Too Much Power

January 7th, 2014

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Joe has written several stories about new Bucs coach Lovie Smith and his unprecedented power over football operations. Joe thinks this is one reason Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik was asked to clear out his desk: Lovie didn’t want interference from Dominik; he wanted his own man.

Well, Pat Yasinskas lauds the recent moves of the Bucs, including the hire of Lovie, but the ESPN Bucs beat writer is uncomfortable with Lovie wielding as much power as Bill Belicheat with the Patriots, sans the resume of Belicheat (or many other top coaches).

I’ve covered a variety of setups through the years. But the two most successful were coach Tony Dungy and general manager Rich McKay in Tampa Bay, and coach John Fox and general manager Marty Hurney in Carolina. In both situations, there was an equal partnership.

Dungy and McKay used to like to say their choices never came down to a final say because they always reached a consensus that included input from other members of the coaching staff and front office. Hurney and Fox used to say that they disagreed on a fair amount of things. When they didn’t see eye to eye on an option, they didn’t take it. Instead, they would go with another option that both were content with.

Joe is very much on board with Yasinskas here. As Joe wrote yesterday, checks and balances are healthy for any organization whether it’s the federal government, the bar on the corner or the Bucs.

Look, Mike McCarthy answers to a general manager. Jim Harbaugh answers to a front office man. So, too, does his brother John in Baltimore. And Mike Tomlin. And Sean Payton.

Nothing against Lovie at all. He wowed Joe yesterday. But let’s be honest, the Harbaugh boys, McCarthy, Tomlin and Payton have more pelts on the wall than Lovie.

91 Responses to “Too Much Power”

  1. Gus Says:

    Last I checked Jim Harbaugh and Lovie have the same amount of super bowl rings……

  2. Yusef A Taufiq Says:

    no one has any idea how this front office is gonna work yet…all this is speculation and to be honest this is stupid..how do we know that the GM and Lovie wont have a equal partnership? goodness Joe, why are we all jumping the gun here? its unfair to assume lovie will be a certain way, when we have no clue… GO BUCS!!!!!!!! :D

  3. Diehard_Bob Says:

    From what I can tell so far I think everyone is making way too much of the news that Lovie will have the final say on personnel decisions. It seems like every time he has been asked about it he makes some kind of statement about working as a group, or team, or family when making decisions affecting the team. I even heard him mention that he is looking forward to working with the new GM to evaluate players. It sounds to me like the main thing is that he will have the power to veto a decision on signing or releasing a player if the decision is not unanimous. I have no problem with that because it’s his job on the line if they don’t succeed. He just said on PFT that he is a head coach and that is what his daily duties will consist of and having the ability to make a final decision about personnel is not going to change the job he has to do.

  4. PRBucFan Says:

    Can a drum be beaten any harder? SmH

    Oh wells, this isn’t a power hungry man, he’s said openly that he will be making decisions along with his GM and staff.

    He said himself too much is being said about it and that he will have the same say about his roster as he always had.

  5. Jojo white Says:

    Hey you guys are making this a big deal about Lovie having too much power, the GM we had had power and we have not made the playoffs in years,, so let’s see what happens, Joe love your site have a great day

    Say hi to Bill Cowens. –Joe

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The two Joes….sharing power at JBF….sure
    Bill Gates….sharing power
    Stece Jobs …..shared power

    Yea…..the Federal Government works great with its checks & balance.

    Dom & Raheem Shared Power
    Dom & Schiano Shared Power

    Two-headed fish stinking together.

    We don’t need checks & balances….we need competence.

  7. JonBuc Says:

    Two things that work in Lovie’s favor here IMO:

    1) he’s a good & decent man and seems more than willing to listen to others
    2) having last year off to evaluate things as a “3rd party” observer will no doubt serve him well. I for one am glad he isn’t coming straight off a firing.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Yea…..the Federal Government works great with its checks & balance.
    Being Sarcastic!!!

