Jeff Tedford’s Offense

January 3rd, 2014
jeff tedford

His offenses weren’t NFL compatible

Joe remembers watching some of new Bucs offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford’s offenses years ago, specifically when Cal was relevant and one of the better (then) PAC-10 programs. Joe recalls he ran sort of an early version of a spread offense.

In later years, Cal fell off the map and Tedford lost his head coaching gig a year ago. Joe’s research leads him to believe Tedford was delegating too much authority to assistants (play-calling, recruiting) and that is why Cal dropped — and why Cal dropped Tedford.

 

Joe has read that Tedford’s offenses were complex. Not sure Joe buys that. There is only so much a college kid can absorb in a handful of years where his football time is strictly regulated by NCAA rules. In the NFL, that’s not an issue.

For example, when Bill Callahan took Chucky’s offense to Nebraska, it was an abject failure. Joe has been told that Chucky’s offense was so complex, it often took an NFL starting quarterback a couple of seasons if not three to fully absorb it. You can’t expect a college kid to learn that offense in (sometimes) a shorter period of time.

This is why Chucky’s best quarterbacks were NFL veterans. Their learning curve was much shorter.

Tedford’s offense worked. In college. When he had the right recruits. But his list of former students is a frightening blend of busts and horrific NFL quarterbacks that should sober excited Bucs fans’ behavior.

Trent Dilfer
David Carr
Akili Smith
Joey Harrington
Kyle Boller
Aaron Rodgers
A.J. Feeley

That’s just a horrific list, like a string of quarterbacks coming from some bad football-related Friday-The-13th-like flick. The fact the Bucs hired an offensive coordinator who boasts Kyle Boller as a prized pupil makes Joe want to grab a bottle of Stoli and begin chugging.

Joe will share a story he heard Super Bowl-winning quarterback and CBS NFL analyst Phil Simms tell about Aaron Rodgers to Adam Schein on SiriusXM NFL Radio earlier this year. Joe did not transcribe the conversation, so this is paraphrasing.

Simms talked about going to Packers training camp when Rodgers was a rookie. He said Rodgers’ terrible mechanics and weak arm shocked him and Simms couldn’t believe he was a first round draft pick and was certain Rodgers would have no successful future in the NFL.

The next season, Simms again went to Packers training camp and he was studying Brett Farve and Simms said out of the corner of his eye, he saw a quarterback race out of the pocket and fire a bullet to a receiver well downfield, hitting him on the numbers. Simms let out an audible “Wow!” 

He turned to a Packers staffer and asked who that was. When he learned it was Rodgers, he couldn’t believe it. Simms said it was as if he was watching a totally different player who had dramatically smoothed out his mechanics and developed arm strength within a year.

As with many things, it’s not all black and white with Tedford. To this day, Joe thinks Harrington was a drop-back, pocket passer, and when Detroit drafted him, Steve Mariucci tried to force him to be a west coast quarterback and that ruined Harrington for good.

Joe had many of the same reservations about Akili Smith as he had for Josh Freeman: a one-hit, one-year wonder that couldn’t put his team on his back.

Joe thought that Carr was a good quarterback, but he had zero line playing in front of him and he simply got beaten to such a pulp, that Carr turned gun shy and mentally never recovered.

From what Joe remembers from watching Tedford years ago and studying Tedford recently, Joe believes Tedford simply ran a gimmick offense that was laced with just enough spread option that it never translated to NFL offenses at the time. Nobody was running any form of a spread back then.

Joe remembers a couple of months ago talking to someone who made his living with the NFL draft about quarterbacks (the same guy told Joe Johnny Football was the “real deal.”) Joe asked this man about Marcus Mariota, Oregon’s gifted quarterback. The same source thought he had the tools to be a solid pick. When Joe asked him if the Oregon offense was just a gimmick offense that wouldn’t translate into the NFL, thus Mariota would implode, Joe’s source said, “Well, yeah, there’s that.”

Until Joe can do further research, it seems that Tedford’s offense just didn’t translate into the NFL offenses of the day. His college quarterbacks needed to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed and that didn’t always work. There are many coaches who ran exotic offenses who had highly-drafted quarterbacks who never panned out. Steve Spurrier and Hal Mumme spring to mind, so it wasn’t just Tedford whose quarterbacks rarely mastered the NFL.

Just because a quarterback shines in a specific offense doesn’t mean he can equal that success running another type of offense.

82 Responses to “Jeff Tedford’s Offense”

  1. JSmalls Says:

    Fire Tedford!

