“Trust Lovie” Doesn’t Apply At Guard

August 26th, 2014

LovieJagsRichie Incognito is being scouted and probed right now by the Bucs, and if signed, legions of Tampa Bay fans will feel at peace, assuming Incognito doesn’t reside on their street.

But why?

Lovie Smith and Jason Licht and their scouting team studied the guard position this offseason and determined that the best fits for Tampa Bay were Jamon Meredith and Oneil Cousins (prized unrestricted free agent signings) wounded Carl Nicks, fifth-round rookie Kadeem Edwards, plus no-NFL-snap candidates Jace Daniels and Patrick Omameh.

After one preseason game, Lovie announced Meredith was ousted from his starting job and would focus on the tackle position.

Keep in the mind the Bucs booted decent guard/center Jeremy Zuttah, waved goodbye to Ted Larsen, who happened to get hired in Arizona by Licht’s old bosses, (Larsen started the Cardinals third preseason game at left guard.) and Davin Joseph will make the Rams and has impressed his new team.

Joe points this out because it seems legions of Bucs fans are pounding their chests saying “Trust Lovie. Sign Incognito.” Sorry, but Joe doesn’t trust Lovie when it comes to offensive lines. Defense? Absolutely. But not O-line, which was a huge weakness for Lovie in Chicago, and he hasn’t proven he knows how to improve in that area.

Joe’s poll of Bucs fans yesterday revealed about 80 percent are aching for Incognito. But why exactly is sleazy Incognito a sure bet to get off his couch at 31 years old and start playing good football under the added pressure of playing under a microscope from new teammates?

Is Joe or any fan supposed to bow down and believe the Bucs have solved their guard scouting woes? Even the offensive line coach, George Warhop, was in on the mess after he clearly endorsed bringing Cousins with him from Cleveland.

Joe’s not without hope, though. Perhaps newcomer Rishaw Johnson was a steal?

Joe remains stunned that so many fans faithfully believe Incognito, if signed by Lovie, will represent the right football move.

58 Responses to ““Trust Lovie” Doesn’t Apply At Guard”

  1. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Just Win BABY!!!

  2. Tom Edrington Says:

    The question you have to ask is how much time would they have to evaluate him even if they did sign him?

    He wouldn’t play in preseason, no time to get in shape…..that would be a concern…..what’s the learning curve for the offense? Another concern….

    A lot of concerns there.

  3. Zam Says:

    They blew it in the offseason by getting rid of those three guys. I think every fan was wondering when they’d finish their restructure of the o-line, and then was stunned that they thought they were done.

    Now L&L look to whore themselves by flirting with a turd.

  4. Chef Paul Says:

    Man, you media types have temper tantrums when you cant sway public opinion.

    Tell us again how stupid we are. That never gets old.

  5. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    I am part of the minority who thinks we should avoid Richie Scumbagnito. I can’t believe anyone in Tampa could possibly want MORE drama after what fans have had to endure over the past few years. Sure, the o-line has issues, but nothing compared to the negative media attention that would surely follow this guy.

  6. lightningbuc Says:

    assuming Incognito doesn’t reside on their street.

    _________________

    I’d rather have Incognito as a neighbor than Mike Williams.

  7. biff barker Says:

    Can’t have it both ways Joe. First the seemingly endless consternation about the OG quandary, more of the same regarding the potential fix.

    What both ways? Joe was all but pounding on a table for the Bucs to select a guard higher in the draft, begging for the regime not to bank on Carl Nicks, perplexed immediately by the trade of Zuttah. If Joe believed Incognito was a “fix,” then Joe would be excited about a potential signing. –Joe

  8. Darrell Long Says:

    Hey Joe,

    I think most fans are just in a position where they didn’t really understand how bad the guard play was in training camp. Now after seeing the preseason games and watching defenses just whoopin our butts are the fans starting to freak out.

    Freaking out now when its so late in the game and there really isn’t a lot out there. Boone is a long shot at best and it seems like the feeling is anything is better than what we have at this point.

    I hear your concerns about him but i think our team has the leadership to make sure it isn’t a problem moving forward plus i am sure richie has learned some life lessons at this point and eaten a big piece of humble pie.