  9. bucs4lyfe Says:

    Please media types let it go….he has control over the final 53 man roster, he didn’t say anything about bringing talent in which im sure he would have players in mind but thats a job for the GM. gm and coach and staff always sit down and evaluate who stays and goes not one man…duh it’s called hard knocks

    this set up is irrevelant, we can win more games not changing a single man on this roster simply because lovie can actually coach, so what he has control but the glazers are still hiring the gm so that what people need to worry about. he clearly stated his job is to coach, why would you go out of your way to do things you cant possibly do…he is a coach and thats what he will focus on, not contracts, not bringing in this guy or that guy, he will focus on coaching who we have in the building…..it’s comical because these are the same people who were applauding schiano for cleaning up bucs locker room (purging it of talent) but afraid to say that once he did that he had no clue what to do next

    god lord the age of overreacting and guessing people’s words…it is so unbearable in sports, as long as he wins how much power he has is irrevelant he is a proven winner PERIOD, no need to go comparing him to other coaches with championships, glazers plan probably was to bring in someone with no experience that they are familiar with anyway just like mark dominick, i wouldnt want that guy over me either…

  10. biff barker Says:

    Lovie has won as much as the Glazer Boys have.
    Nothing.
    Now they are bass ackwards again by hiring a coach and acquiescing powers that are never assigned to coaches of Lovie’s tenure. We needed a strong GM to assemble a coaching staff and scouting staff. (Dom’s personal Waterloo)
    Now we have a Head Coach who assembled a team prior to his arrival. In reality, the Glazer’s decision has pretty much compromised the pool of capable GM’s because, quite frankly, it’s a lesser job.
    Epic thinking outside the bun folks…

  11. StAugBuc Says:

    @ TBBF:
    Bravo!

  12. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    Joe – I’ve been singing the same song for a while now. Nothing personal against Lovie. I’m cool with him as coach. But the Glazers are not following a successful business model here. On the contrary, this formula has never worked in any sport, at least not consistently. Worries me big time.

  13. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    Biff nailed it.

  14. biff barker Says:

    PRBuc fan,

    Whom are you referring to?

  15. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Long live the King!

    Joe, I have never made a request to your site, Unless you count when i wanted the name changed from JoeBucsFan to JoeDominickFan. But can we somehow get a picture of Lovie with a Crown and Scepter. Make it happen!

  16. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The Glazers probably had no good choice in the matter….if they wanted Lovie…they couldn’t let him out of the room without a deal he couldn’t refuse. If they wanted the “strong GM” first they probably wouldn’t have gotten the coach they were comfortable with.
    The odds were they would go with someone they were familiar with.
    I think things will work themselves out. Lovie doesn’t seem like the dogmatic type.
    If he’s the right person for the job…then none of this matters.

  17. Thegregwitul Says:

    Some of you fans are delirious and overreact to everything. First it was the Revis nonsense, with many people calling for his release (!) before playing a down of football for Lovie Smith, and now it’s back to the coach. Hello, people, do we really want five more years of Raheem Morris / Greg Schiano with Mark Dominik at the helm?

    The last five years were a failure; Josh Freeman imploded, Dominik was hit and miss with his free agent signings, the coaches were second rate from an NFL perspective and now we are going crazy because Lovie Smith will have final say over the roster? C’mon, man. I think it was Bill Parcells who famously said that the man in charge of cooking the dinner should be able to pick out the groceries (I’m paraphrasing). Give Lovie a chance.

    The man was out of football for a year, and during that time he prepared for his return. I am confident that he will make the necessary changes to bring success back to Tampa Bay. Call me a fanboy all you want, but I have no problem with Lovie having final say over the roster. This isn’t a dictator or ego maniac, this is an even keeled coach who will utilize the resources available to him to make the team a success. I’m tired of four win seasons that result in the seventh pick in the draft. I want to see this team fighting for a playoff spot. The talent is there, but let’s give the man a change to put his roster together and draft his players. Who knows, we might be surprised (in a good way), when all is said and done.

  18. biff barker Says:

    TBBF,

    Nice post. Competence is the key word here. Ironic it is that he owners are the only constant left in the equation. We needed a Rich McKay type as President od Football Operations. The most successful people I’ve encountered all have the ability to hire competence as opposed to “play one on TV”.

  19. PRBucFan Says:

    It’s pretty hilarious Gregwitful

    Lovie made it very very very clear that “nothing has changed”

    As he stated it.

