Comments on: Bucs “Willing To Get A Deal Done” With Freeman

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:55:52 +0000

@Jarrett
I guess I’m not making my point clear enough. I don’t care about market value. His contract isn’t up yet, so there’s no reason to worry about that yet. How he plays this year is what’s mostly going to determine his market value. If he doesn’t play better, his market value is zero as far as I’m concerned.

By: jarrett

jarrett — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:40:46 +0000

Hawaiian, still havent answered,whether u would resign him not question, what is the market value. I am looking for numbers as in millions. Look at market and what comparable qbs get paid

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:39:14 +0000

I can’t help it. Where exactly did I blame losses on Freeman? All I said was he hasn’t earned a nee , big money contract because he hasnt played well enough. Even though its a team sport, you are paid off of your individual performance. I have never once said we should get rid of him, or that there is someone better we should replace him with. But if he has had 4 years and still isn’t even a top half of the league QB, why should we pay him like one? This is a results based business, and he has yet to produce results. He’s been wildly inconsistent, so there’s absolutely no reason to extend him, even though he’ll be cheaper. If he doesn’t work out, his contract could damage us for years (i.e. Mark Sanchez). None of us know how he’s going to turn out, so let it play out before we jump the gun and take too big of a risk.

As for being wrong, I’ve been wrong many times before, and will be wrong many times again. I hope more than anything Freeman plays lights out and makes all of us criticizing him look like fools. I’m not a GM, and I’ve said that many times in the past. None of us are, and I’m pretty sure you’ve been wrong before too, even though you have never once admitted it. But don’t you sit on your high horse and pretend as if you are better or smarter than me, especially when you say such ridiculous statements like comparing Flacco to Dilfer. I come on this site because I love the Bucs and I like to hear the opinions of other Bucs fans, whether or not I agree with them. Its fun to argue points with other fans, but you are the biggest piece of trash on this site (with apologies to a few others deserving of that distinction). You constantly name call, you never admit being wrong, and you criticize others for doing exactly what you do yourself. And trust me, everyone knows it.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:15:38 +0000

@Capt.Tim,
I’m done with you. You’re not worth arguing with.

@ Jarrett,
I thought I answered your question. I dont believe you extend him now, but if you do, you pay him below average QB money (whatever that is) with little to no guaranteed money. Obviously it will be cheaper if we sign him now, but I’m more interested in having the right guy and winning games than getting a bargain. As for the pile on comment, I was referring to the fact that everyone was criticizing you and I wasn’t trying to pile on you. You have a right to your opinion, and I was trying to respect yours.

By: jarrett

jarrett — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:02:22 +0000

Im not even advocating flacco money at all, Im just saying his contract affects market. When matt ryan and aaron rodgers resign, that will also affect market. Look at salaries for top 12-18 ,flacco is one, stafford ,bradford, romo, schaub, cutler. Even throw in sanchez’s contract. After you look this up, tell me that i am wrong, Hawaaian you said i hate to pile on,what? Ive been kicking people off from the top of the pile all week. I just think if we sign him now, it will be cheaper than waiting til next year. Anyone care to wager on that.

By: jarrett

jarrett — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:25:31 +0000

Hawaiin still waiting on answer, what is the market value for freeman? Use google if u must. Mr. lucky ive been trying to cure stupidity all week, i have high hopes that you will come around.

By: Mr Lucky

Mr Lucky — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:52:27 +0000

Hey Hawaiian Buc,

Don’t get frustrated with Capt Kim and Jarrett – remember you can’t cure stupidity.

By: Capt. Tim

Capt. Tim — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:37:47 +0000

And good call on Talibum! He straightened right out, didn’t he!!
And Trent Richardson was the second coming of Jim Brown, just like you said- over and friggin over!!

Well, at least you never get tired of being wrong! Lmao

By: Capt. Tim

Capt. Tim — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:08:58 +0000

Hmm, Flacco threw 11 td’s, and no interceptions! He won the SuperBowl!
Yaaa!

Dilfer threw 3 Td’s, and 1 interceptions! He won the SuperBowl! Yaaaa!

Same size Ring as Flacco’s!
It’s almost as if Raven’s won two SuperBowls- without or without great QB play!! Kinda like its a Team Sport, and it takes a great TEAM to win- more important than great QB play!!!

But that can’t be! Otherwise, you can’t blame every lose on Freeman!! It might possibly be mistaken for a TEAM lose

Pathetic! Hawaiian- you’ve posted here for at least 3 years, and I swear you haven’t ever posted an originally thought, or anything but the crap you are regurgitating from an ESPN broadcast. But you main goal seems to be some kinda half as*ed board monitor, critiquing every post- making sure it’s in line with the typical brainless crap you post

Why do you come here? If you aren’t gonna really watch the sport? Are you practicing to get some kinda editors job at ” mediocrity Monthly” Magazine

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:39:42 +0000

And for the record, in Dilfer’s playoff run with Baltimore, he had a 48% completion percentage, 590 yards, 3 TD’s, 1 INT, with a rating of 83.7. Joe Flacco (same number of games) had a 58% completion percentage, 1140 yards, 11 TD’s (thought it was 14, my bad), zero INT’s, with a rating of 117.2. You go ahead and analyze those stats and let me know how they are in any way comparable. But like the little girl you are, you’ll just run away from facts and start pretending to be more enlightened that EVERYONE else in the world.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:29:22 +0000

Capt. Tim,

And apparently you must not know me, but I’m not one to complain about our players, especially Freeman. I’ve defended him year after year. However, it’s been four years with little to no improvement. I have witnessed first hand that he doesn’t necessarily have this great work ethic that people believe he has. I still wear my Freeman jersey, but at what point does he have to be held accountable for his poor play? At what point is it no longer acceptable to throw ground balls to his receivers on third down? At what point is it no longer okay to make ridiculous INT’s at critical moments both the game and the season? At what point is he going to have to put all this talent together and win some damn games? I don’t believe he is loaded with weapons as Joe and others believe, but he certainly has enough to put up more than zero points against the worst defense in the NFL (New Orleans) in a game we absolutely had to win.

It’s even funnier that you have the audacity to say that Flacco didn’t win the Super Bowl. He had the single best playoff performance of any QB in the history of the NFL dumb arse!!! That’s a statistical fact, and has been said time and time again. I guess you didn’t get the memo. The guy has never thrown more than 12 INT’s in a season, and only in his rookie year did he throw less than 20 TD’s. Comparing him to Freeman and Dilfer is downright laughable, and only a complete tool would ever do such a thing. Like I said, obviously one of the best GM’s in the game agrees, because he gave him his money. You gonna tell me you are smarter than Ozzie Newsome? You are a joke, and we are all stupider as a result of having to read your ridiculous posts.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:39:58 +0000

Dilfer threw for 12 td’s and 11 INT’s in Baltimore. Look up every single season for Flacco and find me one even close to that bad. You’re a joke of a person, and everyone knows it.

And yes, an Elite QB is supposed to make a team better than their talent. Tom Brady does it every year. They all do.

I’m not going to argue the obvious. Obviously, everyone agrees with me, which is why Flacco got paid and Freeman hasn’t. You are so clueless, but it’s so funny that you think otherwise.