. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    yea that was really ugly

  101. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Pete, I think the only thing his knees touched was his hips.

  102. Sgt Mike Says:

    3rd and a mile screens have rarely worked for the Bucs. Cut it out. They need to be running more 2 back sets with Martin AND Blount. Defense seems to be outshining our offense overall.

  103. Stanglassman Says:

    That is called a fumble all the time.

  104. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  105. Have A Nice Day Says:

    @Pete If the elbow hits the ground they are down too. Plus the ground cant cause the fumble.

  106. OptimisTroll Says:

    Unlike last season, I am no longer terrified when the D takes the field.

  107. BucNeckid Says:

    I made a fortune won year betting on any team that played the team the Bucs did the week before. Bucs defense brutalized that team so bad that the next week they were the walking wounded. Any team would romp over them. This Bucs team is looking that vicious.
    Calling vegas now to see who plays NYG next week. All In!

  108. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    PICK!!!! AGAIN!!!

  109. BucNeckid Says:

    Cut one week
    Star next

  110. Have A Nice Day Says:

    McDonald making a name for himself!!

  111. BucNeckid Says:

    Veteran savvy

  112. SkookumSmitty Says:

    NICE! McDonald! Lucky that hold wasnt called.

  113. Have A Nice Day Says:

    That was no horse collar!

  114. BucNeckid Says:

    Get some points!!!

  115. Miguel Grande Says:

    Panthers playing Giants Thursday, good bet

  116. BucNeckid Says:

    What a Freakin Move!!!!

  117. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Martin is a beast!

  118. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Muscle Hamster! TD!

  119. canadianbuc Says:



    dat Martin Kid IS NICE

  121. BucNeckid Says:

    Dom IS a RockStar

  122. Have A Nice Day Says:

    That totally reminded me of Warrick Dunn.

  123. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    WOOO PICK and a score by Martin. This is how you play buc ball!!

  124. Miguel Grande Says:

    Jumping on the Martin bandwagon, TD

  125. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    This is awesome!

  126. lurker Says:

    “the first of many for doug martin.”

    i agree

    after barber gets away with a hold for the turnover. lol

  127. Buc_The_World Says:

    Bucs Teaching NY how to “Dougie”….lol

  128. bucobruce Says:


  129. BucNeckid Says:

    Up on the superbowl champs by 11
    AT their house too no less

  130. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Guess I’ll be picking up the bucs D in my fantasy league.

  131. lurker Says:

    it was a horsecollar

  132. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Bucs secondary hasn’t looked this good since Gruden/Kiffin days.


  133. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    bucobruce, I KIND of said it. Game ain’s over yet…but I love being wrong!

  134. Rick330 Says:

    This defense can be very dominate as they progress through the season. As I type that the RB just busts a long one..lol

  135. RustyRhino Says:

    Fielding a kick off in the endzone and you step backwards past the line of green to white this is a safety? If not why not?

  136. BucNeckid Says:

    Cmon guys

  137. BucNeckid Says:

    Holding Roy Miller
    HA ha

  138. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    The Giants are mentally out of it.

  139. BucNeckid Says:

    Uh oh David out

  140. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Rick330: “As I type that the RB just busts a long one..lol”


  141. BucNeckid Says:

    Nice Clayborn introduction to Manning

  142. BucNeckid Says:

    Brown looks better than D.Wilson

  143. Have A Nice Day Says:

    This RB is strong and big. Not a good match up for our guys.


    what happened to our run defense?

  145. BucNeckid Says:

    More Bending….

  146. BucNeckid Says:

    Barron is Good

  147. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Schiano has quickly figured out how to get plays out of our LBs consistently.

  148. BucNeckid Says:

    Cruz all day

  149. BucNeckid Says:

    Not ready for Brown

  150. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Giants are looking too good this drive.

  151. Miguel Grande Says:

    Turnover would be great now, right before the half


    hey gotta get off their blocks

  153. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    How’s this backup beating us?

  154. BucNeckid Says:

    Same old Back up success story
    No tape to watch to prepare against
    Definitely different style than Bradshaw and Wilson
    More like Jacobs

  155. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Oddly, I agree with Jockstrap, we need a turnover.

  156. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Talib got worked. Bad.

  157. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Darn…well we all saw that coming.

  158. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Wow Talib got shook on that TD

  159. RustyRhino Says:

    Talib got burned there

  160. Miguel Grande Says:

    Eli hits Nicks right where Ronde vacated

  161. BucNeckid Says:

    TOO MUCH BENDING on that drive
    Bucs D Broke a bit that time

  162. raphael Says:

    dayum talib got smoked

  163. lurker Says:

    oops, we broke.

  164. lurker Says:

    what was the safety doing?

  165. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Plenty of time to score, time to rock out, Josh.

  166. houstonbucs Says:

    Ny td came at a good time.
    We need to regroup in the halftime.

  167. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Eli just sliced us up the middle down the field.

    Bucs need to make adjustments against these TE routes over the middle.

  168. lurker Says:

    let’s see the 2 minute offense

  169. Miguel Grande Says:

    Bad time management

  170. SkookumSmitty Says:



    falling apart already.

  172. RustyRhino Says:


  173. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Thank god for Watson’s speed and hustle.

  174. Patrick Says:

    We just gave them lots of time to take the lead before half

  175. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Is it possible to keep Freeman and the Bucs defense focused???

  176. Rick330 Says:

    We should have put Blount in and run him twice. Then hit a short pass to Clark. The momentum is shifting, Not GooD..

  177. lurker Says:


    too many 3rd and longs

  178. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    I absolutely HATE how conservative our offensive playcalling is when we have a lead. This sh-t will NEVER work against a talented offense. Damn!!!

  179. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Well, apparently I should be thanking god for the penalty lol

  180. RustyRhino Says:

    No pass rush

  181. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Our defense looks very tired.

  182. canadianbuc Says:

    We are giving manning way to much time our d line is getting no pressure.

  183. Patrick Says:

    Horrible how we gave them the ball back!!

  184. Architek Says:

    Where is the pass rush?

  185. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Our failed blitzes are looking like the Saints 2011.

  186. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Man Coverage!!!

  187. Patrick Says:


  188. Architek Says:

    I dont see anything going on with our DE’s in the rush game.

  189. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    We hve to pray that the Giants implode.

  190. Architek Says:


  191. Have A Nice Day Says:


  192. Miguel Grande Says:




  194. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  195. NJBucsFan Says:


  196. raphael Says:

    Holy cr-p !

  197. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssss go defense!

    F—-_ Eli and his picks!!!