    He won’t be making decisions alone

  20. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Buc Realist

    Where have you been….your “Pop Star” is gone…..so now you can join the rest of us and have something else to post.

    Please tell us who your choice for GM is now so we can root for him to be hired. (No GM bashing for at least a year,please)

  21. PRBucFan Says:

    What’s truly funny is that no amount of whining is going to change anything.

    What’s done is done, deal.

  22. stevek Says:

    I’d rather our roster be entrusted with Lovie, than with Dominick.

    Joe- Bet you that Lovie Smith gets us a DE that can get 10+ sacks, and he won’t let them walk for peanuts either….

    We are back!

  23. Buc1987 Says:

    Thegregwitul…too many years of losing has Buc fans bitching at every turn.

  24. Brandon Says:

    Charles Tillman, Henry Melton, Matt Forte, Alshon Jeffery, Lance Briggs, Devin Hester were all drafted by Lovie (not sure about Briggs) and all made all-pro under Lovie. He might have never been able to assemble a good OLine in Chicago, but he assembled a ver impressive cast otherwise.

    Offense attracts audiences, defense wins championships. I think the eventual NFC Champs will prove it.

  25. Buc1987 Says:

    TBBF…you forgot to remind the realist that your not one of the people that calls him an idiot.

    Man your slacking…

  26. passthebuc Says:

    The problem with having the last word is

    its the last word.

  27. PRBucFan Says:

    Again, he couldn’t say it any clearer, “nothing has changed”

  28. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Biff Barker

    Its been my experience that when you have Ownership that is somewhat distant and the entity is not their direct area of expertise….it is better for them to have one person they can count on for decision making….otherwise, if there is a conflict it falls on them and perhaps they don’t know what they are doing. Confusion everywhere…..
    I suspect that this was happening with Dominick & Schiano over Freeman (perhaps Bennett) and other matters…..maybe even Revis….the Glazers may have made some of these calls.

  29. Bulldog Says:

    I’ts Lovie’s job to coach and it’s little joe’s job to drive traffic to his site.

    Joe’s opinion on the Bucs’ division of power doesn’t drive anyone to this website. Leave the blogging to Joe. The only model to this site is Joe writes about what Joe finds interesting. –Joe

  30. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    @Tampabaybucfan

    If I was Lovie, I would hold a press conference as the Head Coach, Answer all questions, Then I would tell the audience it is the GM’s time to speak, I would then put a Sock Puppet on my hand, and talk from the side of my mouth. I would then take questions as all GM questions be pointed at the Sock Puppet.

  31. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ 87

    Joe really knows how to stoke the fires….we don’t have a GM to complain about so we complain about the “possibility” of a HC with too much power.
    I don’t know if he really liked Dominick or just liked having him for the multiple posts he got from the Buc Realist….

    What “fires.” Lovie has a great resume. It’s just not great on the personnel side. Joe’s not inventing stuff here. –Joe

  32. PRBucFan Says:

    Considering that’s not who Lovie is

    You sound foolish

    I really hope you don’t share that view TBBF, I expect much more from you lol

  33. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Realist

    Or…you could do the Clint Eastwood “empty chair” and ask it questions.
    The bad thing about the Tampa press is that they would ask it questions also…..

  34. Patrick Says:

    Dominik sucked. His F’K ups far outweighed his hits. Drafting Freeman alone was a good enough reason for him to be axed. In the end, 28-52 is what matters here. We weren’t winning. Happy trails Dom.

  35. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ PR

    Confused by your post….share what view?

  36. PRBucFan Says:

    The whole “love has too much power”, “The GM will be his sock puppet” view lol

  37. Buc1987 Says:

    In other news Mark Dominik’s application at the McDonald’s on Dale Mabry got rejected.

  38. PRBucFan Says:

    The foolish part was directed to the other poster lol not you TBBF haha

  39. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    That’s not my view…..its Joe’s and the Realist…..read some of my earlier posts on this article…they are very clear that I think it is OK for him to have plenty of power….I actually don’t like the whole idea of “shared power” when you have owners that are’nt real savy!!!

