Chucky’s Dream Line Fading Away

March 8th, 2014

Today’s release of Davin Joseph has Joe reminiscing about the lost dreams of Chucky.

The Bucs’ Super Bowl–winning head coach set out to build a beastly offensive line with draft picks and big investments but it never materialized.

Chucky and Bruce Almighty drafted pals Jeremy Trueblood and Joseph in the first and second rounds, respectively, of the 2006 NFL Draft. They were going to anchor the right side of the O-line for a decade. In 2007, massive Arron Sears came in the second round to man the left guard spot. In 2008, the Bucs broke the bank to make Jeff Faine the highest paid center in the NFL while they drafted versatile Jeremy Zuttah in the third round. And all that surrounded some young guy named Donald Penn coming out of nowhere to grab the left tackle job in ’07, when free-agent signing Luke Petitgout went down four games into that season.

The Bucs appeared stacked for the present and the future. There were great games, but it never panned out. 

As the Bucs dive into free agency in a matter of hours, Joe is reminded of how hard it is to build a strong offensive line, let alone a strong team. Joe could spend another few paragraphs documenting how former rockstar general manager Mark Dominik couldn’t build a defensive line in his five seasons.

Joe’s pleased — and surely not surprised — to see that Lovie Smith and Jason Licht aren’t stuck in the past or lost in hope. What were the odds Joseph would bounce back to form he hadn’t shown in years?

49 Responses to “Chucky’s Dream Line Fading Away”

  1. Daffy Buc Says:

    Gruden was fired during a season when he was 9 – 3 after twelve games. Who wouldn’t want to go 9 – 3 after the last few years? Unfortunately they lost four in row in the fourth quarter and he was canned.

    Looking back they would have rather had near .500 teams, than the teams that gave up on their coaches. I didn’t see Gruden’s teams give up on him. They always played hard every game.

  2. Uncle Deadly Says:

    Defense fell apart b/c of Monte. Gruden got screwed.

  3. Andrew 1 Says:

    Gruden and Allen had no choice but to do a complete rebuild of our offensive line shortly after the super bowl season. It was a complete MESS at that time. I thought they did a good job because our O line definatly improved for many seasons after with all the resources they sunk into. Now, a decade later, its time to do another complete rebuild of the offensive line. I suspect Lovie and Licht will make that a top priority.

  4. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Andrew 1

    I’m with you, Gru Blessed us with some best line play we ever had.

  5. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Wished we would’ve been able to resign Roman Oben for a few more years. But hey, it is what it is.

  6. Bob Digital Says:

    The Aaron Sears story remains one for the ages. So much talent. Crazy how he just went crazy. Last I heard he was suing the Bucs.

  7. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    We need another swing tackle. That can give up quality play at LG/LT-the way Anthony Davis use to in a pinch.

  8. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Bobbie Digital-Good name..hahahaha

  9. Andrew 1 Says:

    On a separate note, Its an absolute tragedy what happened to Sears on personal level. I really hope he completely recovers. On the playing field, he was like a baby Nicks. Come to think of it, the LG position has been a revolving door ever since Sears left.

  10. louden Says:

    Wow, DavinJoseph was a good Buccaneer, wish him well.
    It realy seems like they will build sth. from the get go. Excited to see what happens.
    @Joe/Keith: Joe said, the Bucs shouldn´t trade Revis; but if he doesn´t play up to his contract (what isn´t realy possible), Joe wrote, they could trade him at the deadline – and that doesn´t make sense.
    think about Freeman fiasco.
    right now (because of good performance in pro bowl) Revis has high value. His health status isn´t much discussed.
    there are (by comparison) many suitors out there (bucs could even trade up in draft to get that QB if they want to).
    How many teams will be able to afford his contract in season?
    What if he doesn´t perform at elite level (again trade value drop off)?
    If re-injures (although doubtly) – Bucs would be srewed big time.
    As of right now (and because Revis trade to bucs didn´t make any sense at all – only a shianomik demon could have come up to that, with help of owners that just wanted to sell tickets/jerseys) – if you want to trade Revis (and it makes sense despite everything, because he won´t help us winning a superbowl in the near future) – you should do it now, when his trade value is at peak.
    he will get older and his knee won´t become any healthier.
    Cap + the 4th to 3rder and another 1st (this or next year) + what you can get is exactly what this team need NOW.
    short: Trade Revis.
    McCown for big money doesn´t make much sense too me neither..
    Hope they got a good plan (i like the new regime on paper ;-) but lets see what they do..)