  2. Hrvoje Says:

    Exactly. Everybody points out how many of his qb’s were busts. Well, nobody wants to say that how were those QB’s first round picks? Tedford made them play better than they really were. I hope he can do the exactly same thing here.

  3. Matt Says:

    I think this article is missing the fact that all of his college quarterbacks made the nfl. He had to be doing something right.

  4. Patrick in VA Says:

    Let’s get him out of town and not give him a chance to screw it up. Pretty sure Lovie’s an idiot and doesn’t know how to put a staff together. Let’s blow this thing up and start over again.

  5. Z-BucFan Says:

    Am I the only one getting flash backs to the Jeff Jagodzinski experience?

  6. k_bassuka Says:

    Lol. The NFL has changed and offenses are more wide open than in years past. Regardless we have a strong enough HC that we can go by without a top of the line QB as long as the running game works as expected… the future is bright…

  7. RastaMon Says:

    Tedford needs this speed WR that will be playing for Missouri tonight
    L’Damian Washington
    6’4
    205
    4.3+

  8. clafollett Says:

    The ending to your story doesn’t fill me with warm fuzzies on this chilly Tampabay morning. I sure hope he isn’t planning to come here and run a gimmick offense.

  9. Nick2 Says:

    The spread is alot more ready for the NFL than when Spurrier was in the league. That is a horrific list of quarterbacks but the converse theory is that Tedford made lemonade out of lemons. In other words he got terrific production out of quarterbacks with limited skills. That sounds right up Glennons alley if you ask me LOL….

  10. Patrick in VA Says:

    @Nick2 – Thank you. Seems like any rational person would see that he took players that may not be that great and made them better. That’s how good coaching works. When all of the players we had on the roster this year left and went somewhere else and did great everyone said it was because Schiano couldn’t coach them properly. Tedford coached those kids into looking like superstars. First round level talent. Really they were mediocre at best. I’d love to have Tedford paint Glennon to look like Marino even if we’ve seen that he may not be that in reality

  11. Buc Neckid Says:

    Wait a minute
    The fact that we recognize those names on that list IS relevant.
    They were all highly touted COLLEGE Quarterbacks coming INTO the NFL.
    The fact that some failed in the NFL should not be seen a direct reflection on Tedford but more a sign that they were productive under his guidance.

  12. BirdDoggers Says:

    I don’t know what to make of Tedford. He was able to put QBs in a position to succeed at the college level. How does that translate to him being able to run an offense at the pro level? Not sure. Gimmicky offenses don’t usually work in the NFL. It comes down to getting the right QB to run an offense that can consistently produce.

  13. pewterpirate99 Says:

    Guys lets give this guy a chance. I mean he hasn’t even been introduced and already some of you are hating. I am very optimistic and excited about having Lovie back in Tampa Bay, his nfl coaching roots. I’m actually looking forward to the upcoming season for the first time in a while, and that’s BIG coming from me considering I’ve been one of the most negative Buc fans as of late. I can’t wait for the off season to really get roaring, getting the rest of the staff assembled, free agency, the draft, etc. GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Tamparob Says:

    The test will be whether Tedford can be a good coach and not just a system guy- and design plays that fit the personnel tht he has on his roster. Kind of like Tomlin adapted his defense from 4-3 to run the 3-4, or John Fox and his staff totally changed theirs to maximize Tebow– or even what Chip Kelly did this year to get the most from Foles. If Tedford is not wedded to a system then we’re good- if he’s not (or if he’s a Jagodzinski again and can’t call plays) then we’re toast. On that note- last year everyone said Foles wasn’t going to be good enough to start. Just like Glennon. With the right coach who can get the most from his players he’ll be fine –not brilliant, but serviceable enough to win.

  15. Scotty Says:

    I say give the guy a chance! you can’t get worse than 32nd !! GO BUCS!!!!!!

  16. SSG Mike Says:

    That’s exactly the point you have seemed to glaze over Joe. This guy was able to get every drop out of his malequipped QB’s making them all 1rst round bust or hero’s. We’ll have to wait and see how it pans out. The NFL usually, until someone is not to be trusted, has position coaches coaching there position and coordinators running the lot and the coach managing the complete scheme. We’ll be able to tell relatively quick what kind of coach we have in Tedford. Unless he gets a new QB in the draft, we have already seen the tools that Glennon is working with. Now the big question is can Tedford get the best out of Glennon?

