Overtures To Chip Kelly “Lunacy”
January 25th, 2012
Many Bucs fans were dejected Monday morning when they awoke to the news that Oregon football coach Chip Kelly had turned away the overtures of Team Glazer and Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, deciding at the very last moment to stay at Oregon.
This, despite the fact Kelly had already told his athletic director he was leaving and walking away from a reported $6 million a year from Team Glazer on the table.
Count Alan Dell among the group breathing a sigh of relief. Dell, a columnist for the Bradenton Herald, strongly scolded Team Glazer for even thinking of going after Kelly, who Dell believes is a scoundrel.
Dell scoffed, calling the notion of Kelly instilling discipline to the Bucs “lunacy.”
Kelly is a target of an ongoing NCAA investigation that might make Ohio State’s “Tresselgate” seem like stealing a few cookies.
Media reports, most notably from Yahoo Sports, link Kelly to a possible payoff scheme to get top recruits to Oregon.
Yahoo said he authorized a $25,000 payment to a scouting service in what might be a violation of NCAA recruiting rules. Then to cover his tracks, Kelly reportedly requested that service send a scouting report that contained outdated material and included a dead player.
Dell goes on to type that he is of the belief that Kelly used Team Glazer not so much to squeeze Oregon (and, in turn, NIKE honcho and uber Oregon booster Phil Knight) for more cash, but to garner job security, to receive assurances from the school that no matter how hard the school gets hammered by the NCAA, that it will not fire Kelly.
Even if one doesn’t subscribe to Dell’s premises, the column is an interesting read from many angles.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I don’t agree with this article. If this is all true Kelly would be insane to return to Oregon. Facing sanctions doesn’t sound like unfinished business at Oregon that he would want to finish.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
sounds like an episode of the Soprano’s who was the dead guy Johnny Sack. The intergity factor is speaking volumes. another run away bride here.all the retired mob figures seem to head south and live in witness protection. Why not hide in an empty Raymond James Stadium you can hook up with Sammy the Bull and start moving extascy
January 25th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I posted basically the same thing in an earlier thread.
Perhaps Chip Kelly “resigned” only to re sign, knowing he could get away with it.
Washington is extremely active out west, going after players that Would have went to USC, that Oregon has basically been “getting by default”.
If I were a Washington Recruiter, I would spread rumors that Chip Kelly will abandon Oregon soon for the NFL.
By Kelly “accepting” the Tampa head coach position, and then “changing his mind”, it would act to assure his recruiting class that he is dedicated to Oregon.
Plus, it could have given Tampa Fans the Illusion that the Rockstar and the Glazers “left no stone unturned”.
IOW, a marriage of convenience.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
You know its amazing to me that people still think that there are schools actually doing the right things and not doing illegal things, Chip Kelly would have brought an offense here that would have been inovative and exciting, something we saw none of this past year. But at some point we need to move past this and let it go, Mr. dell works for a paper that is barely a paper, cant believe Joe that you would even consider him a source. Just please god NO MIKE SHERMAN, if hes the answer to the question, then we are all asking the wrong question.
January 25th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Ask Tebow’s ribs and lungs how innovative and excited running the spread option in the NFL has been.
I’m all for innovative, aggressive passing, spread offense, etc. – but part of Kelly’s offense is also the current NFL fad of the option.
Take that sh!t home. A couple plays a game, like the wildcat has now become, ok I suppose. Having it be a heavy part of your offense? Well, again, ask Tebow. I don’t know about you, but having our QB pounded play after play is plain dumb.
(I googled a quick article to enlighten those that don’t know.)
http://azstarnet.com/sports/football/professional/nfl/nfl-notebook-tebow-injured-lungs-ribs-chest-in-playoffs/article_5b486400-53c5-5ed1-ba5f-22d293066217.html
January 25th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
bucfanjeff can we please never hear the words tim tebow, it had been like a week and it was trully refreshing
January 25th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
bucfanjeff is severely naive, just like a lot of people when they form an opinion on Chip Kelly. Do you seriously think that Kelly was going to come in here and run a heavy dose of the option with our guys? Seriously? Kelly wasn’t going to bring the option here. Stop it.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
I can see it now; Kelly comes in and has big ole’ Freeman running the option and pitching to big ole’ Blount. Such a perfect fit right? How stupid do you guys think these coaches are? I know Mark Dominik is an idiot and a joke of a GM, but he’s not stupid enough to bring a guy here who’s gonna try to run an option offense with players that couldn’t do it.
