Comments on: “Force The Issue” With Luke Stocker

By: scubog

scubog — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:37:10 +0000

As far as I’m concerned, when a 4th round draft choice is a part-time starter depending on formations, it’s not a “crappy draft pick”. However, selecting Arrelious Benn in the 2nd round is beginning to qualify as one if he cant stay healthy. Regarding the debate as to the media’s accuracy of the mindset of the Bucs brass when it comes to Luke Stocker and the collection of developmental TE’s; the proof will be how they address the position in free agency or early in the draft. I agree with Becht that he has been somewhat of a forgotten man to this point.

By: john

john — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:17:10 +0000

2 things… one it’s an another crappy draft pick for our administrator of a gm who cant draft his way out of a paper bag. He traded a 4th to move up to get him strong work mark. the other is if 5 is the qb does it matter?

By: Curmudgeon

Curmudgeon — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:56:51 +0000

Macabee-

Only thing I’m saying is take everything you’re reading with a grain of salt, since all the information out there is 100% speculative, unless someone out there has penetrated the lockdown at OBP. Just because all these commenters are speculating that the Bucs are going after a TE doesn’t make it so. Could it be? Sure. It wouldn’t surprise me that much. Again, my only point was to draw a distinction between the speculation machine and what we *actually* know from OBP, which is nothing.

By the way, I’d be totally happy to have an additional threat in the passing game that could also block. But if it came down to an economic either/or between a TE or a defensive player, I’d take the defense hands down.

By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:48:28 +0000

Ugh.. forget it. And remember, Dominik TRADED UP for him.

By: Macabee

Macabee — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:03:49 +0000

Curmudgeon,

At this point, your opinion is just as good as anybody else’s when it comes to deciding what the Bucs will do. But, like yours, there are other opinions, some respected, that differ. I am simply stating the fact that I’ve read some of them!

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4639/martellus-bennett

By: Andrew 1

Andrew 1 — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:27:35 +0000

I see what Becht is saying, and kind of agree with him. The plays that are called that have him listed as the primary receiver are few and far between. He is always the last resort to get the ball on almost every passing play. I would like to see Sullivan get him more involved in the passing game next season if we decide not to replace him during the off season.

By: 4everBucsFan

4everBucsFan — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:06:25 +0000

He doesn’t get targeted enough to make a fair evaluation on him as a pass catching TE. They were committed to using Dallas as a receiver more and even he wasn’t targeted much. Last year, Sullivan’s offense didn’t include the TE much in early progression reads. Hopefully, this year we will and Stocker can step up and show he’s a more complete TE.

By: Keith

Keith — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:35:42 +0000

Huh? Stocker played every game last season.

By: pick6

pick6 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:27:08 +0000

stocker has missed alot of time with injury in his brief career, if i were a coach i’d be worried about relying on him in the gameplan and i’m sure it hasn’t helped his chemistry with his QB either.

By: Bucfan20

Bucfan20 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:47:32 +0000

One of the main problems is they went out and got Freeman all the new toys. Then allthey wanted to play with was all the new toys. Think back to the whole season and look where most of the plays went. I am not a big Freeman fan but not hard to see 3 and out when all the defense has to watch for is VJ, MW or Martin. Everyone else was used very little. And when they were Freeman woud hang them out to dry like he did Underwood to get his head taken off because the ball was so far off where it should have been.

By: Curmudgeon

Curmudgeon — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:38:10 +0000

So far, the talk about TE is coming from writers and commenters, not from OBP… so we have no idea what they’re thinking. They may not see TE as a big component of the offense they wanna play, so the speculation about getting a FA or high draft pick at TE has no basis in fact, yet. Did they spend time interviewing TEs at the Senior Bowl? How much $$$ does Martellus Bennett want? You can’t afford to devote big money at every position on the team, and it’s possible they may not view TE as worth that investment. Also, some recent numbers show that they are the most unbalanced team in the NFC South in terms of spending on offense vs. defense. They’ve gotta devote cash to the defensive side now. So, I think we can live with Stocker and a draft pick… They also have some developmental guys like Danny Noble and Drake Dunsmore who might develop into contributors. We’ll see.

I say spend the money on DEFENSE!

By: Have A Nice Day

Have A Nice Day — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:56:59 +0000

Stone Hand Luke needs some stick’em.