    BTW other players have done far worse (vick and rice)

    Just my opinion :)

    Darrell

  9. flmike Says:

    As long as Lovie is the HC the o-line will be our Achilles heel…he truly has no idea how important the position is to winning in today’s NFL, this isn’t 2003 it’s 2014, offense wins the season, defense wins the Super Bowl, but you have to get there first….

  10. BucsfaninChina Says:

    Keep on groping for them clicks, Joe! Why worry about integrity when you can just repeat the same story over and over?

    Integrity is meaning what you say or write. Joe has integrity. Joe doesn’t “grope for clicks.” If he did, this site would look a lot different.–Joe

  11. Joseph Mamma Says:

    My only hope is that Lovie has no say whatsoever on our O-line and it’s players, schemes, or anything. Terrible track record building or sustaining them.

  12. Lynch Says:

    I think Lovie and Licht had a strong feeling Nicks was coming back. However, when the settlement went through it forced the cluster we now with Cousins and Mereidth

  13. stratobuc Says:

    Amen, BucsfaninChina. This is starting to look like a certain local radio loudmouth who regularly spouts junk to stimulate calls.

  14. DallasBuc Says:

    Mediocre QB, mediocre (at best) oline and it is all part of the well constructed “plan” by do-no-wrong Lovie and his egotistical lapdog rookie GM! Even starting to hear defensive players come out endorsing Incognito because they know how broken this oline is! What a debacle and self-inflicted injury by HC/GM.

  15. buc4lyfe Says:

    I think it would hilarious if our o line was so bad he’s better than what we have that he started and the line is still awful

  16. Razor123 Says:

    I knew this would happen, the guy comes in for a visit and the media is lining up to let anyone who doesn’t agree with their “conventional wisdom” that they are small minded bigots, racists or homophobes.

    Sir, what the hell are you talking about. This post is about scouting. –Joe

    Make no mistakes Bucs fans,that’s where all this is leading. I’m a little surprised by the Joe’s reaction I thought they might be a little more open minded unlike the columnists and so called morning talk show hosts( or more correctly self appointed moral compasses).

    Joe’s very open-minded. Joe opened his mind, studied Incognito, and isn’t interested. –Joe

    Even if Inconito IS a bigger scumbag than Chaz Manson I’m willing to bet the character of McCoy, Jackson, Mckown and David would soon having him see the light and row in the right direction. I don’t really care if they take him or not,it would be stupid not to if he can help, but I’m sick of being preached at and told what I should think and what I should feel.

    Nobody here is telling you what to feel or think. –Joe

  17. Seattle Buc Says:

    I dont know how cheap he will be. Would hate to throw money at the dude if he’s gonna suck on the field and be a dick. Maybe they’ll put a douche clause in his contract which will void any obligation if he acts up. Otherwise Im withholding judgement and supporting him and the Bucs. Just win.

  18. Ole Bill Says:

    You’re getting pretty ridiculous with this whole thing, I don’t like the guy either but at the end of the day if he makes the bucs better I’m all for it. Keep in mind his Miami teammates loved him…except for Martin…

    And you probably believe all his potential Bucs teammates are really eager to embrace him right now, too. –Joe

  19. Posey99 Says:

    Johnny football is a way better citizen than incognito? Joe, you’re approaching hypocritical status now.

  20. MegaDaveUK Says:

    Unless it’s a 500k base salary with $1 incentive I don’t want this. I’d rather have a terrible year offensively, an offensive Offensive year and go get us a beastly OL or 3 come draft time. The defense will keep us in enough games xD
    Joe – was it hard not to shout “NOOOOOOOOOO” every time Incognito’s name was mentioned at the press conference?

  21. okie dokie Says:

    so what is the solution Joe? You want to start the season with 66 starting at guard? I haven’t seen many guards on the waiver wire. iggy is too crazy for the bucs, got it! What would Jose do?

    The Bucs’ just beat a good defense on the road, starters vs. starters, 24-0, in the first half. Joe was hardly panicking. –Joe

  22. dennis lothamer Says:

    he who is without sin cast the first stone

  23. Warrior Says:

    What they have done to the OFFENSIVE line is what has me worried. I saw what Schiano did in not resigning Michael Bennett last year. This regime has made the same mistake with the O-Line this year. They need to consult with me before making any more decisions…

  24. PanhandleBucGuy28 Says:

    JUST WIN BABY!!!!! Joe is blowing this waaaaay out proportion. It def has got the traffic up though! Nice strategy Joes!!

