Report: Bucs Reject Six Glennon Offers

May 10th, 2014

YosemiteHow dare anyone around the NFL think the Bucs would trade Lovie Smith’s “quarterback of the future!”

But that’s what happened over the past 48 hours, reports Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times.

Glennon offers came the Bucs’ way from “at least a half dozen teams,” per Stroud, who didn’t offer a source or more details on the potential trades.

Joe’s glad the Bucs didn’t give Glennon away for a ham sandwich. He’s a solid backup quarterback. Tossing him away for the NFL version of peanuts would have been beyond foolish. However, if the Bucs turned down a third-round draft pick, then Joe’s gut would ache tonight from something other than beer and fried food.

Joe suspects the actual offers will never be known.

Again, as Joe’s written countless times, Joe watched Glennon make 13 starts and simply doesn’t believe Glennon has the necessary talent to ever get the Bucs to the Super Bowl. So Joe wants a different “quarterback of the future” on the roster.

It’s really just that simple.

Joe respects that Lovie Smith wants to roll with Josh McCown and Glennon. It’s Lovie’s team, and Glennon and McCown must be the duo selected by quarterbacks guru/offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford. If Lovie gets to the promised land with one of those QBs, then the man deserves a massive Team Glazer raise and extension.

232 Responses to “Report: Bucs Reject Six Glennon Offers”

  1. Max Says:

    “Again, as Joe’s written countless times, Joe watched Glennon make 13 starts and simply doesn’t believe Glennon has the necessary talent to ever get the Bucs to the Super Bowl.”

    100% Agree.

  2. MadMax Says:

    Awesome!!! Shows other teams know we have a good QB in Glennon…and the rejection shows L&L feel the same way!!

    MGM members are happy :D :D

  3. Adrian Says:

    As long as our QB’s can get us wins, I’ll be fans of them any day.

  4. Vincente Says:

    Well Glennon is solid, he can get it done and he needs stay in order to provide insurance in case something happens to Josh.

  5. dan Says:

    Wasn’t it just in the past two days that Joe said there would be no interest in mike Glennon? Spot on once again! I never get tired of this!!! Go BUCS!

    Sir, Joe NEVER said there would be no interest in Mike Glennon. Joe actually said the opposite, that Glennon could command a third- or fourth-round pick. Joe wrote that here and said it on the radio.–Joe

  6. MadMax Says:

    Hey, if Winston comes out next year, and we can make some trades, IM ALL FOR THAT PICK!

  7. Cody Says:

    Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so…I’m a Glennonite; I think he can be a very good QB if not elite…Yes he was the QB for the worst offense in the NFL last season but lets be honest he was a rookie, he had very little to work with from a personel standpoint, and the play calling was terrible, etc…

  8. dee Says:

    Mike glennon mob stand up.

  9. paul Says:

    glennon will have a better nfl career than manziel

  10. TheShaz Says:

    If Winston ever landed here next season. Can we pay him with Publix Gift Cards?

  11. BamBamBuc Says:

    Actually, we’re probably gonna roll with McCown and Brett Smith after they get a 3rd rounder for him in next year’s draft…

  12. Couch Fan Says:

    Not sure I want Winston anymore. Someone stupid enough to throw away a megastar career over crab legs shouldn’t be trusted.. just sayin!!

  13. ManzielMadness Says:

    Brett Smith signed by Bucs

  14. Bucky1 Says:

    JOE You sound like a guy that would complain even if you got hanged with a new rope. You don’t have to like him (although you say you do, probably like you do Schiano) just stop this constant putdown comment -Backup Quarterback. You will probably still refer to him that way when he leads our team to playoffs. Please remember whining is for losers. Johnny F Football is gone and as you wrote in another piece probably to die there.

    Joe’s not whining. Joe doesn’t tell you how to be a fan. Joe does like Glennon, as explained in the post. –Joe

  15. Couch Fan Says:

    Nice!!

  16. The Real Drew Says:

    Brett Smith, QB Wyoming reported to be a UDFA signing.

  17. MadMax Says:

    @Couch, I view that whole situation as him making a huge mistake. I dont know what he was thinking…maybe he was drinking or high and just forgot….or maybe he was trying to get out of there fast because of fans. Who really knows the true story. Im not worried about it though.

  18. BamBamBuc Says:

    Bucky1, Glennon is a backup QB, so is McCown… just because they both got to start games does not make them NFL starting caliber QBs. Just means they filled in well when called upon, which is the perfect backup QB.

  19. Brandon Says:

    Great news!!! The Bucs signed QB Brett Smith as an UDFA. This kid is magical! Johnny Manziel only with no off field issues, 2 inches taller, and faster.

    You heard it here first. Brett Smith will beat out Glennon and Glennon will be traded.

    Watch his tape. 6’2 205 lbs, 4.51 40, 10″ hands… and a Manziel-like ability:

    http://draftbreakdown.com/players/brettsmith/

  20. Bucfreak Says:

    Solomon patton is a udfa for the bucs, per onlygators .

  21. Brandon Says:

    The Real Drew Says:
    May 10th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
    Brett Smith, QB Wyoming reported to be a UDFA signing.

    =================

    THAT’S AWESOME! Great prospect. Fast and fearless playmaker. Under Tedford, he could be a star.

  22. MadMax Says:

    Damnnnn!! Im good with that! Niiiiice!!!!

  23. Jeagan1999 Says:

    MG8 is still our future QB, but I like the Brett Smith signing….he’s a good athlete!

  24. MadMax Says:

    Come on Joes….Brett smith article…..

  25. Couch Fan Says:

    When is the rookie mini camp?

  26. Barry Says:

    People in sports media, especially in this town, think they’re talent evaluators and it’s apparent they’re not.

  27. lions Says:

    @Brandon You are not fooling are you? That would be great news if they signed Brett Smith!!!

  28. MadMax Says:

    Were also signing WR Solomon Patton…….

  29. Kevin Says:

    Put Russel Wilson or Joe Flacco…the TWO PREVIOUS SUPER BOWL WINNERS….Flacco with now weapons the year he won it, which he had Boldin, Smith, Rice and his tight ends, or Russel Wilson with no dominant D and NEITHER of those two guys sport super bowl wins today. ITS A TEAM SPORT PEOPLE!!! Put Aaron Rodgers with Greg Sciano or Greg Olsen’s play calling. Nadda!!!NO RING!!! YOU KNOW IT!!! Glennon, McCown and a LOT of other QB’s of the present and past could very well make it to the super bowl with the right supporting cast and play calling. There are 10 other guys that have to make it happen. It is amazing how fans overlook the fact that it’s a combined effort. Lot’s of different pieces. I’m happy to have Glennon and McCown. They both work they’re tails off and actually give a crap about the other guys on the team. Freeman never did and it’s unfortunate. It was a waste. But just because he is gone everyone expects to land the next Tom Brady over night. Where would Tom Brady be if he was playing for the Jags or Browns and horrible play calling along with second stringers all around him? No….not playing in the Super Bowl. Tedford is gonna light this division up and I can’t wait!!!!!!!! GO BUCS!!!

  30. Brandon Says:

    No fooling, I nearly jumped out of my seat when I heard. I would NEVER lie about something like this. I’m super excited.

