All The Same Preparing For Freeman, Johnson?

September 10th, 2010

Speaking on Sirius NFL Radio earlier this year, Joe recorded Josh Freeman talking to Bill Cowher about how he expects to run and audible more this season.

That got Cowher all excited, and Joe, too. If you missed it, click the link and take a look.

It seems Browns head coach Eric Mangini believed Freeman. Mangini told the Browns media, per the Cleveland Plan-Dealer, that he doesn’t see big gameplan differences for Josh Freeman or Josh Johnson.

(On if there is much of a difference between the preparation for the Tampa Bay quarterbacks Josh Freeman and Josh Johnson)- “There are similarities which is a positive thing. With any two people there’s going to be differences, but they create a lot of the same challenges. They are both very effective with their feet, they both can throw on the run well. I think both players have the ability to make plays outside of the standard way to make plays. But that consistency actually is a plus for us because you’re not preparing for one guy who is one way and one guy who is completely a different way.”

While Joe’s very skeptical that Freeman will play Sunday, Joe would expect to see a more comfortable, confident Freeman take off and run more often, especially with his very inexperienced receiving corps.

30 Responses to “All The Same Preparing For Freeman, Johnson?”

  1. Hatey 80 Says:

    Joe, why are you skeptical? Reports are he’s practicing and taking the first team reps. He had a “planned” day off but was back throwing again.

    Faine thinks he’ll go, Raheem seems to think he’ll go, JJ’s been getting paltry backup reps this week, which suggests the Bucs brass are confident Freeman will play. What do you know that they dont?

    Not trying to dog you man, honestly I do want to know if you have any additional info that points to Freeman sitting.

  2. Nicholas Carlson Says:

    You don’t think the sudden appearance of a HUGE bandage on Freeman’s thumb might be a little theater from Raheem? I think he’s playing games.

  3. bucfanjeff Says:

    Joe is always skeptical and negative – very few positive posts. When positive posts surface, there is always a hint of skeptism and negative tone. Since I’m on a soap box, is this or If I wanted to see other news (i.e.-college football info or morning cup of joe) I would visit other sites.
    I like checking in on this site, but honestly, the negativity and non-bucs posts are wearing thin on me. I come for Bucs info\news – nothing more, nothing less. And please spare us the excuse, sometimes, people just want to hear things from the glass is half full perspective.
    Sorry for the rant…

  4. Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I wish the game was sold out no matter what QB is playing, though we have seasons tickets. Kind of hard to have home field advantage in a 1/2 empty stadium ?

  5. BucsFan593 Says:

    Bucfanjeff??? There is nothing wrong with the morning cup of joe its the fisrt thing i look for when i get on here. No matter what time of day it is. Second clicking on links is how we have a free website here. Why dont you go pay the ESPN insider membership and get your bucs news there.

    Joe keep it up this site is the best Bucs site out right now!!!

  6. McBuc Says:

    I think Freeman will play, but if the injuty takes a hit, we may so JJ.

    Joe, I like the college breakdown and the cup of Joe, keep it up! I just scroll past the things I do not want to read. Great pic on the morning cup today.

  7. Joe Says:


    Joe, I like the college breakdown and the cup of Joe, keep it up! I just scroll past the things I do not want to read.

    What a concept!!!

  8. eric Says:

    JJ and Freeman are quite different, so I think Mangini is full of it on this one. Obviously, the bucs stand a much better chance with Free provided he has really improved his propensity for the INT.

    I am more interested in how the bucs handle a wildcat with Seneca Wallace and keep Mr. Cribbs from busting a big play. Cleveland is medocre offensively, but they do have the capacity to mix it up causing some adjustments. 2.1 will have to be ready to improvise. And, somebody better be in Jake’s face.

  9. McBuc Says:

    Eric, I agree that we have to bring it to Jake all day long. I am not so sure that Mangini is off base. Both JJ and Freeman can hurt you by keeping a play going. Freeman will break loose from defenders and throw the ball, and JJ will leave the pocket and run for a gain. I think you defend this in the dame manner. If JJ is in, they just do not have to worry about the deep ball.

  10. Joe Says:


    Please add up the number of non-Bucs posts compared to Bucs posts. What’s the ratio, 800-1?

    Geez, talk about nitpicking.

    Since you are not into excuses, Joe very likely has had the most consistent traffic the past week than he ever has, and in that same week included a grand total of two college football posts — two! — and four “Morning Cup of Joe” posts.

    That’s six non-Bucs posts in a week and Joe’s traffic has never been higher.

    Feel free to do the math.

  11. Hatey 80 Says:

    Yo Joe! Gonna answer my question too? 😛

  12. Joe Says:


    Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated.

  13. bucfanjeff Says:

    It’s just my personal take and I don’t mind the advertising on the sides – I’m not talking about that. I don’t see how = Condoms for cons or Grabbing beard of naked neighbor. Additionally, the overall tone could be better, but I understand that’s what Joe does – spawn hate and get people wound up – it sells, so to speak. And I wouldn’t call it the “best Bucs site”, that’s a stretch since a blog is just regurgitated material from other sites. Pewter Report does a much more thorough job overall, though sometimes a little late to the scoop – or posting it anyway. I’ll give Joe props in that regard. And I do have espn insider..