  17. Justin Says:

    Or you can look at it like this:

    Tedford did a great job getting good play out of that cast of characters. Do you really think it was because of Tedfrd most of them stunk in the NFL? Or was it because they were never really that good at all and Tedford maximized their potential?

  18. SombreroBro Says:

    Geez…..quit over-thinking this sh!t already!

    Think about what a mess we just got rid of and be happy.
    All I really need to hear about Tedford is:

    Can he make adjustments during a game and not be predictable?

    BTW
    Lovie is a great hire and I applaud the Glazers for moving quickly.
    We now have a proven professional HC.

    Go Bucs!

  19. Ian P. Says:

    We have a guy who was paid to develop COLLEGE quarterbacks to compete at the COLLEGE level and he was phenomenally successful doing so. He took kids with mediocre talent and made them all overachievers who became dominant at their respective level of football.

    Wait, isn’t that exactly what we want?

  20. Patrick in VA Says:

    I’m confused. I thought I was on JoeBucsFan.com but as I’m reading the comments it seems like there are a lot of reasonable, level headed people in here…… I don’t know what’s going on here but I don’t trust it.

  21. js Says:

    If you look at it positively, he took pedestrian or less than pedestrian quarterbacks and made them great. When they left his system, they stunk. That would be the exact opposite of the Buc quarterback experience over the history of this franchise. Typically we hold quarterbacks back from their potential, then they move on and flourish (a trend that will likely not apply to Josh Freeman). I like it.

  22. Diehard_Bob Says:

    @pewterpirate99 – Well said! Lovie hooked his wagon to Tedford before he was even offered a head coaching gig for a reason and I’m sure there is a plan already in place for his future offence that we know nothing about. If you feel good about signing Lovie (which most fans seem to), lets trust him to build his coaching staff and wait to see the results. As for me . . . I CAN’T WAIT!! GO BUCS!!

  23. louden Says:

    @pewterpirate99: Exactly, agree 100% Let´s see some legitimate Football this season. Bucs Football will be very exciting again – i think thats for sure (hopefully there won´t be too many overblown expectations from Bucs-fans; just give Lovie his time and enjoy!!)
    GoBucs

  24. Otto Says:

    Z-Bucfan, if I remember right, one of the main complaints about Jeff Jags was his very small playbook. All I keep hearing about Tedford is that his playbook is voluminous.

  25. louden Says:

    As to all Tedford-QB´s theory´s: Remember a Offense isn´t QB alone. Maybe the talent level around them was so high.. (and not just Offense, there is a lot you got to consider)

  26. Kirk Mattingly Says:

    Here we go. Already the complainers and negative crap is starting before the new coaching staff is even in place. All this makes me wonder why anyone would want to come to Tampa to coach.

  27. john Says:

    interesting… this is a weird hire on alot of levels

  28. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Lovie had his choice of many OCs and this is his choice….we can trust it until it fails or be skeptical until it succeeds.

    Look at it this way….How many college QBs did Sully develop?
    Most on JBF thought we would lose him to a HC job last year.

    The bottom line is the proof is in the pudding….we’ll have to wait and see. The first test for Tedford is to get the Bucs’ QB situation right.

  29. DontBucNH8 Says:

    Can’t over see the fact his guys were first round pick and he got the most out of the QBs. From my understanding he plays to the strength of the players and that’s probably why most were 1st rd picks. Hopefully he can get the most out of Glennon.

  30. BucAroo54 Says:

    When I see those names and that they were drafted in the first round it makes me think his offense had to be good to make those guys look like first round talent. Look at the patriots, their system made Matt Cassel look like Brady 2.0. When he left he wasn’t so good. Does that mean the offensive coordinator for the pats is terrible?? Besides, any system has to be better than Sullivan’s run, run, pass, punt – system.

  31. William Says:

    Hopefully, I won’t have to change my name again to Laughing Stock III…

  32. Brett Metcalf Says:

    Though many commenters made this point, I was thinking it while reading the post too. And it is worth repeating:

    QB’s performed very well under Tedford’s direction.

    His job was to make them excellent college QB’s and he did just that. Whether his playbook or play-calling will be successful is anyone’s guess at this point. But criticizing his ability to develop QB’s seems way off-base, given how well they played while he coached them.

  33. MTM Says:

    The common thread with all of the QB’s listed. All played well under Tedford. I don’t give 2 sh&t’s how they played for someone else in the NFL. The Bucs have a bunch of good players and they played awful under Schiano.