  31. Brandon Says:

    Patton could be that return ace Lovie covets. Another good signing.

  32. Jerry Says:

    I believe it will prove out that overall, L&L had a very productive draft; though, and I hope I’m wrong, they will rue the day they passed on a couple of the QB’s.

  33. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Joe Im sorry but you are a Complete Idiot if you :
    1) think you know more than L&L
    2) cant wrap your head around the Sorry Cast and Coaching he had last yr.
    You Constantly blame him for our last place Offense.
    Show me an article where you blame Glennons second half meltdown on the Cast around him.

    1) Joe doesn’t pretend to know more than the coach and GM. In fact, it’s the coach and GM who replaced Glennon with journeyman Josh McCown. Joe also knows the coach and GM will make plenty of mistakes. Joe doesn’t blame Glennon, but Glennon was a key cog last season. –Joe

  34. Brandon Says:

    The Bucs have a QB of the future… and his name is Brett Smith.

  35. FloridaGirl Says:

    Glennon has potential. Now that there are people that can catch on the team, maybe he’ll do better….kid was thrown into a crap sandwhich and had the usual rookie issues. We’ll see how he develops – which is what he was drafted to be last year.

  36. BamBamBuc Says:

    Smith won’t be ready for a year or two, but he’s got a lot going for him if he can stick around. Still, worth a look to see if we can stash him on the PS or keep him inactive this year.

  37. MadMax Says:

    Smith will be a better prospect than Kafka thats for sure!

  38. dee Says:

    If anybody on here think a undrafted free agent is going to beat out glennon your a moron.

  39. StAugBuc Says:

    Bucs couldn’t have signed Smith. William said multiple times that Connor Shaw was coming to Tampa

  40. rhenry Says:

    Hey Joe, if Glennon becomes our starter, will you embrace it?

  41. Brandon Says:

    BamBamBuc:

    You’re almost definitely right. He’s only 21. The guy left Wyoming as a true junior, as he never had a redshirt season in college, I think it is time he took that redshirt. To me, this was the pickup of the draft for the Bucs, I’ve been on the Smith-kick since early January and he’s gotten no love at all…but all the guy needs is a chance. Humble, hardworking, a leader with an innate feel for pressure and where receivers are. His size and arm aren’t the best (though not far from Bridgewater in either department), but with time he will continue to bulk up, his arm will get stronger.

  42. Realis1 Says:

    Now maybe we can hear some positives about Mike Glennon from you Joe but somehow I doubt it. We have a QB that comes in as a 3rd round pick to an offense with no weapons, outside of Jackson and fellow ROOKIE Wright, and throws for over 2600yds 19Tds 9Ints and 83.9 rating and instead of wanting to see how he pans out you want to get rid of him for an unpredictable Manziel.

    Would you be happy if Glennon had 3000yds 25Tds and 15Ints this year? Based on his first year that is very reasonable especially with Jackson, Evans, ASF, Wright and screen plays to Martain, Demps, Sims and Herron. You also reported how well the new linemen are at pass blocking, something that we were sorely missing last year. I’m very optimistic and you should be too.

    I’m happy that we finally have speed (and Playmakers) at the WR, TE, RB and a good O line with Glennon and Mcknown.

    Joe has delivered loads of positives about Glennon. Why must Joe agree that Glennon is a potential front line starter in the NFL? If he is, why did Lovie get Josh McCown and anoint him starter? Don’t blame Joe for Lovie replacing Glennon. Same thing happened to Adrian Clayborn. –Joe

    –Joe

  43. Brandon Says:

    dee Says:
    May 10th, 2014 at 8:07 pm
    If anybody on here think a undrafted free agent is going to beat out glennon your a moron.

    ——————–

    Usually it’s the morons that don’t know which “you’re” to use when insulting somebody’s intelligence on the internet.

  44. Patrick Says:

    Glennon proved last year that he was a serviceable starter.

  45. MadMax Says:

    Also signed Guard Andrew Miller…Virginia Tech

  46. finishers Says:

    GO BUCS!

  47. MadMax Says:

    And CB Keith Lewis

  48. BamBamBuc Says:

    Smith will not beat out Glennon this year unless this offense is just purely designed to fit Smith, some sort of run and shoot offense. In that case, you never know. But give him a year or two and Glennon might need feel like a giraffe being chased by a lion when it comes to Smith.

  49. MadMax Says:

    And DE Ryne Giddins

  50. BamBamBuc Says:

    Wilder Jr. just signed with the Bengals, in case anyone was interested.

  51. Nybucsfan Says:

    Glennon better start worrying about Brett smith. I think he can steal his spot key work with smith is athletic.

  52. bucrightoff Says:

    Of course Glennon wasn’t available. We sorta need a 6’6 guy to throw to all those 6’4 or taller receivers and tight ends. Beyond that there was no need to give away a guy who’s got a pretty good chance to end up better than any QB in the draft. His first 13 games were not his peak despite what many around here think. He’s got room to grow and improve, and he will. Joe may not think Glennon is more than a backup, but hopefully now Joe hopes and roots for himself to be wrong.

  53. MadMax Says:

    And Tony Hurd DB Texas A&M

  54. bucray1 Says:

    my guess is that stroud really doesn’t know spit and is ,once again , talking out of his a**. nothing more dangerous than a media member that needs to feel self-important.

  55. MadMax Says:

    And Mycal Swaim, Safety

  56. MadMax Says:

    Some of these are mini camp invites….just noticed that.

  57. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    #55

    My son just sent me a link of the G.O.A.T (Check it Out)
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-m/0ap2000000348530/Derrick-Brooks-joins-NFL-AM

  58. Kevin Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vetTluFpFo

    Highlights on Brett Smith. This was not a practice squad signing!!!!

  59. Shawnbucfan Says:

    I hear we may sign qb jarred Lorzen he can also fill our line needs as well. The qb, and lineman of the future

  60. Jordan Says:

    The Buc’s draft was a scathing indictment of Joe’s perception of Glennon. I would hope that Joe would learn to assess rookie QB’s based on the previous statistical data of rookie QBs, and not on emotion.
    Top rookie passer rating since 1960 (minumum 11 starts)
    1. RGIII
    2. Russell Wilson
    3. Ben Roethlisberger
    4. Dan Marino
    5. Matt Ryan
    6. MIKE GLENNON !!!! QB of the future!!!

    Then why did the regime replace him with McCown? Joe is not assessing Glennon on emotion. Joe bases his assessment on performance, potential, wins, etc. Look at the Bucs’ second half offense.–Joe

  61. BritBucsince92 Says:

    MG8 haters and lovers give it a rest. He is the back up QB, nothing more. I believe McCoy was a great FA pick up and will have at least two great seasons for us. Plenty of time to assess MG8 during that time or find a replacement if he doesn’t pan out.

  62. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014-nfl-undrafted-fre-agents/2

    A pretty good source for UDFA signings. even thought it is a NE Patriots site. they have Smith and Patton Listed. They will update it the next day or so.

  63. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Brandon

    We signed Smith..Anybody got a link to UDFA signings?