  11. Macabee Says:

    Pat Yasinskas, ESPN, is reporting that Jeremy Zuttah is next!

    That’s not what he reported. –Joe

  12. You go Joe Says:

    One thing I hate is holding on to crappy players. Myron Lewis anyone?? True blood, that safety we waived last year, our TE. Joseph was not a crappy player, injuries and age got the best of him. He is still a great player, just not the person he was. Hopefully we still clean house and hopefully we get a guard to fill in his spot soon.

  13. RastaMon Says:

    OL =5
    DL = 4
    current starters
    picks in the 2014 Draft
    1st round
    2nd round
    4th round
    5th round
    7th round
    SF 49es have 4 picks……
    the debt is stillbeg paid forward for the Super Bowl Title
    trade up…give up…it is time t dig in an do the dirty work

  14. Manzielski Says:

    I don’t think Gruden got screwed. He got his ring. He was in the 1st year of a long term contract and he squeezed every nickel that he could out of it.

    Now he has a cushy gig on MNF, ESPN and gets to spend time with his family.

    What a deal!

  15. PRBucFan Says:

    Your right he reported that the whole line including Penn might be wiped clean.

  16. PRBucFan Says:

    Can’t even follow half these comments lol…

  17. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Yep

    @PRBucFan

    Wild question-Who would you rather have in a BUCS uniform:

    DT Ndamukong Suh or CB Darrell Revis?

  18. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Yeah, I started drinking early today. I think @Macabee said he started-Sounds like we all faded. Lets no get reckless though, So body put a look out on -Sunshine Skyway Bridge-Just incase Donald Penn gets cut-Who knows what Joe will do..lol

  19. PRBucFan Says:

    Revis, can’t stand Suh

  20. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I hear U

    So you would give up Possibly The Most Dominate Tandem Every Assembled at Tackle, just because you think the guy is a creep? Nah, I’m sure you would take, Suh Right? O well-Just a thought

  21. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I couldn’t imagine the fan buzz, and media coverage. Sh#t would be insane

  22. Couch Fan Says:

    I would take Suh over Revis in a heart beat. Not that I dont like Revis. But Suh next to McCoy? that’s just not even fair.

  23. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Couch Fan

    Opposing coaches would literally have nightmares-Because there’s no way you can game play for that. Especially if you have a few good edge rushers..smh-Its a wrap

  24. PRBucFan Says:

    It would be nice to have but you don’t leave you secondary in shambles with no depth just to have Suh who IMO is not as great as people make him out to be.

    I don’t like dirty players, will never root to have one become a Buc.

  25. PRBucFan Says:

    If Suh was as great as people make him out to be he would be much more dominating with the players he has along side him in Detroit and it realy hasn’t ended up so.

  26. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Granted you would have to give both SUH & GMC extension, therefore at least getting some cap relief on GMC deal. You also would have to you the additional $30-$35 Million wisely on defensive+Draft well. But Wow-Just a thought!

  27. PRBucFan Says:

    Anywho lol, why are we talking about this?

    lol Get back to drinking sir ;)

  28. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @PRBucFan

    Nah, he the real deal. I’ve watched ‘em, when he’s motivate to win- Ain’t been many like ‘em…Ever! Paired next GMC..smh Wow!!

  29. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Donkeykong Suh is an idiot, but he’s a pretty good player. It’s that teammate if his Nick Fairley I can’t stand. Dirtiest player in the SEC not too long ago.

  30. PRBucFan Says:

    Suh was voted dirtiest player by his peers 2 years in a row

  31. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @PRBucFan

    Some kind of Miracle he’s paired with Gerald-He one become one of most feared..Yes Sirrrr

  32. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *He would become one of most feared..Yes Sirrrr

  33. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Hey @Macabee ramblings about FS Jairus Byrd- has grown some legs#Interesting

  34. PRBucFan Says:

    We have much more to upgrade before we dream about unrealistic pairings ;)

    I’d be ashamed to have such a dirty player in a Bucs uni lol

  35. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @PRBucFan

    Hey we just shooting the breeze-Would be a great pairing tho, hopefully better than (F.Thomas/A.Bell.smh)

  36. Macabee Says:

    Joe,

    Here’s where I got the Yasinskas/Zuttah story @ RotoWorld. In my post I should have said Zuttah might be next. Is the RotoWorld report incorrect?

