Charges Dropped On Aqib Talib

June 18th, 2012

It’s official per the Dallas County court system, case number F1126192, State vs. Aqib Talib, was dismissed today in advance of Talib’s scheduled trial date next week.

That means the state’s felony assault with a deadly weapon charge against Talib is gone.

Perhaps the State took a look at the motion filed by Talib’s legal team on June 7 and realized they had no shot? Or perhaps Talib’s accuser changed his tune, as often happens in cases that involve domestic violence?

Joe will update more as he secures more data. But now Talib is free and clear and must only wait to hear from Roger Goodell, if the commissioner chooses to pursue scouring Talib’s soon-to-be-closed case file for reasons to suspend him. Also, Joe can’t wait to read what some loyal JoeBucsFan commenters who were so confident in the state’s flimsy case against Talib will have to say.

This is a great day for the 2012 Bucs.

117 Responses to “Charges Dropped On Aqib Talib”

  1. Garv Says:


    It’s over, we can move on and we can keep one of the top CB’s in the game.
    The case always did sound flimsy to me. Anyway, regardless of what some fans might thing, what matters is what Coach Schiano and Mark Dominik think and how Aqib gets along with his teammates. As far as I have heard it’s all been positive.

  2. DallasBuc Says:

    Joe- with the case now dismissed and the incident having taken place during the lockout, is there any way the emperor can touch Talib legally or otherwise?

  3. kh Says:

    To all those who were convinced he was going to slammer: I told you so!

  4. DallasBuc Says:

    Oh yeah, this is great news btw!!! Go Bucs

  5. Andrewbucsfan Says:

    Talib being back for the beginning on the season is huge! We need all our defensive starters from day one so we can pick up some momentum coming off of last seasons terrible D. Plus we don’t have to watch Ej biggers on the field every play

  6. Andrew Says:


    I said from day 1 he would get off scott free. not because he is innocent but because he is a loaded athlete playing in the nfl who can by the best lawyers in the country.

    this is good for the bucs but its [email protected] that if you or me did this we would be sitting in jail right but since the person is high profile his case gets “dismissed”. this countries justice system is [email protected] up.

  7. kh Says:

    No Andrew, I’m fairly certain that if any of us were accused by someone with as shady of a rap-sheet as Talib’s accuser the case would be difficult.

  8. Dini's Biceps Says:

    Yesssssss! I’m amazed by all the people who wanted to see this guy fry. He was in a highly explosive situation trying to protect family against a guy with a Wrap Sheet a mile long. Yesssssssss!

  9. JT Says:

    Getting the popcorn… Waiting on Thomas 2.2

  10. admin Says:

    JOe here,

    @DallasBuc – the answer to your question is, Yes, and Joe will delve into why in a morning post on the subject.

  11. ron Says:

    jt he wont show

  12. Miguel Grande Says:

    It would be political suicide to prosecute this case. It cost more than $10,000 a day just to seat a jury. This case could not be won by the prosecution. They milked the publicity for as long as they could and Talib’s legal team forced their hand through their discovery demands.

    It’s not against the law in many states to openly carry a firearm. I don’t recommend firing a weapon at a suspected child molester but you do have to convince a jury that Aqib was indeed the one who fired the shot and that it was unwarranted. All that was virtually impossible given that the accuser would be sitting in the courtroom wearing an orange jumpsuit and wearing handcuffs and leg irons. A convicted child molester.

    Congratulations to Aqib Talib and the Buccaneers, you indeed dodged a bullet.

  13. Dini's Biceps Says:

    As a critic of Mark Dominik, this draft turned-out ballsy: by not drafting Claiborne, adding Eric Wright, moving Ronde to FS and maybe CB sometimes, adding Mark Barron….. NOW, our secondary is SOLID BABY!!!!! Plus, we have Doug Martin (solid at RB now) and a starting caliber OLB Lavonte David !!!!!!!! Yes!!!!

  14. Eric Says:

    The correct and very predictable result.

    Joe, they waited so long to try and get Aqib to plea to a lesser charge to save face for the cops and their office. Happens every day.

    Thankfully, he had the fortitude to hang in there as well as the money to fight it.