    Joe’s only strategy is to write about what he finds interesting in the world of the Bucs. Same strategy since 2008.–Joe

  25. DB55 Says:

    so what is the solution Joe? You want to start the season with 66 starting at guard? I haven’t seen many guards on the waiver wire. iggy is too crazy for the bucs, got it! What would Jose do?

  26. Yeah It's me! Says:

    You really think Joe that Lovie decides and makes all the decisions on who plays on the Oline? Your sure he doesn’t leave that decision to his Oline coach & offensive coach’s, Really? He didn’t have great Oline’s in Chicago so that’s all Lovie’s fault? He didn’t rely on his coaching staff to make those decisions?

  27. DB55 Says:

    Joe you also saw Martin creating his own holes and making tacklers miss. No help from the oline as shown when rainey carried the ball. You want Martin to carry the offense, which he did against the Bills and then you want to sit him over a rookie who could even make it to week 1. Good luck trying to run or throw behind that line. They don’t even know how to pick up a blitz. Let get real folks.

  28. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahIt’sMe- Lovie hired all of his coaches and essentially his GM too. Do-no-wrong Lovie and his lapdog GM are the final word on what players are on this roster. So yeah, it is Lovie’s fault. He’s the head coach!!!! Not complicated

  29. dick2111 Says:

    @okie dokie Says: “I haven’t seen many guards on the waiver wire.”

    True, but teams haven’t really done the hard cutting yet. Cutting the first 15 (from 90 to 75) is surely a lot easier than cutting the next 22 (75 to 53). Besides, I’m sure this next cut is where we’ll find several high-priced veteran offensive linemen with guard potential who were beaten out by inexpensive, high-draft rookies. Teams don’t seem to want to pay big bucks for backups.

    Then there’s always trades, and we’ve got some trade potential.

    Not ideal to bring in new potential starters after preseason is over, but better than shooting ourselves in the foot long-term.

  30. DWE Says:

    I voted no. We had MRSA in the locker room last year and why invite the infection back? Incognito is not the second coming and mean and nasty has nothing to do with. He is a complete jerk, an ass and about as smart as a door knob. I was sick about the moves Lovie made on the O line, but not enough to force this scum on our locker room.

  31. Yeah It's me! Says:

    Zuttah is a Center. The Bucs got a better Center in EDS. The Bucs made Zuttah play G for a long time but he wanted to play center. That’s probably why they traded him after getting EDS because he didn’t want to go back to Guard and the Bucs didn’t force him to play G for them.

  32. Orca Says:

    Some fans seem to think that because it’s football, character and basic decency to other human being doesn’t matter. They think they’re hard or tough. They like to call Jonathan Martin weak minded or a pu$$y. They think it’s manly to treat people like trash. They think that all of this controversy is about political correctness. They’re excuse makers. They’re crusty bitter old men, or ignorant rednecks. Basically, they’re a$$holes.

  33. jo_mama Says:

    Joe, WDAE and the other Sports Radio Shows are just Flat out Wrong.

    First of all, Since Richie Incognito has been in the NFL, He has Never Been Arrested for a Crime. Let me Repeat this. Since Richie Incognito has been in the NFL he has never been arrested for a Crime.

    There have been more Radio Hosts at WDAE who have been arrested than Richie Incognito.

    There have been 525 NFL Players who have been arrested since 2005, the year Incognito entered the league. (Curiosity of UT San Diego NFL Data Base). Richie Incognito is not one of them.

    The video of Incognito at the Bar with his shirt off is less offensive than Mike Evans Committing assault on a police officer and attacking people in Miami.

    The idea that Incognito needs a second chance is laughable. He has done nothing wrong to indicate he is even on his second chance – No Freaken Arrests.

    Josh Brent is looking to come back to the league and Donte Stallworth is still playing both having killed people.

