Bucs At Cowboys, Open Thread

September 23rd, 2012

OK boys and girls, here’s your weekly playpen to hash things bout during a Bucs game. As always, please behave and while you cannot post links to pirated feeds of games, you may e-mail them among yourselves. Joe hopes you enjoy the game.

618 Responses to “Bucs At Cowboys, Open Thread”

  1. Jordan Says:

    I’ve got a good feeling about this game. The cowboys have had our number as of late, but IF we can get some pressure on Romo today, I think the Bucs win this one pulling away….27-14 Bucs!! I also think Dallas Clark has a big day in Dallas and Martin gets his first 100yd. Rushing day! GO BUCS!!!

  2. BUCTIME Says:

    That sounds good to me!

  3. Dylan Says:

    Adrian claybourne will get his first sack. Aqib will get his first pick. #BoldPrediction

  4. MadMax Says:

    I wanna see Melissa Stark in that little outfit…yum…

    Hope we pick on moclay all day. The cowgirls have a way of throwing pie in their own faces the last 10 years, so with this being the home opener of 2012, what better time or place to showcase that!! LOL!! Thats just the feeling I have. Romo will either choke or be on….I hope he chokes.

  5. BamBamBuc Says:

    Bucs will beat down the over-rated Cowboys 31-20. We beat the over-rated Panthers, pushed the very good Giants team to the final seconds. This week we start putting it all together in all 3 phases, play a full 60 minutes and don’t give the Boys a chance to come back.

  6. Erick Says:


  7. Patrick Says:

    You guys are stretching it. Romo has embarrassed our defense everytime he’s played us since 2006.

    We need to get our s*it together early on, get a lead, and EXPAND on it. Don’t just get a lead and expect our defense to hold on the entire time like the last game!

  8. bucfan593 Says:

    I think if we hold demarco murry under 100 yards it = a win

  9. raphael Says:

    who is gonna cover V-Jax ? lol

  10. USMC-BUC Says:

    I heard this week that AC has been dealing with a personal issue the past few months and has hurt his focus.

    I read this morning that His Father is dying and may have passed away this weekend.

    possible reason the Media has not gotten after him.

  11. bjburgh1 Says:


  12. Mr Lucky Says:

    Wow what are you guys smoking and can I have some?

    This is a Dallas team that beat the Giants – the Giants HUMILIATED the Bucs in the 4th Quarter —– REMEMBER?

    It must be nice to live in the land of make believe.

  13. Mr Lucky Says:

    I be happy to see the Bucs keep it close and competitive. Maybe put together 3 good quarters of error free football.

  14. Mr Lucky Says:

    You know you guys are on the Tampa Bay Bucs page and not the 49ers page right?

  15. rhenry Says:

    The Cowboy’s defense is ravaged by injury. If our offense cannot capitalize, we are going to be in for a long day.

  16. bucfan593 Says:

    I expec a big day from mark barron to make jerry jones regret passing on him for mo claybornand in the same breth it would be nice to make him look overrateda few times

  17. lurker Says:

    go bucs!

    have fun. i can’t see the game but hope we win.

  18. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    It appears Bucs fans are the only ones picking them to win.

    I actually picked this one as a loss before the season started…mainly because the Cowgirls seem to beat us every time.

    But I would SOOOO love it if the Bucs won this one. Win or lose though…we start a chain of wins next week.

  19. Sensiblebuc Says:

    I agree Mr. Lucky. I’m as much of a homer as the next guy but as long as we keep it close an put together a varied offensive attack I’ll be happy.

  20. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Bucs 27
    Cowboys 24

  21. SkookumSmitty Says:


  22. raphael Says:


  23. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Good call on Talib Dylan.

  24. Sensiblebuc Says:


  25. SkookumSmitty Says:

    LOL, So. Ill…I actually scrolled up, to see who said it.

  26. Sensiblebuc Says:

    “We need 6 here 5”

    -Me. Just now.

  27. Miguel Grande Says:

    Dylan, have any good lotto numbers?

  28. SkookumSmitty Says:

    3 penalties, and an INT in the first TWO MINUTES of play?


  29. SensibleBuc Says:

    Run it again on 4th coach

  30. SensibleBuc Says:

    That’s what I’m talking about. We need to impose our will on them

  31. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Nicely done!

  32. SensibleBuc Says:

    WOO HOO!

  33. BucNeckid Says:

    Luke who
    First stocker siteing of the year

  34. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Third game in a row we scored on opening drive isn’t it?

  35. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Finally Stocker gets a catch and touchdown. Nice Playcalling too.

  36. Bobby Says:

    Love this team!

  37. Miguel Grande Says:

    I guess we’re running behind Nicks today

  38. Jason Says:

    Huge drive

  39. BucNeckid Says:

    Run Defense looking stout

  40. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Tampa is looking great! The video’s here are going off, even w/o clicking on them.

  41. BucNeckid Says:

    Love that second week in a row we get the Fox A-team
    Last wek the Bucs got notoriety
    This week Time for the Bucs to get some respect

  42. Miguel Grande Says:

    McCoy makes a play

  43. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Good play by Clayborn, but it looked like he was real slow off the ball.

  44. BucNeckid Says:

    Hitting romo all day

  45. BucNeckid Says:

    WTF Dallas

  46. BucNeckid Says:

    At least one good thing has changed this year on Defense
    You cannot run on the Bucs

  47. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Two stops for loss by Clayborn, nice.

  48. BucNeckid Says:

    Another penalty

  49. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Wow, the Cowboys are RATTLED.

  50. Miguel Grande Says:

    Cowgirls are killing themselves with penalties

  51. BucNeckid Says:

    Waiting for the Dallas Boo Birds….

  52. BucNeckid Says:

    What about D.Clark?

  53. So. Ill. Bucs Says:


  54. BucNeckid Says:

    Every Week you never know what Freeman is going to show up…

  55. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    BucNeckid, don’t EVEN try to say that was Freeman’s fault. Ware tipped it in the air.

  56. Miguel Grande Says:

    That sucked, looked like the 4th quarter last week

  57. UK_Buc Says:

    Agree with Pete….maybe he put a bit of much power into the throw, but you would expect Ware, asa a 3rd down specialist back, to catch that when wide open…

  58. bjburgh1 Says:


  59. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Video ads here are going off, w/o you clicking ON them!
    I am streaming the game as I post here, and it gets annoying because the ads here are drowning out the game.
    Is it just me, or has anyone else experienced this ?

  60. BucNeckid Says:

    I don’t hear them
    But i have the computer sound off

  61. Patrick Says:

    Can’t even convert a simple 3rd and 1!! Freeman looked clueless on that play!

    This offense sucks balls.

  62. SensibleBuc Says:

    Welp. This is looking rough.

  63. Patrick Says:

    F’king FREEMAN

  64. BucNeckid Says:

    STill not buying Freeman today
    How long are going to hold it #5?
    I know that it is Ware
    but Geesh

  65. SensibleBuc Says:

    Let’s just keep it close lol

  66. BucNeckid Says:

    #5 is Captain Check Down Again

  67. bjburgh1 Says:


  68. Patrick Says:

    The INT wasn’t his fault but he’s had a fumble and a botched snap. Looking sloppy.

  69. SensibleBuc Says:


    Get google chrome and download ad blocker plus. I never get any vids on here

  70. Miguel Grande Says:

    Both teams look sloppy

  71. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Freeman is making mistakes again, he held the ball too long on a 3 step drop.
    He missed the handoff to Martin as well.

  72. SensibleBuc Says:

    Dallas is keeping us in the game. Good lord

  73. BucNeckid Says:

    AND We can’t take advantage of this sloppy Dallas team!!!!

  74. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    LOL, that referee sounds exactly like Peyton Manning!

  75. BucNeckid Says:

    Missed a pick six there

  76. SensibleBuc Says:

    Anybody impressed with Shipley?

  77. Miguel Grande Says:

    Why not rush Romo in the end zone?

  78. BucNeckid Says:

    Let’s see them stretch the field with a first down bomb
    Challenge Carr at Safety

  79. SensibleBuc Says:

    That was a terrible tackle by Talib *sigh*

  80. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Shipley looks sure handed, and made something out of nothing!

  81. BucNeckid Says:

    Shipley looks as good as anybody the bucs have had.
    That time made something from nothing
    but not impressed too much…

  82. Architek Says:

    Freeman has got to stop locking in on one side of the field.