January 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Kelly is a target of an ongoing NCAA investigation that might make Ohio State’s “Tresselgate” seem like stealing a few cookies
Burn him at the Stake…Screw Kelly..he’ll get what he deserves..Bitcha
January 25th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
teabagged by the teaparty in the boston massacre
January 25th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
thank u K2.
i saw an interview with him discussing his scheme, i wish i could find it. but basically what it broke down to was him saying if he had power I personnel, thats what he would run. when he was hired at Oregon, they already had very fast players at the skill positions, so he put in a scheme to take advantage of their talents.
simply put….he wouldn’t do what Rich Rodriguez did at Michigan and force players into a system which does not fit their talents. that is the sign of a good coach….finding a way to put your players in the best position to succeed. i am disappointed he didnt come here, because i think he would’ve brought a fresh approach (NOT THE SPREAD OPTION) and generated a bit of excitement. but it is what it is, and i guess it just wasnt meant to be. i will support the next head coach, no matter who is hired. i was skeptical of Raheem Morris, but i supported him until it became abundantly clear that he just wasnt cut out for such a major responsbility at this point in his career. i will do the same with the new hire.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Who cares
January 25th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Whocares he’s not coming!
BTW coaches are stupid enough to force schemes upon teams without the right personel. For just one example, look at our own Raheem and the Jim Bates fiasco!
January 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
yea u guys are right, nobody should care lol its all a moot point. im just saying everyone gets so worked up about schemes and fits, when a good coach will adapt to his players strengths.
and believe me….i am NOT saying that all coaches are smart enough to recognize this. exactly like OAR said, the Jim Bates attempt and whatever the hell u wanna classify what Raheem was trying to do lol….perfect examples of coaches thinking they can get anyone to play their style, rather than adapting.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I would rather have Kelly or Tressel over Sherman.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Heard Mark Schelereth on 1040 talking to Krasniqui , and he said for Buc fans to be glad Kelly didn’t come to Tampa . He said his offense would not work in the NFL and he hated watching it on TV . Don’t know about any sanctions Oregon may have coming but don’t think Kelly is Bucs answer .
January 25th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
@K2theSoldier, since you can predict the future, play the lottery this week…oh and tell us who the next coach will be.
I’m not naive, naive would be to think he wouldn’t run it.
January 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Kelly was not going to come here and run the option…hence, he decided not to come because that’s all he knows.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
Colts just hired Pagano from Ravens. We’re still in limbo
January 25th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I have a feeling we will know shortly. Maybe even in a few hours.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Great. We are the only team left with out a Hc and we were one of the first to start searching. Lol last as usual as we will be last in our division next year because of the 3 stooges and Dummynick. Smh this sucks and we probably wont hire a coach till friday or next Monday because they all take weekends.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Anybody see what Charlie Campbell wrote for Walter Football?
Bascially, the Glazers have had a total of 6 or 7 coaches turn them down already.
Reasoning behind it is bc of severence packages…..
What a joke!
Campbell goes on to state that some of the Bucs Asst Coaches are paid less then some top college assistants.
January 25th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Joe is your website trying to tell me not to post anymore? or should I change my screen name? Most of my comments won’t even go through anymore. is it me???
January 25th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Billick HC
Del Rio DC (before he ends up in Denver)
January 25th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I used to stick up for this front office but this is just ridiculous! Why is this taking them so long? And why are they just interviewing sherms today? This is just mind boggling.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@jdog,
The Glazers are trying to cut severnce packaged from negotiations with potential HC’s.
We need new owners NOW!
Papa Glazer is rolling over in his grave right now, bc these 3 knuckle head “suzy’s” can’t run a GD football team.
Sell the team to Mark Cuban, now!
January 25th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@jdog
Because nobody wants the job. It’s literaly that plain and simple, and I don’t think it has anything to do with the roster, it’s who they’d have to work with(for).