  34. Gus Says:

    Joe, you didn’t mention the other players that did well in Tedford’s system. Lynch had back to back 1200 yard season, JJ Arrington ran for a school record, not to mention he got great play from wide receivers like Desean Jackson and Keenan Allen.(Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch, and Desean Jackson, scary as hell) The Pewter Report has an excellent write up of Tedford. In his later years he started to use spread concepts but in the beginning it was much more a west coast offense. My guess is the offense will look a lot like it did when Gruden was here. Glennon is actually perfect for this system from what I’m hearing. I don’t know if Glennon is the guy, but I think this is the best system for him to succeed.
    Dilfer said this is a quarterback centeric scheme. It ask a lot of the quarterback to make reads at the line and it requires a very football smart quarterback. What I’m hearing from most Cal fans is that he is an NFL coach that had to work in college. His scheme is an NFL scheme.

  35. MichiganBucsFan Says:

    Perfect candidate to be one and done. If his offense works he’ll take off for a HC job guaranteed

  36. mike Says:

    Guy has ZERO NFL experience which is not good when the head coach has a weakness when it comes to offense

  37. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I think judging Jeff Tedford for what those QBs did when he was not coaching them anymore iss unfair.

    But I still don’t like the hire. Thing is it is done, so may as well roll with it.

    By the way, how exactly are we seeing the band get back together if Smith is the only one here?

  38. James in Memphis Says:

    Joe chill out. We got the 32nd ranked offense in football. My grandma could improve that. Give the guy a chance

  39. NY Buc Says:

    Cheer up guys, worst case scenario Tedford tanks as OC and 730 days (2 seasons) from now the Glazers will thank Lovie and his staff for their efforts while starting the HC/staff search all over again…it’s kind of how things have been for the Bucs of late. Perhaps we may even be able to get the ‘link to the glory days’ guy we should have at the very least interviewed (Jay Gruden)?

  40. Buc1987 Says:

    Not sticking up for the last coach, because I’m happy with the Lovie hire. But if Lovie does not get it turned around in 2 years time .Say the Bucs go 5-11 next year and 4-12 the year after that. How many of you are going to want to run him out of town too?

  41. Que589 Says:

    If Tedford didn’t coach his college QB’s while they were pros then what’s the relevance of their pro success or failure when their being coach by another QB coach, offensive coordinator, and playing in a different system?

  42. Que589 Says:

    *they’re

    As far as Coach Tedford’s system and not coaching in the NFL. See Chip Kelly

  43. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Lovie had a year to pick this guy so he did it for a reason. Let’s just be open minded and see what he brings to the table

  44. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Tedford did his job as a college coach: got his players to perform to their potential and prepared them to be drafted in the NFL. He did it well. Just because NFL coaches couldn’t take over where he left off with his players isn’t his fault.

    Didn’t we spend the last two years complaining about Schiano not getting the most out of his players and not using them properly? Now we get an OC who has a strong track record of getting his players to OVERachieve, as opposed to UNDERachieve, and Joe wants to go all “glass half empty” on us? Give me a break.

  45. Buc1987 Says:

    “Joe wants to go all “glass half empty” on us? Give me a break.”

    FLBoyInDallas…lol I see your new to the site…

  46. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    @Buc1987

    Actually been here for like 4 years, but I didn’t expect Joe to start pissing on our parade so quickly after Lovie got hired. He usually waits a little while. He’s starting to act more like Eric, Patrick or the_buc_fantasist with this hit piece on Tedford.

    Laughable comment here. There’s no hit on Tedford.–Joe

  47. White Tiger Says:

    It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start defending a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when that coach was fired from his last job!?

    People – Tedford’s not a good coach, and Glennon is not a spread QB. It doesn’t matter to me if you THINK he should be given the benefit of the doubt – especially since your only reasoning is A) he’s a Buc now, and B) he’s new – He doesn’t deserve anything.

    What makes it worse, he currently has all the tools he’s ever going to get…

    For me, that hire set the tone.

  48. Jordan Says:

    What a loser! Only two Superbowl winning QBs came from his program. Pass.

  49. Patrick Says:

    “Give the guy a chance”

    Yeah you guys said that when Raheem was hired as HC, when it was obvious that it was a horrible hire. Quit kissing this guys ass; this was another reach.

  50. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    @White Tiger

    “It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start defending a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when that coach was fired from his last job!?”

    It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start attacking a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when every coach who is available by definition was fired from his last job!?

  51. Patrick Says:

    “Only two Super Bowl winning QBs came from his program”

    Yeah, Trent Dilfer was the reason the Ravens won the Super Bowl. Lol. I’ll give AR that’s it.