  83. bjburgh1 Says:


  84. BucNeckid Says:

    Freemnan gets crushed and a Penalty

  85. BucNeckid Says:

    First Down on the penalty

  86. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    There goes that Peyton Manning Referee again, LOL

  87. BucNeckid Says:

    Little guy
    Can’t help it sometimes
    most guys you grab at that height range you hit their chest

  88. SensibleBuc Says:


    Keep it simple. Plus our DBs would probably get toasted see: Manning, Eli

  89. Patrick Says:

    Freeman has really sucked

  90. BucNeckid Says:

    Bad Play Call

  91. BucNeckid Says:

    Koenen is MVP of the Offense again this game
    Looks a lot like last year except the improved Defense

  92. Miguel Grande Says:

    Freeman threw that too soon

  93. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    When Freeman saw that guy right ON Dallas Clark, he should have just took off, instead of thrown it.

  94. bjburgh1 Says:


  95. BucNeckid Says:

    Now i’m not impressed with Shipley

  96. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Can we get a punt returner?

  97. Bobby Says:

    Schiano is gonna be pissed!!!

  98. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    That blows

  99. bjburgh1 Says:


  100. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    HIRE GREG OLSON!!!!!!!!

  101. BucNeckid Says:

    How do you double dip on that?
    Fumble recovery AND the penalty???

  102. Miguel Grande Says:


    We’re out-sloppying the Cowgirls

  103. Sensiblebuc Says:

    LMAO Bucneckid

  104. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Those Cowboys are really…jumping the gun. lol

  105. Gt40bear Says:

    Can the Bucs Offense and Special Teams get their heads out of their collective asses?

  106. Sensiblebuc Says:

    This crap is embarrassing

  107. Patrick Says:

    Freeman has not proven he’s a franchise QB. At all. I’m think I’m being pretty fair.

  108. Rican Says:

    I’ll go on record and say there is no more grace with Free. It’s this season or we are looking for another answer. Our defense is doing its job, at some point out offense had to respond. And I’m not talking about when it’s too late and most of the game is gone and done with.

  109. Rican Says:


  110. Miguel Grande Says:

    Cowgirls suck!

  111. Rican Says:

    Free is playing scared aswell

  112. Stanglassman Says:

    Mccoy looks like he put on 20 lbs of muscle.

  113. BucNeckid Says:

    New offense for #5 so i am going to give him a little bit more grace period.
    But he still looks clueless

  114. BucNeckid Says:

    Sandlot football

  115. Rican Says:

    Lets get some points here guys…

  116. bjburgh1 Says:


  117. BucNeckid Says:

    is this what Schiano calls a disciplined team?

  118. Miguel Grande Says:

    Receiver slips on a ref’s hat? That’s something you don’t see everyday

  119. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Yeah, Blount!

  120. OptimisTroll Says:

    and blount is the best running back on the team.

  121. SkookumSmitty Says:

    One trick hurdler?

  122. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Finally…Blount gets a shot…and gets 11 yards!

  123. Miguel Grande Says:

    Blount sighting!!!

  124. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Who’s that #27 guy? Is he new to the team?

  125. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    BucNeckid, it’s not Freeman that is clueless. Remember…two receivers were added this week. It’s easy to blame the QB…but usually it’s not totally his fault.

  126. Miguel Grande Says:

    Release the secret weapon!!!

  127. Rican Says:

    At this point I just wanna see some first downs and convincing ball movement. That too much to ask for?

  128. Stanglassman Says:

    you understand that if he doesn’t hurdle he gets hit low and goes down right? Seems to work til they go high and get run over.

  129. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Yeah, like the hurdle, was just being silly.

  130. Rican Says:

    What the hell dude?!?! Lol I guess it is too much to ask for. Free gonna dump it off like every pass so far?

  131. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    I’m starting the Matt Barkley rumor RIGHT NOW!

  132. BucNeckid Says:

    Since stats are for losers…
    Here are some losing stats
    Freeman 5/10 28 yards 1 td 1 int.
    V-Jackson 0 catches
    D.Martin 9 carries for 31 yards
    Zero Sacks
    1 interception

  133. bjburgh1 Says:


  134. Patrick Says:


    USC QB’s are terrible. See: Mark Sanchez and Matt Leinart

  135. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    This penalty fest is a snoozer.

  136. Gt40bear Says:

    Josh SUCKS! I’ve been a Freeman guy to this point but I’m beginning to believe he’s as good as he’s ever gonna be. Doesn’t’ help that the entire offense can’t get out of it’s own way. I’m loving this “toes on the line” discipline! NOT!

  137. jglazer Says:

    Is Tony Dungy on the sideline again? I see his offense.

  138. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Nice Sniffing out by Talib.

  139. BucNeckid Says:

    Two New receivers yes but they are down on the depth chart
    V Jax ZERO Catches
    Williams One for 10 yard
    D.Clark 1 catch for ZERO Yards
    You cannot win without using your firepower optimally

  140. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    BjBurgh that 5 yards gives us a better punt situation.

  141. Patrick Says:


    Nothing wrong with Schiano.

    There’s no excuses for Freeman anymore. He’s got the best receiving core he’s ever had.

  142. Miguel Grande Says:

    “Very erratic, undisciplined 30 minutes of play.”

    Wonder if they got any of those Tex-Mex hot dogs for Schiano at halftime. Maybe a halftime siesta?

  143. BucNeckid Says:

    Finally a sack
    Good Job

  144. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    McCoy & Bennet, good job.

  145. Miguel Grande Says:

    OMG, a McCoy sack

  146. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Vincent Jackson was defending Dez Bryant on that play.

  147. BucNeckid Says:

    So last week the BUcs are accused of playing to the end of the game by rushing on a Kneel Down
    This week the Cowboys Throw a Hail Mary at the end of the half while in the lead.
    Any Problem with that?

  148. Bobby Says:

    The thing I like about this year is that I actually have to watch the second half to see who wins….

  149. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    That has got to go down as the absolute WORST 30 minutes of football I have EVER seen. Not inlcuding last year’s henious 10-game losing streak. Let’s see what Orlovsky can do!!!!

  150. Rican Says:

    A joke if a performance so far and a waste of a nice defensive effort by a porous offense led by a scared Free.

  151. Patrick Says:

    Maybe Freeman will wake up in the 4th quarter…….LMAO

  152. Patrick Says:

    Brad Johnson and Jeff Garcia never even had games like this.

  153. Drew H. Says:

    There are a few things that I would like to address from this game. First of all, Blount is electric and his dissapearance has made this offense one dimensional. This leads me to my second and most painful point of the game, Josh Freeman may not be the answer we all have naively believed. He’s loveable, yes. Before I pass judgement on him I have to see more of Mike Sullivan’s offense to see if its the system or the man with the throws. All I know is Josh’s confidence seems to be low and I have a pain in my stomach everytime he throws the ball, it’s either genius, an INT or a pass to the flats on some short fullback pass junk…. All of these things can be fixed, but we look just as predictable as last year. DOUGH MARTIN IS NOT RAY RICE (yet), the bruiser Blount needs to change this up. I’m sick of hearing about our dynamic backfield and change of pace backs that compliment eachother so well. They don’t compliment sh*t if there’s only one in for 90%+ of the snaps. Let the dog out of the doghouse… Joe please explain this.

    Oh yeah, this defensive front seven is for real. Way to be Schiano and Billy Sher, our secondaries are as bi-polar as it gets. Getting burned or burning, “thats our defense”. Way to swarm to the ball everyone, except for that pass to Jones on 3rd and long when 3 bucs let him by to get stopped for 4th and 1.

    THOUGHTS?! LET’s GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smash these Cowboys at home, no one cares about a team that almost won against the Giants and the Cowboys at home. Talk them down and come and punch them in the face this second half.

  154. Gt40bear Says:

    Not saying anything about Schiano, love him so far. It’s the players I’m ticked off at. Schiano isn’t the one committing bone-head penalties! Feet need to be planted firmly up some butts at halftime. Defense deserves much better in this game.

  155. grif4foozball Says:

    Our defense looks way better than theirs,FREEMAN IS MAKING THEIR DEFENSE LOOK GOOD!

  156. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    We need some Mike Will slants.

  157. Patrick Says:


  158. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Not sure if this game is inspiring enough to go and buy tickets for Tampa Bay’s next home game.

  159. Berserker Ryan Says:

    Give the ball to Blount.

  160. Mr Lucky Says:

    It’s so sad that the Bucs don’t have a QB to go with their defense!

