The Rash Of Sacks

December 24th, 2013
If Bucs guard Davin Joseph struggling because perhaps he is not yet 100 percent back from knee surgery?

Is Davin Joseph struggling because perhaps he is not yet 100 percent recovered from knee surgery?

Joe knows that in the inner-walls of One Buc Palace, the decline of the offensive line is of a great concern.

For Bucs fans, it has been the source of acid reflux, and for good reason. In the past few games, opposing defenses have exploded, making Monday mornings troublesome for Bucs quarterback Mike Glennon.

Your eyes are not deceiving. Woody Cummings of the Tampa Tribune has the disturbing numbers.

@RCummingsTBO: The Bucs gave up 26 sacks last year, 3rd least in NFL. They’ve allowed 21 in their last five games.

Well, it’s kind of hard to pass the ball if your immobile quarterback has to be mobile, running from racing defenders to save his neck.

For whatever reason, Bucs offensive line coach Bob Bostad has been unable to use his magic to turn things around.

Maybe starting 100+ consecutive games is starting to take its toll on Donald Penn? Maybe Davin Joseph isn’t quite rite from his knee surgery a year ago?

Joe doesn’t think it is so wrong if the Bucs addbfresh blood to the offensive line in the draft come May.

21 Responses to “The Rash Of Sacks”

  1. Bucsfanman Says:

    The Bucs will have to upgrade that line one way or another. It’s truly a shame that we were not able to see these pieces come together. On paper it had such promise.
    Merry Christmas to all! Maybe Santa will deliver a Saints loss this weekend!
    Go Bucs!

  2. Destin johnny Says:

    After 5 drafts by a general manager if your line is this piss poor you should lose your job

  3. Mike J Says:

    Watching SNF, it transpired that the Bears tore down & rebuilt their O-line in one year; they had 2 free agents on the left side, & 2 rookies on the right.All season.Only hold-over was the center, Garza.

    Maybe for Tampa Bay, the hold-over should be Dotson.

  4. buc4lyfe Says:

    i remember everyone saying that phillip rivers was done as an nfl quarterback….look what happens when you bring in coach with a plan, same thing goes for the offensive line, every line in the league gives up sacks..even the broncos have one of the worst offensive lines in the league. when will the excuses ever end. after one season of the offensive line playing like probowlers WITHOUT DAVIN JOSEPH AND CARL NICKS all of a sudden this year their worthless…..why dont you go get some more probowlers and 1 round rookies and plug them into this offense this offseason and lets see how well they do when even the audience sitting in the stands and in their living room knows the plays were about to run and see how productive they will be. it’s not like we have a complex offense…what happened to gabe carimi the guy they decided was good enough to come in and start over all the offensive linemen that already knew our system…..

    people are delusional if they think that after losing peyton manning and winning one game that year that the only reason colts went to the playoffs was because of one single person named andrew luck, they even changed from a 4-3 to a 3-4…and were worried about stability if we change the head coach when teams are changing their entire front office and going to the playoffs the next year….whatever im waiting for black monday and that’ll plan my entire offseason….

    JOE you should be praying the bucs fire the coaching staff because otherwise i think the fans already know what’s gonna happen next year so there wont be much of a need to waste time reading about what we already know will happen….he’s a garbage head coach and its all his fault and i wont eat those words until he comes out and beats atleast 4 teams next year with a winning record and i dont mean one ever 4 games i mean go 3-1 every quarter of the season and ill get off your back but the fact that next year he would have to have to go 13-3 just to have a .500 record here says it all

  5. chickster Says:

    I agree all the sudden the o lines are bums that’s bull just think they have no fire left and if this coach is gone next Monday you will here the stories

  6. Tackleblockwin Says:

    If we plan to upgrade numerous positions on the Oline (which I dont think is our biggest need) I hope we go for veteran linemen in FA. I don’t want a bunch of rookie lineman blocking for Glennon next year…if he is the starter, or a rookie QB is starting. Now that would be a recipe for disaster IMO.

  7. SeanyMac in SC Says:

    @Clowney- JD Clowney is over rated. If it weren’t for that one big play against Mich last year, most people would not even know who he is.

    I’ve watched most of the SCar games this year, and he takes plays off, one game, he just took himself out of the game. Spurrier could not explain just WTF Clowney was doing taking himself out of the game. He faded away in the biggest SEC games. There are also some character issues not heard about from the national media, but local media does report.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  8. BucNasty!!! Says:

    Honestly the o line has its flaws but they aren’t as bad as the numbers suggest. You deff have to help them put and go hand n hand. Of u give pen help wit a chip when u see he needs it and not let him and his confidence get abused without making an adjustment. And how many times this season have u seen Glennon step up and climb the pocket??? I’d day 6 times all season u gotta step up when they give u a pocket and believe n it. If u constantly have no faith n your lineman and bail our the pocket and walk wit ice blocks stuck to your feet your bound to take an additional 3 unnecessary sacks per game. Glennon has mad his line look worse than they really are but that’s his lack of experience and his balls no offense. But a fresh Joseph with a hopefully somewhat healthy nicks and we go right back to praising bostad. We’ll b fine folks especially with a QB who’s willing to work as a team and not like his leader schiano…..aka a backstabbing throw u under the bus kinda fella when the sun goes down lmao