  64. Couch Fan Says:

    Mike “Winnin’ With NO Chance” Glennon!!

  65. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Scotty

    Thank you Sir

  66. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Shawnbucfan

    The Big Kid from Kentucky?

  67. ToesOnTheLine Says:

    Lovie said 4 QB’s going into camp, so if the ink on the Smith signing is really dry then we have that number. Hope Smith is as good as Brandon says, who doesn’t want depth at every position. The Glennon Mob welcomes the competition, wouldn’t be the first time fans have written Mike off on the Bucs only to see him weather the storm.

  68. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Keith Lewis CB, VA-Lynchburg

  69. Jerry Says:

    You folks who are attacking Joe because of his opinions are so way out of line. Every post on this board is an opinion and you know the old saying. Check the selfish emotions. If you disagree with Joe, I’m sure he’s fine with that. But don’t be mean and nasty because of your beliefs, or too much to drink. Respect other’s opinions. It’s Joe’s Board. Chill.

  70. stanglassman Says:

    Bucs signed a couple of WR too;

    Toney Hurd Jr., WR, Texas A&M

    Solomon Patton, WR, Florida

    Brandon if you don’t point that out we get to enjoy it over and over. Did anyone say Brett Smith was going to beat out Glennon this year?

  71. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Connor Shaw to Browns

  72. StAugBuc Says:

    2nd that, Jerry

  73. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Chaz Sutton, DE South Carolina

  74. Patrick Says:

    Jackson Jeffcoat from Texas needs to be signed. Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. Shocked that he wasn’t drafted.

  75. MTM Says:

    Sounds like a lot of really bad offers were made.

  76. Buxfan Says:

    Glennon did well with 1.5 weapons to throw to. A left tackle that quit on his team. Glennon is an accurate hard working QB. He do need to work on deep throws and pocket awareness. But he does have the tools to be successful.

  77. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    “Kyle Van Noy: (Derrick Brooks) was the person I watched growing up, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, that whole team. They just played the right way.”

  78. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Aaron Burks, WR, Boise State

  79. Tj Says:

    Tom Brady lost a lot of games his first yr, flaco suckd his first yrs. and brad Johnson the moose won us a Super Bowl, who knows, hell dilfer won one

  80. Mikeck Says:

    Its only 13 games. 13 games without the benefit of any reps in the offseason. It’s impossible to know if Glennon has it or not without watching the film and knowing what the reads were. It may look like Glennon made a bad throw but you don’t know if the receiver took the route too deep or what. Maybe he is going through multiple progressions quickly and just needs confidence. No way any of us can judge this at this point.

    The guys who know best are keeping him. Ever watch Eli Mannings first season?

  81. stanglassman Says:

    What I don’t understand people take it so personally when you try to explain to them that Glennon doesn’t fit or have the attributes to excel in the Buccaneers new offensive system. Once again I don’t think many people who believe this think he sucks or get be a decent QB in this league. I would think if you really like the guy and want the best for him you would want him to play in a system that suits his style.

  82. Broy3434 Says:

    Somebody send me a video link of Glennon evading a sack

  83. RastaMon Says:

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Undrafted FA signings
    Aaron Burks, WR, Boise State
    Toney Hurd Jr., CB, Texas A&M
    Keith Lewis, CB, Virginia-Lynch
    Solomon Patton, WR, Florida
    Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming
    Chaz Sutton, DE, South Carolina

  84. Bruno Says:

    Joe, Mike G.. is not a final product. He is quite possiblly either trade bait or an actual back up. That said, you attachment to JM is somewhat understandable given the ‘HYPE’, but as he walks out making it rain…he is going to CLE…where all QB draft picks go to die. He made himself look like a d!$@#CH Sorry man, he’s done. OH, and I don’t care if his hands are big…(honestly!!).

  85. stanglassman Says:

    Bucs signed CB Kieth Lewis Va Lynch

  86. StAugBuc Says:

    @stanglassman

    I think some don’t understand how you know more than the coaches.

  87. bucrightoff Says:

    stanglassman Says:
    May 10th, 2014 at 8:53 pm
    What I don’t understand people take it so personally when you try to explain to them that Glennon doesn’t fit or have the attributes to excel in the Buccaneers new offensive system. Once again I don’t think many people who believe this think he sucks or get be a decent QB in this league. I would think if you really like the guy and want the best for him you would want him to play in a system that suits his style.
    ________________________________________________________

    Seeing as though a) We have no idea what the offense looks like and b) Glennon is still on the roster, that perhaps despite what people think, he’s not a bad fit for the offense? When you look at Tedford’s track record of QBs, there’s a lot of traditional drop back guys in there (Dilfer, Harrington, Boller, Carr). I think people are assuming it needs to be run by someone mobile with really nothing to based it on.

  88. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Robert Herron-(Infamous Dorsey High School Alum)

    Under Coach Paul Knox-Doresy has helped produce at least 20 NFL players — among the highest success rates in the nation.

    Including Keyshawn Johnson

  89. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Steven Jenkins, LB, Texas A&M

  90. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    You know…if you wish to hurl insults at Joe, grow a pair and do it with your regular username instead of pussing out. You know who you are.

    I happen to disagree with Joe on the Glennon thing. And I disagree with the mgm. I don’t think there has been enough time to determine if he is good or bad. I just don’t think the Bucs should put all hope in him without having competition that has the same potential or better.

  91. Buxfan Says:

    @Jerry,

    I agree. This was not a good weekend for Joe. There’s no need to be nasty.

  92. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Btw..Joe was right when he said the Bucs would get a new QB this weekend.

  93. BBFFC Says:

    GLENNONITEES—– relax! He is upr backup still, how can he have a better year than last year or better stats? We’ll never know what would have happened if Carr was not picked 2 spots in front of us. Glennon got lucky the draft fell the way it did, later rounds too.

    Great draft, weapons look better than ever IMO.

    Brett smith is intriguing, but he’s 3rd string or practice squad this year. Just how it works, if he was better than manzeil….. He would have been drafted. Duh

  94. Brandon Says:

    Luvmy:
    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014-nfl-undrafted-freeagent/2
    Is the best I know of, I also search twitter, use kffl, but the Pats site is updated very frequently. I’ve been going there for years. Reliable and quick.

  95. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Buxfan

    I disagree my brotha-Did you see how many hits they got this weekend (smh Wow) -The future is looking is bright..no matter how many picks they miss on..lol

  96. Brandon Says:

    Not a good weekend for Joe? He’s a Bucs fan, isnt he? Bucs had an excellent draft, he should be happy.

  97. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Brandon

    Thank you brotha-New laptop-Had any issue transferring bookmarks

  98. kevin Says:

    Joe Brett Smith plays just like Manzeil….you should be happy as sh$! right now

  99. stanglassman Says:

    You guys are making my point. I’m not saying I don’t like Glennon and he can’t ever fit the system maybe he can and you’re right we don’t know exactly what it will be I’m only saying not to take it personally if someone is of the opinion that Glennon may not be what the new coaching staff is looking for to run the system right or wrong. I think Glennon smart, hard working, and is a better athlete than given credit. I’m rooting for him and more importantly I believe McCown is lobbying hard for him to the coaches and they’re starting to listen.

