Day 2 Minicamp Notes, Nuggets & News

June 14th, 2018

It’s off to the air conditioning! Joe gleefully jogged across the One Buc Palace practice fields to the indoor facility for viewing of Wednesday’s two-hour practice. Here’s your need-to-know:

* Ronald Jones up the middle for a four-yard touchdown. Yes, underwear football where a running back doesn’t have to worry about getting bruised.

* Jacquizz Rodgers scores on the very same play on the next play.

* INTERCEPTION! Someone steps on Ryan Fitzpatrick’s foot as the pocket collapses and Fitz stumbles away from trouble and throws off his back foot into the end zone as he is falling backwards. Great pursuit and tip by rookie safety Jordan Whitehead. Ball is picked by safety Isaiah Johnson.

*Offensive coordinator Todd Monken didn’t like the rhythm of the red-zone, walk-through like period. Jameis Winston is barking rhythm after that to the offense.

*Mike Evans beats Brent Grimes easily on a slant in the end zone. And here comes the slam dunk over the goal posts. Grimes is annoyed.

*11-on-11 red zone kicks up and it’s a draw to Peyton Barber, followed by a short pass to Barber to the 4 yard line. In a real game, Lavonte David is in position to completely blow him up.

*The run-pass-option appears and it’s not smooth, but it is a touchdown (underwear football) for Ronald Jones.

*Adam Humphries either couldn’t handle a rocket in the end zone (red zone) or Hargreaves had a nice breakup. Regardless, coverage was there.

*Back to Humphries and he shows some hops and catches and toe-taps in the end zone in a crowd.

*Perhaps nothing is more fun in these spring practices than watching Brentson Buckner coach players through drills. Joe spent a lot of time on that. Video later today.

* Alan Cross with a sweet outstretched catch down middle for a touchdown from Fitz.

* Bernard Reedy on a bubble screen from Ryan Griffin.

* Fitz rifles a pass during seven-on-seven drills in a crowd and threads the needle to find tight end Jason Reese for a 10-yard touchdown.

* Koetter seems ready for some football. He called a special teams play for the punt team and sharply slapped his hands together.

*Oh, no. Another out-of-sync moment by Jameis and DeSean Jackson. Three-yard pass in red zone lands short. Jackson comes back for ball, dives but can’t grab it.

*Jameis too high for O.J. Howard.

*DROP! Ronald Jones in the red zone, dumpoff pass.

*Man, the Bucs’ third-team defense looks bad. But more important, Vita Vea and Jason Pierre-Paul look awfully special.

*Plenty of juice in Charles Sims’ legs.

*Davonte Bond with a pass breakup on Barber.

* Mike Evans catches a short pass from Jameis for a touchdown and Vernon Hargreaves looked hopeless and helpless on the play as Jameis made sure he put the ball where the former Texas high school basketball star could grab the ball, and Hargreaves couldn’t. In general, Hargreaves looks so comfortable and instinctive in the slot. Different player when he’s on the outside.

* Ronald Jones with a monster gain up middle. He sure does have a burst. But again, underwear football.

* Jones around left end… to the house.

* Evans catches a short pass from Jameis to left for about 25 yards.

* Jameis connects with O.J. Howard for a monster gain in the right seam between Hargreaves and Kwon Alexander. Explosive play indeed. The kind of look that would get Bucs fans fantasizing.

*Howard comes back and hauls in a mid-range throw with Kwon covering. Howard appears unstoppable when using his size.

* Jacquizz Rodgers takes off around left end for a 47- yard score.

*Bond redeems himself with another pass breakup.

*Great moment in the stands. Bucs have V.I.P. guests in attendance, roughly 400. At one point, Joe is sitting with esteemed columnist Ira Kaufman of A roughly 21-year-old turns around, looks at Ira and playful barks, ‘Hey, Irv.’ The reply? “That’s Sage to you young man.” It wasn’t Ira’s only interesting fan encounter of the day, but those will be shared on the Ira Kaufman Podcast next week.

31 Responses to “Day 2 Minicamp Notes, Nuggets & News”

  1. BucDan Says:

    Great write up, per usual.

    I had a great time (as did other fans) going directly indoors and testing out the new facility. A/C on full blast tells me the Bucs were prepared!

    Another shout out to Ira, Tampa Bay’s Hall of Fame voter! He had that column up quick! I currently stick to the reading side of things, but my friend informed me that the podcast is no joke! Keep up the great work!

  2. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe….how is Justin Watson doing….is he on the field?

    Also how are some of the UDFA doing…..the future grad students, P.E. teachers stock brokers, and sports blog writers……(there is my sense of humor)

  3. Bird Says:

    Jpp and vea look awfully special ?

    Clarify? Cause you used 3rd team defense looks bad right before comment

  4. Steven007 Says:

    Hey, I wonder if they’re playing underwear football? Again, the over-under on how many times Joe mentions underwear football for mini camp is around 100.

  5. SCBucsFan Says:

    Thanks for the writeup! Great stuff.

    Its a drinking game… drink a shot everytime you read underwear football.

  6. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Yeah…mentioning underwear football almost every time Ronald Jones is mentioned seems overdone. Lol

    Would also like clarification on JPP and Vea statement.

  7. ChanEpic Says:

    Elaborate a little more on the JPP/Vea comment? Can’t make sense of it. Other than that it reads like Jones is getting a ton of work and that’s great.
    ??Men, there is nothing to clarify on the JPP/Vea comment. It’s positive and that is the intent. –Joe

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    My take on JPP/Vea is that they are new players….first seen together and they are very large and they are Bucs Dlinemen……hooray!!!