  9. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    IMHO-We Need to Trim the……..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WEXzUKM-gU

  10. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    And as for the Bears-They Cleaned house( Except Garza)

    Signed Key Free Agents

    Free Agents

    LT
    Name: Jermon Bushrod
    DOB: 1984-08-19 College: Towson State Height: 6’04″ Weight: 315
    Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2007 Round: 4 Selection: 125
    QB sacks this year: 4

    RG
    Name: Matt Slauson
    DOB: 1986-02-18 College: Nebraska Height: 6’05″ Weight: 316
    Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2009 Round: 6 Selection: 193
    QB sacks this year: 3

    Signed Great Blocking TE’s
    Name: Martellus BennettDOB: 1987-03-10 College: Texas A & M Height: 6’06″ Weight: 259Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2008 Round: 2 Selection: 61

    Name: Dante RosarioDOB: 1984-10-25 College: Oregon Height: 6’03″ Weight: 241Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2007 Round: 5 Selection: 155

    Drafted
    RG/RT
    Name: Kyle Long
    DOB: 1988-12-05 College: Oregon Height: 6’06″ Weight: 313
    Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2013 Round: 1 Selection: 20
    QB sacks this year: 3

    RT/RG
    Name: Jordan Mills
    DOB: 1990-12-24 College: Louisiana Tech. Height: 6’05″ Weight: 316
    Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2013 Round: 5 Selection: 163
    QB sacks this year: 3 *Weak Link (62) QB pressures

    And Above All else they signed one of the Best Offensive line Coaches in the Business

    AARON KROMER!!!!!

    -SAME GUY THAT HELPED TAMPA & OAKLAND REJUVENATE THEIR LINES-

    Known for his teaching skills and attention to detail. Under Kromers watch

    *Five Saints blockers were selected to the Pro Bowl. That same line only allowed 70 sacks over the past three seasons, the third-lowest total in the NFL.

  11. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    IMHO

    Keep:
    Demar Dotson
    Gabe Carimi
    Patrick Omameh

    Release( All-Non Guaranteed Contracts)
    Donald Penn 7,733,333
    Davin Joseph 6,000,000
    Jeremy Zuttah 4,000,000

    Target/Sign Free Agents:
    Name: Alex Mack DOB: 1985-11-19 College: California Height: 6’04″ Weight: 311 Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2009 Round: 1 Selection: 21
    *Ranks as one of the Best Run & Pass Blockers the past 3yrs
    *Giving up only 1 sacks this year

    Name: Jon Asamoah DOB: 1988-07-21 College: Illinois Height: 6’04″ Weight: 305 Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2010 Round: 3 Selection: 68
    *Good Run & Pass Blocker
    *Giving up only 1 sacks this year

    Sign Blocking TE’s (That can catch of Course)
    Name: Brandon Pettigrew DOB: 1985-02-23 College: Oklahoma State Height: 6’05″ Weight: 263 Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2009 Round: 1 Selection: 20

    Name: Brandon Myers DOB: 1985-09-04 College: Iowa Height: 6’04″ Weight: 250 Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2009 Round: 6 Selection: 202

    Draft:
    (1st Round)
    LT/RT-Taylor Lewan Michigan 6-7 315

    (3rd Round)
    Spencer Long Injured Nebraska r 6-4 315

    (4rd Round)
    RT/RG JaWuan James Tennessee 6-6 318

    (7th Round) Red Shirt 1st year
    G/C Spencer Long Nebraska 6-4 315

  12. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    ***Correction***

    Draft:
    (1st Round)
    LT/RT-Taylor Lewan Michigan 6-7 315

    (3rd Round)
    C/G-Bryan Stork Florida State 6-4 300

    (4rd Round)
    RT/RG- JaWuan James Tennessee 6-6 318

    (7th Round) Red Shirt 1st year
    G/C -Spencer Long Nebraska 6-4 315

  13. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *Centers slide in most drafts. Hoping we can draft -

    (3rd Round)
    TE-C.J. Fiedorowicz Iowa 6-6 265

    (4th Round)
    C/G-Bryan Stork Florida State 6-4 300

  14. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    **EXTRA VALUE**

    I Know JVille has plenty of Cap space. But If we really wanna put the dot on it. Sign the best blocking RB in the game:

    Name: Maurice Jones-Drew DOB: 1985-03-23 College: UCLA Height: 5’07″ Weight: 207 Drafted: Annual NFL Draft Year: 2006 Round: 2 Selection: 60

    Probably Cost around $4.5
    No doubt he will help clean up our 3rd down problems.

