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	<title>Comments on: Mike Martz Bullish On Josh Freeman</title>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80837&#038;cpage=2#comment-2536327</link>
		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya next year should suffice as plenty of time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya next year should suffice as plenty of time</p>
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		<title>By: SilenceTheCritics</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80837&#038;cpage=2#comment-2535747</link>
		<dc:creator>SilenceTheCritics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll be very interesting to see the excuses you all come up with this time next year if and when Free goes 6 and 10 or worse yet again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be very interesting to see the excuses you all come up with this time next year if and when Free goes 6 and 10 or worse yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
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		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you expect josh to get better when one week he has protection. Next week its wear this DT on your chest and take this DE up the a$$. For his whole career. Give him some credit. It would be funny if it clicked for Freeway and it was the offensive players who had it wrong. Just a thought.

We have all seen what Freeway can do with a little time in the socket. Electrical &quot; J-5 is alive&quot; there you go Joe Ima make ya famous stick wit me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you expect josh to get better when one week he has protection. Next week its wear this DT on your chest and take this DE up the a$$. For his whole career. Give him some credit. It would be funny if it clicked for Freeway and it was the offensive players who had it wrong. Just a thought.</p>
<p>We have all seen what Freeway can do with a little time in the socket. Electrical &#8221; J-5 is alive&#8221; there you go Joe Ima make ya famous stick wit me!</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PR I&#039;ll make it about playoffs then..... Out of all the quarterbacks drafted since Freeman in 2009. 8 quarterbacks(including this year) have made the playoffs: Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, RG3, T.J. Yates(a backup), Andy Dalton, Tim Tebow, Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. Seeing how Freeman is better than T.J Yates, Tim Tebow, and Mark Sanchez I would give him time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PR I&#8217;ll make it about playoffs then&#8230;.. Out of all the quarterbacks drafted since Freeman in 2009. 8 quarterbacks(including this year) have made the playoffs: Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, RG3, T.J. Yates(a backup), Andy Dalton, Tim Tebow, Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. Seeing how Freeman is better than T.J Yates, Tim Tebow, and Mark Sanchez I would give him time.</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t say much about our franchise history now does it lolol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t say much about our franchise history now does it lolol</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80837&#038;cpage=2#comment-2534981</link>
		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say this like the general from &quot;full metal jacket&quot;

Since you can&#039;t understand me don&#039;t let me catch you using my slang and nicknames for my bucs.

MAGGOTRONS!

PS. YOUR EASY GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING SACBUCS IS READ MY POST WITH THE ACTORS VOICE. Thanks lmao]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say this like the general from &#8220;full metal jacket&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you can&#8217;t understand me don&#8217;t let me catch you using my slang and nicknames for my bucs.</p>
<p>MAGGOTRONS!</p>
<p>PS. YOUR EASY GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING SACBUCS IS READ MY POST WITH THE ACTORS VOICE. Thanks lmao</p>
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		<title>By: raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80837&#038;cpage=1#comment-2534969</link>
		<dc:creator>raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prbuc get a clue will, our defense is what sucks , NOT the Qb.....he is the best in franchise history...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prbuc get a clue will, our defense is what sucks , NOT the Qb&#8230;..he is the best in franchise history&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gus you think anyone that matters looks at anything but the here and now? The only stat they are going to ultimately measure Free Free by is his win/loss. You can have the prettiest stats in the world but if they don&#039;t equate to getting W&#039;s they are pointless. It&#039;s a team sport yes, but it just so happens that the bulk of the weight when it comes to results lands on the QB. Like it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gus you think anyone that matters looks at anything but the here and now? The only stat they are going to ultimately measure Free Free by is his win/loss. You can have the prettiest stats in the world but if they don&#8217;t equate to getting W&#8217;s they are pointless. It&#8217;s a team sport yes, but it just so happens that the bulk of the weight when it comes to results lands on the QB. Like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80837&#038;cpage=1#comment-2534855</link>
		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ian &amp; @Brandon those players ya spoke of were all starter for the bucs. So why they can&#039;t get a starting job on 32 TEAMS? Thats the question? 

Read this like Mater from Cars then you can understand me professor keen beans: You know who u r!

I&#039;ll answer my own question, because I can see clearly now thanks to you homers on the site. Cheap skates-untalented talent evaluators. Our starter can&#039;t even make the PS on all 32 teams. One or two years after most players leave the bucs they are 86d from the league! After getting paid by the bucs for years and never produce.(Mo Stovall) Some players get paid ,ride the bench for years and never touch the field.(Nicholson Hayward) character guys lmao. Far to many to list, but one comes to mind.