  161. jglazer Says:

    Unfortunately much like last weeek, our defense while good is on the field too long. Our offense S**Ks and the defense is having to work harder as a result. I’m just hoping that because of the new coach and new players on offense, it is taking some time to get the offense on the same page. Perhaps this is partly due to the constant dropping then picking up the same players a few weeks later.

  162. Rican Says:

    Most definitely not.

  163. raphael Says:

    LOL @ the Freeman haters….he doesn’t have time to throw downfield you Dolts !

  164. Mr Lucky Says:

    Running passes won’t help.

    Freeman can’t hit the side of a barn.

  165. BucNeckid Says:

    Everything starts with Freeman
    I am tired of him staring down receivers and
    Holding on to the ball too long
    First year in this offense or not
    he has been a starter TOO LONG to be making these types of errors.

  166. Mr Lucky Says:

    @raphael – What has Freeman done in 2012?

    I’ll tell you what – the same $hit he did in 2011. Freeman is nothing more than a young Trent Dilfer.

  167. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    LMAO…especially on that three step drop where he should have thrown it instead of getting happy feet and getting sacked/fumbling the ball….DOLT!!!!!!

  168. grif4foozball Says:

    Matt Barkley????

  169. BucNeckid Says:

    He does not even pull the trigger on a three step drop!!

  170. Mr Lucky Says:


    Tampa can’t throw no stiknking passses

    Once again he stares down a receiver and throws off his back foot

  171. Rican Says:

    Get off Free’s genitals and watch the game.

  172. Mr Lucky Says:

    Well it’s time to look at the 2012 college QB’s because at this rate that’s what Schiano’s going to be looking for in the upcoming draft.

  173. jglazer Says:

    While Freeman has sucked, he is only24. He’s had numerous coaching changes and limited training last year due to the labor dispute. Let’s not run him out of town yet. I can’t imagine our backup doing much better.

  174. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Here we go with the ugly 3 and outs again

  175. BucNeckid Says:

    Poor touch on that pass
    Had the receiver caught that he would have been lit up

  176. Patrick Says:


    You mean watch Freeman’s incompletions?

  177. bjburgh1 Says:


  178. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Freeman blows.

  179. Rican Says:

    There going to blitz us all day cause they see how scared he’s playing.

  180. Miguel Grande Says:

    If the Bucs has any sense at all, they would give Blount the ball 15 times in the 2nd half and win going away.

    First, they would have to get together and discuss the up coming half. You know that’s not going to happen.

    I warned that the Cowgirls wouldn’t be kneeling, it will be bombs away!

  181. raphael Says:

    they are double covering V-jax and we need to get some good play calls…

  182. Patrick Says:

    Our defense can only play well for so long when the offense can’t play worth a damn.

  183. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Freeman’s wonderlic of 11 is showing today. Poor guy can’t focus.

  184. Mr Lucky Says:

    What’s so sad is that the Glazers and Dominik actually spent $$$$ to get Freeman weapons but you can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Who’s the Buc’s backup QB’s?

  185. Rican Says:

    @Patrick exactly : /

  186. Justin Says:

    The Rays game is more exciting.

  187. jglazer Says:

    Tony Dungy called. He wants his offense back.

    Actually Tony’s offense would have run a 6 yard route on a 3rd and 8.

  188. Patrick Says:

    Pissing me off how Blount is basically NOT part of this offense anymore!

  189. BucNeckid Says:

    Have to sustain a drive on offense
    or our defense is going to get too tired and start giving up the big play

  190. BucNeckid Says:

    Time to self that Blitz
    it equals a first down every time

  191. Rican Says:

    And here it goes

  192. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Here come the cowgirls…this drive will determine the outcome of the game.

  193. BucNeckid Says:

    ^Shelf that Blitz

  194. Patrick Says:

    The Bucs are never gonna beat the Cowboys are they?? I’m being embarrassed once again!

  195. BucNeckid Says:

    Difference betweeen this week and last week is that Dallas cannot make the plays that Eli and the Giants were making

  196. bjburgh1 Says:


  197. BucNeckid Says:

    That was at least an intentional grounding
    Maybe a fumble
    But it is IN Dallas
    so the Bucs will get screwed on this

  198. Patrick Says:

    Challenge is worth it cause if the Cowboys score a TD the game will be over. Being that our offense can’t do anything.

  199. Bobby Says:

    These refs just suck..

  200. evo Says:

    Am i the only person here who doesn’t understand why blount isnt getting the ball? Im started to think our new coach is a liar. Blount seems just fine. So its not an injury issue. He promised us two backs pounding the ball. Yet martin is getting nothing. Yet no blount after 14 yards on two carries. I don’t get it.

  201. raphael Says:

    some of you guys are not Buc fans …obviously !

  202. Patrick Says:

    Raphael shut up

  203. Miguel Grande Says:

    McCoy screwed out of a sack

  204. Patrick Says:

    We have better fans than the Cowboys!! They are on Romo’s ass all the time and he’s actually a good QB. We’ve been patient with Freeman.

  205. BucNeckid Says:


  206. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Yeah, stripsack!

  207. BucNeckid Says:

    Sack and Fumble

  208. Patrick Says:

    Great challenge by Schiano!!

  209. BucNeckid Says:

    Are you fricking kidding?
    Another first down run
    Is Ray Perkins Coaching this offense?

  210. BucNeckid Says:

    Freemans eyes were on Jackson all the way

  211. Patrick Says:

    Just keep it on the ground, my heart stops everytime Freeman passes.

  212. Miguel Grande Says:

    2 sacks in 1 game for McCoy, Miracle

  213. BucNeckid Says:

    so every first down is going to be a running play

  214. Patrick Says:

    Blount not being used = disgraceful

  215. BucNeckid Says:

    Fake Bennd around

  216. Rican Says:

    No we just aren’t Homers

  217. Patrick Says:

    GO FOR IT.

  218. bjburgh1 Says:


  219. BucNeckid Says:

    Good spot

  220. BucNeckid Says:

    Safety Limps off
    wanna bet they run on first down?

  221. BucNeckid Says:


  222. Patrick Says:

    Change it up!!! We have a 1,000 yard rusher on our roster in case they forgot!!!

  223. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Doug Martin will be on IR by week 9.

  224. Justin Says:

    Freeman looks terrible today! He doesn’t look at all like a playmaker. I feel like he is being absorbed into a “system”, which is fine if he succeeds. If not, he’s just Dilfer.

  225. Mr Lucky Says:

    Hey thats the way for the Bucs to move the ball, have Freeman make crappy passes and pray for pass interference

  226. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Happy feet Blount for 2.

  227. Rican Says:

    Ummm I don’t think so and certainly hope not.

  228. Mr Lucky Says:


    Trent Dilfer just called and said that Freeman is NO Trent Dilfer

  229. BucNeckid Says:

    Are we ahead or losing?
    WTF is up with Run, Run, Run?

  230. Patrick Says:

    Blount was averaging 6 yards a carry before that carry. Gotta use him more.

  231. BucNeckid Says:

    Pro Bowl game for Koenen

  232. bjburgh1 Says:


  233. Rican Says:

    So so so so SAD

  234. Patrick Says:

    Congratulations we just passed 100 yards of offense!!

  235. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Unless we score defensively or on special teams….we will NOT score again in this game.

  236. raphael Says:

    @ lucky….the Bucs called and they said you don,t know anything …

  237. Mr Lucky Says:

    We HAVE to run, run, run because Freeman

    Can’t Pass, Pass, pass…

    Josh’s head is up his azz – again

  238. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    This offense looks like Greg Olsen’s offense.

  239. RustyRhino Says:

    What is wrong with #5??? is he under pressure running for his life 6/15 for 39 yards

  240. Justin Says:

    Patrick that’s so sad. We should have had 100yds of offense after the first two drives.

  241. Rican Says:

    Well they hav seen that freeman just can’t pass so they have decided to run. Even with the blitzes Free cant hit the short routes.

  242. BucNeckid Says:

    There has to be something going on.
    The Bucs have not been successful once trying to stretch the field

  243. Mr Lucky Says:

    And you guys were complaining about Tebow? At least Tebow would have sold some tickets.

  244. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Really hating these play calls for the offense. We have weapons to go downfield and were chugging out a yard or two per play. Sucks to watch this garbage. On a lighter note, our D is looking beautiful

  245. Patrick Says:

    We can’t even score a FIELD GOAL to tie it up!! Our defense is probably very pissed.

  246. BucNeckid Says:

    Aqib is everybody’s Beyatch this year

  247. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Can we at least TRY to pass longer than 10 yards?

