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		<title>By: drbinshore</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbinshore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Bucs have holes at RT and NT&quot;...................

The Bucs DO NOT HAVE &quot;HOLES&quot; AT NOSE TACKLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roy Miller and Gary Gibson make a very good tandem at that position.....

What we need is a solid veteran UNDER TACKLE to spell McCoy and keep the rotation fresh.

ONCE AGAIN......the &quot;tilted nose tackle&quot; in this defense is not going to get a bunch of sacks....

If we bring in a &quot;pass rushing&quot; nose tackle....WE WILL GET GASHED AGAINST THE RUN.......

Roy Miller will continue to get better (he&#039;s 25yrs old) because he WILL NOT be outworked by anyone. Exactly the type of dude (physically and mentally) we need to play the tilt nose in this scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Bucs have holes at RT and NT&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The Bucs DO NOT HAVE &#8220;HOLES&#8221; AT NOSE TACKLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Roy Miller and Gary Gibson make a very good tandem at that position&#8230;..</p>
<p>What we need is a solid veteran UNDER TACKLE to spell McCoy and keep the rotation fresh.</p>
<p>ONCE AGAIN&#8230;&#8230;the &#8220;tilted nose tackle&#8221; in this defense is not going to get a bunch of sacks&#8230;.</p>
<p>If we bring in a &#8220;pass rushing&#8221; nose tackle&#8230;.WE WILL GET GASHED AGAINST THE RUN&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Roy Miller will continue to get better (he&#8217;s 25yrs old) because he WILL NOT be outworked by anyone. Exactly the type of dude (physically and mentally) we need to play the tilt nose in this scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You never know what he&#039;ll do. OL doubtful early in the draft. Bad thing is its 4 months away. I&#039;ll just have to get over it like every year at this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never know what he&#8217;ll do. OL doubtful early in the draft. Bad thing is its 4 months away. I&#8217;ll just have to get over it like every year at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=81154&#038;cpage=1#comment-2564580</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised to see the team drop a 2nd or 3rd on a TE prospect to begin to develop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised to see the team drop a 2nd or 3rd on a TE prospect to begin to develop.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=81154&#038;cpage=1#comment-2564563</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well guys, I definitely agree that Bill Sheridan&#039;s schemes this year have been disappointing, errrrrr, sucked. I also won&#039;t be disappointed if Ron Cooper goes back to college this year.  I will agree with the contention that the evaluation of DBs hasn&#039;t been as good as one would like, but let&#039;s face it: that evaluation unearthed viable players such as Leonard Johnson as a street free agent. 

The point is that if you look at the great defenses that have been in the league in recent years, they aren&#039;t built from the back forward - they&#039;re build up front first. Yes, the Bucs have some talent up front, but not enough. As such, that has to be the priority, with filling in back end talent (focusing on quantity more than high-dollar quality) is a much more successful path to take.

I guess that&#039;s one of the things that makes this fun. We can go back and forth all we want, but in the end, all we&#039;re doing is chattering. It&#039;s MD&#039;s call, and I trust that he&#039;ll make the right calls in the draft. I just fully expect that it&#039;ll be top-heavy on the DL and OL, with depth choices (third round and later) on a couple of CBs, another RB and likely a safety (all of whom will need to play special teams).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well guys, I definitely agree that Bill Sheridan&#8217;s schemes this year have been disappointing, errrrrr, sucked. I also won&#8217;t be disappointed if Ron Cooper goes back to college this year.  I will agree with the contention that the evaluation of DBs hasn&#8217;t been as good as one would like, but let&#8217;s face it: that evaluation unearthed viable players such as Leonard Johnson as a street free agent. </p>
<p>The point is that if you look at the great defenses that have been in the league in recent years, they aren&#8217;t built from the back forward &#8211; they&#8217;re build up front first. Yes, the Bucs have some talent up front, but not enough. As such, that has to be the priority, with filling in back end talent (focusing on quantity more than high-dollar quality) is a much more successful path to take.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s one of the things that makes this fun. We can go back and forth all we want, but in the end, all we&#8217;re doing is chattering. It&#8217;s MD&#8217;s call, and I trust that he&#8217;ll make the right calls in the draft. I just fully expect that it&#8217;ll be top-heavy on the DL and OL, with depth choices (third round and later) on a couple of CBs, another RB and likely a safety (all of whom will need to play special teams).</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our front definitely does not lack talent.

IMO our pass rush suffered from a terrible defensive scheme that focused on &quot;stunting&quot; all the time instead of just attacking the QB.