  100. MadMax Says:

    Sorry, had to make a beer and wing run….i was using bucsnation’s udfa article.

    and Im excited to see we’re giving my boy Chaz Sutton a chance….he played opposite of Clowney. Im surprised he wasnt drafted.

  101. Orca Says:

    Would be nice for Joe to shut up about GLennon at some point. Maybe give the guy a chance and see how he develops, considering he was playing in a crippled offense last year. Other teams apparently see something in him. Joe’s mind is closed.

  102. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @MadMax

    Hold on playa-you spending my stripper- tip change nah..hahaha

  103. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Damn Seahags signed Jeffcoat.

  104. MadMax Says:

    Nate Askew and Steven Jenkins….LB’s from Texas A&M

  105. Macabee Says:

    LUV,

    LSU players DT Anthony Johnson, FS Craig Loston, and FB J.C. Copeland went undrafted. The Bucs worked out Copeland. Any interest?

  106. MadMax Says:

    LOL Luv, plenty left over for the strippers (shhhh, dont tell my asian gf, they get jealous) lol.

  107. SteveK Says:

    Glennon is obviously worth a look see.

    Time for the QB obsessive fans (Freemanites) to open up your minds and hearts to MG8.

    Joe- McCown was brought in for today. Glennon is tomorrow. Both are in the plans.

    Plus, McCown is a great mentor.

  108. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Macabee

    I’m seriously shocked Craig Loston didn’t get drafted. I don’t know brotha

    @MadMax

    Lol-Yeah, I better slow down-I’m still in trouble for making the comments about Odell Beckhams mom..smh

  109. William Says:

    This is hilarious! Connor Shaw signed by Cleveland! LMAO

  110. BuckPuck Says:

    Here is a good list of signings, http://walterfootball.com/draft2014ufa.php

  111. GlenninGrad Says:

    Remember the offense is up tempo, and Glennon ran an excellent no huddle offense before shut down by NSO

  112. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Oklahoma State RB Jeremy Smith signed with the Bucs

  113. Eric Says:

    Well if they didnt draft a replacement for MG. And rejected trade offers for him….seems like a closed issue at OBP.

    Having said that why the offers unless the bucs let it be known he was available?

    And why would they do that? Was there a Qb in the draft they would have taken and dumped him?

  114. BFFL Says:

    Joe..no one cares what you think anymore.

    OK. The 100,000+ visits to this site, thankfully, say otherwise. –Joe

  115. MadMax Says:

    Odell’s Mom is friggin on Fire!! And thats my gf’s team, the Giants….and I kept that comment to myself around her, lol.

  116. MadMax Says:

    Dylan Lynch, K/P

  117. MadMax Says:

    Connor Shaw will probably beat out Manzie, lol

  118. Chef Paul Says:

    Glennon and these receivers? Are you kidding me? It’ll be like when you were seniors in high school walking amongst freshmen. You and your buddies can look over all the heads hovering shoulder height and communicate with eye contact.

    It’ll be like buoys in the water.

    I don’t live by the water so if that reference is wrong, I apologize in advance.

  119. Drew Says:

    Joe… you’re credentials in evaluating a QB are what?

  120. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Matt Patchan, OL, Boston College

  121. MadMax Says:

    @Eric, maybe they were holding true to their 2nd rounder for him….I wouldve been sad about it if thats what transpired, but its understandable. Still though, I’d love to see how he does sitting be hind McCown and with this O line and new weapons to throw to.

  122. MgM #8 Says:

    Hey Joe,the reason the regime got MCCown is because Glennon is young and inexperienced.They want to win now.MCCown is a veteran,Glennon has a ways to go yet. He”ll take us to the promise land,just be patient,like you we”re with Josh.Oh,by the way,how did that work out?Love your site,even though we disagree,that’s whats fun,to see who comes out on top.Keep up the good work,love to read your articles.

  123. Eric Says:

    @madmax

    Just seems slightly inconsistent with the current lovefest concerning Glennon by the bucs.

  124. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Glennon will get his chance to stick with the team and potentially become the starter, no matter what the dejected Manziel mob thinks of his ability. The Glennon supporters have been vindicated and the continued dislike by the usual whiners is sour grapes. “The quarterback of the future” has a nice ring to it.

  125. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    “Glennon was no upgrade, which is why the regime is gone — and so to will be Glennon (90% shot). –Joe”

    So, can we start calling him Mike “10%” Glennon?

  126. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @MadMax

    She walked on that red carpet in New York-I slipped and said damn-If looks could kill..smh

  127. boob Says:

    As I grow older I ‘ve started to realize that no one really knows what they are talking about! As the big dog stated on his show this week :” I am not standing there with a stop watch”.
    My first impression of Glennon was from the first game he played and there didn’t seem to be a big drop off from Freeman. Honestly, I am lost about his abilities and if the prognosticators were to answer honestly they would have to answer similarly.

    I ‘ve thought that Lamar Thomas and Brady Quinn were the real deal along with Sapp, Brooks, and Dunn. Nobody knows….its a damn crap shoot.

  128. MadMax Says:

    Yes Sir my man….she’s hotter than most of their gf’s/wives.

  129. MadMax Says:

    This draft has been freaky good…heres a fav song of mine for you Luv….its party time Hey Hey Hey……

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ue_mcxvrw

  130. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Former Boston College OT Matt Patchan has agreed to a deal with the #Buccaneers.

    -Thought for sure this kid would get drafted-Glad we picked ‘em up. Hopefully he makes the practice squad.

  131. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Mycal Swaim SS Eastern Michigan

  132. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Now that’s some different Issh-But 46,379,093 views..wow

  133. lurker Says:

    brett smith pro day

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgUn0wTvwk

    about 7 minutes long. last couple minutes has him moving under “pressure”.

  134. MadMax Says:

    LOL, that vid/song kicks butt… just freaky fun!!

  135. Couch Fan Says:

    @ODB

    I prefer my “Mike Winnin’ with NO Chance Glennon” in honor of Joe’s opinion of Mike ever being our franchise QB.

  136. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    Jeff Garcia, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon? Who are they?

  137. MadMax Says:

    UDFA’s ;)

  138. bucfan999 Says:

    Joe…..You may censor what I wrote earlier but as you can see here I’m not the only person who reads what you write and come away with the impression that you totally hate Mike Glennon. If you have EVER wrote anything positive about him I haven’t seen it and I come to this site at least once a day so if you have they have been few and far between.

    Sir, Joe was POSITIVE about Glennon in this post, calling Glennon a strong backup and worth a third-round pick. –Joe

  139. Barry Says:

    MG8 haters are not true Buccaneer fans. Period.

  140. anotherbucsfan Says:

    Joe,
    You should change the name of this section from comments to Sport Bar.

    BTW since we keep comming back at this site that means we still care what Joe thinks.

  141. jr Says:

    Glennon has thrown more touchdowns in his first season than mccown has at any year in his entire career. Joe loves to hate glennon. Just cause he isn’t gonna be on gq magazine doesn’t mean he can’t play ball. Coming soon joebrownsfan.com

  142. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @MadMax

    I know its not a party cut-But something I’ve always got in heavy rotation

    LEP Bogus Boys – 25th Hour
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?vn2Vjab-J3Qg

  143. MadMax Says:

    “on the 25th hour” Nice!!!