  248. RustyRhino Says:

    slow the game keep it close win on the last drive

  249. BucNeckid Says:

    Helmet to helmet

  250. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Hold them to 3 here!!!!!!

  251. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Good thing I started Romo and sat Freeman in fantasy.

    Freeman doesnt even have trade value.

  252. Justin Says:

    Mason Foster has been an absolute BEAST out there today. He’s blown up a ton of plays in the backfield.

  253. Gt40bear Says:

    It’s not just Josh, in fairness. The “strength of the team” offensive line is blowing chunks too.

  254. Justin Says:

    WOW! that had to hurt.

  255. SensibleBuc Says:

    Dude…that was a HELLUVA sack

  256. BucNeckid Says:

    Challenge that one too

  257. SensibleBuc Says:

    Damn and the refs blew it dead. That’s a scoop and score.

  258. raphael Says:

    should be a TD

  259. Patrick Says:

    We would be killing the Cowboys right now if Freeman was just playing average.

  260. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Bookends much? Loving the defense, looks like they are getting into a groove.

  261. Bobby Says:

    Can we PLEASE have the regular refs back??!!??

  262. RustyRhino Says:


  263. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Spoke too soon 🙂

    2 fumbles and an int. Neither are doing any good.

  264. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    So…obviously that was a fumble…and the refs just cost us a touchdown. Because they blew the whistle, the TD will not count.

  265. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    We get the ball back, then lets run it again for three and out to kick a field goal….

  266. bjburgh1 Says:


  267. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Can we get Blount and Martin in the backfield at the same time?

  268. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Should have let the TD happen… then made Dallas challenge the play.

  269. Patrick Says:


  270. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Our offensive line is blocking like crap today.

  271. Rican Says:


  272. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    LMAO….even Shiano hesitated before throwing the flag.

  273. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Dont need the TD. Freeman will drive us down for a TD.

  274. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Why aren’t we checking to slants?

  275. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Come on Freeman!!!

  276. SensibleBuc Says:

    We’re so pitiful lol

  277. Rican Says:

    If we can’t even get a flipping FG I am gonna freaking flip WTF WTF WTF

  278. Justin Says:

    Great defense by Jenkins. USF standout

  279. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Here comes Keonen

  280. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Jackson is killing us

  281. Patrick Says:

    Freeman is HORRIBLE

  282. Fear The Glow Says:

    Are there any awards for most mediocre offense?

  283. Mr Lucky Says:

    Nice freaking pass Freeman – NOT

  284. Gt40bear Says:

    For 9 mil. A yr. Jackson has to make that play. And can we please bench Freeman!

  285. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    That was also NOT Freeman’s fault?

  286. Patrick Says:

    Can’t even go 10 yards and give Barth a shot at a FG.

  287. RustyRhino Says:

    this sucks

  288. SensibleBuc Says:

    Anybody blaming Jackson has never run a post in their life

  289. raphael Says:

    great pass actually ! anywhere else and its a INT?

  290. Patrick Says:

    Freeman threw that pass WAY behind Jackson……..you guys are blaming the wrong guy.

  291. grif4foozball Says:

    If only we had a QB,we could be 3-0 🙁

  292. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    Freeman hasn’t had a chance to get in a rhythm, we need so high easy passes to get him going.

  293. Justin Says:

    Fear the glow I don’t think we would win that award.

  294. BucNeckid Says:

    That drive was ALL Freeman
    and that is not good.
    First down Intentional Grounding
    Second Down Bad Pass that V-Jax did not bail him out of this time
    Third Down Bad Pass behind V-Jax.
    Punt = ZERO Points off an excellent opportunity
    What a Waste

  295. Rican Says:

    It’s honestly painful to watch this. Very painful.

  296. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    *some easy

  297. Bobby Says:

    Freeman needs to buy the defense dinner and send an apology letter to every player. He has sucked this game.

  298. Gt40bear Says:

    FREAKING PUTRID!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAGH! Not even a FG attempt out of that!

  299. Erick Says:

    Put in orlovsky! Get that freaking bum out of there!!

  300. rhenry Says:

    Freeman f*******ing sucks. Deer in the headlights. We need to rid ourselves of this smuck.

  301. FloridaGirl Says:

    Put Orvlosky into the game

  302. Patrick Says:


  303. SensibleBuc Says:

    That was an awesome announcer jinx by Troy Aikman. Well played #8

  304. Jason Aris Says:

    Is V-Jax the ONLY receiver on the field?

  305. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    BucNeckid Says:
    September 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    That drive was ALL Freeman
    and that is not good.


    Okay, BucNeckid…are you not seeing how poorly the offensive line is performing for the man??? Agenda much?

  306. Justin Says:

    Dallas look HORRIBLE today. What does that say about us?

  307. Mr Lucky Says:

    I’m so glad we got Eric Wright!

  308. Horice Says:

    It was only a matter of time before OUR anemic offense got us in trouble. Is it unfair to ask for an offense that moves the chains???

  309. Rican Says:

    Whelp defense can only do so much. Sorry guys

  310. Bobby Says:

    I never thought I’d miss Greg Olson…

  311. Jason Aris Says:

    Well our Defence is ONCE again being asked to BAIL OUT the offence!

  312. Mad Mark Says:

    WTF …comon man …maybe bench Freeman? …do something! just give Blount the ball if nothing else.

  313. SensibleBuc Says:

    Mercifully there’s only one more quarter. Who do we play next week?

  314. BucNeckid Says:

    Lucky Break for the Bucs

  315. bjburgh1 Says:


  316. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    This is like watching any game from last year’s 10 game losing streak except we have a better defense.

  317. BucNeckid Says:

    This team reminds me a lot of the Bucs when Dungy took over.
    Great Defense
    Offense sucked with good enough players around a QB Deficiency

  318. Patrick Says:

    I miss Jeff Garcia!!

  319. Patrick Says:

    I miss Jeff Garcia!!

  320. Rican Says:

    I don’t see how if we loose this L doesn’t go solely on Free’d suck ass performance.

  321. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    You people really need to calm down, lol.

    First, it’s your own fault for expecting too much of this team when everything is so new to them.

    Second…the chances of us winning this game were slim anyway…and you should have known that.

    Third…I think we can still win this game. MAYBE.

  322. SteveK Says:

    Freeman, where the hell is your head? Everybody is playing well but you. We can’t run the ball when you can’t throw for sh!t.

    Tebow can pass this well.

  323. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


  324. Justin Says:

    I can’t stand listening to Buck and Acheman.

  325. Jason Aris Says:

    Shaun King anyone?

  326. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher……..give me a f’kn break! Freeman is in his 4TH season, he’s playing worse than his rookie season!

  327. raphael Says:

    bunch of crybabies,,,,,,,

  328. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Hold them to 3

  329. Gt40bear Says:

    Except for pick, Talib is getting schooled again!

  330. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    SteveK Says:
    September 23rd, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Freeman, where the hell is your head? Everybody is playing well but you. We can’t run the ball when you can’t throw for sh!t.

    Put on the Brakes, Steve. Everyone is not playing well. Have you not noticed the OFFENSIVE LINE failing to pass protect AND failing to run block?

  331. SteveK Says:

    F that Dutcher. They are paid millions of $ to win. It’s now or never. Freeman needs to step up. No excuses. 4th year in the league, time to see if he is the answer.

  332. Justin Says:


  333. Patrick Says:


  334. Justin Says:


  335. SensibleBuc Says:


    I kinda figured we weren’t going to win (I had this as a loss on to our 6-10 season) but I’d like to see a week to week improvement. We’re all over the freaking place. I have no idea who we are and what we can do. We have one of the most expensive offenses in the league and we look atrocious. This is embarrassing man. At least we had the excuse of not having any talent offensively.

  336. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Romo is hurt?

  337. Bobby Says:

    Let’s see…isn’t that sack #2 today for McCoy??? Man I miss Thomas….

  338. raphael Says:

    lol its a 3 point game….

  339. Miguel Grande Says:

    3 sacks by McCoy I must be dreaming!

  340. SensibleBuc Says:

    Man that does NOT feel good. Romo got Cap Rooney’d on that one…

  341. Patrick Says:

    @Raphael and Dutcher…….quit kissing Freeman’s a**. His play has been embarrassing, and OUR defense has played lights out. Freeman can’t even get us into FG range after that last fumble.

  342. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Go Josh Freeman. :-\

  343. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    I think we are going to have a Kyle Orton sighting

  344. Stanglassman Says:

    Is Clay alright?

