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	<title>Comments on: The Glaring Difference Between Brees, Freeman</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2476502</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is asinine---Drew Brees has played in the same offense  for 7 years...Josh Freeman has played in the same offense for 14 games. This commentary comparing the two is almost criminal in its incompetence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is asinine&#8212;Drew Brees has played in the same offense  for 7 years&#8230;Josh Freeman has played in the same offense for 14 games. This commentary comparing the two is almost criminal in its incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: Oahubuc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2475943</link>
		<dc:creator>Oahubuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the huddle, you are looking into the eyes of an Alpha if you are the saints.  You are looking at a scared little boy if you are the Bucs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the huddle, you are looking into the eyes of an Alpha if you are the saints.  You are looking at a scared little boy if you are the Bucs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramdog</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2475353</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kansasbucs fan good point lets trade for Tom Brady. Oh wait that will never happen.

Brady is a better QB than Eli stats bear that out. The point is the Giants played better and were able to beat who ?? Tom Brady - twice and once they had Randy Moss and were dominant the entire season winning 18 in a row until then. However, our defense in no stretch of the imagination has any semblance of resemblance to the Giants defense except we may have better linebackers. 

LOL good point about his lineage if lineage that were the case how come Chris Simms didn&#039;t develop into Phil Simms or Brian Griese into Tom Griese ?? That is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. He is a QB not a show dog or race horse. I guess all the BUCS needs to do is breed Joe Montana with Johnny Unitas&#039;es daughter imagine how great a QB we could have in 20 or so years.

Now Freeman may never develop into Eli but until we draft or sign someone the clowns on this site should realize the real problem is not him but the defense in particular the defensive backs. Now that may be scheme or whatever. Also if we draft a new QB how much time do we give him to develop before we oust him ? Also for the some of the teams you are sighting lets see how these rookies stand the test of time before we annoint them superstars - OK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kansasbucs fan good point lets trade for Tom Brady. Oh wait that will never happen.</p>
<p>Brady is a better QB than Eli stats bear that out. The point is the Giants played better and were able to beat who ?? Tom Brady &#8211; twice and once they had Randy Moss and were dominant the entire season winning 18 in a row until then. However, our defense in no stretch of the imagination has any semblance of resemblance to the Giants defense except we may have better linebackers. </p>
<p>LOL good point about his lineage if lineage that were the case how come Chris Simms didn&#8217;t develop into Phil Simms or Brian Griese into Tom Griese ?? That is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. He is a QB not a show dog or race horse. I guess all the BUCS needs to do is breed Joe Montana with Johnny Unitas&#8217;es daughter imagine how great a QB we could have in 20 or so years.</p>
<p>Now Freeman may never develop into Eli but until we draft or sign someone the clowns on this site should realize the real problem is not him but the defense in particular the defensive backs. Now that may be scheme or whatever. Also if we draft a new QB how much time do we give him to develop before we oust him ? Also for the some of the teams you are sighting lets see how these rookies stand the test of time before we annoint them superstars &#8211; OK.</p>
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		<title>By: PRBucFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2474112</link>
		<dc:creator>PRBucFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Freeman is not struggling, he is spiraling downward and fast. He&#039;s having a mental lapse that should not be a common &quot;struggle&quot; for a starting QB in the NFL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freeman is not struggling, he is spiraling downward and fast. He&#8217;s having a mental lapse that should not be a common &#8220;struggle&#8221; for a starting QB in the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473974</link>
		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And please stop comparing Freeman to Eli.  Yes Eli had some major struggles but is far supperior to Freeman in many ways even when he was struggling.  Eli has a brain that can disect and interpret a defense, he has excellent mechanics, he throws a very accurate intermediate pass (5-15 yards), Eli has a pedigree (the Manning family).  Freeman has none of those attributes and never will.  He still throws nearly every pass off his back or front foot (AFTER 4 YEARS IN THE NFL!).