As far as Brian Kelly and Dwight Smith, im not trying to be disagreeable but both of those guys were absolute ball hawks, they had great coverage skills. I believe Brian Kelly lead the league with 8 picks our Super Bowl season? Dwight had 2 pick sixes in the SB? Of course I&#039;m not sayin the DB&#039;s didnt benefit from the pass rush but they were certainly good at what they did. They were &quot;starters&quot; unlike who we have playing for us now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our front definitely does not lack talent.</p>
<p>IMO our pass rush suffered from a terrible defensive scheme that focused on &#8220;stunting&#8221; all the time instead of just attacking the QB.</p>
<p>As far as Brian Kelly and Dwight Smith, im not trying to be disagreeable but both of those guys were absolute ball hawks, they had great coverage skills. I believe Brian Kelly lead the league with 8 picks our Super Bowl season? Dwight had 2 pick sixes in the SB? Of course I&#8217;m not sayin the DB&#8217;s didnt benefit from the pass rush but they were certainly good at what they did. They were &#8220;starters&#8221; unlike who we have playing for us now.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 EJ Biggers would just equal twice the sucking. Sheridan perfected the &quot;cover nobody&quot; defense. Pass rush makes a difference for sure but our DB&#039;s got burned on 1 and 2 step drops, they got burned trying to bump receivers, they got burned when 3 of th were all covering a single receiver. They redefined the word &quot;burn&quot; in their cover nobody defense. Leonard Johnaon has improved and learned to start turning his head around, and for a rookie FA, he shouldn&#039;t have been put in that position in the first place. I fear they will draft more inferior corners no matter what round. They are very bad at evaluating CB&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 EJ Biggers would just equal twice the sucking. Sheridan perfected the &#8220;cover nobody&#8221; defense. Pass rush makes a difference for sure but our DB&#8217;s got burned on 1 and 2 step drops, they got burned trying to bump receivers, they got burned when 3 of th were all covering a single receiver. They redefined the word &#8220;burn&#8221; in their cover nobody defense. Leonard Johnaon has improved and learned to start turning his head around, and for a rookie FA, he shouldn&#8217;t have been put in that position in the first place. I fear they will draft more inferior corners no matter what round. They are very bad at evaluating CB&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barron was a surprise pick at 7 by the Bucs. They hyped him up after drafting him saying that he fit their needs better than anyone else in the draft (doesn&#039;t every team say that?), but there wasn&#039;t any chatter about Barron going any higher than 14th last year (ironically, to Dallas).  That being said, I&#039;m happy with Barron and the job he did in his first year, up and down as it was. Had the Bucs drafted Claiborne, he&#039;d have been toasted just as much as the DBs they already have, because quality DB play is dependent on a push up front. You could put Darrell Revis with Darrell Green in his prime on this team, and they&#039;d still get toasted just like these guys.

Listen, the QBs in this league are too good. They&#039;ll pick apart any defense if they have time. The Bucs front seven did a remarkable job against the rush this year, but lets face it, they started going south the day that Adrian Clayborn went out with his knee. From that point, teams could double Gerald McCoy, and the only other push they received was the occasional sack from Michael Bennett.  