  345. SteveK Says:

    His throws aren’t even close. His execution of our offense is like old drunken sex: slow, sloppy, shooting low.

    He looks lost. Freeman needs to lead us. Hope his 4th quarter lightbulb shines brightly today.

  346. He'd Says:


  347. grif4foozball Says:

    Looks like we got the defense established,I thought we were supposed to be all about offense this year.OOoopps!

  348. SensibleBuc Says:

    Helmet to helmet?!? Huh?

  349. Patrick Says:

    Oh no…….now we HAVE to score a touchdown.

  350. raphael Says:

    about time for captain comback Freeman to do his thing …

  351. SteveK Says:

    McCoy knocked the Carrie Underwood outta him.

  352. FloridaGirl Says:

    Thank goodness the defense showed up to play…too bad the second fumble wasn’t called correctly or they would have realized a defensive score. The fact that we have to hope for the defense to score is terrible. Held them to three.that’s awesome…..Now that it’s in the 4th quarter maybe we’ll see the offense figure it out. Not

  353. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Steve…that comment was naive. Let’s see any QB do well with a OL like this.

    If the RBs were doing well, then you might be able to make a case that this if Freeman’s fault…but our guys can’t even open running lanes.

    SensibleBuc…I think the defense is doing better, so at least they have improved.

    Although…how long they can keep it up with so little time off the field is debatable.

    A defense CAN win games though…our last one did all the time. If they pick off the ball for a TD, that puts us ahead (with the point after).

    I figured 10-6, but marked Giants and Cowboys as a loss as well.

  354. Justin Says:


  355. BucfaninMi Says:

    No more Martin!

  356. Fatcracker Says:

    Freeman not looking good at all today

  357. Justin Says:

    Clayborn carted off. Uh oh.

  358. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Game over…Clayborn injured

  359. He'd Says:

    Yeah, freeman is in his 4th year and also with a new offensive coordinator. With a new offense

  360. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Claiborne carted off. Bad news there

  361. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Clayborne is hurt.

    Aikman said the Bucs defense is terrible.

  362. BucNeckid Says:

    Uh Oh
    Clayborn carted off
    Worse than losing the game

  363. Patrick Says:

    GIVE IT TO BLOUNT. I don’t trust Freeman!

  364. Gt40bear Says:

    Nice shot GMC, although you’ll be getting a nice request for a small contribution! You can afford it, keep them coming!

  365. BucNeckid Says:

    Offense is terrible^

  366. SteveK Says:

    Clayborn carted off…

  367. Patrick Says:


  368. SensibleBuc Says:

    13 2nd half points in 3 games. It’s like last year in reverse.

  369. Gt40bear Says:

    Gee, I was fooled by that play call!

  370. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Freeman pressured again.

  371. Jason Aris Says:

    It’s football. Freeman should be able to deliver a catchable ball to his receivers and to his receivers ONLY

  372. BucNeckid Says:

    Now they are just calling plays hoping for penalties for first downs

  373. Jason Aris Says:

    AAHH man. Any word on Clayborn?

  374. Patrick Says:

    Freeman is embarrasing. Thanks for drafting him RAHEEM.

  375. bjburgh1 Says:


  376. SensibleBuc Says:


  377. Architek Says:

    Why are you people afraid to criticize and give Freeman negative feedback. Hes playing like crap and just say it.

  378. Jason Aris Says:

    for those viewing …?
    what about The throws by Free?

  379. Erick Says:

    Can’t wait to draft a qb in first round next year. Freeman is absolute garbage!!!!

  380. Justin Says:

    Maybe Romo will fumble again. OR maybe, He’ll see Bennett and McCoy coming for him unblocked and drop the ball. That would be polite of him.

  381. Gt40bear Says:

    GOD ALMIGHTY! Pick someone out of the stands, can’t be any worse than our QB play today! HOLY CRAP ON A CRACKER!

  382. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Well…not the Dallas running game is going to wake up with Clayborn out.

  383. Jason Aris Says:

    we can hope Justin LOL

  384. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Still a good game though…if you enjoy defensive gameplay. Which I do.

    If our defense can just score 9 TDs this year I will be VERY happy.

  385. Patrick Says:

    I’m in Texas and right now I’m f’king embarrassed!

  386. bucs911 Says:

    This is a ridiculous display by freeman. He should pull himself from the game. If we had any offense we win this game.

  387. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Freeman had a few bad throws, but goddamn. These play calls are the worst I’ve seen. Run on first down in the 4th when youre backed up and down by 6? Get rid of sullivan. Awful awful awful

  388. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Same here Patrick. I almost went to the game.

  389. Rican Says:

    Here come the Homers lol…
    I forgot cause we aren’t expected to win we should be ok with ish football lol.
    My B my B. Fact through 8 quarters if football our team has hung with the best of them in 7 quarters of them. So in this game we should and won’t expect less just cause some “experts” say so.
    -Dumb ish Benn taking that kickoff out

  390. Gt40bear Says:

    Defense is gonna have to get a pick-six to win this game, offense damn sure won’t.

  391. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher……….our defense is gonna get worn out after too much of nothing from the offense

  392. Miguel Grande Says:

    Looks like McCoy busted out of the Goat House today and handed the keys to Freeman

  393. SensibleBuc Says:

    I thought the last play was on Clark myself but generally he looks rushed & confused. Obviously we can’t see the routes develop downfield but when he actually gets the ball out it’s nowhere near the receiver. We look like we don’t even know the plays.

  394. BucNeckid Says:

    This is Football
    Our Offensive Line???
    There is plenty of time for a Pro QB to make a decent throw.
    EVERY QB in the league gets hit almost EVERY Play
    No excuse on Freeman’splay this year
    How about giving Dallas’ DLine some credit too.
    Our OLine is holding up well against them
    OLINE is not struggling but not looking AS BAD as #5
    That is why you call a three step drop
    How can you Blame everybody on the oline except for the guy who can’t pull the trigger on a three step drop.
    Talk about an AGENDA

  395. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    How many sacks does Bennett have today? 3 or 4?

    Plus he had one before this. Dude is already up to 4 or 5 sacks on the 3rd game of the season.

  396. Snakeplaskon Says:

    It sucks to see our team playing their hearts out and freeman just throws the game away he is terrible

  397. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    and you people need to stop ripping Free. He made the throws when the plays were called last week. I have a feeling that he has no say about anything in this offense. Ditch Sully and let the offense get into a groove

  398. Patrick Says:

    Gruden was better than Sullivan and Olsen combined.

    Sheridan is doing good!

  399. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    god I love our D!

  400. SensibleBuc Says:

    Have we done any roll outs? Playaction?

  401. raphael Says:

    @ Shutthebucup…AGREED !

  402. SensibleBuc Says:

    Cut Myron Lewis *sigh*

  403. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    get rid of myron lewis. not worth the yards

  404. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Lewis hit Lewis, lol. That shouldn’t count…he hit himself!

  405. 1976Buc Says:

    Not able to watch or hear the game today. Is 6 completions correct for Freeman out of 20 attempts?

  406. raphael Says:

    cut lewis NOW !

  407. Justin Says:


    Scroll down until you get to Ron Rivera. Pretty funny.

  408. Bobby Says:

    What a stupid selfish penalty..

  409. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Myron Lewis = Idiot

  410. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher

    I know right??? haha

  411. Stanglassman Says:

    Myron is so cut!

  412. Jason Aris Says:

    Myron Lewis made a play today …
    … for Dallas!

  413. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    The other guy started it…but of course Myron should have not struck back. He should have fallen back like he was pushed.

  414. Patrick Says:



  415. FloridaGirl Says:

    Got have it on this drive….open up the playbook and throw it to anyone but Jackson

  416. bjburgh1 Says:


  417. Bobby Says:

    If we don’t have any turnovers today we win 7-3. Out D has been stellar.

  418. Bobby Says:

    ‘Our’ D.

  419. Patrick Says:

    Thank Aqib Talib guys!! He set us up for our only TD early on!

  420. Jason Aris Says:

    there are OTHER receivers on the field right ….
    … besides V-Jax?

  421. RustyRhino Says:

    it sounds like our D has gotten the memo this is the NFL and that is short for “Not For Long” as Coach Glanville used to say if you do not get your head out of your arse… lets hope the O gets this memo as well.

