Peter King Talks To Joe

August 31st, 2011

Recently, Joe got a chance to interview vaunted Sports Illustrated NFL writer Peter King. The man is near omnipresent during football season. His Monday Morning Quarterback column on SI.com is a must-read for NFL fans to begin the ugly work week. He also is a devout Twitterer who often holds Tweetups throughout the country . He can also be seen on Football Night in America on NBC and he is a regular co-host of “The Opening Drive,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

King stopped in Tampa on his multiple-city tour of NFL sites during training camp and the preseason. King was sequestered by the Bucs at One Buc Palace starting his day with a one-on-one with Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik at 7 a.m. and continued his day with many Bucs players and coaches.

JoeBucsFan: Your impression on the Bucs thus far after meeting with so many executives, coaches and players?

Peter King: When you basically see a team a day you try to look at the overall team and where they are. To me, this is going to be a great example of a team’s scouting department being at one with the team’s coaching staff because what they have basically done is take four defensive linemen the last two years in the top two rounds. At the start of the year, it should be [Brian] Price and [Gerald] McCoy if they are healthy and sound and have [Adrian] Clayborn and [Da'Quan] Bowers if they are ready to go. That is as much talent as any team has in the NFL IF Brian Price’s weird sort of hip injury and surgery mends correctly and he is able to be the player he was in college and if Bowers’ knee can stay fine. It is fine now.

You think of those guys playing in tandem and being coached by a maniac like Keith Millard, especially in the pass rush game, they obviously have a tremendous opportunity to be good for a very long time. That is the first thing that jumps out at me.

If you look at cornerstone players of this team, with the exception of Ronde, every single guy that is vitally important for this team has been here three years or less. You think of Josh Freeman and you think of LeGarrette Blount and you think of Mike Williams and you think of all of those guys on the defensive line.

And again, there are other important players like [Donald] Penn and other guys on the line and linebacker, but to me, what they have built here and tried to build are a very young team with players they view as personally and professionally the long-term cornerstone guys, the way Derrick Brooks and [Warren] Sapp were in the last generation of Bucs.

Joe: Mark Dominik has spoken often of how he wants to build through the draft and is trying to emulate how the Packers and Steelers stock their rosters by building through the draft, a noble goal. But the fans have howled in outrage that Dominik won’t go acquire a top-of-the-line starter through free agency — sans a punter — to bolster the roster. Do you think Dominik may be putting way too much emphasis and pressure on guys he has drafted and perhaps the fans could be right in that a starter or two signed through free agency maybe isn’t such a mortal sin as some suggest?

King: I think this year is going to tell the tale of that. You will know at the end of this year… look, no team ever bats 1.000 on high picks. One of those guys on the defensive line won’t come through with the promise they thought he had. Football odds say that. But if you look at the Steelers, the Steelers have a philosophy both in terms of the kind of player they want and the type of players that fit in Dick LeBeau’s defense, so it’s admirable to have that trait because what happens is, by the time you have to pay for a free agent to be that guy, he is going to cost a lot of money.

The only other thing I would say is, I think more and more and more in the next few years, free agency is going to be used as Scotch tape instead of big solutions because if you look at what happened this year, 58 percent of all free agents signed — 200 and some odd free agents signed — have been one-year contracts. Usually about two-thirds of the contracts signed are multi-year. This year the majority are one-year contracts and that says to me, A) Teams are not spending in free agency that they once have been at times; and, B) Since the cap is going to be relatively flat in the next two years I think that is what is going to happen unless you are looking for, say, a Charles Johnson, a young defensive end who will be good for the next 10 years and he is on the market or if you are looking for a Nnamdi Asomugha, that is understandable.

But I think most teams are not going to use free agency as the big splash move way. They will use it mainly as caulking.

Joe: If Joe recalls correctly, right before the Super Bowl you wrote a feature on Ted Thompson …

King: Right.

Joe: …the Packers respected general manager, in Sports Illustrated and he summed up his philosophy on signing big-named free agents as “over-aged and overpriced.”

King: Well, what happens, traditionally most free agents — and the Packers either got lucky or brilliant with Charles Woodson because he was a seven-year guy by the time he got to them and has been a much better player with the Packers than he ever was in Oakland — most players by the time they become free agents you are paying them as much for what they have been than as what they will be. So you are better off developing your own guys. No team can develop all their own guys. You always need help from the outside but you are smartest by far in developing your own guys and letting the chips fall where they may.

Joe: Do you see any common denominator with the Bucs players, whether it is their personalities or whatever? It seems Dominik is looking for a certain quality or personality. He only drafts guys that are captains with the inference that they are leaders. It seems the guys he drafts are good people, generally good people.

King: I think even the guys who have had check marks or chequered pasts like Mike Williams and LeGarrette Blount are guys when you meet them and talk to them, you like. There is no element of thuggery on this team. I think the smart thing they have done, they have taken the guys at the most important positions and made them good, leader-type people. Josh Freeman is the best example. I was just talking to Freeman about — I learned this from Tony Dungy: When Freeman was drafted, his dad called Dungy and said, “Hey, my son is really young, would you mind keeping an eye out for him, reach out to him once in a while?” And gave him his number.

Dungy talked to him three or four times and said to him, “You can call me any time but you don’t need me. You are fine.” At the time the kid was 21 years old. I think Freeman is a really good long-term guy to build your franchise around because he wants it so bad.

This is a great time to be a Bucs fan, it really is. You have all of these young guys, and yeah, not all of them will pan out, but they won 10 games last year and no one thought they would win 10 games. And they are set up for the future.