  198. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    To those who said Eric Wright is no good…you got owned.


    and we det the ball in the second half!!!!!@!

  200. BucNeckid Says:

    JUst when we thought they were becoming the Bucs from last year
    Defense TD

  201. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    WTF?! TD just before half on a pick six!!! Wooo!!!

  202. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    And that’s why we payed the man.

  203. lurker Says:

    that was crazy

  204. BucNeckid Says:

    Dom IS a RockStar
    Two Free Agent player score TD

  205. RustyRhino Says:

    Pick six

  206. SkookumSmitty Says:


  207. Miguel Grande Says:

    Our DE #94 is a great downfield blocker, That play will make a few highlight reels

  208. canadianbuc Says:


  209. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Meadowlands now DEAD quiet, lol!

  210. Miguel Grande Says:

    A timely prayer #237

  211. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Dominick hit on all cylinders this year.

  212. lurker Says:

    so did we still overpay for wright?!?

  213. SkookumSmitty Says:

    That was an AMAZING run after the pick, too!


    holy crap… 24points b efore halftime

  215. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    They finally snuck a CB in there to stop those quick slants to Cruz. I wasn’t just impressed with the pick, but even more so with that awesome return by Wright. Incredible play!

  216. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Wow!!! Amazing what free agency will do with Wright and Jackson…… oh and lets not forget our guard.

    Then you look at the draft picks of Martin, Barron and LaVonte David.

    Then take into account McDonald and keeping all of our DBs….

    What an offseason!

  217. Miguel Grande Says:

    Listen to the boo birds

  218. lurker Says:

    skookum, can’t you hear joe yellin? lol

  219. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Great first half. Now I hope they dont come out conservative like they did last week.

  220. lurker Says:

    boo birds

  221. raphael Says:


  222. Architek Says:

    I tell you what, I am so impressed with our coaching staff. We look really prepared and focused since Schiano has taken over.

  223. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Let me just say…the Bucs are doing MUCH better against the Giants than I thought they would. I cannot believe how fast Schiano turned this defense around…and with no real free agent help.

    And the offense is coming to life a little more each game.

  224. RustyRhino Says:


  225. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Wright did allow quite a few plays today that turned into scores. I’d say yes, Lurker. Of course, I don’t really care what they pay people so long as we win.

  226. Miguel Grande Says:

    Maybe Wright should be returning punts, that was brilliant

    Clayborn blocking Eli reminds me of Sapp blocking Favre

  227. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    No real FAs besides Wright I mean.

  228. scott Says:

    could the national tv announcers be any more biased towards the Giants?

  229. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Tampa looks awesome! We came to play and win this game!

  230. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Please don’t get conservative in the second half with playcalling. These aren’t the Kitties and Eli can score points in a hurry. We need to sustain drives with more intermediate passes and quick slants.

  231. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    A. Luck is looking like a good pick for the Colts.

  232. Have A Nice Day Says:

    One thing is for sure: there is no more quite in this team. The coaching is clearly working.

  233. BamBamBuc Says:

    Still not thrilled with Martin as a runner. Hasn’t shown me much in 1 1/2 games. Offense isn’t doing great, although looks like Free to Jackson is coming around. I can see Clark being more involved in the 2nd half. Defense is winning this game for us, but need more pressure on Eli. Talib is getting schooled out there. Foster looking very good.

  234. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I agree BamBam.

    I would like to see what Blount can do with 10 or more runs too.

  235. RastaMon Says:

    Raheem Morris……

  236. Have A Nice Day Says:

    @Rastaman – Who?

  237. Miguel Grande Says:

    I hope they do some coaching at halftime.

    I hate to say it but they may have to score 14 more points in the 2nd half to win.

  238. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    I must admit that Nicks and Cruz are extremely tough to cover. Without those two guys the Giants would have no offense at all.

  239. CanadianBucsFan Says:

    That was an amazing pick six by Wright, what a great runback too I would not expect that good of vision from him haha

  240. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I really hope Schiano is more like Bill Bellecheck (sp) than we think. Bill would stomp on their throat.

  241. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Finally Miguel Something I can agree with you on. We will definately have to keep scoring if we want to win this game.



  243. BucNeckid Says:

    Bennd Around,
    Benn up the Middle


    nice run

  245. BucNeckid Says:

    Second Half with the lead=
    Martin and Blount all day

  246. Jason Aris Says:

    y no blount yet?


    how bout some Blount?

  248. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Smart move throwing it away.

  249. Miguel Grande Says:

    1st half stats are for losers

  250. canadianbuc Says:

    Martin looks good but i think we should change it up and put blount in for a couple of plays.

  251. BucNeckid Says:

    Jackson of the pass defense
    Almost an Interception

  252. Miguel Grande Says:

    Nice play by Jackson

  253. BucNeckid Says:


  254. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Wow…that was a long kick.

  255. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Barth is so money. He hasn’t missed a field goal in the past 19 tries.

  256. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Barth is better than Grammatica!


    good defense by Jax

  258. raphael Says:

    what up with blount ?

  259. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    “1st half stats are for losers”

    That was actually funny…

  260. Patrick Says:

    Good drive

  261. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    Took some effort to find a good kicker too.

  262. Rick330 Says:

    Blount must be buried under the doghouse, just one touch so far.. They need to start using him to lbring the safeties up and open the passing lanes. If not Blount give Ware a few pops.

  263. Have A Nice Day Says:

    The Buc’s offense isn’t doing all that well. No turnovers but we aren’t moving the ball efficiently.

    Our special teams look like garbage.

  264. Miguel Grande Says:

    Blount must have broken the anti-hurdling rule

  265. Patrick Says:

    DAMN that was a close one

  266. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Wilson looked like Blount.

  267. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Talib is having a terrible game.

  268. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Freeman is so unfocused, deer in the head lights if you will, that he forced Vincent Jackson to become a CB.


  269. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    We need to work on stripping the ball from Wilson.

  270. Jason Aris Says:

    what’s up with Freeman? 50% completion.
    our defence is winning this game for us!

  271. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Buc Fan #237 Says:
    September 16th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Freeman is so unfocused, deer in the head lights if you will, that he forced Vincent Jackson to become a CB.



    Are you freaking blind??? Offense scored 3 times so far!

  272. Miguel Grande Says:

    Tick tock, tick tock

  273. Jason Aris Says:

    receivers seem to be forced to make acrobatic catches MOST of the time?
    poor delivery of the ball ?

  274. Have A Nice Day Says:

    @Pete In all fairness, our defense has given us plenty of short fields.