  15. Greg Says:

    @ LUVMYBUCS, how are the Bucs supposed to pay for all of those offensive linemen? Even if we let Joseph, Penn and Zuttah go, we wouldn’t have enough money to pay their replacements! Face it, this team has a lot of missing pieces it needs to be competitive in the NFL, and we aren’t going to get there with Dominic and Schiano in charge.

  16. Rick in Fort Myers Says:

    Of course Davin Joseph isn’t 100% nor is Darrelle Revis. It’s common knowledge that it takes 2 years to return to 100% of pre-ACL injury form if ever.

    In addition, Joseph’s injury was much more extensive and complex, likely requiring even more time to recover to 100% form.

    Adrian Peterson’s remarkable recovery skewed the recovery timeline in the perception of many fans. Today, many believe because of Peterson that one year or 10 or 11 months, like Peterson, is all that’s required. Peterson, however is a rarity, a freak of nature, almost a Superman if you, which is clear from his inhuman performances as a running back.

    For, most mortals the time to return to 100% of peak performance following a devastating knee injury remains around two years. We won’t know how much of their peak form Revis or Joseph will regain until sometime next year.

  17. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    PER BSPN:

    ***(PROJECTED 2014 SALARY CAP)****NOV 29TH 2013

    TAMPA, Fla. — This season is not over, but it’s never too early to start looking ahead at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ salary cap situation for 2014.

    Next season’s salary cap likely will be somewhere around $125 million. The Bucs are in a good position. They currently have just over $115 million committed to 45 players for 2014. They have no major prospective free agents.

    Once upon a time, it was thought that quarterback Josh Freeman would eat up a large part of the 2014 cap. But Freeman flamed out and was released. The Bucs might have stumbled into a very good economic situation as rookie quarterback Mike Glennon has been playing well lately.

    If coach Greg Schiano sticks around, it’s almost a certainty he’ll continue to move forward with Glennon. That would be very good economically because Glennon is scheduled to only cost $705,000 toward next year’s salary cap.

    As it stands right now, the Bucs would have about $10 million to play with in free agency. But there’s more good news on the horizon. They are just over $7 million under this year’s salary cap and they can carry any unused space over until next year.

    The other tactic the Bucs could use (and they used it last year with Carl Nicks and Vincent Jackson) would be to push more of the 2014 salary-cap hit for Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson into bonus money before the end of this season.

    Either way the Bucs go about it, they should have somewhere around $17 million in cap space for 2014.

    ****UPDATE DEC. 17TH 2013*****
    ((Per: Former Sports Agent -Joel Corry ))

    NFL teams were informed at an NFL meeting on Dec. 11 that the 2014 salary cap is preliminarily projected to be $126.3 million. This is a 2.68 percent increase over the current $123 million salary cap. When the 2014 salary cap is set in late February or early March, it could be as high as $128 million.

    Each team’s actual salary cap (known as adjusted salary cap) is typically different from the NFL’s set amount because unused cap room can be carried over from one year to the next and other adjustments can further increase or decrease cap space.

    For example, the Redskins have the lowest adjusted salary cap this year at slightly more than $110 million because of a $36 million salary cap penalty split evenly over 2012 and 2013 for violating unwritten spending rules during the uncapped 2010 season.

  18. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Keys

    - Release( All-Non Guaranteed Contracts)
    - Donald Penn: $7,066,665
    - Davin Joseph: 6,000,000,
    - Jeremy Zuttah: 4,000,000,
    - Michael Koenen: $3,250,000

    +(Cap Savings: $20,316,665)

    +As it stands right now, the Bucs would have about $10-$13 million to play with in free agency.

    +We’re just over $7 million under this year’s salary cap and so we can carry any unused space over until next year.

    +Push more of the 2014 salary-cap hit for Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson into bonus money before the end of this season.(We’ve done this already with Nicks & Jackson) Carrying over to much dead money will put you in cap

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    continue…cap purgatory

    So under those conditions we would have roughly
    $37-$40 Million in Cap Space

    Trade Revis (Player + Pick or Just 2 Picks & Restructure Goldson’s deal? We can spread the luv across the entire roster (DT/NT, CB,)

  20. Jim Says:

    The guard position is in shambles. We need talent that can actually play the game.

  21. Bucsfanman Says:

    Wow, someone has lots of spare time!
    LUVMYBUCS the Bucs cannot afford to jettison all of the players you mention. First of all, getting rid of Revis is a huge mistake. The drop off on the roster after him(even with his bad knee) is significant. Next, I would be inclined to retain Zuttah because of his ability to play multiple positions and, I don’t think he has played that poorly. You’re going to need at least one of the guards if for nothing else, a stop-gap solution. In this case, Joseph would seem to be the safer choice. For him a 2 year/short-term deal that’s cap friendly. I think Koenen is overrated and punters are a dime a dozen.
    So, needs like LT, LG, DE, CB, TE, WR could then be addressed via draft or free agency. We don’t need to overspend on FAs like we have in the past 2 seasons. Draft well and grow the talent. Use FA to bolster the roster and add depth. It seems so easy doesn’t it?!
    Go Bucs!

 
 

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