  144. Drew H. Says:

    Jesus christ Joe…now that Johnny Football is gone and that drum is useless we’re going to be pounding the Mike Glennon still sucks drum for the season…

    Can we just give the kid a full season to see what he really has? Matt Ryan looked like crap last year, Eli Manning looked like crap under a similar situation as Ryan…Mike has the toys now to have a ‘no excuses’ season. Can we not be so dramatic all of the time and maybe hit on some positives…this website has turned into one big broken record…

    Scroll around. Joe thinks you’re focusing way too much on Glennon and not the mountains of other stuff Joe writes about. And newsflash, Glennon won’t play much this season “to see what he really has” (your words). –Joe

  145. Barry Says:

    Justin Pawlowski told me via Twitter that he would never ever support Mike Glennon even though he’s Lovie/Licht’s guy. Hoping the Bucs fail doesn’t sound like a true fan to me. Justin, Joe, SD, Tom Jones, 620, 98.7 Birds of a feather…..

  146. Robert7 Says:

    Fishing is good today eh joe

  147. bucfan999 Says:

    @Barry

    Be careful I wrote the same thing earlier on another post and Joe completely censored it out. I felt like I was in Soviet Russia

  148. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    Amen Jerry on the Joe ragging. Seriously annoying are the mean spirited personal attacks. It takes away from the comments section.

  149. SailorJerry Says:

    Lovie is an established NFL coach…Joe writes a blog…we are fans. I certainly hope that Lovie knows more about evaluating talent then anyone writing or reading this dialogue.

  150. lightningbuc Says:

    Couch Fan Mob & Oil Derrick Brooks Mob,

    I guess the three of us ain’t so dumb after all!

  151. rdbucfan Says:

    Then why did the regime replace him with McCown? Joe is not assessing Glennon on emotion. Joe bases his assessment on performance, potential, wins, etc. Look at the Bucs’ second half offense.–Joe

    Joe, you know why McCown was brought here. Licht said it was to teach Glennon. You even wrote it in one of your articles. Yet your deep dislike for Glennon (because he replaced your first man crush Freeman) keeps you from believing the truth. You wanted Manziel so bad you were willing to try to trade up to #2 giving up our #7, 2nd rounder and Banks to get him. So Manziel could sit on the bench for 2 years to learn from McCown. Which is exactly what L&L want for Glennon. As you always say, all of the facts in my post can be found in your articles in the archives.

  152. lurker Says:

    bufan999, u r a moron. certain words are censored. if you use them they “await moderation”.

  153. tmaxcon Says:

    Smith hands down has the most upside of any qb on bucs roster. Plus he was with bucs qb coach at Wyoming. Anyone who thinks Smith is practice squad material is crazy. He has more athletic ability in his big toe than the leader of the 32nd ranked offense has period. I don’t hate Glennon probably a nice guy but he is not the answer. I’ll support him but hopefully he never sees the field again or the bucs are in trouble for sure.

  154. NuckIfYouBuc Says:

    Fact is: Glennon was a decent rookie. We had coaching, receiving, and rb problems all season yet this kid looked ok as a rookie! Look at other rookies who didn’t pan out like gabbert, ponder, and weedon. Glennons in the perfect situation, with experience and now someone to learn from he’ll be just fine. So relax we didn’t take a qb.

  155. biff barker Says:

    The Smith signing begs the question, has a UFA QB ever started for an NFL team?

  156. lurker Says:

    i agree. glennon is not the answer.

    unless, of course, the question is “who is not the answer at quarterback?”

  157. NuckIfYouBuc Says:

    How can you hate on Glennone when he worked well in tough situation?

  158. finishers Says:

    hey joe can we get a list of all the undrafted rookies we signed?

  159. bucrightoff Says:

    biff barker Says:
    May 10th, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    The Smith signing begs the question, has a UFA QB ever started for an NFL team?
    ________________________________________

    Tony Romo…

  160. lurker Says:

    it is not hate…it is reality. what well did he do? he literally folded under pressure. he has a weak arm as evidenced by the ducks on deep passes. a professional qb who throws ducks consistently on deep passes is not an asset. he underthrew receivers. though they dropped passes, they bailed glennon out more time than naught.

  161. bucfan999 Says:

    @lurker

    You shouldn’t comment and call people morons when you have no idea what Joe censored!!!!! I wrote the same stuff Barry had wrote saying Joe hated Glennon and loved Freeman……So get a life moron

  162. lurker Says:

    so he wrote verbatim (that means word-for-word) what you wrote. i find that highly doubtful. so you emailed barry and pasted what you wrote that was “awaiting moderation” and it went through for him?

    didn’t think so.

  163. Barry Says:

     
     
    When Johnny comes marching home again,
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    We’ll give him a hearty welcome then
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    The men will cheer and the boys will shout
    The ladies they will all turn out
    And we’ll all feel gay when Johnny comes marching home.

  164. bucfan999 Says:

    @lurker

    Get a life Dude……I wrote that Joe hated Mike Glennon, loved Freeman and that Joe and the media such as Rick Stroud, Tom Jones, the Little Dog and Booger all wanted Glennon gone and a new QB drafted. I get the feeling you are Joe under another name

  165. Barry Says:

    What did Glennon do? Rookie Of The Year!!!!!!! Amazing the hate for this kid and he’s been nothing but a true professional. 90% of Tampa sports pundits and 50% of Buc fans were wrong about Glennon and you just can’t ever walk that back. You own it. As for the rest of us, well we just have higher football intelligence. It’s not your fault, you just don’t have a high football IQ. Now let’s go get some ice cream.

  166. tmaxcon Says:

    If Glennon was a decent rookie the bucs would not have finished 32nd. I still don’t think Glennon is on roster opening day. Quote Lovie all you want he said the same things about revis. Smith won’t start this year but next year I wouldn’t bet against it.

  167. Buc1987 Says:

    Told you all so and you’re welcome. Yeah It’s called gloating. MGK Mob baby!

  168. tmaxcon Says:

    Since when did every single position receive rookie of the year awards. That is such bs and twisting of facts. Quick who was the long snapper rookie of year

  169. Buc1987 Says:

    “I Love Mike Glennon.”- Lovie Smith

  170. tmaxcon Says:

    He loved revis too

  171. tmaxcon Says:

    Barry if your knowledge is so superior you’d have a job

  172. Buc1987 Says:

    Revis was an entirely different situation.

  173. BuckPuck Says:

    Can you guys believe Shane Skov and Jackson Jeffcoat were not drafted??

  174. tmaxcon Says:

    BucPuc,

    Mack Brown destroyed Texas his last few years and Jeffcoat got caught up in it. Seattle signed him. I can throw a rock and hit UT from my office you should her all the crying about Jeffcoat not getting drafted

  175. tmaxcon Says:

    87

    I understand that but coach and gm speak is still the same bs. I am happy the bucs got better this week but I just don’t see the same potential you guys do in Glennon. I was wrong with most of my draft predictions and have no problem admitting so. I still think Smith will surprise people in Tampa. If he played in sec acc or pack 10 he’d be no worse than 3rd rounder in my opinion

  176. tmaxcon Says:

    Don’t underestimate the Smith qb coach Arroyo connection either folks.