  422. BucNeckid Says:

    this is getting ridiculous on the first down rush only philosophy

  423. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    were not a superbowl team, but were making progress folks. another draft and another offseason and were going to be doing some spanking out there. might even finish this season on an uptick. just sit back and enjoy an actual football team 🙂

  424. Jason Aris Says:

    well they NOT abandoning the RUN …

  425. BucNeckid Says:

    Yes i kno wthat we are deep in our territory
    and this may be the exception but geesh

  426. Jason Aris Says:

    I agree that progress is being made. it’s just that QB play is STILL a question!!

  427. Patrick Says:


    Yep we’re only a QB away from having a good offense.

  428. SensibleBuc Says:

    Nobody was open. Wow.

  429. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Leaky O-Line against and elite D-Line = strips and sadness. At least we have Koenen

  430. Bobby Says:

    OK…that’s it. We need to draft a QB. I just don’t think Freeman has it. I’ve been in his corner but he just makes horrible decisions.

  431. mark2001 Says:

    6/20? Is Josh the guy or will we need to look for a QB for next year?

  432. Erick Says:

    How bout you defend freeman a little more Pete! Guys sucks! Get him the hell out of there

  433. Jason Aris Says:

    now Free should be experienced enough to know how to handle this situation.
    POOR decisions from Freeman – A G A I N

  434. RustyRhino Says:

    Is Freeman under so much pressure he can not even get a pass off? how does Dotson look?

  435. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    true test for the D

  436. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    I suppose that kick return was FREEMAN’S FAULT as well.

  437. FloridaGirl Says:

    They’ve packed it in….game over

  438. Theodore Says:

    Josh Freeman must have thought the Statue of Liberty play was called.

  439. mark2001 Says:

    This Offense seems to be Helpless and Hopeless. Stats aren’t for liars.

  440. raphael Says:

    @Erick….where the hell is he supposed to throw the ball…..?????

  441. Rican Says:

    Game over. Garbage QB

  442. Patrick Says:

    F’k this sh*t. This is a game we could’ve won if Freeman had actually played like an NFL QB.

  443. BucNeckid Says:

    Game over guys

  444. bjburgh1 Says:


  445. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Daaaaang….Schiano looks like he’s the kind of mad that could kill. I would be checking the locker room for guns before going back there.

  446. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Goddamn Joe Buck. I believe we have a curse on our hands. Worst announcer of all time!

  447. Berserker Ryan Says:

    Underwood and Blount now

  448. Patrick Says:

    @Dutcher………..shut the hell up man. Freeman is gonna be the reason we lost the game.

  449. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    I love you Mark Barron

  450. SensibleBuc Says:


  451. Justin Says:

    LOL DALLAS. Almost as bad as we are.

  452. Patrick Says:

    PUT Orlovsky in!! He’s actually a decent player!!

  453. Jason Aris Says:

    PETE- no way the return is on Freeman.
    we not expecting a Superbowl championship team this year, but …
    … better QB play

  454. Patrick Says:

    This is our last chance! We have to stop them.

  455. Doug Whiley Says:

    We need a real quarterback. Freeman is just awful! He doesn’t even give us a chance. 3 and out. 3 and out. 3 and out. 3 and out. 3 and out.

  456. Jerry Says:

    Offense quit on this game a long time ago. They look like Raheem and Olson are running it.

  457. mark2001 Says:

    Well, I guess we can’t expect Josh to be the guy, considering nearly everything Dom and Raheem touched turned to crap.

  458. FloridaGirl Says:

    Offense has truly wasted a great defensive effort

  459. SkookumSmitty Says:

    For all the negative stuff some of y’all say, it almost seems like you WANT a reason not to like the Bucs. Is it good? No, it is not. Is it terrible? NO, it is not.

    New coach, new system, this is going to take awhile.

  460. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Pick it and run it back. Thats the only way we will score

  461. Patrick Says:

    We need a turnover or it’s over.

  462. Mad Mark Says:

    Looks like black outs all season…no product to cheer for other than a defense…don’t waste your money on these guys!

  463. Justin Says:

    Defense is on fire.

  464. Patrick Says:

    Well…….this is the time of the game Freeman will finally wake up!

  465. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    I love our QB. Hate our play calls. You don’t run the goddamn ball when your backed up in the 3rd/4th quarter. Our players are more than capable of winning games. They just need to be put in the right place. This game is all on the calls.

  466. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    keep an eye on schiano

  467. raphael Says:

    Last week…our defense sucked

    this week ….our offense sucks

  468. Jason Aris Says:

    go BUCS.
    Are Dallas going for it on 4th

  469. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Oh man…Clayborn might be out for the season?

  470. Erick Says:

    You freeman apologists are unbelievable! Romo has been pressured just as much, if not more, and is still able to stand in the pocket and make the throw. Stop making excuses for a 4th year vet

  471. SensibleBuc Says:

    Wait wait wait…people are calling for Orlovsky to play? Dan Orlovsky? The guy that did this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZrpEdc0ZQ

    I mean I’m mad just like the next guy but get ahold of yourselves people.

  472. Patrick Says:

    Game over. F’K YOU FREEMAN.

  473. bucobruce Says:

    Fire sullivan now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  474. raphael Says:

    they should call play to get our qb in a rythym… something…

  475. BucNeckid Says:

    Six Quarters in a row that the BUCS could not maintain an offensive drive.
    Maybe the reason the Offensive play calling sucks so bad is that it has to be vanilla’d down to compensate for the bad QB Play.

  476. mark2001 Says:

    Most all of like or love the Bucs.

    But those of us watching Football for 50 years know what we are looking at when we see football. This was one of the most inept QB outcomes in the last 5 years of any QB….6/20…39 yards…1 TD, 1 Int. Yikes. Anyone know what the QB rating is on that one?

  477. bjburgh1 Says:


  478. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    On the up side, the defensive play calling has been fantastic at least.

  479. Patrick Says:

    I knew they weren’t going to win this game……..they’re playing the Cowboys!! They always beat them!!

  480. SteveK Says:

    It’s not over yet, but we need to score before the 2 minute warning.

  481. Horice Says:

    If we come out throwing the ball all over the place I will puke..

  482. Patrick Says:


  483. Rican Says:

    Oh my God

  484. Justin Says:

    I think Mike Sullivan was payed off by the Cowboys.

  485. Nick Says:

    Worst offenses coaching in Buc’s history !

    Thank God Sullivan won’t be here next year!

  486. Horice Says:

    Troy is Killing our offense and rightfully so

  487. Miguel Grande Says:

    Here we go 1st down Peanut 1.0 up the middle for 1 yard

  488. SteveK Says:

    Hand off? WTF? Greg Olsen still wiring in plays?

    Incomplete pass… Freeman looks like crap.

  489. FloridaGirl Says:

    Can we at least TRY TO THROW the ball past the first down mark?? Sheesh, put me in next week

  490. BucNeckid Says:

    “You have got to be kidding me”
    – Troy Aikman on Bucs running on first down this drive

  491. Justin Says:

    Seriously, I think he’s being an idiot on purpose.

  492. Jason Aris Says:

    I agree Patrick – to the run.
    And he runs again – just to infuriate you…

  493. Patrick Says:

    I want Jon Gruden back. I’m not joking.

  494. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Honestly…it looks like Freeman is intentionally staying in the pocket, as though he’s been instructed to.

    However…he’s having about 2 seconds to get rid of the ball in most passing plays from the time goes in motion.

  495. SteveK Says:

    What the hell are we doing? This is really stupid. SMH, damn Bucs wtf?

  496. SkookumSmitty Says:

    It’s the playcalling. By the way mark2001…Not only have I been watching football that long, i have been a BUCS FAN for almost forty years.

  497. Theodore Says:

    Now Joe Buck is mocking the Bucs play calling. Apparently, Freeman is that bad.

  498. raphael Says:

    another handoff …

  499. BucNeckid Says:

    we are the laughing stock of the NFL this week for another reason

  500. Buc fan south Tampa Says:

    Sullivan is killing me

  501. Horice Says:

    two draws plays, and one half-hearted pass play!!! How much did we spend on VJ this year?? Also what QB is coming out of college?? Josh needs to GO!

  502. Jason Aris Says:

    39 yards of Pass offence????

    And you tell me the QB doesn’t take MUCH o’ the blame?

  503. BucNeckid Says:

    Bucs version of the Kneel down

  504. Jerry Says:

    We need a new QB and apparently a new OC next year.

  505. Miguel Grande Says:

    3rd and 9, two scores behind and we’re trying to run out the clock?

    What happened to whistle to whistle, never quit?