  275. Gt40bear Says:

    Tailb gettin’ schooled πŸ™

  276. Patrick Says:


  277. Miguel Grande Says:

    Big tip by Watson

  278. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Time for a long, long drive.

  279. canadianbuc Says:

    Ok time for some Blount force!

  280. Miguel Grande Says:

    Let’s start moving those chains, tick tock

  281. Jason Aris Says:

    … and good contributions from ST

  282. Patrick Says:



  283. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Stopped them AGAIN.

  284. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Jason Aris

    lol…Freeman is playing great. No costly mistakes. Defense only scored 6 points…don’t see how that is winning us the game. Freeman and his offense are making the most of those opportunities.

    His completion % is low because he actually throws it away at times now…thereby reducing picks.

  285. ClayBURN94 Says:

    Hey joe is eric banned or is he just a sore loser?! Lol

  286. Miguel Grande Says:

    I think Josh’s QB rating is far better than Eli”s imo

  287. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Nice 3rd down stop!

    Free goes blind at times… he needs to look more like Eli, focused and in the game… minus the INTs.

    We scored on all 3 gifts given by Eli and taken by our defense.

    Seriously, the Bucs Freeman to man it up and keep his damn head in the game.

  288. lurker Says:

    bush had a great run vs poor raider tackling.

  289. Rick330 Says:

    Freeman is doing his job. Managing the game. The playcalling is what I don’t care for. They need to not watch the clock. The right-side of the line is doing well for backups.

  290. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Here comes tomorrow’s apologist argument…Ready?

    “The Bucs only did so well because they have intimate knowledge of the Giants playbook, via Ware, Sullivan, etc.”

  291. Jason Aris Says:

    that’s what I was suggesting “HAND”. D – giving us short fields
    The O had only a bit over 100 yds up to 5 mins into the third

  292. Miguel Grande Says:

    omg great spot

  293. Have A Nice Day Says:

    I’d rather have a “blind” QB that doesn’t turn the ball over than a QB who is so far losing the game for his team(Eli).

  294. Jason Aris Says:

    However …
    … we’ve been taking care of the ball.
    decent drive here in the 3rd so far

  295. Have A Nice Day Says:

    lol @ Smitty. You are so right.

  296. Rick330 Says:

    missed facemask

  297. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Martin is starting to get going.

  298. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Scratch that lol

  299. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Bout time for a Blount 40 yarder.



  301. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    And the “Are the Giants a bad team this year?” line.

  302. Miguel Grande Says:

    agree, Rick, damn scabs


    PLAY CALLING …..sorry

  304. raphael Says:

    Martins helmet was almost ripped off !

  305. RastaMon Says:

    Raheem Morris….

  306. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Looks like Sully is going into conservative. Hate that. Hated it when Dungy coached as well.

  307. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    We need Blount… or an Alstott type of muscle.

  308. Gt40bear Says:

    Damn it! Go for the kill, I hate play no to lose!

  309. SkookumSmitty Says:

    I should have registered an alt, and just straight TROLLED you guys after the game. You know…For the LOLZ.

  310. lurker Says:

    where’s blount? we need him. a hamster is still small.

  311. RustyRhino Says:

    Why no blount? We are ahead and no blount?

  312. Have A Nice Day Says:

    3rd and 1 and they run. Doesn’t sound that awful to me. Although, the Giants already had 4 tackles for loss so….

  313. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I think the scabs are determined to call as few penalties as possible this week.

  314. Have A Nice Day Says:

    lmao – Smitty is on fire. It still could happen.

  315. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Vrap…Wright down.

  316. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    I like the running the clock down… but we need more than Martin.

  317. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Crap too.

  318. Miguel Grande Says:

    oh, oh Wright down, luckily we’ve got a zillion DBs

  319. Have A Nice Day Says:

    We were told all year that we were gonna be a running team. on 3rd and 1, a running team almost always runs the ball. I’m just surprised we were beat so badly on that run.

  320. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    That doesn’t look good on Wright. Rib maybe.

  321. Patrick Says:

    Vincent Jackson has caught just about all of our passes today.

    Just shows what the passing game would be without him.

  322. Have A Nice Day Says:


  323. lurker Says:

    reggie bush td, again. a long one this time. 65 yrds.

  324. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    It also shows how bad the other WRs have been for us.

  325. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Barber picked…but Flag. Dang it.

  326. Rick330 Says:

    Our QB is 6’6″ 250 lbs.. left gaurd is a road grader.. Should have snuck it on 3rd and 1

  327. SkookumSmitty Says:


  328. Patrick Says:

    That’s what I meant Dutcher

  329. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Barber didn’t have control anyway.

  330. Patrick Says:

    Jackson has been great but Freeman has very pedestrian numbers………though he’s not making mistakes which is a very good thing.

  331. Miguel Grande Says:

    Tick tock will the Bucs win the 3rd quarter?

  332. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Great COVER!!!!

  333. Have A Nice Day Says:

    McDonald is playing quite well. Where did this guy come from?

  334. Have A Nice Day Says:

    UGH! Talib is killing us.

  335. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Freaking talib is going to cost us this game at this rate.

  336. Miguel Grande Says:

    Damn scabs

  337. SkookumSmitty Says:


  338. Rick330 Says:

    That looked like both guys were handchecking. Not pass Int.

  339. Gt40bear Says:

    Talib needs to get his head out of his butt!

  340. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Where is the DL we saw last week?

  341. canadianbuc Says:

    A sack would be nice

  342. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Nice job Barron!

  343. lurker Says:

    need last week’s pressure on the qb

  344. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Fantastic stand! I am fine so long as they only get field goals.

  345. Rick330 Says:

    DL is gassed, offense needs a long drive to get them some rest. Hello Blount, you there?

  346. SkookumSmitty Says:

    I’d feel pretty damned good all WEEK, if the Bucs offense can get a TD on this next possession.

  347. Miguel Grande Says:

    A tied 3rd quarter (3-3) is actually a strong positive for the Bucs

    Giants have to shut the Bucs down and score 2 times in the 4th

  348. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Ronde is really doing well at Safety. I could see the man being able to play another year there after this season.

  349. 13frain Says:

    Talib is being punked. He’s holding on every play. They are throwing at him on every play. He’s getting beat on every play

  350. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Would we see Morris over there teaching his offense as head coach? Nope!

  351. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Schiano needs to give Talib some help.

  352. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Wow. Cleaned his clock!

  353. Rick330 Says:

    Wher’s the damn flag!!!!