  52. Jordan Says:

    Patrick – so you only want the Bucs to win Superbowls as long as the QB is the sole reason they win? Weak argument.

  53. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Awww…are some of your widdle feewings hurt because you didn’t get the coaches you wanted? Do you need mommy to powder your bottom? Do you need a warm baba to make you feel better? Lol!

  54. Steven Says:

    “Buc Neckid Says:
    January 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
    Wait a minute
    The fact that we recognize those names on that list IS relevant.
    They were all highly touted COLLEGE Quarterbacks coming INTO the NFL.
    The fact that some failed in the NFL should not be seen a direct reflection on Tedford but more a sign that they were productive under his guidance.”

    100% correct. This article totally missed the point…

  55. Killian Says:

    As long as he doesn’t run it two times up the middle and then throw a six yard pass on third and nine I’m good!

  56. Eric Says:

    That’s not a horrific list.

    Those are all first round draft picks, coming from a non powerhouse program.

    That’s stunning success. You cant indict this guys offense because of how they did in the pros, he wasn’t coaching them.

    Hey, two of them won Super Bowls. Who else has done that. I have to go all the way back to Ken Stabler and Joe Namath from Alabama. Plus Rodgers is a Hall of Famer.

    But seven QB first rounders? Nobody has done that, the dude must know something.

    oh, and he had Marshawn Lynch and Jahvid Best as running backs, who lit it up under him. Those guys are pretty good. Oh, and how about Desean Jackson, he rips us a new one every time.

  57. don Says:

    Joe, what’s up with the extremely annoying you tube commercials? Ruins my on-line radio exspierence

  58. Gt40bear Says:

    Uneasy, cautious optimism here. Would have prefered Chud or Norv, but willing to give benefit of the doubt for now.

  59. Chris Says:

    Patrick Says:
    January 3rd, 2014 at 12:02 pm
    “Only two Super Bowl winning QBs came from his program”

    Yeah, Trent Dilfer was the reason the Ravens won the Super Bowl. Lol. I’ll give AR that’s it.

    That’s more than the great nick saban of Pete Carroll produced.

  60. Nick H Says:

    Yeah and not to mention 99% of college QBs don’t pan out in the NFL and we’re back to square one.

    Wait and see, the only thing left to do.

  61. pick6 Says:

    akili smith, trent dilfer, david carr, and joey harrington went into situations where success would have been miraculous. literally miraculous. the bengals that drafted akili smith were the cleveland browns of their day – mired in awfulness and ownership\mgmt that almost seemed to aim for failure. joey harrington was one of many victims of the matt millen years in detroit. david carr led an expansion team that exposed him to one of the highest career sack rates in history. and i think we all know what trent dilfer walked into in tampa. so, that leaves feely (not a high draft pick and had a decent career as a backup), boller (a true bust on a team that needed very little from its QB), and aaron rodgers who probably would’ve gone down a similar path to the rest if he had been drafted by the browns or a similar franchise. so much of success in the NFL for QBs is the situation you are put in to grow and succeed (or not)

  62. PRBucFan Says:

    I’m gonna laugh my a$$ off shen you guys are forced to change your tune.

    Bottom line is some of you people are NEVER going to be satisfied and you will ALWAYS fine something to bitch about.

    Let’s bring back Schiano, Sheridan, and Sully, so these guys can actually have a valid reason to bitch.

  63. Eric Says:

    Folks went on and on about how great Rutgers guys do in the pro ranks, after being coached by the great man. NFL ready and all. Bellichick said it. Blah blah blah.

    Ray Rice and one other guy or so. Zero QB’s of any note at all.

    But this guy has two Super Bowl winning QB’s, seven first round draft choices at the position, and some damn good offensive players in the NFL and somehow its not good.

    Hilarious.

  64. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    “I’m gonna laugh my a$$ off shen you guys are forced to change your tune.”

    Right back at you.

    Never called plays in the NFL. Never once was an NFL coach. QBs had measurables and lots of stats but were not prepared for the NFL.

    Sounds solid.

  65. Eric Says:

    Chip Kelly must stink as a play caller in the NFL.

    No prior NFl experience, and developed no successful NFL QB’s while at Oregon.

    Obviously unqualified.

  66. trubucfan22 Says:

    Kinda disappointed in joe for truing to show tedford in an ugly light. Does joe really think any college qb can come in and not need to learn a nfl offense? They just come straight from college ready to play in the nfl right? You make it sound like tedfords qbs were brainwashed and needed to go through shock treatment to get them to be good…. when in reality those kids were already good when they left tedford, and it would seem more like the nfl broke them.