    List of all the People Arrested Since Incognito has been in the NFL. No Incognito

    Name
    Justin Blackmon
    Jo-Lonn Dunbar

    Keelan Johnson
    Jimmy Smith
    Josh Gordon
    John Abraham
    Cornelius Washington
    Sean Smith
    Marcell Dareus
    Lorenzo Taliaferro
    T.J. Ward
    Greg Hardy
    Marcell Dareus
    Josh Morgan
    Tandon Doss
    Aldon Smith
    Orson Charles
    Greg Reid
    Chris Culliver
    Adewale Ojomo
    Jah Reid
    Deonte Thompson
    Fred Davis
    Roddy White
    Ray Rice
    Daniel Kilgore
    Davone Bess
    Akeem Spence
    Spencer Ware
    Michael Hill
    Erin Henderson
    Thomas Keiser
    Henry Melton
    Will Hill
    A.J. Jefferson
    Erin Henderson
    Jason Snelling
    Dwayne Bowe
    Jerome Simpson
    D.C. Jefferson
    Jay Ratliff
    Aldon Smith
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Aldon Smith
    John Boyett
    Julius Thomas
    Nigel Bradham
    Von Miller
    Joe McKnight
    Eric Wright
    Alfonzo Dennard
    Dan Connor
    Joe Lefeged
    Aaron Hernandez
    Ausar Walcott
    Jason Peters
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Evan Rodriguez
    Cody Grimm
    Joe Morgan
    Quentin Saulsberry
    Michael Goodson
    Daryl Washington
    Armonty Bryant
    Claude Davis
    Cliff Harris
    Rolando McClain
    Ronnell Lewis
    William Moore
    Quentin Groves
    Amari Spievey
    Brandon Barden
    Trumaine Johnson
    Evan Rodriguez
    Cody Grimm
    Quinton Carter
    Javarris James