  40. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    @Patrick

    stop being so negative, Maybe we should work on something constructive. Like the new theme campain for the Bucs Campaign for next year. Like a ” the Buc stops here!” on a 100ft Sign of Lovies face. ( wearing sunglasses of course )

  41. Couch Fan Says:

    Get use to it. We are going to be hearing about this all off-season long.

  42. PRBucFan Says:

    Just making sure lol

  43. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Now the Buc Realist wants to stop the negativity…..until he has another GM to pick on.

  44. Buc1987 Says:

    Love Is All You Need.

  45. PRBucFan Says:

    Or the Slogan can be

    “Some Buc Fans will bitch regardless”

  46. Solinor Says:

    Ok Joe we get it. You don’t like the hire. Andy Reid walked into the same situation and turned his team from last to playoffs. I believe Lovie can do that here.

    Joe has no problem with the hire whatsoever. Please don’t make stuff up. –Joe

  47. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    being negative and telling the truth are two different things.

  48. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Maybe the Glazer Brothers are “sharing power…checking and balancing”….maybe that’s where all these decisions were born.

    Hey….lets fire Tony Dungy….
    Hey….lets fire Jon Gruden….
    Hey….lets hire Raheem Morris
    Hey….lets hire Greg Schiano

    Probably had to flip a coin

  49. Que589 Says:

    Joe

    Tomlin, Payton, McCarthy or the Harbaugh Boys didn’t have the credentials / resume as HC prospects that Lovie has. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Why does the media avoids Seattle’s front office model when talking about this topic (organizational structure)?

  50. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    @tampabaybucfan

    lol, I heard they had a “Glazer wheel of Fortune”

  51. Couch Fan Says:

    It’s my way or the cry way.

  52. Eric Says:

    Big non issue.

  53. PRBucFan Says:

    Realist why don’t you head up the “Some Buc Fans will bitch regardless” campaign?

  54. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Can’t we all just get along?….do we need the BucsFansSuck to come back and rally us?

    Remember that guy?…..is he now the “White Tiger”

    White Tiger hasn’t been back since Joe gave him a major beatdown about a stupid post a few days ago….Where are you White Tiger?….we need you and Lurker’s negativity to have fun.

  55. Couch Fan Says:

    @TBBF

    Before that, he threatened to leave, maybe he actually did leave this time?

  56. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    same reason why i will not argue with anyone on these “comments ” . Cant talk sense to the senseless. Besides, who is B!T@hing here.

  57. PRBucFan Says:

    White Tiger

    AKA Ms.Cleo

    AKA FreeFanBoi

  58. PRBucFan Says:

    When all someone does is complain regardless of the decisions made, that indeed qualifies as B!T@hing as you so eloquently put it.

  59. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    If Lovie can bring over Tillman & Allen….perhaps McCown so Glennon can have some competiton/mentor… draft Sammy Watkins….pick up a FA TE and heal Nicks’ toe..and motivate Bowers
    Who cares how much power he has?

  60. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    This is fun….lets have lots of “Lovie has too much power” articles…..they sure beat “why did we let Michael Bennett go?” and Shwun King advice columns.

    “Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”

  61. Couch Fan Says:

    I’m just happy we wont be arguing about Freeman all off-season. Lol

  62. Eric Says:

    The way Lovie described the kind of team he wants made me think of Ravens, Steelers or Giants.

    Maybe an up and comer from one of those places for GM.

    All physical defensive and power running teams. With good QB’s also.

  63. PRBucFan Says:

    I’m glad I ended up being on the winning side of the Freeman offseason long debate lol

  64. PRBucFan Says:

    I think Chris Ballard would be a great great hire

  65. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    As everyone knows, I have voices MANY reservations regarding the moves so far. So, Joe, I understand where you are coming from.

    Today, instead of making a lot of assumptions like many are doing on both sides of the argument, I decided to dig around and find out as much as I could without going by what the media says, but by what direct information has been put out there.

    Pat Y. is operating as I was as short a time as yesterday. I felt it was too much power as well. And it IS odd that a HC gets to choose his own GM from the get-go. Gruden got his own, but not immediately.

    I’ve listened to every word Lovie has uttered that I could find.

    As I said, I’ve voiced my concerns, however, I am slowly coming around. There are plenty of people living in a fantasy world because they want the Bucs of old. It isn’t going to happen. Ever. Again.