I&#039;ll contend that if they had gotten a healthy season from Clayborn resulting in a more consistent pass rush, the panic that we see about the CBs would be far less. If they can generate a consistent pass rush without having to blitz, they can put two EJ Biggers back there and be successful against the pass. This is how the Bucs won their first Super Bowl - it certainly wasn&#039;t that Dwight Smith and Brian Kelly were Pro Bowl players, because they were solid but little more. They benefited from a wicked front four.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barron was a surprise pick at 7 by the Bucs. They hyped him up after drafting him saying that he fit their needs better than anyone else in the draft (doesn&#8217;t every team say that?), but there wasn&#8217;t any chatter about Barron going any higher than 14th last year (ironically, to Dallas).  That being said, I&#8217;m happy with Barron and the job he did in his first year, up and down as it was. Had the Bucs drafted Claiborne, he&#8217;d have been toasted just as much as the DBs they already have, because quality DB play is dependent on a push up front. You could put Darrell Revis with Darrell Green in his prime on this team, and they&#8217;d still get toasted just like these guys.</p>
<p>Listen, the QBs in this league are too good. They&#8217;ll pick apart any defense if they have time. The Bucs front seven did a remarkable job against the rush this year, but lets face it, they started going south the day that Adrian Clayborn went out with his knee. From that point, teams could double Gerald McCoy, and the only other push they received was the occasional sack from Michael Bennett.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll contend that if they had gotten a healthy season from Clayborn resulting in a more consistent pass rush, the panic that we see about the CBs would be far less. If they can generate a consistent pass rush without having to blitz, they can put two EJ Biggers back there and be successful against the pass. This is how the Bucs won their first Super Bowl &#8211; it certainly wasn&#8217;t that Dwight Smith and Brian Kelly were Pro Bowl players, because they were solid but little more. They benefited from a wicked front four.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biggers dropped 2 balls today that should have been easy picks. Biggers sucks because coverage was decent but good CB&#039;s make those INT&#039;s and he never does. Biggers sucks and is a major reason the secondary sucks. But for a 7&#039;th round pick what do you expect? An inconsistent CB that sucks quite often. Too bad Schiano didn&#039;t light up his CB&#039;s 15 games ago. Too little too late, but still a nice win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biggers dropped 2 balls today that should have been easy picks. Biggers sucks because coverage was decent but good CB&#8217;s make those INT&#8217;s and he never does. Biggers sucks and is a major reason the secondary sucks. But for a 7&#8242;th round pick what do you expect? An inconsistent CB that sucks quite often. Too bad Schiano didn&#8217;t light up his CB&#8217;s 15 games ago. Too little too late, but still a nice win.</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whoops dont know why it did that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops dont know why it did that</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=81154&#038;cpage=1#comment-2564135</link>
		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes but we didn&#039;t have the disaster of CB&#039;s last offseason that we do now. Aquib and Wright looked like the solution. Also at the time most people agreed that although Claiborne was good, Barron was a once in a blue moon type Safety as well. Most drafts already have us taking Milliner and unless we go out and get Grimes/Sean Smith/ or DRC, i don&#039;t see a bigger priority. That is our biggest NEED]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but we didn&#8217;t have the disaster of CB&#8217;s last offseason that we do now. Aquib and Wright looked like the solution. Also at the time most people agreed that although Claiborne was good, Barron was a once in a blue moon type Safety as well. Most drafts already have us taking Milliner and unless we go out and get Grimes/Sean Smith/ or DRC, i don&#8217;t see a bigger priority. That is our biggest NEED</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes but we didn&#039;t have the disaster of CB&#039;s last offseason that we do now. Aquib and Wright looked like the solution. Also at the time most people agreed that although Claiborne was good, Barron was a once in a blue moon type Safety as well. Most drafts already have us taking Milliner and unless we go out and get Grimes/Sean Smith/ or DRC, i don&#039;t see a bigger priority. That is our biggest NEED]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but we didn&#8217;t have the disaster of CB&#8217;s last offseason that we do now. Aquib and Wright looked like the solution. Also at the time most people agreed that although Claiborne was good, Barron was a once in a blue moon type Safety as well. Most drafts already have us taking Milliner and unless we go out and get Grimes/Sean Smith/ or DRC, i don&#8217;t see a bigger priority. That is our biggest NEED</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a smart move PRBucFan, and I&#039;ll tell you why it won&#039;t happen. Matter of fact, I&#039;d place a pretty stout wager that in spite of the lousy state of the Bucs&#039; pass defense this year, I don&#039;t think the team&#039;s front office places that high of a priority on DBs - never have.

Instead, smart teams (and I count Dominik and his front office in this group) put the prioritized share of their cap money on QB, then DL and finally OL. All other positions are based on need (such as Vincent Jackson this year). On top of that, the two positions where high draft picks flop most seem to be WR and CB.

It all depends on how the FA season goes. I expect they&#039;ll find at least two DBs (if Ronde retires, one if he stays) as free agents, lessening the need for a draft in that position. Instead, I fully expect them to draft either a RT (the Matthews kid from A&amp;M makes sense) or a DL for depth in round one.

If Dominik and his staff truly valued CBs in the draft, they&#039;d have never passed up a CB who fell into their lap at #5 last year, one that is a clearly superior prospect to any CB in this year&#039;s draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a smart move PRBucFan, and I&#8217;ll tell you why it won&#8217;t happen. Matter of fact, I&#8217;d place a pretty stout wager that in spite of the lousy state of the Bucs&#8217; pass defense this year, I don&#8217;t think the team&#8217;s front office places that high of a priority on DBs &#8211; never have.</p>
<p>Instead, smart teams (and I count Dominik and his front office in this group) put the prioritized share of their cap money on QB, then DL and finally OL. All other positions are based on need (such as Vincent Jackson this year). On top of that, the two positions where high draft picks flop most seem to be WR and CB.</p>
<p>It all depends on how the FA season goes. I expect they&#8217;ll find at least two DBs (if Ronde retires, one if he stays) as free agents, lessening the need for a draft in that position. Instead, I fully expect them to draft either a RT (the Matthews kid from A&amp;M makes sense) or a DL for depth in round one.</p>
<p>If Dominik and his staff truly valued CBs in the draft, they&#8217;d have never passed up a CB who fell into their lap at #5 last year, one that is a clearly superior prospect to any CB in this year&#8217;s draft.</p>
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