    J’Marcus Webb
    Desmond Bryant
    Brandon Barden
    Al Netter
    Da’Quan Bowers
    Michael Boley
    Leroy Hill
    Jay Ratliff
    Andre Smith
    Chris Rainey
    Rolando McClain
    Robert Sands
    Josh Brent
    Demarcus Dobbs
    Jonathon Amaya
    Bryan Thomas
    Ahmad Black
    Alameda Ta’amu
    John Abraham
    Michael Turner
    Chad Johnson
    Aaron Berry
    Kenny Britt
    Donald Washington
    Dez Bryant
    Marshawn Lynch
    Elvis Dumervil
    Odrick Ray
    Robert Quinn
    Dion Lewis
    Adrian Peterson
    Eric Wright
    Kiante Tripp
    Aaron Berry
    David Diehl
    Justin Blackmon
    Jerome Felton
    Nick Fairley
    Caleb King
    Brandon Meriweather
    Alfonzo Dennard
    Darrius Heyward-Bey
    Nick Fairley
    Koa Misi
    Samson Satele
    Mikel Leshoure
    Jarriel King
    Leroy HIll
    Nate Collins
    Mikel Leshoure
    J.T. Thomas
    Rey Maualuga
    Ray McDonald
    Knowshon Moreno
    Aldon Smith
    Johnny Culbreath
    Jerome Simpson
    Benny Sapp
    Sam Hurd
    Rolando McClain
    Erik Walden
    Lawrence Wilson
    Julian Edelman
    Chris Cook
    Ryan McBean
    Johnny Jolly
    Tyrell Johnson
    Kevin Ogletree
    Rhett Bomar
    Matt Prater
    Paul Hubbard
    Cedric Benson
    Jerry Hughes
    Marvin White
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Hines Ward
    Kenny Britt
    Akeem Jordan
    Corey Williams
    Brandon Underwood
    Raheem Brock
    Javarris James
    Kenny Britt
    Garrett Wolfe
    Alex Magee
    Antwan Applewhite
    Albert Haynesworth
    William Moore
    Kenny Britt
    Mike Vrabel
    Louis Murphy
    Aqib Talib
    Jason Peters
    Johnny Jolly
    Bryan McCann
    Mario Henderson
    Chris Cook
    King Dunlap
    Michael Bush
    Legedu Naanee
    Kenny Britt
    Albert Haynesworth
    Everson Griffen
    Everson Griffen
    Laurence Maroney
    Joe Joseph
    Sergio Kindle
    Kevin Alexander
    Geno Hayes
    Perrish Cox
    Will Smith
    Mike Williams
    Raheem Brock
    D.J. Williams
    Elvis Dumervil
    Jerramy Stevens
    Pat McAfee
    Dwayne Jarrett
    Bret Lockett
    Braylon Edwards
    Fili Moala
    John Gill
    Gerard Lawson
    Fred Davis
    Kenny Britt
    Jerome Murphy
    Quinton Ganther
    Chris Simms
    Robaire Smith
    Cedric Benson
    Derrick Morgan
    Vince Young
    Ray McDonald
    Brandon Underwood
    Phillip Merling
    Kevin Ellison
    Harry Coleman
    Mario Urrutia
    Ronald Fields
    Fred Davis
    Maurice Purify
    Chris Jennings
    Leroy Hill
    Fred Davis
    Shaun Rogers
    Joey Porter
    Ronnie Brown
    Spencer Havner
    Will Allen
    Byron Westbrook
    Tony McDaniel
    Deon Anderson
    Michael Richardson
    Rey Maualuga
    Chad Rinehart
    Vincent Jackson
    Kenny Britt
    Jermaine Phillips
    Taj Smith
    Bobby McCray
    Jonathan Babineaux
    Jon Beason
    Eric Weems
    Marcus Johnson
    Braylon Edwards
    Jeff Reed
    Matt Spaeth
    Lance Louis
    Will Billingsley
    Richard Quinn
    Shawne Merriman
    Usama Young
    Cedric Griffin
    Tony Fein
    Chris Davis
    Aqib Talib
    Juqua Parker
    Vonta Leach
    Owen Schmitt
    Quinn Ojinnaka
    Randy Starks
    Corey McIntyre
    Anthony Mix
    Biren Ealy
    Kolomona Kapanui
    Shaun Phillips
    Donte Whitner
    Leon Hall
    Donte Stallworth
    Cornell Green
    David Macklin
    Albert Haynesworth
    Matt Jones
    Brandon Marshall
    Reggie Williams
    Jeff Reed
    Gerald Sensabaugh
    Marshawn Lynch
    Darrell Reid
    Michael Merritt
    Roderick Green
    Jamal Williams
    Leroy Hill
    Jonathan Vilma
    Anthony Spencer
    Vincent Jackson
    Ko Simpson
    Gary Stills
    Travarous Bain
    Jeremy Bridges
    Plaxico Burress
    Shaun Ellis
    Kareem McKenzie
    Larry Johnson
    Santonio Holmes
    Matt McCoy
    Danny Ware
    Lawyer Milloy
    Tommy Kelly
    Ed Johnson
    Ricardo Colclough
    Fred Taylor
    Jameel Cook
    Donte Nicholson
    Matt Jones
    Johnny Jolly
    Willie Andrews
    Derrick Martin
    Jevon Kearse
    Geoffrey Pope
    J.J. Arrington
    Ahmad Bradshaw
    Daren Stone
    Brandon Jones
    Cedric Benson
    Marshawn Lynch
    Gerald Sensabaugh
    Charles Grant
    Lofa Tatupu
    Cedric Benson
    Michael Boley
    Ahmad Brooks
    Nick Kaczur
    Kalvin Pearson
    Kenton Keith
    Rocky Bernard
    Donald Strickland
    Reagan Mauia
    Kenny Wright
    Chris Henry
    Cedrick Wilson
    Jacoby Jones
    LenDale White
    Dwayne Jarrett
    James Harrison
    Brandon Marshall
    Kenny Wright
    Marcus Thomas
    Kevin Faulk
    Bryant McKinnie
    Larry Johnson
    Fabian Washington
    Andre Hall
    Jerome Mathis
    Roscoe Parrish
    Mike Patterson
    Antonio Pierce
    Willie Andrews
    Adrian Awasom
    Matt Roth
    Brent Hawkins
    Daniel Graham
    Gerome Sapp
    Stockar McDougle
    Darrion Scott
    Dwight Smith
    Todd Sauerbrun
    Darrell Hackney
    Chester Pitts
    Cato June
    Justin Durant
    Richard Collier
    Claude Terrell
    Brandon Marshall
    Kili Lefotu
    Najeh Davenport
    Khalif Barnes
    Leigh Bodden
    Lance Briggs
    David Boston
    Anthony Hargrove
    Jeremy Bridges
    Michael Vick
    Chris Chambers
    Bryant McNeal
    Anthony Waters
    Kelly Campbell
    Claude Wroten Jr.
    Fred Evans
    Terry “Tank” Johnson
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Nick Barnett
    Quincy Wilson
    Mike Mason
    Jimmy Williams
    David Kircus
    Justin Miller
    A.J. Nicholson
    Richard Seigler
    Steve McNair
    Ahmad Carroll
    Ronyell Whitaker
    Cedric Griffin
    Anthony Davis
    Darrell Reid
    Brandon Marshall
    D’Anthony Batiste
    Chris Henry
    E.J. Kuale
    Gerald Sensabaugh
    Joey Porter
    Jerramy Stevens
    Charles Sharon
    Deshea Townsend
    Dominique Byrd
    Michael Vick
    Dominic Rhodes
    Jonathan Babineaux
    Fred Evans
    Johnathan Joseph
    Ryan Krause
    DeDe Dorsey
    Ross Verba
    Travis Taylor
    Terrence Kiel
    Terry “Tank” Johnson
    Deltha O’Neal
    Dominique Byrd
    Reggie McNeal
    Cletis Gordon
    Adrian Jones
    Antonio Bryant
    Fred Weary
    Marcus Coleman
    Khalif Barnes
    Donte Whitner
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Robert Reynolds
    Bobby McCray
    Markus Curry
    Kenoy Kennedy
    B.J. Sams
    Sam Brandon
    Jared Allen
    Terrence Kiel
    Odell Thurman
    Steve Foley
    Brian Williams
    Dwight Smith
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Koren Robinson
    Randy Starks
    Barrett Brooks