    Excellent news.

  15. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Don’t think the commish can touch any player prior to the ratification of the CBA. Talib should not be suspended, and most likely won’t be.

  16. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Really cant wait to hear 2.2’s take on this since he was so sure Talib was going to be convicted.

  17. Bucnjim Says:

    He’s not a favorite of Capt Tim’s either! Let’s see what he has to say.

  18. Eric Says:

    If the commish suspends the guy after this nonsense was dropped it would be a grave injustice.

    Is there some sort of clause against defending your sister against scumbags?

  19. raphael Says:

    ….. until next time

  20. Karl Says:

    To all whom who wanted Talib gone before he even had his chance to prove himself innocent or atleast prove there was no case because he slapt a cabbie in the back of the head (supposably) and had a altercation with a fellow player in camp a fe wyears back. SUCK IT!!!! You should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to get rid of Talib (and possably) ruin his career because you dont like his temper.

  21. raphael Says:

    Awesome…we can trade him now for a higher draft pick. sry the guy is trouble

  22. Nate Says:

    Our Secondary looks amazing and the bucs did the right thing by drafting a safety vs a corner.. We got Talib and Wright as our lock down corners and Barron and Barber at safety were looking good.. If we got some pass rush we could be in the market for alot of pick 6’s next year!

  23. RIs_Buc Says:

    Hit my sister and I’m “bucc’ing” at somebody!
    Congrats Aquib, now we can concentrate solely on Football.

  24. below me Says:

    FREE OKOLO!!!!!!

  25. Andrew Says:

    @ kh

    that is a good point, but if you have the money and/or social class of an athlete or movie star or whatever, you are most likely going to get away with whatever crime you are accused of committing regardless of weather you are guilty or not. that is something the rest of us do not have the luxury of having and that is what has me a little upset.

    regardless I am happy that the bucs have our best players back because we sure do need him.

  26. BigMacAttack Says:

    Great news, let’s just hope he doesn’t do something stupid between now and camp. If he has finally got it, the future is bright for him and the team.

  27. Deminion Says:

    I knew he would b straight the whole time…. For the record I am pro Talib go bucs !!!!!

  28. Lion Says:

    ,Where is that moron Thomas at lol, and he claims to be a lawyer. What a joke..

  29. Deminion Says:

    Can’t keep a good man down

  30. Macabee Says:

    Rare day! Roger Clemens not guilty, Talib’s case dismissed, agree with both Eric and Big Mike aka Miguel Grande. What next? The lottery? (so thrilled by Talib’s dismissal, just having a little fun) lol.

  31. ATLBuc Says:

    Absolutely fantastic news!! The secondary suddenly looks a lot better.

  32. Jeff78280z Says:

    This makes the Mark Barron pick look allot better! The bucks secondary should be much improved this year. Barring injury of ofcourse.

  33. j lynch Says:

    good lawyers scumbag accuser he pistol whipped the guy and probably did shoot at him and provided a gun to his felon mother too .beat up a cab driver. hes rich and gets away with it till next time

  34. Miguel Grande Says:


    “if you have the money and/or social class of an athlete or movie star or whatever, you are most likely going to get away with whatever crime you are accused of committing regardless of weather you are guilty or not. that is something the rest of us do not have the luxury of having and that is what has me a little upset.”

    That’s not completely true. A District Attorney’s office has budget constraints where they simply can not go off on crusades. They have to analyze many factors before fully prosecuting. Most cases simply do not go to trial. In this case, they bluffed and Talib’s attorney would not settle. They simply didn’t have the ammunition needed for a successful prosecution.

    Actually, a prosecutor who has higher political ambitions would love to fully prosecute an athlete or movie star so they can get their name on TV every night. The bigger the trial the better.

  35. Bucnjim Says:

    If the accuser beats women and molests children; the jury would have handed him a medal on the way out. No one needed money or big name lawyers for this case.

  36. Eric Says:

    Probably join Joseph as another chucky pro bowl draftee…..

  37. MOBucs Says:

    Talib is no role model or somebody to look up to, but there was no evidence to convict this guy of anything. I’m no lawyer and I could see that based on the evidence provided. Will Talib walk the straight and narrow from now on? Doubtful.