  14. Joe Says:

    Hatey 80:

    This season is all about development. Not one sober person at One Buc Palace is talking about playoffs. So why risk Freeman’s development over a meaningless game? Let him play when he’s healthy, no need to push it. A fractured thumb on a quarterback’s throwing hand is not an insignificant thing.

  15. Joe Says:


    Please notice that the college football post is written by Joe’s primary sponsor.

    Glad to see you are not offended by ads. Hate to inform you Joe is not a charity. If you want — and it seems judging by the feedback and the traffic figures from Google you may be the only one — Joe will be happy to charge everyone $10 a month to access this site.

    Sadly, that’s a piss poor business plan.

    Joe’s only advice is to suck it up like a man.

  16. Dew Says:

    I lost that game last night in my pool pick because the idiot missed the extra point. What a joke.

  17. Jonny Says:

    Has Mangini watched any tape on both the Joshes? They both have completely different styles of play. Yes both are kinda elusive inside and outside the pocket, but Freeman priority is always completing a pass where as JJ tries to run once he is out of pocket even if receivers are open.

    Also, JJ has a noodle arm, the passing game is pretty much dink and dunk with him, inaccurate on throws over 20 yards. JF is the opposite, strong arm and often takes chances downfield.

  18. BigMacAttack Says:

    Again, for the 1000’th time, I feel it is too early to judge the team, their upcoming record, or where they will end up. All in all, the starters played well in the 1’st 3 games. We didn’t give up many points either. I see a lot of fire in this youthful team, and as always LUCK plays into the equation. I wasn’t impressed with either the Saints or the Vikings last night. They both looked a little flat and very beatable. I think the Bucs could be very explosive and have the ability to get on a roll, racking up some serious points. The 1’st time we really see them (at least some of us) is this Sunday. Every team holds back and sandbags a little in pre-season, so we’ll see what Olson has in his bag-o-tricks. Sapp says it is a race to 6 for the Bucs, but at this point, I’m still banking on a race to 10 until they prove otherwise.

    And Joe, you’d be a fool to change this site. Variety is good, girls in bikinis is better, and Buc girls in bikinis is best.

  19. Kris Culaj Says:

    This website is waayyyy better that PEWTER REPORT!!!!

  20. Joe Says:

    Kris Culaj:

    Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated.

  21. bucfanjeff Says:

    Ads were never an issue and only brought up by somebody else. I’m also glad to see that your primary sponsors have earned the right to post your site – added value I guess. As for your $10 reference and innuendo, your site would not be worth it since, for the most part, it is just your negative opinion on someone else’s work. At least you stay on top of it and give required credit, though backhanded at times. PR does an outstanding job for my annual $10 and worth every penny to me. Don’t misunderstand my comments, once I’ve read the news from the source, I am somewhat entertained by your recycled spin. I just wish it wasn’t so negative all the time.
    Thanks for listening.

  22. Kris Culaj Says:

    I agree with BigMacAttack has to say.

  23. bucfanjeff Says:

    And I do like the Steve White, Carlson, etc posts because they’re Bucs related.

  24. BigMacAttack Says:

    I have not gone to the PR site in over a year. I get all I need right here and on the St Pete Times site, oh and of course, I like the Joes and I like Holder & Stroud.

    The “Joes” absolutely update this site better than any other Buc Site, IMO. “Steve White” is a wealth of info, is kind enough to debate the readers, and offer direct insight. There is “FormerBuc” that drops his comments from time to time and Carlson with his column. I just don’t think you can get a better Buc Blog with more facts and credibility. And eric & mushy provide humor to brighten up gloomy days. All this for free. What more can a Bucs fan ask for?

  25. bucfanjeff Says:

    I will agree that the “Joes” are Johnny on the spot with regards to posting. For me personally, PR provides a level of depth and analysis that I prefer more.

  26. Cannon Says:

    Gotta also give Joe props for providing timely shots of gorgeous cheerleaders.

  27. BucRayJ Says:

    Mangini is blowing smoke, though there are a few obvious similarities between the two, the game plan for both will probably be entirely different. Josh and Josh are too unique in that they will do different things on offense with both guys. I hope Mangini is really telling the truth because that could be an advantage for the Bucs.

  28. McBuc Says:

    I agree with Bigmac. I used to go to PR all the time, I really dislike their layout to tell the truth. The Joes have the best Bucs blog on the net. That being said you should not compare the two, PR is an “online magazine”, and Joe’s site is a blog. Not to mention the comment section on PR makes Eric, Thomas, Mushy, and Rahdom look like a bunch of rays of sunshine. Joe, do not change a thing! The formula is working!

  29. McBuc Says:

    Dew…he did not miss the extra point, it was blocked.

  30. Joe Says:

    Thank you McBuc!!!