    Eric Steinbach
    John Gilmore
    Matthias Askew
    Johnathan Sullivan
    Cortland Finnegan
    Jammal Brown
    Frostee Rucker
    Jabar Gaffney
    Santonio Holmes
    Chris Henry
    Cato June
    Vincent Jackson
    A.J. Nicholson
    Chris Henry
    Santonio Holmes
    Cory Rodgers
    Karl Paymah
    Ataveus Cash
    Keith Traylor
    Wayne Hunter
    Albert Haynesworth
    Vincent Burns
    Reuben Droughns
    Jared Allen
    Ricky Manning Jr
    Steve Foley
    Shaun Phillips
    Bryce Fisher
    Dhani Jones
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Trai Essex
    Ahmad Carroll
    Damion McIntosh
    Terry “Tank” Johnson
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Chris Henry
    Greg Wesley
    Sean Locklear
    Reggie Williams
    Terry Glenn
    Daunte Culpepper
    Bryant McKinnie
    Fred Smoot
    Moe Williams
    Chris Henry
    Lionel Dalton
    Fakhir Brown
    Reuben Droughns
    Derreck Robinson
    Courtney Watson
    Marcus Johnson
    Bryant McKinnie
    D.J. Williams
    Torrie Cox
    Larry Johnson
    Kevin Williams
    Lawrence Tynes
    B.J. Sams
    Junior Siavii
    Greg Wesley
    Rod Coleman
    Adam “Pacman” Jones
    Randy McMichael
    Sam Brandon
    David Kircus
    Quintin Williams
    Terry “Tank” Johnson
    Sean Taylor
    Nick Harper
    Mike Doss
    Kalimba Edwards
    Kellen Winslow Jr.
    Tyrone Calico
    Koren Robinson
    Ahman Green
    Tommy Hendricks
    Brad Hopkins
    Larry Ned
    Dwight Smith
    Kelly Campbell
    Tank Williams
    Samari Rolle
    Frank Walker
    David Terrell
    Willie Middlebrooks

  34. Red86 Says:

    Chef Paul Says:
    August 26th, 2014 at 9:14 am
    “Man, you media types have temper tantrums when you cant sway public opinion.

    Tell us again how stupid we are. That never gets old.”

    I agree. Incognito is worth the look. Not like our O line is great right now.