  38. Drew Says:

    How many ways can I say it!!! Awesome!!! Fantastic!!! Alright Aqib!!! Man I am so Happy that I’m ecstatic!!!

  39. K1ngadroc Says:

    Great news for Aqib, I hope this is the experience he needed to turn the adolescent corner and grow as a man. Happy for him and his family

  40. Meh Says:


  41. Phenom4498 Says:

    IN YOUR FACE THOMAS!!!! Where is he anyways?? Surprising he isnt here running his lawyer mouth making excuses, any othet time there is an article on Talib hes all over it, its nice not to see him for ONCE!!!

  42. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Take your beating like a man Thomas. What a little girl, a no show.

  43. Tim Says:

    How is this great “lawyering” by Talib’s team when the case was dropped a week before trial? Obviously, the prosecutor had nothing. What a joke.

  44. Dylan Says:

    @Joe LOL coming from the guy who was all about cutting or trading aqib talib when the bucs were predicted to get Morris Claiborne. I postedany times in his defense and everyone laughed and argued. Such a hypocrit I classify you in the same class as your ending paragraph. You were right along with all of them. #Aqib”s back #WootWoot #2 corner in nfl.

  45. BucFan20 Says:

    Chip Carter Fox 13 talked to Talib’s lawyer. According to him, The case was dismissed because.
    The prosecution did not fell the witness would be credible. There was more but it all boiled down to the one in jail now.

    Now Coach get his A$$ on the phone and make sure he stays out of trouble.

  46. admin Says:

    Joe here,

    @Dylan – You must have been reading wrong. Joe was never all about cutting or trading Talib. Joe has archives. You’re welcome to it. And there were many people here defending Talib. You’re welcome to click the link above to one of Joe’s many in-depth posts about the case, stuff that wasn’t published anywhere else.

    All that said, Talib still has limited trade value, is in a contract year, and remains a volatile character. Joe will have a post tomorrow morning about how Goodell still has stuff related to this case that he can use against Talib in the future.

  47. raphael Says:

    Talib is a thug and should be traded..its just a matter of time before he gets stupid again…

  48. Blackmagic00 Says:

    i like 2.2s take on most stuff as he does keep a lot real, but what the heck. where is he? were all waiting man, what do you think?

  49. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    No he should not be traded, his value on the field for us far out weighs any trade value we would get for him. Unless he screws up again, no way he goes anywhere else this year.

  50. BucFan20 Says:

    ^ feel

  51. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Give 2.2 some time, it takes a while for a man to think of a good excuse for why they were dead wrong about a subject.

  52. raphael Says:

    srsly who gives a crap what some pimple face punk 2.2 thinks..some of you are hilarious, get a life

  53. Thomas2.2 Says:

    If Talib were a better player and person I would be happier.

    I am no fan of wrongful prosecutions, so admittedly I mistakenly assumed that the prosecution had physical evidence, and not just Billings, to support the charges.

    The prosectors I have worked with would not have filed this case solely on the word of Billings – Billings subsequent arrests certainly contributed to this outcome. Talib certainly benefitted by shooting at a scumbag. I am appalled at the state if they were bluffing all along hoping for a plea.

    Do not confuse innocence with the inability to prove guilt people.

    It is just a matter of hours, days, weeks or months before Talib does something similar. I hope I am wrong and he grows up but with this guy that is unlikely.

    My conclusion: Talib was not good last year, but I am thankful to the good lord for this EJ “toast” Biggers never sees the field in 2012. So on second thought, Hell yea!

  54. Senor Piva Says:

    Hopefully, this will have been a wake up call for him, and hopefully the fair treatment he’s gotten from the new staff will instill a sense of loyalty, and maybe responsibility. We shall see

  55. Brian Says:

    I am such a sick Bucs fan. He will do worse before his life is done. However, if he helps this team at all this year, it was worth it. Win Win Win… we can fill the team with the state pen if that is what it takes. Ha, that was a Breakfast Club quote, “Win, Win, Win, I will not tolerate losers in this family!”