  177. rdbucfan Says:

    The anti Glennon crowd is hilarious. They just don’t get it that Glennon is here for the foreseeable future. The time to trade him has passed. Why would L&L waste a roster spot on someone they don’t want.

    I know they’re just going to keep him until another QB goes down in the preseason and they’ll get better value for him. Since we now have the udfa Smith here to save the day and take the job away from a player that has proven he can play in this league.

    I’m sure Lovie is willing to put his jo on the line for a udfa.

  178. rdbucfan Says:

    his job.

  179. lurker Says:

    i have been called many things, but never a pseudonym for “joe”!

  180. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ BucFreak

    Fuk YEA!!!! Solomon Patton was singed by the bucs!!! You are looking at your newest return man, I can tell you that much right now. I really wanted the bucs to draft this guy, so to see him singed as an UFA makes me so damn happy. Make no mistake about it, this kid can play. And not only that, but he is FAST, like 4.2_ fast. This made my night. Thank you Bucs!

  181. Andrew 1 Says:

    If he is not our opening day return man, I will be shocked.

  182. ToesOnTheLine Says:

    It will be awesome of this Brett Smith kid becomes great, but does anyone else besides me see the insanity of a lot of the same people who argued that Glennon was a 3rd Rnd pick for a reason, the chances of finding a franchise QB are better in the 1st Rnd (duh!?) or that Glennon has a weak arm are the same people willing to believe an undrafted FA QB whose knock is a weak arm is likely to become the franchise QB in Tampa?

  183. lurker Says:

    i don’t see the manziel-likeness in smith.

  184. Roland Says:

    ToesOnTheLine, 6 of the top 10 passers last season in the NFL were NOT 1st rounders… So if you actually take away the Peyton Manning/ Andrew Luck’s (1st overall pick who were pretty-much LOCKS) you find QB’s have only a slight increased chance of succeeding if takien in round one…
    With that said the reason many people can’t and won’t support Glennon is simple… He plays fine for the first 50 minutes of a game. Then he got worse… Always… Got… Worse…

  185. Dave Says:

    Hey are eyeing Winston for next year. No doubt about it. They may have to give up slot to get him but I’ll be all for it.

  186. BBFFC Says:

    It’s just pretty obvious that L&L tried to “bigger, better deal Glennon”. They didn’t want Johnny @7, noone else did either. We couldn’t afford to go up to 21/22 for him either. Then Carr went 2 picks before us in 2nd round. At a certain point Glennon was better than the QB’s on the board, we knew that and so did the teams that called us, That point was after Carr went to the Raiders! We gambled and lost on a new QB. Glennon was and still is the—– BACKUP—- plan. All the quotes and facts and rumors show this to be the case. Believing the BS that coaches and GM’s say anytime of year is one thing…… but around draft time? Seriously! They said he’s our QB of the future because it pumps his trade value on the one hand, and if you end up keeping him (stuck with him) then evereything appears to be kosher, and PR is great. Then Glennon fans are so happy that they can say “told you so” to the internet!

    As far as the Wyoming QB goes, I hope he’s the next Joe Montana! But reality is, he is not ready to challenge a competent game manager like Glennon for backup duties. If McCown goes down, MG* will get first crack at it, period. He’s actually earned it last year. Smith can be snuck onto the practice squad easily. Teams already have their own developmental QB’s and usually stay hands off at initial cuts. It’s a risk though. Once we sign him up to the PS, it’s true that any team can still sign him away to their active roster, but he would just tell us and we then sign/promote him ourselves. That’s the standard operating procedure. Damn I hope he’s good though, too good to relegate him in the first place.

  187. tmaxcon Says:

    BBCFC well said. Smith has the most upside but is not ready this year.

  188. b.Bruce Says:

    Glennon is the next Joe Montana.just look at what they said about Montana a its the same stuff they said about Glennon.they play and look just alike.

  189. BBFFC Says:

    Glennon is just like Montana! Ha haha! I hope you’re messing with us. Montana was short and mobile, a winner at all levels. Glennon is accurate on short throws like joe, but he is the Tampa version of the Statue of Liberty! Not as tall but even slower.

  190. stanglassman Says:

    I think those are great points BBCFC, it articulates in a better way something I was trying to say earlier to the I told ya so Glennon supporters. Although I will say I think that it’s only true in the Bucs system that a QB like Carr or Brett Smith has a higher potential. Glennon may have good potential in a Belichick or Broncos type system. I know no one knows what Tedford’s system will be and I’m not trying to pretend to know more than the coaches but I do believe the ‘speed in space’ motto does include when the QB has the ball.

  191. Greig Says:

    Glennon fans need to face facts, he’s now the backup QB and that isn’t going to change barring something negative happening to the starter.
    If you don’t accept that I challenge you to name me 1 guy that started a bunch of games as a rookie, got benched (for a career backup) in the very next off season and then came back to be a quality player after “developing.”
    Just 1 guy, if you are going to be great you generally “flash” something when you see the field and don’t get replaced at the 1st opportunity.
    Even with the coaching (which was strangely good enough to help the 2012 Bucs set offensive records), injuries to surrounding cast, etc Mike should have flashed something.
    Mike didn’t struggle so much for large portions of the game because of other problems, his own problems were a huge PART of the teams overall struggles.

  192. tmaxcon Says:

    I want some of what you’re drinking or smoking to even mention the goat with 4 rings in the same sentence as the leader of the WORST (32nd) offense in the league. Please share! you obviously just got back from Colorado or Cali

  193. stanglassman Says:

    I know their answer already Greig. They would say: You just don’t have the football IQ to see it like they do and no worries it’s alright just go have some (you get a pat on the head at this point) ice cream.

  194. MadMax Says:

    @Greig, dont be surprised when Glennon is called on, once again,if something goes wrong with McCown as the starter, and this time around, he has much more success! Like I said already, even McCown wouldve looked horrible starting for us last year.

  195. MadMax Says:

    Keep bringing on the criticism of Glennon guys…while stubbornly ignoring the fact he didnt have much to work with last year…OR much O line to help protect him!

    Why do you think the O line was purged by L&L and we just spent an entire draft on offensive weapons? Im so glad L&L is in charge and not you Glennon haters!!!!!!

  196. stanglassman Says:

    Even McCown but not Freeman, right? He just sucked and it was all his fault- great logic.

  197. MadMax Says:

    ….oh, NOW it comes out….a freemanite….

    Freeman did suck, many mental issues going on there…need I say more? Or just go watch his monday night Vikings game, and then need I say more. Oh, and he still had mike williams and Dougie…..along with the atrocious play calling from schiano and sullivan, which didnt benefit either of them….thanks for waking up smdh!

  198. Sam Says:

    The QB’s in next year’s draft look a lot more enticing. If Glennon doesn’t work out then we’ll get our QB at that time.