  35. Hank Says:

    Joe, this is getting borderline obsessive. Honestly how is what Richie did any different then what Sapp use to do to Chidi? Only difference is Chidi atleast stood up for himself and fought instead of being a puss, quiting & going to the media. There should be no question of weather or not he is an upgrade on our current OG situation and if you listen the comments coming from players, especially McCoy & Dotson I really dont think there would be an issue in the loccer room. If Im wrong and he does cause a problem, then Im sure he will quickly be shown the door.

    You might want to look more into Incognito’s background. –Joe

  36. Yeah It's me! Says:

    Dallasbuc – Obviously you got a problem with Lovie since you say the same crap about him everyday. We get it. Your not happy. But your an ass to menton it everyday Do you really think the 99%of fans who like Lovie really care that you don’t? LOL . All leaders trust in there staff, just cause you got a problem with Lovie doesn’t mean he cant have a great Oline eventually. GO LOVIE!!! GO BUCS!!!

  37. jo_mama Says:

    Joe, WDAE and the other Sports Radio Shows are just Flat out Wrong.

    First of all, Since Richie Incognito has been in the NFL, He has Never Been Arrested for a Crime. Let me Repeat this. Since Richie Incognito has been in the NFL he has never been arrested for a Crime.

    There have been more Radio Hosts at WDAE who have been arrested than Richie Incognito.

    There have been 525 NFL Players who have been arrested since 2005, the year Incognito entered the league. (Curiosity of UT San Diego NFL Data Base). Richie Incognito is not one of them.

    The video of Incognito at the Bar with his shirt off is less offensive than Mike Evans Committing assault on a police officer and attacking people in Miami.

    The idea that Incognito needs a second chance is laughable. He has done nothing wrong to indicate he is even on his second chance – No Freaken Arrests.

    Josh Brent is looking to come back to the league and Donte Stallworth is still playing both having killed people.

    List of all the People Arrested Since Incognito has been in the NFL. No Incognito

    (I listed all 500 Names of the players arrested but it would not post).

  38. Buccfan37 Says:

    The Bucs fans just want a winning team now. Somebody will sign Incognito eventually. I don’t think he would blow up this team regardless of his shenanigans. Is the opposition because he is a white guy, while the rest of the team is black besides the QB? What does a white guy have to do to get a job in today’s NFL? The NFL must stand for the Negro Football League. Those in favor of bringing in Incognito outnumber those opposing 100 to 1.

  39. Louis Friend Says:

    I strongly doubt they’re going to sign him. They read the news as much as we do. Knowing the firestorm a simple visit has kicked up – I think they’re going to defer to the current talent and scan the waiver wire this weekend for some depth. They’re going to be some interesting names that get cut – and – if worst comes to worst we can always dangle a draft pick for a guy (like Rishaw) who could be an upgrade.

    This is the Bucs leaving no stone unturned, recognizing their weaknesses. Is it too late? Are they screwed to play this season with a QB one missed block away from the concussion list? We’re all going to have to wait and see.

  40. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahItsMe- are you telling us that EDS is a better center than Zuttah? By that you are also saying that do-no-wrong Lovie and his rookie lapdog GM know more about offensive linemen than the Bmore front office and coaching staff! That’s hilarious!!!

  41. Louis Friend Says:

    @Bucfan37 – WTF? Seriously?

  42. Yeah It's me! Says:

    Orca – I was going to set you straight but I don’t think you could handle even being bullied with words. Maybe you should find a good badminton team to root for. LOL!! The Morality police want a perfect football team or nothing. You cant control the whole world or the Bucs Locker room. 80% of Bucs fans want to see if Incognito has grown as a person and can help this team WIN. And Lovie feels the same way. Holier than thou ?

  43. Red86 Says:

    Orca: I’m not saying the things Incognito said and did was right. But, Martin could have stop this by standing up from himself. It’s called self love and self respect. Or pride or confidence. He didn’t set his boundaries and even played like it was ok for a while. If someone offends you, then say so. You’re not obligated to take the abuse. A simple private conversation could have fixed this. If Incognito was warned and kept it up, then feel free to have a confrontation or just avoid them. Martin still hung out with Incognito through out these “abuse.” Martin has options and not totally innocent here. The only time Martin and Incognito should have seen each other was just at the team building. Not at his house and other event.