  56. passthebuc Says:

    @Raphael. What do you know about Talib that the rest of us do not. He has had 2 altercations, both of dubious circumstance. I was not there either time and having read accounts of both from different persons and points of view, I would be had pressed to have him run for congress nor crucify him.
    From your distaste, you must know something I do not, where you present both times????????????????????????

  57. Eric Says:

    The prosecutors you work with only proceed on cases with physical evidence?

    I’d love to meet some of those Thomas!

    Have you even been in a criminal courtroom sir? Nobody who ever has would make that statement.

    A first year Public Defender knows better than that.

  58. Thomas2.2 Says:

    Also, with the charges voluntarily dismissed there is NO way that Goodell should be able to punish him.

    That would be wrong on constitutional as well as moral grounds.

  59. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Thomas, just admit that you were a monumental failure on this one, not this “admittedly mistakenly” hogwash.

  60. BamBamBuc Says:

    I’ll stand tall here and take all you have to give. I have always said Talib needs to go and will continue to say it. He’s not as “good” of a player as many here think. He continually gets burned deep and on double moves while jumping the route to make the splash INT. His off field issues in the past are more than enough to boot him from the team if he doesn’t improve. As for this issue, dismissed charges don’t mean he didn’t do it. It means he may have gotten away with it. Just because the victim is a scumbag doesn’t mean the perpetrator has any right to do what he (or whoever) did. Many STILL call Big Ben “Rapist”burger after his charges were all dismissed. PacMan Jones has had to pay civil penalties, but hasn’t been directly convicted for anything either, yet he’s constantly considered a low-life loser even though his skills are probably as good as Talib’s.

    Personally, the sooner we can replace Talib the better in my book. Guilty or not.

  61. Thomas2.2 Says:

    Obviously Eric I meant, with a victim with as little credibility as Billings, the prosecutors would typically not maintain the case for 2 years without some physical evidence to support the charge.

    If you couldn’t comprehend that distinction, I have concerns about you.

    If your victim or eyewitness is Mother Teresa (or anyone more credible) that of course would be very different.

  62. BamBamBuc Says:

    Thomas, don’t forget that Goodell punished Rothleisberger after his charges were dismissed as well. PacMan has been suspended without a conviction also. Goodell doesn’t need convictions to suspend, just needs to show the player “tarnished the shield”. Being part of an altercation such as this (guilty or not) does not shine a good light on the NFL.

    I’m curious how many readers would support neighbors shooting weapons in their neighborhood? OK, so it was a “bad guy” he was shooting at… but supposedly the guy in Florida that shot that boy coming home from the convenience store also thought he was shooting at a “bad guy”. Are we to accept and allow all civilians to start firing weapons in neighborhoods where children may be playing, just because they think a guy might be a “bad guy”? Time for me to move back out to the country and away from all these people if that’s the case….

  63. BigMacAttack Says:

    Okay Thomas, you need to divert the focus back to GMC, and return to your comfort zone.

  64. BigMacAttack Says:

    I could see Goodell possibly giving Talib a game or two suspension, but that would still be better than the alternative of being guilty, jailed and then suspended for a year. This is still the best that Buc fans could have hoped for with him, but please no more screw ups Talib. He needs to hire a full time baby sitter, body guard, driver too keep him out of compromising situations.

  65. AfroBuc Says:

    Ya’ll wrong for the “FREE OKOLA” post, ( it was funny though).

  66. TrueBlue Says:

    The distinction I see is of a prosecutor that thought he could bluff his way into a plea deal that would get him a high profile feather in his cap. Any lawyer who doesn’t see this aspect of holding this case this long needs to get some real world experience.

    All the evidence in this case has long been in. They had to know they had nothing substantial enough to convict a long time ago. This is pure grandstanding in an attempt to make a case by intimidation where no case actually existed.

  67. 941-Bucs Says:

    He shouldn’t get any punishment from Goodell under right consciousness. They case and charges were dropped making Talib innocent by all accounts and did nothing wrong besides be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    If he keeps his nose clean from this point forward and plays to his talent. We may very well keep him for the long haul. I also feel Schiano is just the kind of hard nosed guy to keep Talib in line

    Nothing but good news coming from the Bay area. I love this!