    However, there are also plenty of people that are close-minded. And plenty of people who want to support things, but have to be convinced. I suppose I reside in the third group.

    Lovie Smith is not Tony Dungy. He is a connection to Tony, but he isn’t him. People who expect things to be exactly the same will be disappointed.

    By the same token, Lovie clearly took a year long look at himself, his methods, and ways to avoid the past mistakes. Such as offense.

    Those skeptics that remain, I urge you to listen to all of his interviews, his presser and anything else that features direct access to the Bucs organization. Don’t bother with the media, because they are making their own assumptions as well.

    Am I sold yet? Not completely, but I’m about 20% more sold than I was yesterday. The GM hire will hopefully bring me even closer.

  66. PRBucFan Says:

    I don’t want Dungy

    I want Lovie

  67. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ PR

    Yea…

    Freeman is history, gone, departed, terminated, through, finished, vanished, elsewhere, SYONARA, ADIOS, AU-REVOIR, Auf WIEDERSHEN, CHEERIO, ADJO, ANTIO, DO SVIDANIYA, HASTA LA VISTA, BYE-BYE…. SO LONG Of course, Schiano would say CAIO!!!

  68. Couch Fan Says:

    @PR

    Lol, actually there is no real winner to that debate. There is no doubt that Freeman not being the Franchise has set us back a few years.

    BUT we were right about him.

  69. K_bassuka Says:

    I remember when Chucky wanted to draft Adrian Peterson and was overruled by the guy that had all the time in the world and knows more about personnel than the coach, who was tha HoF that we ended drafting that year? Oh yeah, bless his soul… Why does all this analyst act like the GM never make mistakes?

    Just let’s see how this turn out before worrying about it..

  70. PRBucFan Says:

    LoL ;)

  71. Couch Fan Says:

    Glad your coming around Bonzai.

    I am just hoping for the best and trusting that the Glazers and Lovie know what they are doing. As a fan, I really dont have any other choice except to root for another team but thats not me. It’s a Bucs life for me til the day I die.

  72. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ BuccaneerBonzai

    Bucs of old….is that why The A-Train was at One Buc?

    Are there any truths to the rumers that Ronde want’s to come out of retirement…..and Lynch….and Sapp?

  73. Bucfan#37 Says:

    After reading and hearing the info so far about Lovie’s return as Bucs head coach, I like the hire and position coaches. The Bucs were always a defensive oriented team. Tedford will succeed in advancing Glennon’s play. Healed injuries and the draft will add depth. Lovie did not commit to Glennon as his starter, but I believe he knows he will be the starting QB.

  74. Macabee Says:

    Joe gave all of us a view as to how top-level decisions are made at the Bucs. Remember when Freeman was benched. It was a decision that neither Schiano or Dominik could make alone.

    There is power and there is unbridled power. Lovie has been given limited power as it should be. But the real decisions that matter of any great significance, personnel or otherwise, will always be made by a Glazer.

    Go to sleep, we’re in good hands!

    http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=97009

  75. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Hey Brothas!!! I can’t wait to see the rest of the coaching staff assembled. Any word on any potential moves in that dept.?

  76. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai…I’m in the I’ve learned my lesson category. There is really no need to get all riled up over Lovie and expect big things, when we’ve yet to see him on the sidelines yet or the product on the field. I have changed my position on getting too excited for next season. Just like when the Bucs went 0-7 I gave up and expected them to lose every week. That’s how it is for me Lovie or whoever. I’m just going to expect them to lose from now on. If they win they win all the while better. I guess what this Buc fan is trying to say is. I’m not expecting much.

    I’m also throwing out everything he did in Chicago as well.

  77. Patrick in VA Says:

    Had a thought I wanted to put out there to football minds sharper than mine here at jbf. last year there was a good deal made about how disrespectful schiano was to refs and what a pain he was to work with. Does anyone else feel as I do that now that we have a well respected coach that knows how to foster good relationships that we won’t find ourselves on the bad end of a lot of questionable calls this coming year? I know it’s off topic but i’m not sure a post will come up that applies

  78. crazy Says:

    Too much power? Maybe, but it’s increasingly clear the brothers have been making or “signing off on” the big decisions for a while now. Let’s see who fills the GM chair and how much experience he brings. Who knows, we may even learn the GM’s already in the front office. Whatever happened to Scott Cohen (?) they brought in from the Jets last year?

