Biggers Goes Down
July 28th, 2012
There’ll be an official update from the Bucs later today, but E.J. Biggers has a significant foot injury suffered yesterday that will sideline him for a while. Per WDAE-AM 620, Biggers and Arrelious Benn were injured colliding with each other.
Myron Lewis and Anthony Gaitor definitely will get their chances to shine.
Joe realizes many fans might crack a smile at the thought of Biggers getting cut, but the Bucs need the depth at the position. Biggers is not a bad reserve player.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Sounds like a lot of our players were not staying in shape after the season. Perhaps the looseness in training sessions during the last staff had lasting effects that spilled over into some of the player’s offseason training habits as well. I expect these injuries to not be such an issue next year with the new, more dedicated staff.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:50 am
I’m beginning to think that GMC’s injuries are not entirely his fault but more of our previous regimes fault for not properly conditioning him. It’s as if they were doing it Gruden way, but Gruden had old grandpa players therefore they needed the soft conditioning to prolong there career. While these young guys need to continue to train hard because they’re still learning the ropes. The old guys were very experienced, everything becomes habitual for them.
So glad we fired everyone from 2011….However, DomDom is walking towards thin ice…Let’s see if 2012 brings him back to Paradise.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Total love Biggers in a part-time\reserve roll or in nickel\dime packages. Completely good enough. Gaitor will rise to the top with a chance. Lewis I thought would be cut, but now may stick around due to injuries.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Anthony Gaitor has always been my pick to surprise everyone once he gets his chance. If he ever starts I think the job will be his from that point on. He has speed, loves contact and takes great angles in pursuit. He has all the skills and now maybe he’ll get his chance.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:18 am
I am a Gaitor optimist also. Him getting more reps while being coached by Ron Cooper gets me excited. I think having Cooper on our staff was the best addition to the staff. If these guys have talent that can be polished with coaching he is the guy to do it and the cream will rise to the top. If guys like Myron Lewis don’t have it they ae going to know it also. Something tells me they are not satisfied with what they have because we brought a few more dbs in when we freed up the roster spots and that was beore Biggers went down.Any news about Leonard Johnson Joe??
July 28th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Go Anthony Gaitor. He is fast, just needs to learn some techniques.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:24 am
It doesn’t surprise me that Biggers is not in shape…he’s lazy in game as well.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:28 am
dont think breaking a bone in your foot, comes from not being in shape… unless you think poor milk intake is ‘not being in shape’?
July 28th, 2012 at 11:32 am
I disagree that Dom is on thin ice.
Tell me…how many top-notch players did McKay get when he built the last era of players before he started adding free agents?
3? 4?
Dominick has GMC (provided he stays healthy), Clayborn, Williams, Foster (whom I believe is going to be great in another year)…along with a few others.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:34 am
And let’s not forget this years picks.
As to the last era…McKay added Sapp, Brooks and Lynch, and then started supplementing with free agents and other picks. (such as Barber)
July 28th, 2012 at 11:37 am
dan Says:
July 28th, 2012 at 11:28 am
dont think breaking a bone in your foot, comes from not being in shape… unless you think poor milk intake is ‘not being in shape’?
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If you are in shape the muscles are stronger, along with ankles and such. Better support equals few breaks…he was out of shape. Frankly…I think that is its possible for an injury to be a good thing, this one is.
Now the Bucs will not only give other guys a shot….they might actually be forced to go out and find another CB…one of the positions negelcted in the draft.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:47 am
I’m excited to see what Anthony Gaitor can do. Ever since we drafted him, i’ve been waiting to see him get his chance. He’s got great skills.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
“Biggers goes down”…I guess that’s one way to make the team.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Yep, Biggers was definitely out of shape when he got injured colliding with another player. I’m sure Tom Brady was in horrible shape when a player collided with his knee a few years ago as well. And all these concussion suits? They’ll get thrown out of court because none of those guys were in good enough shape to protect their heads when colliding with other players either. You guys are funny…
July 28th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
thank u BamBam!!! all of these pessimists on here are always looking for somoene/something to blame EVERYTHING on. some injuries (hamstrings strains, etc) can sometimes be attributed to a guy being out of shape. but it’s ridiculous that everyone assumes Benn’s MCL sprain and Biggers’ foot injury are the result of not being properly conditioned. THIS IS FOOTBALL YOU MORONS!!!! these are really big guys running fast, cutting suddenly, hitting the ground, sometimes colliding with each other (as is the case with Biggers and Benn). injuries are going to happen….sometimes they happen in training camp, sometimes they happen in games, sometimes they happen in practice in week 15. but THEY HAPPEN, its just part of the game.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Im pretty sure it broke when Ahmad Black and Mike Williams landed on him… but it could be photo shopped…haha
July 28th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Don’t ever put Gerald in a good Dom acquisition category.
For 30 million the team hasn’t got squat from him as a #3 overall. Nobody knows yet if he will even be decent.
Even if tons of excellent Schiano coaching elevates Gerald all the way up to decent, it will still be a waste of a pick.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The truth is:
the Benn and Biggers injuries aren’t their fault or Dom’s fault or Schiano’s fault – they just happen.
But who cares? They both suck (at least so far).