  44. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahItsMe- I don’t have a problem with Lovie. In fact, I predicted that we would gifted him last year after we were embarrassed on national television by the panthers en route to 0-8. My “do-no-wrong Lovie” bit is an indictment on the media and mostly the fan base. You prove it! What I do have a problem with is some of the very questionable decisions he and his new GM have made, like dumping the existing and very serviceable oline and replacing it with this crap stick we have now! As a fan it is my right to criticize any aspect of my team that I choose. Got a problem with that?

  45. DallasBuc Says:

    …go after, not “gifted”…

  46. Yeah It's me! Says:

    No I don’t have to tell you that EDS is better. The NFL knows he’s better. EDS was wanted by many teams including the great Green Bay Packers. Zuttah was traded for a 5th rd pck next year. If Zuttah was so great why wasn’t there a stamped by NFL teams to get him? And for a higher draft pick? And even for a pick in 2014 not 2015? Stop trying to think your some kind of GM. Your not. Your just a poster on a Bucs blog. LOL!!! Nothing more.

  47. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahItsMe- if a team wants you, they keep you. Packers wanted him so bad they let him walk! Just because our lapdog rookie GM got a late round pick for a starting center says more about him and ability to do his job well than it does the player. After all, Zuttah is starting for the Ravens and all they had to do was give up a late round pick. There is a concensus out there at this point getting rid of Zuttah was a mistake. Only people not admitting it are the rook GM and smart guys like you!

  48. Yeah It's me! Says:

    You don’t have a problem with Lovie? ok. Im sorry.You whiners got to get your daily fix.

  49. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahItsMe- okay I’m just a whiner because your HC can clearly do no wrong. I get it now!

  50. rich Says:

    Either joe loves the player or hates the player..no in between. Never seen so much love for johnny football, and so much hate for Richie incognito. Every post is about richie and its all negative. ? If the players accept him and he can help us, why post all day negative stories. If we start out 0-5 you will be the first to bitch we didnt sign anyone ..

  51. Yeah It's me! Says:

    Yeah EDS sucks. You’ve figured that out in a couple preseason quarters. You’d be a great GM Dallasbuc. LOL!!!! Thank GOD we got a Great HC & GM and not an idiot like you in charge.

  52. Ole Bill Says:

    Joe, maybe they would want him as a teammate how would any of us know? Have you talked to the players about it? I mean come on man, if he makes the team better why not sign him if the price was right? If he sucks on the field thn don’t cut him but I’m all for making this team better regardless of the character of the player. I’m pretty sure these are grown men and if they want him around he will be.

  53. DallasBuc Says:

    YeahItsMe- did I say EDS sucks? Need to put words in my mouth to make an arguement completely unrelated to what I have actually said. Well done. I am not trying to be a GM, just criticizing the moves that ours has made…and you! You are not having an easy time reading for comprehension or understanding how debate works. Sorry man.

  54. Orca Says:

    Yeah It’s me! Says:
    August 26th, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Orca – I was going to set you straight but I don’t think you could handle even being bullied with words. Maybe you should find a good badminton team to root for. LOL!!

    The nature of these comments proves my point about the kind of people supporting Incognito.

  55. Mike10 Says:

    I think you’re taking the ‘trust Lovie” opinion out of context. I agree 1 MILLION percent with everything you said about decisions made this offseason (in addition to the fact that he drafted Carimi in the first round and couldn’t build an O line for Crap in Chicago).
    However, “trust Lovie” refers to the whole ‘whether he’s going to be a detriment to the locker room/ is he controllable/ has he changed” concept
    I’m scared as hell looking at this guy’s history – but again I don’t think we can afford not to add some SERIOUS talent on the OL.

  56. phil Says:

    Why was Rishaw Johnson kicked out of Old Miss?

  57. Soggybottom Says:

    See this is how wars are started = I don’t get my way wa wa wa all the way home said this little piggy.. Let the pros run the team.. Its only your opinion and its nowhere written in stone just your opinion. My opinion is people here call people names, happens here alot joe and is not name calling and such what ruined the miami team.. Were no better..

  58. Jim Walker Says:

    It’s not like he knocked out his girlfriend in an elevator, or forced himself on a women in a bathroom stall. Geez.

 
 

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