  79. Pruritus Ani Says:

    ‘Patrick in VA Says:
    January 7th, 2014 at 7:44 pm
    Had a thought I wanted to put out there to football minds sharper than mine here at jbf. last year there was a good deal made about how disrespectful schiano was to refs and what a pain he was to work with. Does anyone else feel as I do that now that we have a well respected coach that knows how to foster good relationships that we won’t find ourselves on the bad end of a lot of questionable calls this coming year? I know it’s off topic but i’m not sure a post will come up that applies”

    I think you have a valid point. In my opinion, the Glaziers probably felt whatever good will and positive image we had around the league was lost with these senseless penalties, the victory formation stunts and other things. I think man of Schiano’s actions poisoned the well. But back to the original post.. I think they are giving him too much power in lieu of a GM. At this point, considering all the decisions appear to have been made, the GM (whoever it is) will do what? It would appear he would just be a figurehead as all the power seems to have been given to Smith. While he has had decent, but not spectacular success a coach, I am unaware how this qualifies him to handle both roles.

  80. Buc1987 Says:

    Patrick in Va…good point and you might be right. Although I don’t think that Lovie can prevent the refs from targeting Goldson. That’s already a done deal.

    After this past season. I’m definitely not one of the sharper football minds. So as far as I’m concerned Schiano ruined me too.

  81. Capt. Tim Says:

    Lovie has said he will work with GM.
    No problems here
    As optimistic about this hire, as I was pessimistic about last hire.

    I bet I don’t spend all spring screaming that we need a Slot Reciever and TE, like I did last spring. Lovie is a proven commodity. He has leaned from his Chicago experience- and has brought in a very good offensive mind in Tedford.

    This coach knows the game at the Pro level, and I think may well think he has his QB. Either way, he will steer the ship in the right direction.

    Finally feel comfortable and relaxed about the teams leadership.
    And no question of ” authority boundries” is disturbing me.

    To quote the Eagles, I have a “peaceful, easy feeling” for the first time in a decade.

  82. PRBucFan Says:

    “At this point, considering all the decisions appear to have been made”

    Huh? Like what? Lovie is picking “his” coaches what decision has been made a gm should make instead?

    The Glazers will be picking the GM as Lovie has states on numerous occasions now and the choices will be made between the two of them and the rest of their staff.

    If it were a man like Schiano that was a total control freak, I would worry.

    But this is Lovie who seeks the counsel and opinion of his guys

  83. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Speaking of Old School…Looks like Hardy is our new LB coach…

  84. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    PRBucFan Says
    “The Glazers will be picking the GM…”

    Actually, Lovie is picking his GM. He said during his presser that he had a specific person in mind, and the same with the Special Teams coordinator.

    Patrick, no doubt the refs targeted us, but don’t blame it all on Schiano. Goldson played a huge role ine that as well.

  85. Buc1987 Says:

    Scotty THAT is outstanding news. I’m trying not to get riled up over all this, but I really like Hardy Nickerson. What a GREAT choice.

  86. PRBucFan Says:

    Actually he said multiple times and during his presser the Glazers will be picking the GM he said he had a special teams coordinator in mind.

    Go back and listen again

  87. PRBucFan Says:

    Anyways,

    There are articles about it, just google Glazers will hire general manager

  88. PRBucFan Says:

    “We don’t have a general manager in place yet,” Lovie Smith said on Monday. “Once our owners decide who, exactly, will be in that role, I look forward to getting with them and making decisions together that are going to lead us to a championship.”

  89. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    “El Dragón is back”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

  90. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Now all we gotta do is draft James Wilder Jr (Legacy Pick) in the later rounds, and we all can get real nostalgia..hahaha

  91. MTM Says:

    Oh my god there not a GM yet and Lovie has his staff almost completely hired. This will be an utter disaster. Because the last GM and coach(s) did such a wonderful job. This has been one of the smoothest coaching transitions. Give it a rest and yes I’m drinking the Kool-Aid.

 
 

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