  354. Patrick Says:


  355. SkookumSmitty Says:


    *pops a nitro under tongue*

  356. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Sigh…his first pick. Refs are killing us as much as Talib.

  357. Big Picture Guy Says:

    Stop passing!! Where is BLOUNT!?!?

  358. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Freeman you f-cking idiot.

  359. RastaMon Says:

    Brad Johnson

  360. Have A Nice Day Says:


  361. lurker Says:

    why is freeman not running anymore?

  362. Patrick Says:

    Sorry guys……..but Freeman is just not very good!!

  363. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Lay off Freeman. He’s not doing bad. We’re winning a game against a top 5 QB who has 3 picks, and you guys complain on one pick.

  364. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    No call?

  365. raphael Says:

    wrong patrick !

  366. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    I do think Free should have ran, but it’s still a pretty good game by him.

  367. lurker Says:

    freeman had daylight and yet he stayed in the pocket

  368. raphael Says:

    Refs have cost us 30yds

  369. Rick330 Says:

    Why does Free not run when theres huge lanes for him? This is about to get ugly if the D does not hold them to 3 pts

  370. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Barron loves those out of bounds moves πŸ˜›

  371. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    TD on this drive by the Giants and it’s a whole new ballgame. Where is our offense anyway? Our defense is carrying us and we spent a fortune on offensive help.

  372. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    The open lanes for Freeman to run are bait.

    Foster down…crap.

  373. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Bucs defense has 10 pass deflections and 3 ints. I don’t know what more they can do. It is really up to the offense now.

  374. SkookumSmitty Says:


  375. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Talib can not cover anything today.

  376. SkookumSmitty Says:


  377. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    What the Bucs D can do is STOP them from scoring more points…it’s what they are paid to do.

    We do have some great players on defense this year.

  378. lurker Says:

    great job barron…

    rays rallying

  379. Rick330 Says:


  380. SkookumSmitty Says:

    This is AWESOME again.

  381. Justin Says:

    Talib has gotten victimized today. Looks like a little boy out there. Too bad, this could have been something of a coming out party for him

  382. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Offense needs a really long drive, even if they just get a field goal. The Defense needs rest.

  383. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Ironically, Justin, Biggers would have been much, much worse.

  384. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    C’mon Blount!

  385. Patrick Says:

    OK Sullivan, RUN THE f’king ball with Blount!!

    Geez………can’t believe we’re having to say that again

  386. Justin Says:

    Dutch, true that. This second half has been no fun to watch at ALL. Bucs defense cannot get off the field. ZERO pressure on Manning without bringing a ‘backer.

  387. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    They really do need to change up backs. Giants are getting use to Martin now. Blount has a different style.

  388. lurker Says:

    2 on, 2 out, jennings down 1-2

  389. lurker Says:

    struck out looking

  390. canadianbuc Says:

    I saw blount in that last shot!!

  391. Justin Says:

    While I’m complaining, the commercials are soooooo overdone. I want to sit down and watch football, not commercials.

  392. Architek Says:

    Offense has to close this game out…

  393. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Wonder if not putting Blount in is related to the “non” injury?

  394. lurker Says:

    so now we start fast and end slow? lmao

    and we still complain

  395. Jbeachbuc Says:

    Talib- better citizen, lesser cover corner??

  396. canadianbuc Says:


  397. lurker Says:

    blount in doghouse?

  398. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Larsen limping a bit.

  399. Justin Says:

    I’m complaining about winning a game. THIS HALF BITES.

  400. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Excellent blocking on that play.

  401. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Wow…Freeman could have made hotel reservations with all the time he just had. Good coverage downfield though.

  402. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Schiano has a bit of a headache lol

  403. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Nicks just made someone eat dirt!

  404. Miguel Grande Says:

    Blount = red headed step child

  405. SkookumSmitty Says:


  406. Have A Nice Day Says:

    @ Pete lol Indeed.

  407. Rick330 Says:

    I feel like Schiano, Migraine is from no Blount or Ware.. WTH!

  408. lurker Says:

    saints down 20 – 35 to the panthers and they missed on a 4th and 4.

  409. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    EVEN IF the Giants find some way to come back and win…this team is showing itself to be a contender this year.

    They’ve gotten better each game too.

    Last week, the offense scored once. This week three times so far. They ARE getting better.

    Best of all…they are showing we can run with the bog boys this game.

  410. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Too predictable on the play calling. Way too predictable. At some point this is going to bite Sullivan in the ass. Hopefully not today.

  411. lurker Says:

    schiano thinks he has a bell cow but really he has a bell calf

  412. lurker Says:

    we need the bull in there

  413. snook Says:

    Why are we trying to sit on this lead??????

  414. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    OMG…Williams just needs to go backwards a couple steps.

  415. Patrick Says:

    DAMN IT, Get the f’king FIRST DOWN

  416. SkookumSmitty Says:

    I think Coach Schiano might be slightly upset.

  417. snook Says:

    You can’t sit on an 8 point lead with 9 minutes left. Awful coaching.

  418. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    A fresh Blount would decimate that defense at this point. Schiano is mad too.

  419. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher

    There’s no excuse for not winning this game. We better win……it’s right in front us if we just keep the ball moving for once.

  420. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Keep in mind…Sully is a rookie too.

  421. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    I’m glad we have Koenen.

  422. Miguel Grande Says:

    MW, too much spinning and juking

  423. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I agree Patrick…I didn’t expect us to be in this position. We need to stomp on their throats.

  424. snook Says:

    Run on 1st and 2nd. Throw on 3rd. Everyone knows. Be aggressive and FInish.

  425. Jrock(mobile) Says:


  426. 1976Buc Says:

    Is there a health issue with Blount? There is no reason not to put a fresh set of legs in to protect this lead.

  427. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    This isn’t college…ultra conservative offense with a lead won’t work week in and week out in the NFL. This is sooooo frustrating to watch I feel like punching the screen.

  428. lurker Says:

    mike williams out-wilied himself.

  429. Have A Nice Day Says:


  430. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Let’s hope they stop the 2 point conversion.

  431. Miguel Grande Says:

    oh oh, will they go for 2

  432. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    We need to take away those underneath routes.

  433. Rick330 Says:

    Well, saw that coming. was only a matter of time.

  434. snook Says:

    Sitting on leads is for losers

  435. Jason Aris Says:

    this is the G;men – we can’t try to hold onto the lead …

  436. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Ronde = beat
    Barron = a safety not playing deep enough

  437. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  438. Patrick Says:


  439. Jason Aris Says:


  440. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Un f-cking believable.