  199. Roland Says:

    I have to agree with Sam. The only way we should give up on Glennon now is if he had the same penchant for playing worse at the end of games at NC State and that carried over to last season with the Bucs. Everyone forgets Glennon was Ranked by ESPN as the No. 3 quarterback in the nation (#5 by scout.com) coming out of high school.
    Glennon has tools. Glennon gets a strong preseason look this year. And you can bet he has a small window of opportunity to prove himself. Small. But it’s still open. For now.

  200. williethewonder Says:

    Chris Landry said that saying Glennon is the QB of the future is the same kind of thing as what they said to Revis and Penn (meaning, until we can find someone who can replace you). They may have just done that with Brett Smith, although it remains to be seen. SBNation.com had him as their 8th ranked QB, saying this about him:

    “For those looking for a lesser version of Manziel at a cheaper price, Brett Smith could be that guy. Like Manziel, Smith is a tremendous athlete with the ability to keep plays alive with his legs. He also has a strong arm and is willing to take chances down the field. Smith just needs to harness some of that aggressiveness and be a bit smarter with the football. Overall, he’s a high-upside quarterback who could develop into a starter if he irons out some of his flaws.”

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2014/5/6/578824/2014-nfl-draft-quarterback-rankings-bridgewater-manziel

  201. williethewonder Says:

    At a quarter inch under 6′ 2, and a 4.51 40 time, Brett Smith definitely fits what Lovie himself said about wanting more athleticism and speed at every position, INCLUDING QUARTERBACK. He’s just a rookie and will need time to develop, but I definitely believe that given the chance, he fits what Lovie and Tedford are looking for and could become the QB of the future. This is definitely someone you don’t want on the practice squad, where anyone else could snatch him up. Check out my previous post, reporting what SBNation.com said about him, having him listed as their 8th ranked QB.

  202. williethewonder Says:

    By the way, we already have Brett Smith’s teammate, Robert Herron, who we picked up because we liked the way they worked together.

  203. Martinii Says:

    I just wanted to be the 200th poster to respond to this issue. Jason Licht did not give a number in his interview. I am not surprised that other teams would inquire. I think they would only respond to a suggestion that we were shopping him. Also I must ask what level of a response did we get? A GM or some subordinate level staff. Lot on the table for most teams the past week.

  204. williethewonder Says:

    Brett Smith highlights (a lot of them to Robert Herron), this guy can flat out FLY, and doesn’t take big hits.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veTlu5FpFo

  205. williethewonder Says:

    Oh, and anybody who wants to knock Brett Smith because he’s an UDFA, there are plenty of examples of players who slip through the cracks and end up becoming Pro-Bowlers. Three off the top of my head: Tony Romo, Wes Welker, Donald Penn

  206. biff barker Says:

    Willie, I was not knocking Smith when I asked about a UFA QB. I’ve not seen the kid play. The odds are well stacked against him, that’s all. 32 teams took a flyer 7 times for some reason. Nonetheless, I hope the kid pans out for us.
    Hell, people run Glennon down because he was a third rounder!

  207. Nybucsfan Says:

    MGM just like JF5 fans all excuses everyone’s fault but his. I’m not a big MG fan doesn’t mean I’m not a true bucs fan it means I want better I hope smith beats him out that means upgrade. If Glennon gets on the field and plays well I may change my mind but 19 td 9 int’s 7 fumbles and 200.6 yards a game stinks. That’s his numbers what are you basing your opinion on MGM.

  208. SeanyMac in SC Says:

    Not a Glennon fan boy, I’m a Bucs fan boy, but the play calling was awful for Mike. No adjustments whats so ever. By half time every defense knew what we were going to “attempt”. “Run the ball and take shots down field”. When the Bucs did a hurry up offense last year, don’t remember the game, they drove down the field and scored twice. Then the NSO shut that down stating “we did not practice that”. WTF!

    Did Mike Glennon make rookie mistakes, sure he did. IMHO, he has not been given a fair chance to succeed. I think L&L will give him that fair chance.

    It really puzzles me why Kaffka is on this roster.

    Go Bucs.

  209. Schlomie Gentile-Schlep Says:

    Glennon has not been “replaced with Mcown.” There is no guarantee that Mcown will be the starter.

  210. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Keep pointing out Glennon’s faults. The haters are pathetic. I know, you don’t hate him. You just think he is a pile of crap at QB. I hope Mike Glennon reads this site and takes the criticism as a challenge to raise his level of play to meet your standards.

  211. Couch Fan Says:

    It doesn’t matter what you think NYBucFan. You can continue to cry like a girl all you want but it means nothing. Lovie/Licht LOVE Glennon. He is our future, accept it, embrace it.

    To the Anti Mike Glennon Mob (AMGM), It must really piss you all off to hate someone so much that the coach LOVES and has declared the future. Suckers. LMAO.

    LOVE LIVE THE MGM!!!

  212. Couch Fan Says:

    LONG*

  213. BoJim Says:

    “Joe doesn’t blame Glennon, but Glennon was a key cog last season. –Joe”

    A key cog without any projections (weapons. support, protection, hampered by crappy coaching). Funny looking cog.

    Lovie brought in McCown for security. His contract is only guaranteed for 1 year. Glennon will be mentored by McCown and Glennon starts next year unless McCown sucks.

    Smith will ride the bench for a couple years.

    Hey! Where’s Conner Shaw?

    tmaxcon Saiid:

    “Barry if your knowledge is so superior you’d have a job”

    Maybe he can’t “pull” like you can?

  214. Bucfever40 Says:

    Joe, with all do respect, and the fact that I agree with most of your assessments regarding our favorite team, I sincerely hope you become a Mike Glennon fan, don’t be like Duemig, who will argue to the point of being absurd, even when he is wrong, some people just don’t have that (humility?) in them. Nobody is saying your wrong on how you feel about Mike Glennon, I get what you’re saying, I do…but you’ve heard it all before, last year was his FIRST year as an NFL QB, he had to endure mediocre coaching, which was borderline schizophrenic, his starting RB went down with an injury, the offensive line was truly OFFENSIVE (which is a huge factor right there), and the defens didn’t help him secure any leads…..not many QB’s can overcome these things, and the kid STILL did alright, you keep saying he commanded the last ranked offense, well why can’t any of this blame go to lousy coaching? He had a first time offensive coordinator, who was a good guy, but was clearly in over his head, he didn’t have that veteran presence in his ear to help him out like he will this year. There’s a lot of positive changes to both the offense AND defense, let’s give the kid a chance, it’s just his second year, many great QB’s had lousy rookie seasons, I think in Glennon’s case, people just don’t like the way he looks and may subconsciously hold that against him (not saying you do), but it seems if the kid eventually lights it up in this league, people like the Big Dog will STILL find excuses to not like him just for the sake of being right, I say bullspit to that joe, I hope if Glennon does become a fixture here by being a very good QB, that you humbly change your stance on this subject. I’d like to know under those circumstances mentioned, how you’d react.