July 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Oh my goodness, so Biggers got hurt because he wasn’t in shape? I can’t stand it when people make baseless accusations, without a shred of evidence to support it. He must have been in decent shape if he passed the conditioning test. And no, being in shape does not make your ankles stronger! How stupid! Ankle sprains are ligaments, not muscles. So from now on out, any player across the league that gets hurt is out of shape? SMH
July 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Biggers is exploited routinely by opponents. We are in trouble if he is really considered a good back up. Send him to Bruce Allen soon.
July 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
“Biggers is exploited routinely by opponents.”
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Yeah, like #1 receivers, which he shouldn’t be covering. He is not a #1 CB. There’s a big difference between covering Calvin Johnson versus covering a slot receiver. Hate on the guy all you want, but he was in way over his head last year. Not many teams use a 2nd year, 7th round player (yes I know he’s been here 3 years, but he was hurt and never played his rookie year) as a #1 CB, but we did. And I also ask you this: who that is not playing is better than Biggers? Myron Lewis??!!
July 28th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
@ Hawaiian. “And no, being in shape does not make your ankles stronger! How stupid! Ankle sprains are ligaments, not muscles.”
Yes they are ligaments but staying fit does benefit ligaments. Nutrition, training with weights, running, stretching, impact cardio, and muscular strength i.e. staying shape directly affects ligament health. Yes, staying in football shape does make your ankles stronger.
I never said Biggers specifically. I said a lot of players. Perhaps him, but not necessarily him. Considering the rash of injuries happening so soon in camp, it is reasonable to suggest that “perhaps” some are due to lack of off season training.
July 28th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Hawaiian is correct, stop being foolish.
I think that Biggers is a terrible corner but his foot injury has zero to do with his conditioning. Biggers has always been in shape. You can just as easily sustain a foot injury in week 17 – big dudes cutting, planting, jumping etc in tight spaces leads to a lot of foot injuries – turf toes, plantar fascias, broken bones etc.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
@Have a Nice Day,
I wasn’t referring to your comment (to be honest, I didn’t even read it until just now). I was referring to Pete ignorantly claiming that Biggers is out of shape (not to mention saying he is lazy). That is a baseless claim, and there is zero evidence supporting that. Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t make it okay to make sh!t up. Also, if Thomas and I agree on anything, most likely we are correct. We pretty much never agree, so when we do, it must be true.
Is anyone here really dumb enough to believe that Biggers showed up to camp out of shape? Not sure if you noticed, but there’s a new sherriff in town, and he’s not playing any games. If you come to camp out of shape, he will get rid of you before lunch (see Price, Brian; Briscoe, Desmond; Holland, Devin). You think Biggers is good enough to get an exception? Idiotic! If you don’t show up with the right attitude, see ya (see Winslow, Kellen).
Two guys collided playing football, and both got hurt. Period. Don’t be a moron and try I make things complicated, or pretend like you know what the hell is going on. I know making comments are fun, but at least use a tiny bit of common sense before you make yourself look like a complete idiot.
July 29th, 2012 at 3:28 am
I realize there is no evidence and as it turned out it was the result of a collision. That said, Biggers earned this kind of judgement last year when he blatantly stopped chasing his guys after he blew coverage.
The guy is a quiter. He’s lazy. And until he lroves on the field that he’s changed he’ll get no respect from me.
That said…I may have taken it to the extreme…but so are you. Don’t pretend conditioning does not affect thing like this.
And, BamBam…shoot…when you disagree I know I’m wrong..dang it.
July 29th, 2012 at 8:27 am
@Hawaiian I believe it is very possible anyone could have shown up to these training session out of football ready shape. That is what these camps are for, getting them ready for the grind of the season. Not that he is fat, weak, or cannot run, but football is another level of readiness that requires many hours of preparation. If a player takes off for a few months ligaments, muscles, and joints may easily tighten up which can cause the very same injuries we are seeing.(yes, ligaments health can be a main factor in impact injury) It requires time and extra effort to get back into peak form. Many athletes do push themselves too hard coming off the offseason without allowing their bodies time to adapt: working out extremely hard after months of being cold can lead to injury – This is not news.
This is a very common reason for minor training camp injuries in all sports. Talk to any trained or any team doctor.
But again, I never said this was the main cause, just that perhaps it is a possibility. I also said due to the new staff I don’t expect as many of these types of minor injuries next year. After a year with Schiano and these types of training sessions, they will know to come back from the offseason in better health or raise the risk of hurting themselves.
July 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@pete,
If the guy was a quitter, he wouldn’t be here. Have you not noticed we have a new coach who cuts people for not putting their toes on the line? Do you really think he would tolerate a quitter? That’s absolutely ridiculous. Funny how you are the only person, either expert or fan, that I have ever heard all Biggers that. You are flat out wrong.
July 29th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@Have a Nice Day,
Again, they had a conditioning test, and Biggers passed it. So I don’t believe for a second he showed up out of shape. I don’t really see how anyone could argue to the contrary.
I understand, as an ex-athlete myself (albeit not a very good one), that injuries can occur as a result of not being in football shape. But this is just not the case with Biggers. His injury was a result of a collision, and it was a freaking broken bone! It’s not due to being out of shape. This is so ridiculous, I can’t believe I’m even having to argue it. I guess haters are going to hate, but give me a break.
And for the second time, I wasn’t referring to your post, I was referring to Pete.