  441. raphael Says:

    somebody had Eli and missed

  442. lurker Says:

    that was a great timeout!

  443. snook Says:

    Horrible coaching.

  444. Justin Says:

    Maybe the Bucs will stop screwing around now and win the freaking game.

  445. Miguel Grande Says:

    Now the crowd is back in the game

  446. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Remember guys, this team is doing awfully well considering the opponent. No one outside of us homers picked them to win.

  447. Jbeachbuc Says:

    Nice play call Sully

  448. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    We need the 2010 Freeman now.

  449. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    There’s what your conservative offense earns you, Schiano. Or Sullivan. This sucks to watch.

  450. lurker Says:

    wow, wtf

    start fast, end slow, no blount…

  451. snook Says:

    Here comes a Freeman sack and/or INT .

  452. Justin Says:

    At least the TV announcers are happy with the game now

  453. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Have A Nice Day

    That is a very good attitude. πŸ™‚

  454. Have A Nice Day Says:

    It is going to be deafening when Freeman takes the field.

  455. Jbeachbuc Says:

    Errr.. Sherry /:

  456. snook Says:

    You can’t win in the NFL these days being conservative.

  457. Jason Aris Says:


  458. Architek Says:

    Man this blitzing is killing us.

  459. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Still not passing??? They need to pass on 2nd down.

  460. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    If we don’t score on this drive I’m turning it off and doing something better with my time.

  461. Patrick Says:

    Freeman has not been effective at all

  462. canadianbuc Says:

    we lose

  463. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    How was that not pass interference?

  464. Patrick Says:

    Remember guys………this is who we spent our first round pick on

  465. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I don’t care what you naysayers say…Freeman is a keeper.

  466. Jason Aris Says:

    BUCS O’ just INEFFECTIVE! CAN you imagine a 3 and out (fuming)

  467. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    F-ck you Tampa Bay. I’m out. What a waste of my afternoon.

  468. canadianbuc Says:

    Has Eli even been hit?

  469. Patrick Says:

    BAD SIGN: Sullivan is even more stubborn with Blount than Olsen

  470. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Look at Talib holding again.

  471. mark2001 Says:

    If we lose this one, it is on Shiano.

    Fourth and one at the 50 and we play not to lose.

    And a timeout and then an 80 yard TD? I’d be surprised if teams ran the ball more than 10 times a game against us the rest of the season.

  472. Justin Says:

    Have the giants gone 3 and out once this game?

  473. Have A Nice Day Says:

    If I kill myself tonight, it is Talib’s fault lol

  474. Architek Says:

    Our front four is getting worn down. No pressure without blitzing.

  475. Justin Says:

    Get outta here FBID.

  476. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Mark 2001

    I would say Schiano’s defense played the better game this week.

  477. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    I think our D is out of gas.

  478. Have A Nice Day Says:

    I wish Lavonte would have check out of that blitz.

  479. Rick330 Says:

    Eli releases the ball so fast the blitz will not work. Just paly cover 2 and keep them in front of you.

  480. Patrick Says:

    CHOKE CHOKE like Texas A&M.

  481. Rican Says:


  482. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Game over unless Freeman can do the same.

  483. Justin Says:

    Bucs are gassed, maybe time to stick a fork in em.


    were fkd

  485. Have A Nice Day Says:

    The lack of pressure, after seeing so much of it last week against a far better OL, is astounding.

  486. 13frain Says:

    Over 400 yard passing.

  487. lurker Says:

    freeman working within the system. i think he has been neutered.

  488. mark2001 Says:

    Talk about crash and burn. This could set us up for another long run of shame. We added a quite a bit of talent of year. When is the coaching going to make a difference?

  489. raphael Says:

    we blew it !

  490. lurker Says:

    really, really

  491. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Freeman cant play.

  492. Patrick Says:

    We played like Yucs in the second half that’s for sure!

  493. snook Says:

    I love 1st half Schiano. DESPISE 2nd half Schiano. What a joke. Why do we keep blitzing????? It’s not working.

  494. lurker Says:

    too conservative in the 2nd half.

  495. Miguel Grande Says:

    At least Sullivan will open up his play book now

  496. Rican Says:

    Idiotic defensive play calling and and a QB that just sucks

  497. Jason Aris Says:

    there isn’t much rotation for the D-line.
    We needed to O’ to have some long sustained drives
    remember guys, this is a team in MAJOR transition (coaches, players, coordinators) etc

  498. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Actually, we are still way short on talent. Probably need 8-9 new starters to be a SB contender. Including QB, 2 OL, TB, TE, 2 CB, OLB, S.

  499. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher

    Why are you defending Freeman!!! He’s sucked bad in this game. I mean…….a franchise QB should be able to make a long drive at least ONCE in the second half when you have a big lead like we had earlier.

  500. NJBucsFan Says:


  501. Justin Says:

    18 4th quarter points will kill you everytime.



  503. lurker Says:

    wow, manning stats

  504. Jason Aris Says:

    these are the New Yark Football Giants (Superbowl Champions)

  505. Miguel Grande Says:

    Maybe not

  506. Patrick Says:

    Unfortunaely , we HAVE to pass now.

  507. Have A Nice Day Says:

    The defense is just too tired.

  508. Horice Says:


  509. mark2001 Says:

    Amateur hour. Nice drafting Dom. Maybe as we got rid of major problem number 2 at the end of last year we can get rid of you, major problem number 1 at the end of this year.

  510. Jason Aris Says:

    D Clark!!!

  511. Rick330 Says:

    Finally a play to Clark..

  512. lurker Says:

    wtf, haters go home you losers!

  513. snook Says:

    What a joke.

  514. lurker Says:

    patrick, we run, run, 3rd and long. not exactly all freeman’s fault


    why are they takin so much time??

  516. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Finally we are throwing to the TE.

  517. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Better coaching now. Using Clark to pull off Jackson.

  518. Have A Nice Day Says:


  519. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  520. raphael Says:

    unbelievable !

  521. Justin Says:


  522. Rick330 Says:

    Where was this offense the whole second half?

  523. Patrick Says:

    Why does it always take being behind behind to finally wake us up?

    Keep it up Freeman!

  524. Jason Aris Says:


    again receiver has to make acrobatic catch

  525. Patrick Says:



    way to go!!!!!!

  527. Miguel Grande Says:

    Nice TD, who knew Dallas Clark was on the roster

  528. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Jason…it’s tight coverage. Stop complaining.

  529. snook Says:

    See what happens when you’re aggressive??????