    Joe really has no stance to change. Joe will root for Glennon when the whistle blows. When the game isn’t on, Joe will hope the Bucs upgrade the starting quarterback position, for now and the future. And as far as “mediocre coaching” Glennon got last year, per your comment, are we so sure about that. Perhaps, Schiano, McNulty and Sullivan did an amazing job developing Glennon? How could a Glennon Mobster argue against that? Again. Lovie dethroned Glennon, not Joe. Most who attack Joe on this subject don’t choose to realize that.–Joe

  215. Flmike Says:

    Here’s my take, for what it’s worth…
    I think they signed McCown to give Glennin a year to learn, they saw enough of his tape to know he’s their guy, but he needs grooming, last season he was thrust into a situation that no rookie should have to endure, but in that he showed he has the goods, my personal view is he’ll be starting by week 6 because that is McCowns career seasonal good game ceiling.

  216. Couch Fan Says:

    Perhaps, Schiano, McNulty and Sullivan did an amazing job developing Glennon?

    ——————–

    Lol I have no words for how silly that response is Joe other than to say, “Really?”… Your reaching now to hold on to your hate. I know I know you dont hate him. Great guy, good back up on another team.

  217. Bobby Says:

    13 starts as a rookie tells us very little about anyone really. It does tell us that he did very well with the weapons he had which were damn few. There will be excuses this year. We have plenty of weapons and if you can’t get the ball to one of the receivers we have then you just flat out suck. We don’t have the twin towers, we have an entire skyline. I hope teams blitz us this year because they will get burned over and over again.

  218. Couch Fan Says:

    Agreed there will be no excuses this year. Not from me anyways.

  219. Warthog Says:

    I don’t agree that Glennon is necessarily going to hold a clipboard the whole of 2014. I think it’s very likely he will be starting by week 10, when McCown has continued his career-long stretch of mediocrity. At that point I can see L+L throwing Glennon back in to be sure of what they have before the 2015 draft. Glennon will get his shot.

  220. GoBucYourself Says:

    I think it was smart that the Bucs didn’t waste a pick on any QBs. If they they had a chance for Bortles or Carr. Carr was not worth a #7 pick. He was taken right before the Bucs 2nd round pick. The Bucs had a great draft and nice round of USFA signings. Very excited about the upcoming season and eager to see what McCown can do. We went to a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson. Imagine if Johnson had the offensive weapons (potential) we have right now.

  221. BBFFC Says:

    Glennon may very we’ll get to play this year. He may do well. But the obvious fact is he is not the ideal qb’s style (mobility) Tedford is looking for. We clearly wanted another qb’s, either bortles,Carr,bridgewater, or JF). We let the world know to call us with offers for MG8! Hello!!!! When we didn’t get a top one of the qb’s, we pulled the trades off the table. Why? MG8 isn’t that bad and it’s crazy to not keep him as a backup compared to a lower round rookie with an older, risky qb’s experiment like McCown starting. That’s how it went down, but keep believing all the coach speak you want. Funny how coach speak is gospel when it agrees with your positions?

  222. Couch Fan Says:

    Lol Funny how people have to invent things in there head to continue there hope that we want to get rid of Glennon. Is it possible that we had nothing to do with anyone calling us about GLennon? Isn’t it very possible that teams took it upon themselves to call and find out if Glennon was on the trade block due to all the dumbass local media begging for Glennon to be traded? LOl

    No no of course none of that is possible. We just soooo want to get rid of him that we decided to keep him despite trade offers and despite having our choice of any QB we wanted except Bortles. Stupid is as stupid says.

    I hope you keep holding out hope that Glennon is gone. Next year you will also be disappointed and will give us more reasons to laugh at you.

  223. bucrightoff Says:

    Glennon was not available for trade. The Bucs of course are going to listen because who knows what someone could offer, but I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if the Bucs weren’t willing to trade him for less than a 1st round pick.

    I’d also be curious to know who was making the offers. If it was a bunch of teams with known QB developers, no doubt that made the Bucs think twice. If someone like a Ken Whisenhunt or Bruce Arians wants him, isn’t that a sign they think he can be very good? And as such, why trade him?

    And as to not “fitting” the offense, again as I mentioned before, we don’t know what the offense will look like. That Glennon is still here strongly suggests he fits it just fine. Or perhaps Tedford’s track record seems to suggest he’s not a set in stone guy, that he’s adaptable to his QB. Really the only true “mobile” QB he produced was mega-bust Akili Smith. Otherwise it’s guys who move in the pocket more than they are a threat to run (yes, even Aaron Rodgers, who prefers to stay in and pass than take off).

  224. mpmalloy Says:

    Joe,
    Is that the Fortress of the Mike Glennon Mob in the photo?

  225. Bucfever40 Says:

    Not attacking you Joe, your comments are really based on Glennon’s play from a year ago. I’m simply wondering if Glennon surprises us all, which I firmly believe he will, especially with these additions to our football team, do YOU have it in you, NOT to say that you were wrong, ’cause that doesn’t make ME feel any better, but could you change your view on him based on him being a much better, different QB than his ROOKIE season? Let’s say he earns a trip to the Pro Bowl (and deserves it)……could you defect, is it possible?

    Again……not attacking you Joe, just a relevant question I hope you answer.

  226. Oingo Boingo Says:

    Absolute morons…Brett Smith? ROFLMAO

  227. SuperGobaby Says:

    Wait a sec….Smith was All Mountain West Honorable Mention!

  228. lurker Says:

    “Wait a sec….Smith was All Mountain West Honorable Mention!”

    almost as good as the “offensive rookie qb of the year of crap qb’s taken third in the third round”.

  229. Answer Man Says:

    Huge difference between Mountain West
    and the NFL, lurker. Educate yourself.

  230. LWR Cas Says:

    Joe, Maybe Lovie brought in Josh to be the trainer for Glennon. He has said that Josh is an experienced teacher. Josh may be here to be an experienced starting QB with a lot of improved offensive weapons and protection to teach and guide Glennon’s development for the next couple of years, if it takes that long . They point out that Mike has the tools and the intelligence to be the future. It just may develop quicker than most folks think.

  231. JustNoOne Says:

    bucfan999 Says:
    May 10th, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    Joe…..You may censor what I wrote earlier but as you can see here I’m not the only person who reads what you write and come away with the impression that you totally hate Mike Glennon. If you have EVER wrote anything positive about him I haven’t seen it and I come to this site at least once a day so if you have they have been few and far between.

    Sir, Joe was POSITIVE about Glennon in this post, calling Glennon a strong backup and worth a third-round pick. –Joe

    ——-

    @Joe If what you wrote just above is positive then how would you like someone to refer to you as a strong back up reporter and as good as any other third rate news writer? Don’t think you would consider that very positive. Not even if a dog barked it or a self proclaimed commissioner declared it.

    You know what? If Joe were in his second year as a reporter and was a called a strong backup, or No. 2 man on a top beat, Joe would have been great with that. That’s not a bad thing. Most major newspaper beats in sports have No. 1 reporters and a No. 2 guy. In the reporting world, you work your way up through the ranks 90 percent of the time. So yes, Joe considers being called a strong backup in an exclusive field after a rookie year to be words of praise. Joe has written countless times that Glennon performed well in his role last year, given the situation. That doesn’t mean he’s got the talent you want to see in your starter. Joe has archives on this site. Feel free to avail yourself.–Joe

  232. Oingo Boingo Says:

    Joe, please scribble a treatise about Johnny Pigskin.

 
 

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