    Jeremy Zuttah – C – Buccaneers

    ESPN Bucs reporter Pat Yasinskas reports C Jeremy Zuttah’s roster spot could be in danger.

    Zuttah has started all 32 games the past two seasons and can also play both guard spots. He has two years left on a four-year, $16.3 million deal. The Bucs can clear Zuttah’s entire $4.5 million cap hit without any dead money hits if they choose to release him. Zuttah, 28 in June, is merely an average talent.

    Source: ESPN.com

    Mar 8 – 3:19 PM

    “Could be in danger” could apply to half the roster. –Joe

  37. NY Buc Says:

    getting rid of Zuttah after just releasing Josheph seems like a questionable decision to me. Guy isn’t great, but versatile and not terribly expensive for a guy who can step in at center or guard.

    GM/coach had better have a good replacement plan for the guys they’re letting go and have a winning season this year, or it won’t be long before the fire Lovie signs appear or Licht starts being called ‘rookie GM’ by angry fans.

  38. Andrew 1 Says:

    Please, lets not get rid of Zuttah. I know I said we need to completely rebuild the o line, but lets at least leave someone on the roster!!! Penn and Nicks are the ones that need to be looking over their shoulders imo. Nicks, with his injury settlement, its a hairy situation, but I still expect something to be done. Penn is in the most danger if you ask me. He has a cap hit of 8 mil, and our new Regime is not afraid to make a bold move, like just cutting Joseph outright without even trying to restructure his contract. Still, I’m glad our o line has the undivided attention of our staff, it really needs it.

  39. BigMacAttack Says:

    Davin was a great guy but was either injured or unable to block since the day he came here. Maybe the rookie knee injury was too much to regain college form. Good luck to him but this needed to be done a long time ago. If Penn is upset about then ship him out too.

  40. Macabee Says:

    Can’t win an argument in Joe’s house so never going to start one. I concede that Joe may be right that half the roster could be in danger. But I concede knowing that while that may be true, an indisputable fact is the author of this piece found reason to single out Zuttah and not half the roster.

    With that I retreat to continue my dalliance with the spirits barreled and distributed by Jack Daniel Distillery. lol

  41. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ Macabee

    lol. cheers.

  42. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Damn nothing new..lol

  43. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    The Chicago Tribune reports the Buccaneers are making a “hard push” to sign free agent DE Michael Johnson

  44. North Cackalacky Girl Says:

    Chucky’s dream faded the minute he purged the roster of our quality old men… NFL or not… Our fans loved them… Make moves like that and you better win (it all, or at least close) to cure the pain… He didn’t

  45. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ LUVMYBUCS

    Michael Johnson is an interesting prospect. He’s got all the physical tools, but hasnt done much with it in the past couple of years. But sh!t, if the bucs think hes got it, then go get him. I’m to loaded to debate this lol. I trust our new guys.

  46. Mumbles Says:

    LUV,

    Brad Biggs first reported Bucs are going hard after Michael Johnson. Now Rick Stroud is reporting it. Hope we get our man!

  47. Architek Says:

    Rick Stroud tweeted Bucs pursuing DE Michael Johnson hard!!!!

  48. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Andrew 1

    Yeah Me 2-I started tossing ‘em back early-Buc’it-its the weekend!

  49. Brandon Says:

    Jon Gruden might have been one of the worst evaluators of talent in NFL history. His draft record was an absolute joke, his free agent signings (anybody remember giving Charlie Garner one year year and one million dollars more per year than the Bears eventually gave Thomas Jones?) were atrocious and short-sighted at best.

    The man could coach and motivate…but he is the prime architect of the mess we are looking at now..six straight drafts of having almost nothing to show for it..that takes its toll on a team. Dominik was average at best as a drafter and his free agent signings and trades were horrible and couldn’t make up for the hole Gruden put us in.

 
 

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