Comments on: Will Goodell Step In To Punish Adam Hayward?

By: Red86

Red86 — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:04:05 +0000

That funny. You talk about repsect is earn not given. Tell me when you first meet a new person. Do you punch them? Beat them down? Cuss them out? That’s statement is nothing but a worthless talking point compared to the Golden Rule you and other uses. Treating other as you wish to be treated is basically saying, give respect to get respect and vice versa. If you push someon, then most likely a push or an altercation is going to happen… duh!!

The point is this. Cox started the incident. Period. Would it been any different if Schiano tried to guide Cox back instead when Schiano has multiple responsiblities? Who knows. The point I’m making is that it’s a great thing Hayward tried to do. He was compose and aware that we can’t afford a penalty to make things worst. Cox wasn’t composed and aware of the situation.

All the focus is on Hayward. But none every thought that Cox couldn’t hurt his on player or cause an injury all because he wouldn’t get back on the side line.

@ctord: If I want to push my boss like what happen on the field, then I would have to wait for them to push me first. That call seeing how thing really happen. Harward has no history of doing things like the way you and joe protraying this incident.

By: Back The Buc Up

Back The Buc Up — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:01:43 +0000

Not sure if Hayward knows who is coach really is. Cox used to go off on people. I remember him fighting someone from the Raiders back when he was a Dolphin. On a field of huge angry men, he was not the guy to mess with. As far as the shoving goes, it did look like Hayward was trying to calm Cox down, but Hayward should not have shoved his coach. That being said, these are grown men that were in the heat of a game, emotions were running high. Things can sometimes get heated. Especially when you are getting your a$$ handed to you by the Saints. Hell, I was mad enough to fight on Sunday. I just would not pick a fight with Bryan Cox. I think it should be handled internally.

By: ctord

ctord — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:52:55 +0000

for all of those who think this is not a big deal. go ahead and shove your boss and see what happens. Sorry a fine will not cut it. def miss the next game if not the rest of the season.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:22:04 +0000

Joe why do you keeping mentioning adams shove but say nothing about cox pushing adam first? To me thats settimg a bad message to the team by punishing the player but not the coach also to me your saying its ok to put your hands on a player and its not they both are wrong

Simple, Cox was yelling at an official, which is part of the game. Hayward tried to push him back and Cox shoved him off. Then Hayward paused and then shoved Cox with two hands before they went back and forth. Call Joe old school, but coaches need to be given respect, and part of that respect is letting a coach do his thing and never putting your hands on him. –Joe

By: SilenceTheCritics

SilenceTheCritics — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:27:44 +0000

I agree Hayward should be disciplined for that action but that should be done in house. Maybe a fine or something but to outright cut the guy who has been a hard worker and valueable to this team as a back up is a bit harsh.

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:15:23 +0000

Silence:

But Your making this into something its not.

A shouting match is one thing (remember Chucky vs. Meshawn?). No problem. For a “captain,” much less a backup linebacker, to lay hands on an assistant coach and shove him, way, way, way out of line.

Unless the hammer comes down on Hayward, sets a horrible example.

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:12:40 +0000

These players are adult too.

Respect is earned, not given.

Bucs defense — the guys on the field — coughed up 41 points.

By: GenocideD

GenocideD — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:58:01 +0000

Schiano needs to tell Cox to keep his ass of the field. Adam shouldn’t have put his hands on Cox but I don’t think anyone on the team or coaching staff thinks he did this out of disrespect. That’s the key. Let’s not blow this out of proportion. Adam’s a good kid, has a great attitude and is someone we want on this team as a backup.

By: ctord

ctord — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:54:46 +0000

agree Joe. I saw some posts last night about this and the more I got to thinking about it the more I have come to the conclusion that if Hayward is not cut, then coach has lost a ton of credit. He talks a great game but the rubber has just met the road.

By: guns4roses

guns4roses — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:49:23 +0000

From what I saw on TV, I felt that Heyward was trying to shepherd Cox back to the sideline to keep Cox from drawing a penalty. My impression was that Cox was the one out of line, not Heyward.

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:48:15 +0000

It was in the second quarter and we were only down ten, and a coach is running on the field, which can cause a penalty. Not the right way to handle it, but I can understand why Adam did it.

Has Adam ever caused an ounce of trouble since he has been here?

On the other hand, Cox is a known mental case.

By: SilenceTheCritics

SilenceTheCritics — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:43:25 +0000

@ Joe

Completely disagree. A simple shove does not demand a thing to anyone outside of the organization. Now if they happened to get into an outright brawl on the field. Absolutely. Does it look bad on the organization? Sort of. Not really to me. But Your making this into something its not. Anytime you get passionate mean with fiery tempers together that are frustrated, sh!t happens. When you get into a fight with your wife… would it be fair for an outside to come to your door demanding to know what happened? same thing.