    Now we get to see the Cowgirls rub our noses on that kneel down

  506. mark2001 Says:

    Based upon what I’ve seen the last two weeks, it appears the only solution might be to fire Dom and hope for an experienced personnel guy that can weed out the guys on this team that don’t belong in the league.

  507. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Im completely mindblown by these play calls. Sullivan is clearly smoking crystal meth

  508. SteveK Says:

    Freeman looks lost. Where is his mind? We suck without him. Orlovskey, get loose!

  509. raphael Says:

    @ theodore …Freeman doesn’t call the plays you dumb twit !

  510. Army BUC Says:


  511. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Nick Says:
    September 23rd, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Worst offenses coaching in Buc’s history !


    Clearly you haven’t been a fan long. This team has NEVER had a great offense…unless you count the Doug Williams years.

  512. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    If we punt, I want everyone fired

  513. Buc Fan #237 Says:

    Aikmen just blew up on live TV!!!

    He was like, “You got to be kidding me!!!”

    I loved it.

  514. James Marlow Says:

    Unfortunately I agree with Troy A. Never thought I would have to do that.

  515. BucNeckid Says:

    Welcome to the rebuilding year

  516. SteveK Says:

    Here we go….

  517. raphael Says:

    take the shackles off free and let him play…

  518. Patrick Says:

    Gruden’s offenses were actually probably actually the best ones we ever had.

  519. bucfan999 Says:

    It looks obvious today that Josh Freeman is just not a starting caliber NFL QB. He’s had one good year in his career and it looks like defenses have found out what he can and can’t do. Time to find a new starting QB………Barkley????

  520. raphael Says:

    where has that been ?

  521. James Marlow Says:

    Vincent who?

  522. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    see? He finally had time in the pocket…and Jackson caught it.

  523. BucNeckid Says:

    where is the Time out

  524. Patrick Says:

    WOW, shock?? FREEMAN completes a pass when it’s too late!

  525. Theodore Says:

    @raphael – You dumb twit. I was referring to Freeman being so bad the OC is calling running plays.

    You know, one can disagree without being an ass.

  526. jglazer Says:

    For a team that fought for the kneel down this is a change. They laid down today. Didn’t think they could catch up so they ran it twice. What happened to fight to the finish?

  527. BucNeckid Says:

    it is called desperation

  528. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    We could have been doing this all day. FIRE SULLIVAN TOMORROW

  529. FloridaGirl Says:

    SERIOUSLY?????? Now we’re opening up the playbook that has the passing formations in it???? Too little too late

  530. mark2001 Says:

    SkookumSmitty….I’ve been a Bucs fan since the mid 80’s. So what Bucs QB in the past did Freemans performance look like today? I have some ideas, but let”s hear it from you.

  531. patrickbucs Says:

    just pathetic… don’t care if we got that pass or not, when an ex great QB and J Buck is mocking you something is very wrong!!

  532. BucNeckid Says:

    A check down to the middle of the field?!?

  533. raphael Says:

    @theodore as was referring to you being a DUMB TWIT ….Freeman is not the problem….dumb twit

  534. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    To you morons still talking trash about Free, just stop being a Tampa fan. I’d suggest the Packers or Pats. Adios!

  535. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Time to pass, and again it is caught.

  536. Patrick Says:

    Freeman always plays well………

    when it’s too late.

  537. jglazer Says:

    I swear Freeman only makes plays when the defense is in a prevent zone.

  538. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Its wonderful when we let Free air it out with his receivers

  539. BucNeckid Says:

    A little too little too late
    One pass does not a QB make

  540. mark2001 Says:

    Don’t get all excited…They are two scores up, and only an onside kick will give us a chance, even if we get it into the endzone. It is called “prevent defense”.

  541. raphael Says:


  542. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Look at Tiquan gettin’ it in!

  543. SensibleBuc Says:

    Every position group on offense was inept today. Freeman looked confused. Our receivers couldn’t get open. Doug had no holes. Nobody could block anybody. The play calling was inept…scratch that…BEYOND inept…

    …Of course NOW we move the ball…

  544. Russ Says:

    Simply put, the most embarrassing, pathetic performance from a Bucs’ offense in decades. Sullivan has called 3 lousy games. Freeman looks lost. The WRs, as has been the case since the franchise’s inception, cannot beat man/press coverage. Martin has no room to run. The o-line has been turn-style bad. The film on this game will be vomit inducing. Nothing downfield. Really, it has been building to this bad. Open up the effing playbook or bench Freeman if you don’t think he can make the right decisions. I know this, Freeman isn’t the same QB he was during his rookie year on 2010. The guy is a statue.

    Too bad, because the defense played its best game in recent memory. Way to rebound from last week. Nice to see you Gerald!!!

  545. Patrick Says:


    Shut the F*CK up.

  546. Patrick Says:

    Bring Troy Aikman down and let him QB our team. The old man would still play Much better than Freeman!

  547. BucNeckid Says:

    Believe me
    I am ready to eat crow
    Still watching and rooting for the Bucs
    But #5 is just painful to watch.

  548. mark2001 Says:

    What…just because the Pack and Pats have good QB’s and I’m not sure about ours, we shouldn’t be Buc fans. It is called reality. I’ve always pulled for and believed in Josh, but now have my doubts.

  549. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Holy crap I hate these refs. Horse collar holding and they ignore it. Would have given us 1st and goal.

  550. raphael Says:

    @ Patrick You SHUT the F*CK up….loser fan!

  551. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    FAKE IT!

  552. Rican Says:

    @Raphael you mean Free take the shackles off yourself? Lol
    I don’t give a damn if we score or if Free completes some passes now when it doesn’t matter. My goodness, learn to play under pressure.

  553. Patrick Says:


    I’m a realist, not blind like you are!

  554. Theodore Says:

    @raphael – That’s the response of someone who knows they were wrong. Go back to berating others who dare criticize your man-love for Freeman.

    And, oh yeah… You’re a dumb twit.

  555. Rican Says:

    You are the biggest Homer on this board. Pretty much a joke.

  556. Patrick Says:

    Good job guys. Another loss to the Cowboys.

  557. SensibleBuc Says:

    You think we’ll do the kneel down play again? That would be hilarious

  558. raphael Says:

    @ Patrick…wrong your a idiot !

  559. Ladyz Says:

    It is time to bench Freeman , let Blunt out of the dog house and get a new play caller! Another week like this and they will never fill the stadium.

  560. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    watch the “victory formation” 🙂

  561. JJ1977 Says:

    This is are QB future! Are you joking me..

  562. BucNeckid Says:

    Wanna see the Kneel Down Defense Part II

  563. Patrick Says:

    Let’s see what they do on the kneel down!

  564. raphael Says:

    This loss is ALL on the OC

  565. mark2001 Says:

    What is sad is that we could have picked up another good young QB to back up Josh in the last draft in case he isn’t the franchise guy…..but now we are at ground zero.

  566. BucNeckid Says:

    Why Boo?
    Everybody knew that that was coming

  567. SteveK Says:

    We got the best kneel down D in football.

  568. Patrick Says:


    It’s *you’re, not YOUR


  569. mark2001 Says:

    Do you think Dallas will be ready four our “kneeldown” defense?

  570. Mad Mark Says:

    Is Brad Johnson still out there?

  571. SensibleBuc Says:

    If you’re giving up on Freeman after 3 weeks in a new offense, you’re a moron. Stop.

  572. bjburgh1 Says:


  573. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    i love this team

  574. Patrick Says:

    Ok seriously, Schiano is making a fool out of himself. LET THEM KNEEL IT DOWN.

  575. mark2001 Says:

    We didn’t lose this game…we just ran out of time outs.

  576. BucNeckid Says:

    Does a Kneel down count as a sack?
    Way to pad the sack stats then!!!!
    That is three more at the end

  577. Patrick Says:

    We couldn’t even beat the Cowboys when they had Brad Johnson playing QB.

    Anyone REMEMBER that?

  578. Jerry Says:

    The knee-down rushes were the best part of the game.

  579. SteveK Says:

    Wow. How bout our D lines up and does that to Freeman all week? Then maybe he will have an urgency to play better.

  580. FloridaGirl Says:

    Loved the defense, but it’s time to buy a new quarterback. Why we can’t pass the ball in the first 3.5 quarters is unbeliveable.

  581. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    false fans looking for fantasy yards, please leave the building. real fans stand up and applaud our newly improved team. proud to be a buc fan tonight, regardless of the play calls 🙂

  582. mark2001 Says:

    This is Freeman’s fourth year. He should be getting it together by now. He doesn’t seem to be progressing the last year and a half. My friend, that isn’t a good sign, new system or not.

