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	<title>Comments on: Andy Benoit Talks To Joe</title>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2878644</link>
		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keuchly is not in a class of his own, that&#039;s my only prob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keuchly is not in a class of his own, that&#8217;s my only prob</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2871630</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW.  Why all the hate on each other?

Basically we are all saying Lavonte David is great.  Many of you are saying Keuchly is overrated... whatever.  He lookes like a stud MLB in the makling t me.  Go look at more than just when the Bucs played them.

Not sure why people are trying to get credit for talking up David.  Who cares?  He is a Buc and everyone seems happy about it.

As for Josh:
^^^^^^^^^CHRIS^^^^^^^^
2009 - He sat out as the 3rd stringer with no reps in year one offseason when Olsen started and Jagz was cut 1 week before the season
2010 - First year really learning the offense in the offseason with the Bucs committed to him as starter.
2011 - Olsen still but no offseason - lockout
2012 - Sullivan

So yes, CHRIS, you are correct, but there has been no flow and no consistency.  2 of the 4 years he basically had no offseason at all.  The other 2 offseasons were with 2 different OCs.

This is really the first time he is going to have back to back offseasons with the same offense and OC.

Look at ALL the great consistent QBs -  they ALL had consistency in the offenses they ran, from the GM on down to the OCs.

It makes a MASSIVE difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  Why all the hate on each other?</p>
<p>Basically we are all saying Lavonte David is great.  Many of you are saying Keuchly is overrated&#8230; whatever.  He lookes like a stud MLB in the makling t me.  Go look at more than just when the Bucs played them.</p>
<p>Not sure why people are trying to get credit for talking up David.  Who cares?  He is a Buc and everyone seems happy about it.</p>
<p>As for Josh:<br />
^^^^^^^^^CHRIS^^^^^^^^<br />
2009 &#8211; He sat out as the 3rd stringer with no reps in year one offseason when Olsen started and Jagz was cut 1 week before the season<br />
2010 &#8211; First year really learning the offense in the offseason with the Bucs committed to him as starter.<br />
2011 &#8211; Olsen still but no offseason &#8211; lockout<br />
2012 &#8211; Sullivan</p>
<p>So yes, CHRIS, you are correct, but there has been no flow and no consistency.  2 of the 4 years he basically had no offseason at all.  The other 2 offseasons were with 2 different OCs.</p>
<p>This is really the first time he is going to have back to back offseasons with the same offense and OC.</p>
<p>Look at ALL the great consistent QBs &#8211;  they ALL had consistency in the offenses they ran, from the GM on down to the OCs.</p>
<p>It makes a MASSIVE difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Joc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2871410</link>
		<dc:creator>Joc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bama Grad here- barons open field tackaling is a issue. He is average at best. We blew it not drafting Luke. If we had him a David wow. Dom is a administrater not talent evaluated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bama Grad here- barons open field tackaling is a issue. He is average at best. We blew it not drafting Luke. If we had him a David wow. Dom is a administrater not talent evaluated.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2871372</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew:

That link is a recap of the draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:</p>
<p>That link is a recap of the draft.</p>
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		<title>By: Architek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Architek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kuechly in a class of his own? Try telling that to Doug Martin who tested that theory in Carolina!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuechly in a class of his own? Try telling that to Doug Martin who tested that theory in Carolina!</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2870815</link>
		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life tough, get a helmet. 

Josh deals or he&#039;s out after this season. That simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life tough, get a helmet. </p>
<p>Josh deals or he&#8217;s out after this season. That simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2870813</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@4everBucsFan - Hate to break it to you, since you know everything, but Jagodzinski was fired in 2009, not 2010, and Olson stepped in to call plays for Byron Leftwich. So pretty much everything you just wrote is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4everBucsFan &#8211; Hate to break it to you, since you know everything, but Jagodzinski was fired in 2009, not 2010, and Olson stepped in to call plays for Byron Leftwich. So pretty much everything you just wrote is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: 4everBucsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>4everBucsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@chris

You sir have a tiny memory or you just simply ignore the facts.