  9. SOEbuc Says:


    How’s the kicker looking? Remember first two days of practice he made like 9 of 10. I forget his name.

    Excited to see VH3 in the slot. Getting tons of good talk. Could he be the #11 pick and we just didn’t know where to put him?

  10. SOEbuc Says:

    Maybe the JPP/Vea means they look like they are already syncing together getting of the ball together. That’s all I can think of.

  11. 813bucboi Says:

    could it be that VHG is comfortable and confident in the slot because he’s use to playing at the LOS?….wish smitty would play to his strengths and let all our CB’s play close to the LOS….no more soft coverage!!!!!!!


  12. SCBucsFan Says:

    SOE, 11 pick or not the slot back is an important role to fill; if that’s his ceiling and he’s good there, so be it. Don’t pound the square peg into the round hole. The pick is long gone, use the guy best we can, I agree.

  13. TJ Says:

    Joe!! Thanks so much for sharing the interaction with Irv/Sage, that was my son…Man, you were very rough on the age! He’s 14. Thanks again for sharing, great to see you gentlemen yesterday!
    Had prescription sunglasses on expecting an outdoor practice. He must have looked older in the darkness. LOL. –Joe

  14. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:

    Vh3 is a pop warner coach at best. Another 6th rd talent with no upside over drafted by an incompetent organization. If bucs have to rely on the short, slow and stupid vh3 for more than 5 or 6 relief plays a game the pass defense will be dead last again.

  15. 813bucboi Says:

    seems like the offense is out of sync which is odd….the only new player is jones….everyone should be comfortable and know what their doing since most have been in the offense the past couple years….

    imo, the 4vert offense is outdated….puts up tons of yards but not many points or “W’s”…..


  16. SOEbuc Says:


    Might be because Monken is totally running the show on offense and it is taking some time to adjust. Or so I hope.

  17. Defense Rules Says:

    Great recap Joe, thanks. After watching the video, this statement about VHIII got me wondering … “Hargreaves looks so comfortable and instinctive in the slot. Different player when he’s on the outside.” Hargreaves was up at the line to start the play against ME13, but got blown up fast once they crossed the goal line together. Not even a contest once Mike turned around to face back towards Jameis. Justin Evans (21) looked like he made a nice move avoiding traffic to stay in his coverage on Cam Brate. Hoping for a big year from #21 once the season starts.

  18. 813bucboi Says:


    I thought that at first but he’s been here for a while now too…..maybe he’s putting his own little wrinkle in….or at least I hope so…..


  19. Diesel Says:

    Awesome practice yesterday, I enjoyed every second. Speaking of VH3, lil bro is playing with a lot of confidence and it clearly shows on the field amongst his teammates. Kwon was his usual self which is always awesome to see. Explosives all over the field yesterday on both sides of the ball. I really enjoyed seeing Coach Spicer and Buckner working with the dline. Evans is truly a mismatch in the slot, especially in the redzone as seen above. Hopefully there’s more to come of that once the season starts. OJ’s confidence is on the rise. Same for CG12, Peyton and RoJo. Always a pleasure being in the presence of THE SAGE. Steve(Joe) you lay off my guy!! lol. BLESSINGS….speak softly….

  20. ManzielMadness Says:

    “Howard appears unstoppable when using his size.”

    Personally, I Wouldn’t mind running this offense through the running game and our two tight end sets. Move OJ around a la Gronk, run the ball and control the TOP… should help out our defense, especially the first half… give them time to gel and we should close out the season strong..

  21. Buccernutter Says:

    Umm no lol. I would say calcification was needed in regards to vea and jpp. There were several of us confused as you had put it in the same statement as the third string defense was looking bad.

    But thanks for the condescending clarification, I guess.

  22. German Buc Says:

    || “Howard appears unstoppable when using his size.”

    Yeah! And imagine opponents start paying special attention to OJ and we start using Cam Brate!

  23. Buccernutter Says:


  24. 813bucboi Says:


    me and LC have been saying that all offseason…..a 2 TE set offense would help the run game, create mismatch problem in the passing game and help our offense become less predictable…..hope dirk and or monken listen and take notes…..


  25. Robert Says:

    this might seem like a wierd observation. it seems when backup qb’s are playing they hit no name receivers all the time. why doesn’t JW do that….throw to guys they woud not expect/not named evans

  26. Bucsfanman Says:

    Man, if VHIII can get his head right and into the game, that is just gravy. We need him to step up so it’s good to hear, albeit “underwear football”, that he’s progressing.

    813- The 2 TE set is a no-brainer. Why it wasn’t utilized more is a mystery. Don’t forget, same coaches so, we’ll see.

  27. 813bucboi Says:


    same coaches, that’s what scares me…..hopefully they prove me wrong…..


  28. RODNEY Says:

    Reality is a biatch or tmax what ever. Do u ever have a positive comment or are u always a negative Nancy? Just curious

  29. SOEbuc Says:

    Koetter answered my earlier question about the kicker’s status in his day three PC. 58-yarder. Nice.

  30. ChanEpic Says:

    ??Men, there is nothing to clarify on the JPP/Vea comment. It’s positive and that is the intent. –Joe

    Joe(s), I guess what was confusing was mentioning the 3rd string D and then saying JPP/Vea look special, as if they were running with the 3rd string D. Now it’s pretty clear though. Thx.

  31. webster Says:

    @ robert

    First of all joe is providing individual plays. He is not giving the play by play. Secondly, jameis plays with the 1st team. His options are not no name receivers. Come on man, you cant be that clueless. Anything to take a weak jab at jameis. Buc fans smdh