January 25th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Exactly, cut the snake off at the head.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
@ stevek don’t you mean circumsize the rabbi who’s shafting the fans they should start passing out astroglide at home games they are reaming the fans
January 25th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
good thing they gathered all that information.
really helping.
January 25th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
They must be doing some intense brainstorming wherever they are.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
might be in a bidding war with austin peay over shermans services.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Well, who called who? If the Bucs reached out to Kelly first, then Dells article is a waste.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
THink we will know by 9pm tonight
January 25th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Fox 13 Chip Carter said the name Trestman (sp?) is now floating as a possible for next HC. As for where they got the scoop I don’t know.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
We might be the WORST franchise in the NFL.
Think about it, our owner’s and GM are a laughable group.
What the heck is going on?
January 25th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Marc Trestman would be great. He won 2 grey cups back to back as a coach in the CFL and he was a good QB coach both in college and the NFL. He was a former Bucs QB coach in the 80’s. I think he would be good for the Bucs and especially for Freeman. The Colts were looking at him too. Sign Him.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
WTF. We get the leftovers for our coaching staff. Looks like DelRio to Denver. Indy needs a new DC also. Irsay will get that done. And here we are still with nothing. Its not looking good. I hope to God the Glazers pull something out of there tight asses that nobody sees. Mariucci? IDFK. What a f***ing joke.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Ya, I think Trestman might be the guy that nobody’s talking about and he is an offensive coach that the Glazers are looking for. He has HC and NFL expierience. And has been successful pretty much everywhere hes been. Might just work out here.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Good read here on Trestman;
http://www.coachmarctrestman.com/
January 25th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Plus his name fits … Mike Z. Mike S. Marty S. Marc T.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Chip said it again @ 6:20pm news cast. Also said his name IS in the loop. Guess if anything Joe will find out.
January 25th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Personally, I’m waiting to see how things actually workout before I express any judgement on the organization. They could surprise everyone and pull a rabbit out of their hats.
I’m determined to NOT let the media control my emotions at this point. They have consistently lied or been wrong.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
@ CC
WOW…that Trestman website is great…had no idea of the background….I WANT THIS GUY !!!!!!
January 25th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Would not mind trestman at all. He’s a great offensive mind and is also very intelligent. A lot of qb prospects work out with him pre draft and collect wisdom.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
strongly endorsed by chucky. good enough for me.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
I would think the 3 stooges were brainstorming too, but that would take brains, which appear to be in short supply at OBP.
I want Chucky back. He is probably the best man for the job, and no way they’ll hire Bisaccia or Marinelli.
My guess is by Friday they will make a splash announcement that Mark Dominick will coach the team and play GM. Josh Freeman will be the on field offensive coordinator and Quincy “Missedtackle” Black will be the on field offensive coordinator for the other team each week. And Ronde will be flabbergasted this time.
January 25th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Is this like the biggest joke in the NFL right now or what?
January 25th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
@ Joe
………..you alive ?????
January 26th, 2012 at 8:37 am
What really pisses me off is that the Bucs really did offer Chip Kelly a contract.
Chip Kelly = Steve Spurrier
Remember how well Spurrier’s College Coaching Success transferred into the NFL?
While Chip Kelly was the “Splash Name” that some were hoping for, it was the wrong name.
I’d take a re-tread over his style.
Still plenty of Quality options out there…
But time is running out.
Need to do something in the next couple of weeks.
January 30th, 2012 at 8:20 am
The op ed piece was full of distortions and half truths. There has not even been a “wild guess” about improper benefits to players, let alone any serious accusations or evidence. After feeling scorned by UO, Lyles threw them under the bus telling Yahoo he “thought” UO might have been paying him for his influence. Though even he admits there was never any requests made for him to use improper influence, no quid pro quo agreement for his influence and he did nothing to influence players to choose UO or any other school. All of the players involved, including those who are no longer associated with Oregon, deny Lyles did anything to influence what school they chose. Kelly has not commented because NCAA specifically prohibit him from doing so… Yeah sure, all that makes tOSU players receiving tens of thousands of $$$ in improper benefits and their HC covering up the fact he had specific knowledge of it going on and lying to the NCAA seem like “stealing a few cookies”. What a tool…