  67. trubucfan22 Says:

    Give the guy a chance. Its better than taking some qb coach who has never called plays or designed a playbook in his life before.

    If anything, him not being an nfl guy could create a fresh offense, that can be tweaked to work in the nfl.

    Idk but im excited for tedford. Hes a better OC prospect than mike sullivan or josh mcdaniels, or some other wanna be oc that hasnt done anything in his entire career.

  68. Buxfan Says:

    I just watched Highlights of Aaron Rodgers at Cal. The offense look like a lot of RB in motion, dink and dunk.

  69. Patrick Says:

    Jordan that’s not what I said at all. He was making it sound like Dilfer was a great quarterback, when everyone knows that the Ravens won that SB because of their killer D. Dilfer sucked.

  70. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    I forget how many national title games did Tedford go to?

    Cal had one division title in 11 years under Tedford.

    Kelly went to a BCS bowl in EACH of his four seasons as head coach, including one title game. He coached 3 outright PAC12 titles and one division title in his four years. He also wasn’t fired.

    Were the resources the same? No. But, Cal did commit resources to him and he did have athletes. So, I’m not sure that’s a good comparison for your argument.

    Let’s be honest, there’s been a buzz about Kelly even at New Hampshire. No one has been beating down Tedford’s door.

    Again, I’d love to be wrong, but, if he doesn’t have immediate success there will be issues. We both know that.

  71. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    “it would seem more like the nfl broke them.”

    The NFL broke 5 of 6 first round QBs? And the other had a chance to learn under one of the best ever for a few years….

  72. PRBucFan Says:

    He’s going to be the OC not the HC he doesn’t need to go to a national title
    bwahahahaha stop being ridiculous lol.

    His job is to make this offense respectable and competitive and help whoever we get at QB.

    That he has on his resume.

    My goodness people are clueless

  73. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    @PR

    My opinion is every bit of valid as yours. Don’t kid yourself. And, to be succinct, there’s nothing on his resume about playcalling in the NFL. So, to act like it’s not an unknown is simply untrue. This is a guess by Lovie. For his sake, I hope he guessed correctly.

    We will see very quickly if his offense resembles Kelly’s or Spurrier’s. Both called their own plays in college. One failed miserably.

  74. Eric Says:

    Kelly had grand success at Oregon no doubt. So did Steve Spurrior at Florida but didn’t do well in pros.

    No way to tell how this guy will do.

    Gonna have to let him coach a game or two.

    My point is this argument about the first round QB draft choices not working out is silly. Guys have had success in the pros with no QBs taken in first round at all. Chip Kelly is one.

    I happen to think the seven first rounders at QB is an outstanding accomplishment no matter how they did in the pros.

  75. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    It’s an impeccable accomplishment, and he seems to be great at getting guys drafted high. However, I’m not sure that it means much about calling plays in the NFL. I don’t even know how much it means about coaching QBs in the NFL. He has never done it. Ever.

    No one knows, hence the major risk. Especially considering how badly the offense needs improvement.

  76. Eric Says:

    A risk it is.

  77. PRBucFan Says:

    Your opinion that we need national title winner at everyone of our positions is just that an opinion.

    Not valid by any means.

    Ridiculous actually.

    And that is your insinuation so don’t bother denying it.

  78. PRBucFan Says:

    every one*

  79. Eric Says:

    All it means is the guy has demonstrated over a long period of time that he can get qbs to perform at a very high level in college. And also at RB and WR.

    Whether that will translate to Sundays who knows. It makes sense to me that it would.

    Lovie sees something in him so for now he gets the benefit of the doubt, in my book, offensive minded or not. I would hope he’s been around long enough to know what a good offense conducive to pro football looks like.

  80. lurker Says:

    i’m actually more intrigues with the tedford choice than the meh feeling about lovie. however, it does seem that lovie has thought about what he needs to improve upon this go around. so i’m cautiously optimistic.

  81. buccaneer863 Says:

    I don’t see how any of u can actually be fans. I mean every time it’s a change in the organization, it’s nothing but negativity. If they hired new water boys some asshole would say something like ” I don’t think they can get water to the players fast enough”. Give the guy a chance. It couldn’t be any worse than it was.

  82. bigpoppabuc Says:

    I think Joe is down on Teddford because he knows he won’t get Johnny Football. If the descriptions I’ve read of Teddford’s system are true, then Glennon is just the guy.

 
 

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