Also stop comparing Freeman to Drew Brees.  OMG are you freaking kidding me!?!?  Freeman was 5-7 his senior year at K-state and just like now he gets most of his yards by heaving up hail marrys against very weaker opponents.  For instance his game against North Texas... Wow great job against North Teaxas, Louisianna Lafeyyette and Montana State what happened against - Nebraska, Missou, Texas AM and Oklahoma?  The same thing that happens when he plays the Giants, Cowboys, Carolina or any team with a decent defense.  LOSER.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And please stop comparing Freeman to Eli.  Yes Eli had some major struggles but is far supperior to Freeman in many ways even when he was struggling.  Eli has a brain that can disect and interpret a defense, he has excellent mechanics, he throws a very accurate intermediate pass (5-15 yards), Eli has a pedigree (the Manning family).  Freeman has none of those attributes and never will.  He still throws nearly every pass off his back or front foot (AFTER 4 YEARS IN THE NFL!).</p>
<p>Also stop comparing Freeman to Drew Brees.  OMG are you freaking kidding me!?!?  Freeman was 5-7 his senior year at K-state and just like now he gets most of his yards by heaving up hail marrys against very weaker opponents.  For instance his game against North Texas&#8230; Wow great job against North Teaxas, Louisianna Lafeyyette and Montana State what happened against &#8211; Nebraska, Missou, Texas AM and Oklahoma?  The same thing that happens when he plays the Giants, Cowboys, Carolina or any team with a decent defense.  LOSER.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePhenom4</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473923</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePhenom4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im curious to know [&lt;em&gt;that&#039;s a bit out of line -- Joe&lt;/em&gt;] had to say about Brees confidence and poise when he dropped 5 INTs against the Falcons.  Freeman will be just fine, Im sick and tired of everyone coming out of the woodwork bashing him when he struggles but when hes plays mint the Free Bashers are nowhere to be found!! Im as diehard Bucs fan as they come and also frustrated but the problem is with the secondary, they can never hold a lead.  Our QB situation could be ALOT worse and we finally have some stability there and not the QB carousel we had the under Gruden and Raheem.  We are still rebuilding this team with new players and coaches together for the 1st year.  It will get better as will Freeman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im curious to know [<em>that's a bit out of line -- Joe</em>] had to say about Brees confidence and poise when he dropped 5 INTs against the Falcons.  Freeman will be just fine, Im sick and tired of everyone coming out of the woodwork bashing him when he struggles but when hes plays mint the Free Bashers are nowhere to be found!! Im as diehard Bucs fan as they come and also frustrated but the problem is with the secondary, they can never hold a lead.  Our QB situation could be ALOT worse and we finally have some stability there and not the QB carousel we had the under Gruden and Raheem.  We are still rebuilding this team with new players and coaches together for the 1st year.  It will get better as will Freeman</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473902</link>
		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What will winning these last two games do except lower our draft status?  The Bucs needed to win the last two games to stay in it and they failed BIG TIME!Freeman sucks as a franchise QB.  We need to start looking to replace him now in THIS draft not the next one.  Nick Foles, Colin Kaepernick, Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson were all found after the first round.  We need to spend one of our draft picks on a QB that has a pair of BALLS.  OUT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will winning these last two games do except lower our draft status?  The Bucs needed to win the last two games to stay in it and they failed BIG TIME!Freeman sucks as a franchise QB.  We need to start looking to replace him now in THIS draft not the next one.  Nick Foles, Colin Kaepernick, Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson were all found after the first round.  We need to spend one of our draft picks on a QB that has a pair of BALLS.  OUT!</p>
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		<title>By: OAR</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473881</link>
		<dc:creator>OAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Freeman needs real competition at his position. I don&#039; mean a real good back-up, I mean a QB that could actually start and/or push Freeman. He&#039;s never had any real competition for his position/job!
BTW his knocks coming out of college accuracy and reading defenses are exactly what we are seeing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freeman needs real competition at his position. I don&#8217; mean a real good back-up, I mean a QB that could actually start and/or push Freeman. He&#8217;s never had any real competition for his position/job!<br />