  530. Rican Says:

    Now stop flippin blitzing when we CANNOT win the 1 on 1’s damit

  531. Jason Aris Says:

    who thought we coulda hung with the G’men… ?
    seriously – WHO?

    which one of you REALLY THOUGHT that?

    NOT ME!

  532. mark2001 Says:

    Watching the Colts blow their game too. Well, at least we have company…near the bottom, but we do have company.

  533. Z-Buc fan Says:

    Sorry, but I just don’t get the Freeman sucks thing. The Bucs play conservative offense, and the QB does what he’s supposed to. Including 4th quarter comebacks when they need them. How about focusing on the defense that keeps giving up 300-400 passing yards.

  534. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Jump ball Mike Will!

  535. Patrick Says:


  536. lurker Says:

    lol, where was this and clark all game?

  537. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:



    A pick 6 would be great right now, since the D got some time to rest.

  538. snook Says:

    Now….. NO MORE BLITZING. Make tard Eli beat coverage.

  539. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Oh, you negative Nancies are KILLING me, today.


  540. Rick330 Says:

    I agree Jason, I was just looking for effort and to play them close. It’s still a learning process. Hopefully win or lose they learn and make adjustments. Coaches and players

  541. lurker Says:

    just a 4 and out or a turnover will do, i’m not greedy for a pick 6

  542. Justin Says:

    Gerald who? He needs to take over the game if we want any chance of winning

  543. Jason Aris Says:

    IT’S Cool Pete. I’m not watching the game. I’m in Jamaica LOL.

    I was just making the comment. I just wonder about Freeman putting the ball on the right spot.
    Anyway enjoy the rest if the game …

  544. raphael Says:

    lets go D !

  545. Have A Nice Day Says:

    I am missing Wright so bad right now. McDonald is clearly not ready for a starting gig.

  546. Rick330 Says:

    Once again the blitz kills us.. get the hint, NO MORE BLITZES.

  547. lurker Says:

    how does that happen? wide open

  548. Jason Aris Says:

    hope McCoy (Geraldini) hasn’t pulled a Houdini.

    Did someone say – LET’S FORGET THE BLITZ –


  549. snook Says:

    Why do we blitz a safety all day? It doesn’t work. Morons.

  550. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    We’re one pick six away from a victory!

  551. BucNeckid Says:

    Where is the Freakin Pass Rush?!?!?!?!
    Blitz all day and Manning Too Smart
    or Secondary too bad
    = Giants points

  552. 13frain Says:

    Time to bench Talib

  553. Patrick Says:

    LET’S GO D!

    We need to hold on for this WIN and get healthy this week !

  554. mark2001 Says:


    Who would have thought Eli could play so badly, and we could have choked so badly. We had them by the throat. Are you saying the that if Eli hadn’t sucked so badly, the Giants should have won by 40 points, as they are that much better than we are? Well you might be right.

    Looks like Colts will pull it out. Stand aside Colts, we’re coming though. Of course, the way Dom drafts, what difference does it make?

  555. Justin Says:

    STOP BLITZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  556. Andrew Says:

    How come everyone seems to know where the ball is going except us? Still impressive game by Freeman IMO

  557. lurker Says:

    lloked to nicks the whole way

  558. Jason Aris Says:

    manning is at 500+ yds passing! aawww man

  559. raphael Says:

    talib can’t cover

  560. Miguel Grande Says:

    #237 How about one of those prayers now

  561. Rican Says:

    Again the blitz we deserve this loss end of story and than u tackle him so we can run out the clock.

  562. Patrick Says:

    Would’ve been better if they scored cause they’re gonna run it down!

  563. Justin Says:

    510 FREAKING PASS YARDS. THE BLITZ IS NOT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  564. Patrick Says:

    Should’ve let them score!!

  565. BucNeckid Says:


  566. Miguel Grande Says:


  567. Rican Says:

    So they*

  568. lurker Says:

    wow, the real miguel grande is not bad to be around.

  569. Have A Nice Day Says:

    lmao we were trying to let them score and he hit the ground.

  570. lurker Says:

    bulls lose, rays lose, bucs …

  571. BucNeckid Says:

    SO last year teams ran for records
    THIS year it is Record Pass Yards against us
    Common theme is
    Defensive Line is Horrible.

  572. Miguel Grande Says:

    Is that an example of the Schiano way??

    Laying down on defense?

    Bucs are going to be the laughingstock of the NFL if they don’t pull out a miracle

  573. snook Says:

    Hopefully the Bucs coaching staff learned a lesson today that I learned in middle school….. Dont sit on leads. and don’t blitz all day when it doesn’t work.

  574. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Well…at least they proved they can run with the big boys now. If they did this well against the Giants, once we get passed the Cowboys we should be pretty hard to beat.

  575. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Where was Dallas Clark before that drive?

  576. Jason Aris Says:

    we must agree – we HAVE BEEN competitive.
    let’s hope we can make a game of it.

    I think we all know that we’re a few pieces short of a big-time team (my humble opinion)

  577. mark2001 Says:

    Now special teams chimes in….what a waste.

  578. Have A Nice Day Says:

    @BucNekid Last week our DL destroyed the Panthers. The problem is clearly the coverage.

  579. Patrick Says:

    Is Raheem still the coach?????

  580. Justin Says:

    To put it in another perspective, never, in the history of pro football, have Bill Bellicheck and Greg Schiano lost the same day. Think about it.

  581. Rican Says:

    After the first blown 5 man to mans you think they would stop??? WTF!!!

  582. Jason Aris Says:


  583. Adam Says:

    Good job passing on Mo Claiborne. Bucs didn’t need a corner or anything

  584. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Te problems lie in a stagnant offense and poor coverage.

  585. lurker Says:

    damn, you hater suck…there are lots of positives

  586. Have A Nice Day Says:

    NO F’ING WAY!!!!!!!

  587. Justin Says:

    Adam, Mark Barron has had a great game. I’m happy with the pick.

  588. Jason Aris Says:


  589. Schmuckaneer Says:

    Lessons learned. Nicks is always allowed to push off but you can’t touch him. And this is what going conservative on offense too early gets you. Josh is eating up this secondary but they went soft way too early.

  590. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  591. raphael Says:

    perfect throw by Josh

  592. Jason Aris Says:

    PLEASE mike. hope your feet are in and ! catch made!

  593. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Tough call.

  594. lurker Says:

    i believe it is the playcalling holding freeman back

  595. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    3 steps inbounds.

  596. Rican Says:

    Wow what luck…

  597. Patrick Says:

    Wish Josh could’ve done this earlier.