Joe: You have been traveling around in a USO van, talk about it.

King: I was looking a month before training camp started, wanted to find a bus to take to all the training camp sites (though it’s not here today) and and a guy from the USO called and said, “Maybe we can help each other out?” The van goes to bases all over the country which don’t have USO [facilities]. I’ve been to maybe 13 or 14 camps with that vehicle.

They brought in troops everywhere we have been and they come and meet the players at each practice and it is fun for the players too. Jim Schwartz had lunch with them. Mike Munchak had 25-airman from Fort Campbell in Kentucky out and have a day with the Titans. It’s really been good and rewarding to know that the guys in the NFL really have not forgotten. Many people in the USA have no idea we are in an active war now and the guys int he NFL remember that and hopefully give something to these men to remember and maybe take home with them.

15 Responses to “Peter King Talks To Joe”

  1. CalicoJack Says:

    Peter King ‘rocking’ to his favorite ABBA song – “Another Town, Another Train”…

    So, let’s see… “The Plan” is to emulate a team with no owners (green bay) and a team with no GM (steelers)… I could get to like that !!!

  2. Dave Says:

    So when do certain people come on here and start saying how those teams and King are wrong and that the Bucs should go out and spend in FA like Snyder on a bender?

  3. Macabee Says:

    OK, somebody come clean. Which one of the Joes did the interview and refers to King as near omnipresent? And which one affectionately refers to Peter King as “coffee-slurping, popcorn-shoveling, fried chicken-eating, and oatmeal-loving? Hopefully not the same one! Not to say those references are mutually- exclusive! lol.

  4. Joe Says:

    CalicoJack:

    Kevin Colbert is the Steelers general manager.

  5. CalicoJack Says:

    Yeah, he is. Their first GM in 65 years. They haven’t won a Super Bowl since he got that gig…

  6. Garv Says:

    So essentially Peter King thinks the Buccaneers are quite correct in building through the draft. He also seems to think they’re damn good at it and on the right path to success.

    Surprise surprise…….SO DO I!!!

    Nice interview with a smart and very relevant NFL writer. Kudos Joe!

  7. CalicoJack Says:

    Good ol’ Peter. Did you ask him why he picked the Bucs to win 2 games last year?

  8. Matthew Says:

    Thank you CalicoJack for someone not slurping the King-Kool-Aid. While I respect the guy as a “professional writer”; Peter King has time and time again been rated one of the WORST prediction/prognosticators in the NFL media. I’m glad he glossed the fact he had zero faith in the Bucs, Freeman, or Raheem/Dominik. I’m not saying the guy has to agree with all things Bucs but over the years he’s been very much a Big City/Big Team NFL regurgitating talking head, providing very little in regards to insightful analysis of the Bucs. The Football Outsiders, and personal blogs the likes of “Joe’s” and others really are far more in the know then media types like King.
    “Five words you never want to say to your team or to your fans: ‘This is a rebuilding year.’ Realistically, though, there’s no other way the Bucs can present their 2010 season to the faithful. Bucs will go 2-14″
    -Peter King 2010

  9. Joe Says:

    Matthew:

    Peter King has time and time again been rated one of the WORST prediction/prognosticators in the NFL media.

    LOL First, Joe would love to read a link to someone who has that much time on their hands to monitor record predictions from sportswriters.

    (If it means anything, two years ago Peter King beat out Mike Mayock in predicting first round draft picks.)

    As Joe once again writes, a journalist is not a handicapper. If they were, they wouldn’t be writing for a living, Joe can tell you that for sure.

    If you want to lay cash on someone’s predictions, leave that to the Vegas guys.

    Over the years, Joe noticed how people want to skin Adam Schein. He, of course, was wrong when he predicted the Bucs to win four games in 2009.

    The Bucs won three games that season.

  10. Matthew Says:

    Football Outsiders and a couple other websites over there years have compiled “journalist” predictions and compared them. Peter King has ranked at the bottom or dead last several times. The draft “predictions” are pretty lame/useless as many teams now let leak who they are looking at ahead of time via workouts & teams for the most part are fairly slotted as who they can take with the exception of trades. Look I get “Joe” looks at Peter King as a friend, so you feel the need to defend him. I can respect that. I wasn’t trying to launch a “personal attack on King. I noted above that he obviously has ability to write professionally, that’s why a major publication like SI employs him. I merely making a valid critique I believe, in that when it comes to his Bucs’ coverage/insight I find him rather lacking in any real substance. I’m not looking to “skin” the guy or run him out of town, just provide a counter point to some of the “King Love” that goes on from time to time.

    As for laying cash on predicitons the last place I’d look is big time media types like Peter King so that’s not the issue. The Vegas guys tend to be far more technical in their analysis anyways; or as I stated before the local blogs such as yourself and others who have the time to actually know write with some knowledge about the actual team, and not the BSPN, SI, ect. carbon copy cliff notes.

  11. jvato24 Says:

    Good Interview Joe!!!

  12. Joe Says:

    Thanks jvato24!

  13. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Best quotes:

    “…most players by the time they become free agents you are paying them as much for what they have been than as what they will be. So you are better off developing your own guys.”

    “There is no element of thuggery on this team. I think the smart thing they have done, they have taken the guys at the most important positions and made them good, leader-type people.”

    “This is a great time to be a Bucs fan, it really is.”

  14. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    All the pessimists can put that in your pipes and smoke the hell out of it. How ya like them apples, eh?

  15. BigMacAttack Says:

    Give that man another double cheeseburger and hurry up widat.

 
 

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