 Kenyatta &quot;1st rnd bust&quot; Walker, who imo should of never been drafted, paid or a buccaneer. He is responsible for getting our qb&#039;s killed his whole football career. The bucs havent had a solid oline thats stayed together yet. Say the SB year Homers (go google that b/c I&#039;m going off memory on my intel brain pentium) but it was soft til we got McDaniel&amp;Christy. Christy laid the Great Ray Lewis on his back thats when he coined his famous rant &quot; Ima machine jerk&quot; thats who sugar ray was yelling at. We still aint replaced him even though he came thru FA. No disrespect Zuttah cause you are the best center since Christy. Larsen is weak he getting pushed in Freeway lap. Ted blocked a lil better next to Hardman send both they arse to GB.

My point: We have been putting together piece of crap Olines for 15 f-ings years and you blind bats xpect any qb to progress with DOWN SET SACK. Our qb&#039;s are running for there lives ask trent dilfer,and have been up until NOW. The SB year, 2010 and this year is the most time I have ever seen a qb have in Tampa.

Josh is amazed he aint on his back already thats why his timing is off. He cant throw short routes then take them out. When are we gonna get a oc that plays to josh strengths ala cam&amp;rg3 not the other way around. 

That&#039;s the problem Ya grammer police.

 What does that say to ya homers. For me that tells me to break my 15 year streak of loyal fan on sunday, if I was going to waste my life, emotions, I couldve been at church. Lol Instead of wasting my hard earned money on gas going to the sports bar miles away. Just to see them piece together a ok team. I can watch my favorite team get torched win or lose on ESPN. I wanna represent a DYNASTY. Its hard to be a Die Hard (southern twang) since Yall good folk informed me.


 THE ORGANIZATION is part of a bigger picture in sports. Look the nfl never wanted us to win the SB. They jip us in Stl with the famous bert emmanuel rule. Then make a stinking new rule after ripping our hearts out. Those were the DYNASTY years. 

The officals F more games up to me calling shh they dont call on other teams. Its a conspiracy Clonez!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian &amp; @Brandon those players ya spoke of were all starter for the bucs. So why they can&#8217;t get a starting job on 32 TEAMS? Thats the question? </p>
<p>Read this like Mater from Cars then you can understand me professor keen beans: You know who u r!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll answer my own question, because I can see clearly now thanks to you homers on the site. Cheap skates-untalented talent evaluators. Our starter can&#8217;t even make the PS on all 32 teams. One or two years after most players leave the bucs they are 86d from the league! After getting paid by the bucs for years and never produce.(Mo Stovall) Some players get paid ,ride the bench for years and never touch the field.(Nicholson Hayward) character guys lmao. Far to many to list, but one comes to mind.</p>
<p> Kenyatta &#8220;1st rnd bust&#8221; Walker, who imo should of never been drafted, paid or a buccaneer. He is responsible for getting our qb&#8217;s killed his whole football career. The bucs havent had a solid oline thats stayed together yet. Say the SB year Homers (go google that b/c I&#8217;m going off memory on my intel brain pentium) but it was soft til we got McDaniel&amp;Christy. Christy laid the Great Ray Lewis on his back thats when he coined his famous rant &#8221; Ima machine jerk&#8221; thats who sugar ray was yelling at. We still aint replaced him even though he came thru FA. No disrespect Zuttah cause you are the best center since Christy. Larsen is weak he getting pushed in Freeway lap. Ted blocked a lil better next to Hardman send both they arse to GB.</p>
<p>My point: We have been putting together piece of crap Olines for 15 f-ings years and you blind bats xpect any qb to progress with DOWN SET SACK. Our qb&#8217;s are running for there lives ask trent dilfer,and have been up until NOW. The SB year, 2010 and this year is the most time I have ever seen a qb have in Tampa.</p>
<p>Josh is amazed he aint on his back already thats why his timing is off. He cant throw short routes then take them out. When are we gonna get a oc that plays to josh strengths ala cam&amp;rg3 not the other way around. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem Ya grammer police.</p>
<p> What does that say to ya homers. For me that tells me to break my 15 year streak of loyal fan on sunday, if I was going to waste my life, emotions, I couldve been at church. Lol Instead of wasting my hard earned money on gas going to the sports bar miles away. Just to see them piece together a ok team. I can watch my favorite team get torched win or lose on ESPN. I wanna represent a DYNASTY. Its hard to be a Die Hard (southern twang) since Yall good folk informed me.</p>
<p> THE ORGANIZATION is part of a bigger picture in sports. Look the nfl never wanted us to win the SB. They jip us in Stl with the famous bert emmanuel rule. Then make a stinking new rule after ripping our hearts out. Those were the DYNASTY years. </p>
<p>The officals F more games up to me calling shh they dont call on other teams. Its a conspiracy Clonez!</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@SteveK we went over this already ITS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM!
Stats dont lie: (from Bucsnation.com)
Folks, in Josh Freeman&#039;s young career:

He&#039;s completed over 60% of his passes in two of his three full seasons as a starter.
He&#039;s thrown for at least 3,400 yards and 17 touchdowns in each season as a starter
He&#039;s broken the Bucs single season passing yardage mark this season.
With one touchdown pass against the Falcons this week, he&#039;ll break the single season TD pass record.
With 157 yds passing he&#039;ll be the first 4,000 yd passer in team history (Eli, Roethlisberger, Brees, Brady didn&#039;t do it until their sixth seasons).
He&#039;s already had a season where he posted a 95.9 QB rating (2010), Eli has never achieved that high of a rating in his career.
This season, only five QBs in the league have more touchdown passes than Freeman.
No player in the league has completed more 40+ yd passing plays than Freeman (16).
Freeman is tied with Tom Brady and Tony Romo for 7th in passes over 20-39 yds (52).
Over 20+ yds, Freeman has completed 68 plays. Only Drew Brees (74), Andrew Luck (73), Joe Flacco (71) have completed more.
If the Bucs score 28 points against the Falcons this Sunday, Josh will have quarterbacked the most prolific scoring offense in Buccaneer history.
He is +10 in td-to-interceptions, tied for 9th in the NFL
He&#039;s missed just one start in 55 games.
His 4.2 TD-to-Int ration in 2010 (25 TDs, 6 ints) was the 11th best in NFL history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SteveK we went over this already ITS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM!<br />
Stats dont lie: (from Bucsnation.com)<br />
Folks, in Josh Freeman&#8217;s young career:</p>
<p>He&#8217;s completed over 60% of his passes in two of his three full seasons as a starter.<br />
He&#8217;s thrown for at least 3,400 yards and 17 touchdowns in each season as a starter<br />
He&#8217;s broken the Bucs single season passing yardage mark this season.<br />
With one touchdown pass against the Falcons this week, he&#8217;ll break the single season TD pass record.<br />
With 157 yds passing he&#8217;ll be the first 4,000 yd passer in team history (Eli, Roethlisberger, Brees, Brady didn&#8217;t do it until their sixth seasons).<br />
He&#8217;s already had a season where he posted a 95.9 QB rating (2010), Eli has never achieved that high of a rating in his career.<br />
This season, only five QBs in the league have more touchdown passes than Freeman.<br />
No player in the league has completed more 40+ yd passing plays than Freeman (16).<br />
Freeman is tied with Tom Brady and Tony Romo for 7th in passes over 20-39 yds (52).<br />
Over 20+ yds, Freeman has completed 68 plays. Only Drew Brees (74), Andrew Luck (73), Joe Flacco (71) have completed more.<br />
If the Bucs score 28 points against the Falcons this Sunday, Josh will have quarterbacked the most prolific scoring offense in Buccaneer history.<br />
He is +10 in td-to-interceptions, tied for 9th in the NFL<br />
He&#8217;s missed just one start in 55 games.<br />
His 4.2 TD-to-Int ration in 2010 (25 TDs, 6 ints) was the 11th best in NFL history.</p>
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		<title>By: SilenceTheCritics</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilenceTheCritics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion right now the best thing for Josh Freeman is for people to tell him the truth and stop coddleing him. If we continue to baby this guy he will never take it upon himself to get better. But maybe if he realizes that a majority of people who actually watch him play on sundays think he&#039;s a lost cause, that might just wake his ass up to play better. But I do know if we continue to pat him on the back and make these excuses he will never fix these issues or amount to anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion right now the best thing for Josh Freeman is for people to tell him the truth and stop coddleing him. If we continue to baby this guy he will never take it upon himself to get better. But maybe if he realizes that a majority of people who actually watch him play on sundays think he&#8217;s a lost cause, that might just wake his ass up to play better. But I do know if we continue to pat him on the back and make these excuses he will never fix these issues or amount to anything.</p>
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		<title>By: buccanay</title>
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		<dc:creator>buccanay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is rare for me, as I rarely call posters complete idiots..BUT the one&#039;s bashing Mike Williams are IDIOTS!!!.  If not for Williams, Freemans comp % would be in the 30 % range.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rare for me, as I rarely call posters complete idiots..BUT the one&#8217;s bashing Mike Williams are IDIOTS!!!.  If not for Williams, Freemans comp % would be in the 30 % range.</p>
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