    Trivia: We haven’t scored 40 points since the Super Bowl win

  598. Rick330 Says:

    that is a close call. I think it was a catch

  599. lurker Says:

    incomplete pass…

  600. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Two steps is possession right?

  601. Jason Aris Says:

    come on refs err on the side of the BUCS

  602. Miguel Grande Says:

    That was a completion

    Announcers suck

  603. lurker Says:

    these are new refs, they don’t know the rules

  604. Jason Aris Says:

    thanks for the trivia Patrick! re the 40 pts

  605. SkookumSmitty Says:

    What time does the riot start?

  606. Miguel Grande Says:

    and scabs suck

  607. Rick330 Says:

    crappy call.game!

  608. 1976Buc Says:

    Bad call!

  609. Justin Says:

    The Giants need a controversial call to beat the Bucs. They need to do some serious introspection.

  610. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Game over.

  611. lurker Says:

    we need a makeup call

  612. Patrick Says:

    F”K YOU REF!!

  613. Miguel Grande Says:

    WTF pick??

  614. Jason Aris Says:

    what riot Smitty?

  615. Patrick Says:

    Bucs get an F- for this piss poor 2nd half

  616. snook Says:

    Lots of positives my ass. Playing not to lose all half is for LOSERS

  617. Miguel Grande Says:

    That ball had to be in the end zone. WTF are they telling Freeman?

    Make sure the ball goes into the end zone

  618. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Well…I suppose we know why Schiano kept so many DBs.

  619. lurker Says:

    how is this team and coaching not better than last year’s 0-10 effort?

  620. mark2001 Says:

    Competitive…with Manning throwing three big picks.

    If it hadn’t been for these kind of gifts, it wouldn’t by any stretch of the imagination been competitive.

    My 8-8 looks pretty shaky. Like Troy said, good teams find a way to get it done. This team didn’t get it done….(and isn’t a very good team).

  621. Patrick Says:

    We had a chance to get noticed and respected today and we DIDN’T DO IT


    terrible call!!!

  623. Rick330 Says:

    Ok folks, We saw good things and some bad things from the team. Let’s hope next week they improve. See you then.

  624. J-VilleBuc Says:

    F U Josh Freeman F U!!!!!!!!!!!

  625. BucNeckid Says:

    Typical results of a Young team,
    Not enough depth to hold on…
    Too conservative on play calling
    Miss Davin Joseph more than you know…
    Bucs were not supposed to win this one from preseason out look…
    Season still looks more promising than 4-12 last year would lend you to believe
    Later Gents

  626. Jason Aris Says:

    receiver Must maintain possession when going to the ground!
    the RULE sucks!

    Is it unreasonable that a player is trying to break his fall when going to the ground and may release the ball as such?

  627. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Refs burned us 3 times in this game…and each time cost us badly.

  628. Jason Aris Says:

    Patrick? when was the last time we scored 34 pts?

  629. SteveK Says:

    Damn Freeman is mediocre.

    If he was playing like a 4th year pro, then we would’ve won

    Freeman looks shockingly mediocre.

  630. mark2001 Says:

    Lurker…they should be with the FA signings and high first round draft picks.

    Are we that much better? Well, we fooled Carolina, so I wouldn’t say that until I see more W’s, and who knows when that will come.

  631. lurker Says:

    well, snook, if you can’t see improvement then you are blind, ignorant, or too emotional. hysterical much?

  632. Patrick Says:

    Romo will have another career day against us if our D doesn’t get it together!!

  633. snook Says:

    Refs were horrible in this game too. Missed call on Martin facemask was big. But in the end, horrible game management lost this game.

  634. Jbrooks Says:

    Change the name of the team to the d*** Tampa bay safety blitzers. My god. Stop blitzing safeties and corners when we are getting killed onthe outside.

  635. Rrsrq Says:

    Wow, what happened to the rush and db’s

  636. espo Says:

    jason, it was incomplete.

    Well fought guys. Let’s beat the cowgirls next week.

  637. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    We really need to get Mike Williams, Dallas Clark, and Sammie Stroughter worked into the passing game earlier.

  638. lurker Says:

    there is no way i thought a turnaround would happen in one year. it is a multiyear effort. however, the effort is there. the teamwork is there. the coaching is there. the coordinators, well, i don’t know. they are new too.

  639. Patrick Says:

    Unfortunately Freeman is still a remnant of the Rah/Olsen era. Slow starts……finally started rolling at the end of the game.

  640. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Did we have any Defensive backs on the field today?

  641. REEZY Says:

    Bucs couldn’t hold the line in the fourth. I think I will go outside and cry now!

  642. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Hold on you negative Nancy’s.

    Patrick Says:
    September 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    We had a chance to get noticed and respected today and we DIDN’T DO IT


    This is simply not true. No one expected us to even compete in this game…and we controlled most of it. Against the Superbowl champs.

    To the contrary…I believe we earned some respect, even without a win.

  643. Patrick Says:

    “Well fought guys. Let’s beat the cowgirls next week.”

    Not happening if our D has another game like this.

    Romo has always torched our D everytime we play them.

  644. SteveK Says:

    Freeman has the talents to be elite, but does he have the brain or the balls?

    Anyone see Coughlin ripping Schiano after the game? Wonder what that was about?

  645. Jason Aris Says:

    never heard much from our D-line, but we weren’t overrun by their D-line also.

    We were supposed to get killed by their D-line. Decent job my the O’line?

  646. lurker Says:

    about all the injuries the bucs caused…lol

  647. Patrick Says:

    Freeman has always done this………suddenly wake up in the 4th quarter when it’s too late.

  648. snook Says:

    This was a win. But turning off your offense in the middle of the 3rd quarter is unacceptable. The Giants didn’t stop us all day until we got conservative. This loss is all on Schiano.

  649. Miguel Grande Says:

    Uh oh, a head coaching dust up at midfield

  650. Sgt Mike Says:

    Note to coaching staff: Barber should NEVER be left out for single deep coverage! Put McDonald back on the bars tool. What happened to the 2 headed monster of Martin and Blunt? We must figure out how to get both rolling at the same time! We put the ball in Freeman’s hands to either win or lose and he blew it, even if the scrub refs blew the previous call (expected)! I would say he better step up his game or he will go the way of his backup Orlovski. Heart breaker but Freeman and the second half defense blew it. Go Bucs!

  651. SteveK Says:

    Seriously, anytime Freeman wants to step up and deliver would be great.

    He has the potential to be a game changer, and it is time to SEE IT!

  652. Jason Aris Says:

    no Steve K. hopefully the media will ask coach about the Coughlin thing.

    did they shake hands?