  583. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    SensibleBuc Says:
    September 23rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    If you’re giving up on Freeman after 3 weeks in a new offense, you’re a moron. Stop.



    Well, I like how we went after the kneel down 3 times. Schiano showed the nation media and the other teams that he doesn’t give a rip what they think. And the Cowboys were ready for it…so no risk of injury.

    No more than normally.

  584. Rican Says:

    It’s been 4 years new offense or not lol.
    The offensive system doesn’t effect his decision making or accuracy.
    End of story.

  585. Patrick Says:


    The Bucs fans have been patient enough with Freeman!! The Cowboys fans trash Romo all the time, and he’s a good QB!!

    That tells you we have good fans. Freeman would’ve been run out of Dallas after one season.

  586. raphael Says:

    @ patrick…your a idiot

  587. SteveK Says:

    Freeman are you there? Anyone home? Earth to Freeman, you were a 1st roun pick. Please feel free to perform at an average level. We would be 3-0 with average QB play.

  588. Architek Says:

    This game was embarrassing because you couldnt have scripted a better scenario and then Freeman and this offended the game. FAILURE.

  589. Bobby Says:

    Horribly called offensive game plan. Brilliant defensive game plan. Can we ever get the two together??? I don’t know if Freeman is that bad or the play calling is that bad or just a combination of the two but that was another game we should have won but this time it was the offense instead of the defense. Frustrating…. Still light years better than last year’s team but frustrating.

  590. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Just curious…how many years did Alex Smith go before he got good? What held him back? (aside from injuries?) Alternating OCs.

    I am not worried about Freeman. I am not worried (yet) about Sullivan. I AM worried about our offensive line. To me they had no more than 10 good plays in them, and nearly half of them were in the last drive. Just ask Martin and Blount.

  591. ShutTheBucUp Says:


  592. Patrick Says:


    YOU’RE an idiot.


  593. Snakeplaskon Says:

    We win that game with any other qb in the league and most backups

  594. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher

    Ok……so let’s wait seven years before Josh Freeman plays up to his draft status.

    A true, pro bowl QB plays good no matter what.

    Did we draft Freeman to be an AVERAGE QB, or be a true pro bowl QB that MOVE the ball downfield?

  595. raphael Says:

    @ Patrick …you go Girlfriend !!

  596. Patrick Says:

    Let’s trade for Tony Romo once the Dallas fans run him out of town.

  597. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    heh…Aikman said GMC hit was a well executed one that could have broken the jaw of Romo…nice!

  598. Bobby Says:

    The victory formation may go the way of the dinosaur when teams play the Bucs. LOL! They have to protect like a regular play. Not like they didn’t know we were coming.

  599. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Pete how can you not be worried about Sully’s calls? They were almost mind boggling in the 4th quarter. We had no progress with the run all day. Yet we try and run the ball on first down in the first quarter when were behind. Do these coaches have no faith in freeman? I’m still mindblown by the play calls in the 2nd half. Oh and I’m sure Sully had something to do with Ware jumping on board. The guy who handed the Boys a TD. Great job. Get rid of that MF

  600. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    fourth, nor first

  601. mark2001 Says:

    You are what your record says you are….unless we are talking “moral victories”. We in Tampa are used to them, except for one magical year. At the end of the year, we will know if this team is better. We do know last year the team quit on Raheem.

  602. Russ Says:

    Romo came damn close to fumbling on the second kneel-down…he was bobbling the ball all the way down. It’s ridiculous that we even have to resort to such shenanigans.

    Listen, as much as I’m seriously questioning the competence of Mike Sullivan as a coordinator, I have to give some credit to Sheridan for learning from last week and putting his players in a position be be successful. There were some stellar individual performances across the DL. I hope Clayborne’s knee injury isn’t serious. He was nasty out there today.

    I hope between now and next week we sort out the play-calling, the WR position and tell our QB to step INTO the pocket and move his feet. His regression (even in a new system) is terrifying. The guy has lost his mojo. I thought in 09-10 he was on his way to becoming a McNair-like QB. Instead, the kid has the legs of Leaf, vision of Testaverde and mind of Akili Smith.

  603. Pruritis Ani Says:

    I find it difficult to believe the offense only has the capability of marginally executing very basic plays. Something is terribly wrong with this whole picture.

    Last week I thought it was just conservative play calling. This week I am beginning to believe they may not have but a few plays in their playbook. It has to be the most unimaginative offense I’ve seen in a very long time.

    Sadly, today’s performance will not do much for ticket sales next week.

  604. mark2001 Says:

    And is the measure of a good fan, how long they will tolerate crappy play? Well, I guess Viking fans must be the best in the league.

  605. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    We drafted him to be a good QB for a defensive team. When he was drafted, that WAS the plan.

    Personally, I think by the end of this season he will be playing lights out. I didn’t think we would win this game. I AM glad we kept it close.

    The reason everyone here is stressed out is because all week they were saying how we would beat the Cowboys. Anyone with half a brain would have seen the odds were against that. But no. Everyone ignored the odds and then got mad when they were disappointed.

    Now…get read for a real WIN next week. Both the defense AND the offense will play well, and these wishy-washy fans will change their tunes…yet again.

  606. mark2001 Says:

    I think this is the play philosophy and we will either win or in the near future, lose with it. Isn’t that what Shiano said coming in?

  607. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    ShutTheBucUp Says:
    September 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Pete how can you not be worried about Sully’s calls? They were almost mind boggling in the 4th quarter. We had no progress with the run all day. Yet we try and run the ball on first down in the first quarter when were behind. Do these coaches have no faith in freeman? I’m still mindblown by the play calls in the 2nd half. Oh and I’m sure Sully had something to do with Ware jumping on board. The guy who handed the Boys a TD. Great job. Get rid of that MF


    I see plenty of faults in the play calling…but I’m not worried because I realize Sullivan is a first time OC developing his first playbook. Patience is required. He’ll learn from game to game. I highly doubt the Giants will be giving him much advice though.

  608. Patrick Says:

    @Pete Dutcher

    There’s no excuse at all. We SHOULD’VE won this game. If Freeman had actually played like an NFL quarterback and GOTTEN just a few first downs, we would’ve gotten a victory.

    Why……just cause Dallas is a good team, we can’t expect them to win?? Time to set the bar a little bit higher!

    The college at my Division II college would’ve played better than Freeman today.

  609. 1976Buc Says:

    Sounds like I can’t wait to see the replay of this one.

  610. mark2001 Says:

    Next week we may win because we are playing a relatively lousy team. So that is where it is…we might beat lousy teams, but can just stay in the ballpark with good teams. Isn’t that where we were last year, until the team tanked it?

  611. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    we had the personnel to get this game down as a big ol’ W. It was the play calling and and a huge F-up by DJ Ware that set it up for failure. I say to hell with the saying “no moral victories”. We need to find the weak links and put their asses on the curb. ditch sully, ditch ware, get blunt back in play, and let our O roll. Our D is excellent. Keep it on track .

  612. Patrick Says:


    You’re putting it on Ware??

    How bout on Freeman for not making any completions??

  613. BucFan20 Says:

    Freeman was up to his same crap. Staring down receivers. But use the same receivers all game long until the end and it’s not hard to figure out who to cover. Same for the RB.

  614. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Im saying Ware dropped the easy completion which led to a Cowgirls TD. If you want to talk offense, lets talk about the play calling. Even the intellectually disabled announcers couldnt believe the play calls. How can you put this all on Freeman? Are you going to put the last week loss on him too? I doubt it. Find the cancer at it’s source and cut it out.

  615. Rican Says:

    Again I forgot if we are “supposed” to lose we should be ok with losing. My bad my bad. Oh and Free wasn’t the number 1 pick overall Alex Smith was. You can’t compare them.

  616. patrickbucs Says:

    not quite sure how anyone can defend anything on the offense playbook or not. You guys do see rookie QB’s doing just fine correct?

    Look at Dalton and what they did to the Redskins at their ballpark today. They used imaginationon offense, just like a number of NFL and college teams.

  617. patrickbucs Says:

    I hope Joe isn’t happy with us sticking with the run today..

    Joe’s fine with it, but learn how to use the running back weapon on the bench. Freeman was 10-of-28. The running game didn’t cost the Bucs. –Joe

  618. Rican Says:

    10-28 nuff said
    And most of those completions came on a last minute desperation drive