In Josh&#039;s first full year, 2010, In a stunning move 10 days before the start of the regular season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers dismissed offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski. That means what Josh had learned at the end of 2009 and 2010&#039;s training camp was history and he then had to learn a whole new system during that season as he played. After that season of learning on the job the NFL locked out players from their coaches and Camp in the beginning of 2011 and basically Josh spent the second year continually learning and trying to master the schemes during regular season play. Move forward 2012 new Head Coach new offensive system. 

I sir, see why there was no stability and continuity for a 23 year old QB because I don&#039;t refuse to include some of the facts as they are laid out, unlike you in your one man crusade to discredit Josh completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chris</p>
<p>You sir have a tiny memory or you just simply ignore the facts.</p>
<p>In Josh&#8217;s first full year, 2010, In a stunning move 10 days before the start of the regular season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers dismissed offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski. That means what Josh had learned at the end of 2009 and 2010&#8242;s training camp was history and he then had to learn a whole new system during that season as he played. After that season of learning on the job the NFL locked out players from their coaches and Camp in the beginning of 2011 and basically Josh spent the second year continually learning and trying to master the schemes during regular season play. Move forward 2012 new Head Coach new offensive system. </p>
<p>I sir, see why there was no stability and continuity for a 23 year old QB because I don&#8217;t refuse to include some of the facts as they are laid out, unlike you in your one man crusade to discredit Josh completely.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2870588</link>
		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew I can&#039;t be exact, but mock drafts don&#039;t start coming out until NFL games are almost over. We&#039;re saying Jan 2012. Justin is saying he saw it in Sept 2011 around the start of NCAAF season. Few sites in Sept of 2011 were thinking about the 2012 Draft. I know Joe watched the Cornhuskers play that season. He posted it often and after seeing LaVonte David play a couple times, Joe said this kid can play and also the Bucs need to look at him. Well obviously the Bucs did just that. Joe often engages us in conversation and he may have first talked of David on a thread. The oldest posted blog I could find was Dec 11 by Joe which is a month before any mock drafts. I remember Joe talking about David before that. 

Whatever the beef Junior has on this, I have no idea. I am not wrong on this topic, and I showed Joe appreciation for opening MY EYES to Lavonte David. Now he&#039;s a Buc. Hell Yeah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew I can&#8217;t be exact, but mock drafts don&#8217;t start coming out until NFL games are almost over. We&#8217;re saying Jan 2012. Justin is saying he saw it in Sept 2011 around the start of NCAAF season. Few sites in Sept of 2011 were thinking about the 2012 Draft. I know Joe watched the Cornhuskers play that season. He posted it often and after seeing LaVonte David play a couple times, Joe said this kid can play and also the Bucs need to look at him. Well obviously the Bucs did just that. Joe often engages us in conversation and he may have first talked of David on a thread. The oldest posted blog I could find was Dec 11 by Joe which is a month before any mock drafts. I remember Joe talking about David before that. </p>
<p>Whatever the beef Junior has on this, I have no idea. I am not wrong on this topic, and I showed Joe appreciation for opening MY EYES to Lavonte David. Now he&#8217;s a Buc. Hell Yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew 1</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2870482</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[However, both your knowledge of LD along with other draft sights got me inspired to see if the kid could really play by re watching some of his old games before the draft. both of you where correct, so In my book both of you get credit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, both your knowledge of LD along with other draft sights got me inspired to see if the kid could really play by re watching some of his old games before the draft. both of you where correct, so In my book both of you get credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Joe 

Im not trying to get involved in this argument, but you did say feel free to provide a link of anyone suggesting the bucs were going to draft Lavonte David. Well... I have such a link.

http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound2_49-64.asp

Now, granted they may not have been correct about the round they had us selecting him in, but they did have us eventually drafting Lavonte David.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joe </p>
<p>Im not trying to get involved in this argument, but you did say feel free to provide a link of anyone suggesting the bucs were going to draft Lavonte David. Well&#8230; I have such a link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound2_49-64.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound2_49-64.asp</a></p>
<p>Now, granted they may not have been correct about the round they had us selecting him in, but they did have us eventually drafting Lavonte David.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=83086&#038;cpage=1#comment-2869748</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin:

Feel free to provide a link of anyone suggesting the Bucs were going to draft Lavonte David.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin:</p>
<p>Feel free to provide a link of anyone suggesting the Bucs were going to draft Lavonte David.</p>
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