  653. mark2001 Says:

    Folks…this is a new defense. Carolina had no idea what we were going to do. New York seemed to have a pretty good idea. Let’s see how our D holds up the next month. Then we will know if it is any better. I didn’t see it today. We have a better run defense, but we give up much more big plays. Most yards given up since the 1950’s. Seems like we took some things away and gave some things up.

    The judgment is out whether this team is really better or not.

  654. snook Says:

    Earned respect? No one respects us when we win. Why would they do it when we lose? Morons.

  655. vortexx Says:

    Need offense, let them play…. Defense trying to hold onto lead is
    a horrible way to play a game. Reminds me of dungy days…without the picks the bucs are blown out…. Spent alot of money on offense use it.

  656. lurker Says:

    love the holding every play by talib, lol. just like in the trenches, they don’t call it every time.

    kidding, of course. talib needs more discipline and help.

    also, where was blount.

  657. Patrick Says:

    “Most yards given up since the 1950β€²s.”

    Well what do you know?? Our defense sets yet another record.

  658. lurker Says:

    dallas down 10-naught to the saehawks

  659. snook Says:

    Our D still sucks. That’s for sure. I think we just blitzed and didn’t get through again! How many yards did we give up today? 600

  660. Jason Aris Says:

    easy now snook.

    any word on Buc injuries?

  661. lurker Says:

    we have a new record on the most idiotic crybaby fans since 1976.

  662. flmike Says:

    Wow, win or lose that was fun to watch. Way to many passing yards allowed, Talib being left alone to deal with Nicks all day was a mistake, Giants O-line did a nice job against our D-line we didn’t get the pressure we needed on Eli. Looks lime the Giants found a 3 down back in Brown. Nice day by VJax and Williams.

  663. Architek Says:

    I am not upset about the loss, I am upset about 510 passing yards. I hate to lose but this is a good benchmark.

  664. SteveK Says:

    @Jason Aris,

    The Bucs D angrily charged the last play when Eli was going to take a knee. NFL RedZone also said, “fists were thrown at the bottom of the pile…. The two coaches did not shake hands.”

  665. lurker Says:

    wow, the number of comments equals the number of yards given up, huh. or close to it, lol.

  666. raphael Says:

    Lol @ coughlin pissed at Shiano during the handshake !

  667. lurker Says:

    holycrap, i agree with architek

  668. lurker Says:

    well, that’s not bad if true, steve k. play to the whistle and the end of the game. new mentality that the bucs needed.

  669. Miguel Grande Says:

    Cowgirls and Romo next up

  670. Machiavellii Says:

    I remember warren sapp saying early in the preseason that his biggest concern with ronde at safety is that he is a gambler and will get caught out for the big play,which is exactly what happened on that80 yd td. But then again we weren’t complaining last week were we lol?

  671. Patrick Says:

    I’m really afraid of what Romo could do this defense. Wright needs to get healthy !

  672. Danny Says:

    Then RGIII.

  673. SteveK Says:


    C’mon man, WE BLEW IT!

    We should have put that game away. Our D got exposed bc Freeman isn’t the truth.

  674. Nick Says:

    Hey look at the bright side of things, the Buc’s now don’t have to pay Talib, he is no elite corner maybe not even a starting corner.

    P.S. wait till Atlanta get’s done with him, this guy is bad, move Ronda back to corner and let Black play free safety.

  675. Danny Says:

    If RGIII can put up 40 points on the Saints in NO, how much will he score here in a couple of weeks?

  676. Gus Says:

    Can’t believe this hasn’t been said yet but Mike Williams caught that ball. It would have put us closer and in position to win the game!

  677. Jason Aris Says:

    gus. apparently (I never saw it) he did NOT maintain possession going to the ground

  678. Patrick Says:


    That’s what happens when you have replacement refs!! F’k them!!

  679. Jason Aris Says:

    Corncern about Talib though. it seems like he was ‘abused”?

  680. Patrick Says:


    We’re being pretty fair critics here……….Freeman should be playing much better for a 1st round pick…..I like him, I’m just saying!

  681. Miguel Grande Says:

    Gus is right that was a catch and a fumble out of bounds

  682. Jbrooks Says:

    The point is Gus that we shouldn’t have been in that position. We wouldn’t stop blitzing safeties and corners even though Talib was having trouble with nicks. And we shut our offense down again in the second half. You can play like this if you wan to beat good teams. You can’t blitz safes every down.

  683. Nick Says:

    @Jason, abused ? , how about,


  684. Patrick Says:

    THIS JUST IN: Raheem Morris spotted on the Bucs sideline today.

  685. Jason Aris Says:

    man …
    Nick … it was THAT BAD? did he look banged up (hamstring)?
    or was he just schooled by a good receiver?
    as i said b4 I never saw the game

  686. Jason Aris Says:

    nick that’s a “graphic” response man!
    were his two hands tied behind his back?

  687. lurker Says:

    fair on freeman, perhaps. i just see it as he is being neutered. they are soooo worried about his turnovers that they have him being too conservative. he is not rolling out or running like 2010. he made some nice passes today and some not so good passes. i believe the playcalling, especially, the run on first, run on second, now its 3rd and long is not helping his situation.

  688. Jason Aris Says:

    aw Patrick …

    Raheem ‘hangover” still happening?

  689. Jason Aris Says:

    it could be Lurker – re freeman.
    I think the O-coordinator is still trying to figure out how best to use Freeman, and what calls to make when.
    As I said b4, this is a team in MAJOR transition!

  690. Rican Says:

    The only thing that got us beat was the stupidity of our insistent blitzing leaving the man to man coverage. It was like we literally wanted to lose? 3 times in a row? What? That literally is laughable. It’s a joke.

  691. Architek Says:

    Talib got lit up like Christmas light though, ugh they put on a route clinic for Talib.

  692. Architek Says:

    Lurker whatever your statement was intended for, I am and will always try to be fair but I just say the things some of you may be afraid to say or look at. I see so many little details being missed with these players and you dont have to be a proofessional to see it. Mike Williams double move hurt, dropped screens by Martin, and busted details on rerouting receivers to help by the secondary costs us big time. My God the DLine just looked overmatched today.

    I strongly agree that we are going to be a very good team this year but these are the fine print things that separate winning teams from losing teams. We have to get pass playing with the big boys to beating the big boys by doing what the bog boys do. Also Dallas Clark has be utilized more often on 3rd down earlier to help us. I am very happy with what Schiano is doing with this franchise.

    As to your remark, I have no negative words for you. I am not a part of any of you all childish alliances.