  68. Greg Says:

    WOW Gee I guess they new what they were doing on draft day by not drafting momo17. Everyone said Barber was done. Everyone said Talib was a hood rat and going to jail without knowing the case. Secondary is looking better and better

  69. Andrew Says:

    as someone else said above just because the case was dismissed does not mean that the guy is innocent. now some will say that also means that the guy is not guilty, but you have to look at the pattern of behavior that he has shown for the 4 years he has been on the team. he always seems to get into trouble thus he has ruined his reputation, which leads me to believe he did use assault with a deadly weapon. Now I have always looked the other way when it comes to Talib’s crap because he is a damn good football player, but when is it time to say enough is enough? I hope he done getting into trouble and sticks around.

  70. BamBamBuc Says:

    Ok… case dismissed. We shouldn’t hold his “not guilty” against him. Nor should it be held against Big Ben, PacMan Jones, OJ Simpson… and so on. Or even Casey Anthony or George Zimmerman for that matter. We all hold some people that have been found “not guilty” in a court of law accountable, even after the verdict. Sometimes it’s just too obvious that a wrong was done and someone “got away with it”. Dismissed doesn’t even mean “not guilty”… just “not enough evidence to continue prosecution”. If this is the case, then OJ Simpson, who went ahead with the trial is more “innocent” than Aqib Talib. Sorry, I don’t want celebrities, pro athletes, OR the guy next door shooting up my neighborhood. I don’t know what happened, but nobody is telling the truth here and it sure would be nice if someone would actually come forward and say what actually happened based on what they saw, heard, etc.

  71. Have A Nice Day Says:

    Well, this is fantastic for Talib as well as the Bucs. If only Talib wouldn’t have missed this would be even better.

  72. Have A Nice Day Says:

    I know the state dropped the charges, but is there still reason to believe a civil suit is in line in the hopes of a payout?

  73. Jacko101 Says:

    @ J lynch stop judging be a fan and not the typical discriminating jury. Great news as a Buc fan

  74. Have A Nice Day Says:

    The Bucs org clearly knew the prosecution had nothing. Hopefully, if he keep his butt clean this year we can resign him. A healthy Talib next to a healthy Wright seems like a nice combo.
    Still getting a CB early next year. lol

  75. BamBamBuc Says:

    I can’t see a civil suit here. Of course, I couldn’t believe there was a civil suit and it was won against OJ when he was supposedly “Not Guilty” in a court of law…. how is it that people found “not guilty” are somehow responsible for a civil suit settlement? Not saying that OJ was “innocent”, but if he’s found not guilty in court, why was he responsible? I just can’t imagine Talib having to go through a civil suit though, especially since there was no injury (other than the pistol whipping) and no one was killed. But in today’s day and age you never know.

  76. raphael Says:

    @passthebuc, He was in trouble in college with failed drug test. He hit his teammate with a helmet while in a fight with another teammate. He beat up a Taxi driver. He most likly shot a gun at somebody running away. Also I did see him at a traffic light and the dude is like trying to stare me down or something…Wish I was wrong but imo the guy is Trouble…We can do better…

  77. Eric Says:

    Greg and Mark played this well. Didn’t panic and cut him or trade him for nothing.

    Well done.

  78. Tim Says:

    Bryan Glazer is a lawyer. That had to help the team keep a cool head about this.

  79. kh Says:

    raphael & andrew – not guilty also doesn’t mean guilty based on his track record.

  80. tommy Says:

    he didnt buy his way out of anything….andrew, how dumb can you be???

  81. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Maybe you had a booger hanging from your nose.

  82. Andrew Says:

    All we can do is hope and pray he stays out of trouble and continues to be good football player. other than that, I trust Schiano will make the right decisions in regards to everything that concerns Aqib Talib as well as the rest of the team.

    Man i cant wait till football season.

  83. Drew Says:

    There was another article today that stated there were 19 witnesses who clearly stated Talib DID NOT, let me repeat DID NOT fire a single shot. There was one SCUMBAG witness (the pedophile) that stated he did. So, where’s the case in all of this? Goodell previously met with Talib and discussed this matter months ago and the outcome was very positive. I for one, am completely tired of a judicial system that grandstands and uses this platform for political gain.