BTW his knocks coming out of college accuracy and reading defenses are exactly what we are seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: buccanay</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473770</link>
		<dc:creator>buccanay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the days of Freeman being &quot;coddled&quot; are OVER, at least, I hope they are.  There was no doubt how Raheem &#039;babied&#039; Free, and he was above criticism and even Shiano, up to now has offered excuses.  But, from this point forward, I think the &quot;honeymoon&quot; is over from the organizations standpoint. As we know, Shiano is not &quot;married&quot; to Freeman, and I think he&#039;s gonna demand more accountability from Free, especially reading how he used QB&#039;s at Rutgers. Freeman NEEDS competition, it will bring the best out of him. IMO, I think Freeman&#039;s been &quot;coddled&quot; his entire life. Even his mannerisms and body language reak of &quot;brattiness&quot; and immaturity.  Time for Josh to grow up and be a man, be accountable, and lead by example.  He&#039;s got the physical tools, hopefully, he&#039;s got the mental tools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the days of Freeman being &#8220;coddled&#8221; are OVER, at least, I hope they are.  There was no doubt how Raheem &#8216;babied&#8217; Free, and he was above criticism and even Shiano, up to now has offered excuses.  But, from this point forward, I think the &#8220;honeymoon&#8221; is over from the organizations standpoint. As we know, Shiano is not &#8220;married&#8221; to Freeman, and I think he&#8217;s gonna demand more accountability from Free, especially reading how he used QB&#8217;s at Rutgers. Freeman NEEDS competition, it will bring the best out of him. IMO, I think Freeman&#8217;s been &#8220;coddled&#8221; his entire life. Even his mannerisms and body language reak of &#8220;brattiness&#8221; and immaturity.  Time for Josh to grow up and be a man, be accountable, and lead by example.  He&#8217;s got the physical tools, hopefully, he&#8217;s got the mental tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=80358&#038;cpage=1#comment-2473734</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didnt Drew Brees have a 5 INT game earlier this year?
From Rotoworld
Drew Brees completed 28-of-50 passes for 341 yards, no touchdowns, and a career-worst five interceptions in Thursday night&#039;s Week 13, 23-13 loss to the Falcons.
Brees was out of sorts right from the start, throwing an end zone interception on the opening drive, and it never got better, as he ended the night with his fifth pick. His NFL record 54 consecutive-games-with-a-touchdown-pass streak was snapped in the loss as well. Good throws from Brees were few and far between. He consistently threw behind receivers,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didnt Drew Brees have a 5 INT game earlier this year?<br />
From Rotoworld<br />
Drew Brees completed 28-of-50 passes for 341 yards, no touchdowns, and a career-worst five interceptions in Thursday night&#8217;s Week 13, 23-13 loss to the Falcons.<br />
Brees was out of sorts right from the start, throwing an end zone interception on the opening drive, and it never got better, as he ended the night with his fifth pick. His NFL record 54 consecutive-games-with-a-touchdown-pass streak was snapped in the loss as well. Good throws from Brees were few and far between. He consistently threw behind receivers,</p>
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		<title>By: Kansasbuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kansasbuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ramdog

The answer to your question, &quot;who has more superbowls?&quot; is Tom Brady]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ramdog</p>
<p>The answer to your question, &#8220;who has more superbowls?&#8221; is Tom Brady</p>
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		<title>By: SilenceTheCritics</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilenceTheCritics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can make all the excuses in the world you want for Free. New coaches, new offense, new players, yada, yada. But there are certain things you cant make excuses for such as why his accuracy is piss poor for a 4th year QB. Thats unacceptable. I&#039;m holding out hope that he still is our future but man he is making this really hard on any non blind homer. He has serious flaws in his game and if he is as hard of a worker as most say he is then maybe... he just isnt cut out to be a starting QB in this league. You cant win only playing 1 or 2 quarters of good football a game, I dont care who you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make all the excuses in the world you want for Free. New coaches, new offense, new players, yada, yada. But there are certain things you cant make excuses for such as why his accuracy is piss poor for a 4th year QB. Thats unacceptable. I&#8217;m holding out hope that he still is our future but man he is making this really hard on any non blind homer. He has serious flaws in his game and if he is as hard of a worker as most say he is then maybe&#8230; he just isnt cut out to be a starting QB in this league. You cant win only playing 1 or 2 quarters of good football a game, I dont care who you are.</p>
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