  84. Andrew Says:

    @ Tommy

    I didnt say he bought his way out of anything you dip [email protected] stop putting words in my mouth. All I said was that I am tiered of these athletes and celebrities seemingly getting away with everything they do. Thats it. Weather you want to believe it or not the fact is THEY GET AWAY WITH A LOT. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. DONT MAKE ME START LIST OF HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAPPENS. I may just be bitter but its my opinion and Im free to express it. damn.

  85. raphael Says:

    @hawaiin buc maybe your mom was in the car with me and she had a booger hanging from her nose…

  86. [email protected] Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I thought the case would be settled with a plea deal to a greatly reduced charge.
    I was wrong.
    I have been wrong before, and I will be wrong again.
    I am just glad for Talib that he gets to play for Tampa, vs playing prison football.

  87. FreemanBomb5 Says:

    Yes baby I told you all Talib was a good fair man. Now it was proven that he has been unjustly accused of heinous crimes when in reality he simply defended his poor sister against a known rapist/pedophile who was trying to get paid. Talib>Mo Claiborne

  88. BigMacAttack Says:

    Andrew, don’t hold back.
    Quality Rant.

  89. Andrew Says:

    @ BigMacAttack

    lol Thanks.

  90. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “@hawaiin buc maybe your mom was in the car with me and she had a booger hanging from her nose…”

    Quite possible. I love a good mama joke, well played.

  91. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Andrew Says:
    June 18th, 2012 at 5:15 pm


    I said from day 1 he would get off scott free.


    lol…I would imagine many are going to make this claim, and have it be just as untrue. When it went down only one person took Talibs side in the charges brought against him…me. I know this because EVERYONE jumped my case for it. A few days later, people, including Joe, started changing their tunes.

    Since then, I have made the statement that Talibl would not be with the team on starting day…and I’m holding to that. See, I always felt he was justified in the Texas thing…I just feel it adds to the list of items that should cost him a suspension or a position…and not a measly 4 game suspension.

    I prediced 6-10 games, and a possibility of a year with a review at 10 (like Pacman had).

    So here’s the thing…I’m more concerned with Talib’s future as a person than as a player. I’m not so selfish that I would rather him stay with the team than get a dose of reality to set him on the straight and narrow path.

    Whatever happens, he needs to be made to understand there are consequences for his actions off the field.

    And don’t forget…this time off just before training camp is the period he’s most likely to get in trouble again. Can he stay clean? We’ll see.

  92. Miguel Grande Says:

    Dutcher, you are so full of crap! You were able to make this all about you, and I’ll give you props for that.

  93. bucswin Says:

    Go search the archives with the search words “Talib Jersey” and you’ll see the article about the Buccaneer store that stopped carrying Talib’s jersey. Joe’s comments in the article are interesting since he’s calling out other posters.

  94. Andrew Says:

    @ Pete Dutcher

    I give you props for for saying Talib wont be punished. got to give credit where credit is due. as for as me saying that same thing it was not on this blog but the with the friends i hang out with who also happen to be bucs fans. i should have clarified myself. you see i rarely post my opinions on blogs because feel it wont change anything. however. I enjoy reading ALL of you guys comments as well as the articles joe provides.

  95. admin Says:

    Joe here,

    @BucsWin – Allow Joe to assist you. Here’s the link you want everyone to see.

    Clearly you don’t get Joe’s sense of humor and satire.

  96. Drew Says:


    Joe wasn’t calling out other posters. All he did was offer his opinion based on what was known at that time.

  97. bucswin Says:

    In today’s article, Joe is calling out other posters when in fact, he should be called out himself. Go read the article and his comments in the comments section of that article. Satire? I don’t think so. Look at the beginning of the article where he fails to use the word “allegedly.”

  98. Patrick Says:

    I’m glad we didn’t draft Claiborne after hearing this!

  99. Mark Says:

    PacMan and Rothleisberger did somethings that deserves to be punished. Talib did what everyone who’s not a pu**y would do if someone put hands on there sister, daughter, or mother would do.

  100. Drew Says:

    Had a group of Moonie Males refuse to allow my Sister to leave the commune back in the 70’s. Needless to say I had a bunch of Moon Pie that day. Sisters are sacred.

  101. dan Says:

    drew. i salute you.

  102. Vince Says:

    Seems tongue and cheek to me Mr. Bucswin. #issues

  103. FreemanBomb5 Says:


    You are full of it, I’ve been a huge Talib supporter ever since this incident broke. I personally attacked the credibility of Billings, read the police reports and gave my two cents (all of which were positive towards Talib), and even went as far as calling other posters racists. After reading your long post about being the one and only, your opinion is now irrelevant.

  104. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Yeah, seriously Pete, that is ridiculous for you to claim you are the only one defending him from day one. I did, and many others did as well.

    He’s not getting 6-10 games. I don’t think he gets any, but no way he gets more than 4. If he does and I was him, I would sue the hell out of the NFL. You don’t go from a one game suspension 2 years ago (his only suspension of his career) to a 10 game suspension for doing something were there is actually no proof (just the word of a convicted felon).

    This is not the same as Big Ben’s case. With Ben, there is no disputing the fact that he had sex with the girl in the bathroom of a club. That’s not actually legal to my knowledge. It’s certainly frowned upon (like masturbating in an airplane, thanks a lot Bin Laden). There is no proof Talib did anything wrong in this case. There is nothing to show that he fired the gun. If he didn’t fire the gun, how can you suspend him? What are you suspending him for, being there with his mom? Besides, most people outside of Bucs fans have no clue who Talib is, or that he even had a case against him. He’s no stain on the image of the league, because he’s not a big name. You can say all you want about how that doesn’t or shouldn’t matter, but it does. There’s no public pressure coming down on Goddell to punish him like there is for bigger names. He can completely ignore this case, and no one would even notice.

  105. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    Okay, I stand corrected. I wasn’t the only one. Hawaiian Buc did not pre-judge.

    Miguel Grande, bucswin, and FreemanBomb5 were not even around to comment in either the first or second posted article here…so anything they claim is a lie.

    There were actually a couple others too…I misjudged. You guys determine the liars and speakers of truth:

  106. SilenceTheCritics Says:

    Exactly Hawaiian. People crack me up with comparisons and act like they know what there talking about. Big Ben’s case and Talib’s are to polar opposites. Only thing they have in common is that there was a lack of substanial evidence on both sides. However, sadly, there is no telling what Goodell will do… I’m hoping for no suspension and this type of case doesnt warrant any but we will have to wait and see.

  107. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:

    My comment is being moderated atm, but go to the bottom left of the homepage and search “Talib Charged” and you will see the first few posts on the topic.

    I was mistaken. I was not the only one. Hawaiian Buc reserved judgement. Michael did too. RemyBuc31 did not hold it against Talib.

    Ironically, 3 of my 4 naysayers, Miguel Grande, bucswin, and FreemanBomb5 did not even comment in the first two posts on the topic. So if they make any claims, they’re full of it.

    Hawaiian Buc, I apologize.

  108. ALSTOTTSMART! Says:

    Give him time. He’ll find some more trouble. Some people just can’t avoid it.

  109. BigMacAttack Says:

    … and the Thomas 2.2 award goes to…..

    Pete Dutcher!!!

    Speech! Speech! Speech!

  110. hamilton Says:

    talib is our best def player by far.

  111. Bobby Says:

    This is great news for the defense. Obviously Talib will be on a short leash with Schiano and I’m sure he knows it.

  112. tommy Says:

    @ andrew….strong words from a weak man!!!!

  113. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    It’s all good Pete, thanks.

  114. Andrew Says:

    tommy shut the [email protected] up [email protected] you dont even know me or what iv been through. ill meet you any time any where and kick your mother [email protected] ass and make you eat those words. im dead serious. give me your email address. come on chicken [email protected] email me so we can set this fight up. unless your a [email protected]

  115. Andrew Says:

    my email address is [email protected] ill be waiting [email protected]

  116. The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) Says:


    I don’t think he’ll have the guts to.

  117. BigMacAttack Says:

    I voted for it before I voted against it. Since then I have decided to claim Executive Privilege.