Comments on: Bucs Secondary Marching Toward Record Book

By: Mike J

Mike J — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:59:30 +0000

Cleaning up pass D, fortunately, is a lot easier than fixing run D. I am very optimistic that this can be straightened out in 2013.

By: Capt. Tim

Capt. Tim — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:35:22 +0000

Eric- lol! Nope, back to form!

By: SilenceTheCritics

SilenceTheCritics — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 16:14:28 +0000

I guess you were right Have, we aren’t the worst pass defense in history…. yet.

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:25:57 +0000

Didn’t take you long to get back to form Captain!

By: Capt. Tim

Capt. Tim — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:43:08 +0000

Jsmalls- lol! No. When Talib and wright started- we were the worst ranked Pass defense in the league. Talib sucked. Always did. Wright is bad. Always has been

By: Capt. Tim

Capt. Tim — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:38:33 +0000

So our secondary will be the worst in NFL history? Wow! It’s to bad nobody could see this coming, and started screaming about how horrible our corners were going to be. It’s too bad no one pointed out that you’d have to be an absolute fool to count on Aqib! First , because you can’t count on him. Second- because he was a lousy CB anyway.

Oh wait!! I did! I screamed it all preseason! And argued with all the ” Talib doesn’t suck” clueless guys.

And the Bucs answer was to waaaay over pay Wright. Who also is undependable. And also is a lousy CB!

Well, they doomed us to failure with those moves. The good news is that everything else is looking good. We draft two young stud CBs- all is well

By: JSmalls

JSmalls — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:48:25 +0000

We were actually getting turnovers with Talib and Wright, though. Now we’re not getting the turnovers and losing. Check out the pass defense our DC created in new york in his last job. Terrible!

By: Nic

Nic — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:24:48 +0000

This won’t be uncommon in the coming years. We keep noting how this is turning into 7 on 7 flag football and becoming a “passing” league, even if we break this record it won’t stand too long.

On another note, we may be playing with inexperienced corners now, but I remember seeing Aqib Talib and Eric Wright getting lit up the first half of the season, no?

By: Brad

Brad — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:17:04 +0000

The only seat that should be hot and getting hotter is our great GM. With the the ridiculous run D we had last year and now our passing D setting records where is the Dominik? He’s front and ctr when national media members are handing out positive stuff but when the chips are done I don’t hear a peep. He created this crap and not only made it worse by trading Talib too soon he didn’t find players that could improve our secondary. With these guys how hard could that be? One thing a D tries to do is make a team 1 dimensional. We do that every game and still can’t figure out how to slow down the pass. That’s pretty sad.

By: Eric

Eric — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:15:30 +0000

I can’t imagine it hurts ronde. Lots of guys had bad endings who got in hall of fame, I still remember the sad sight of seeing Unitas play for the chargers, and Namath for the rams.

And ronde is still at a very high level, it’s the rest of the secondary responsible for the debacle.

But how many will make the Hof from that defense? Brooks and Sapp surely, then who is next? Lynch maybe, but ronde is gonna be a few years removed from that greatness, having lived through the Rah travesty. Man deserves it but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

By: thegregwitul

thegregwitul — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 23:01:59 +0000

A couple things; one, the Bucs are breaking this record and it’s possible that it’s broken before the last game of the season. The secondary is that bad. Having said that, if the record is broken or not, I think this will only strengthen Ronde’s HOF case. For one, he’s playing at a near Pro Bowl pace his first year removed from CB. Two, while Ronde has had some bad plays here and there, he’s easily (and I mean it’s not even close) the best player in the secondary, he still makes impact play, forces turnovers and is playing incredibly well for a player of his age, having changed positions and paired with the worst secondary in NFL history. For goodness sake, Ronde is likely to make the Pro Bowl (he’s the leader in the FS spot in the fan vote) and this is with the worst secondary in the history of the NFL. Imagine having another young inexperienced player in Ronde’s spot all season, we might be talking about a secondary on pace to give up 6,000 yards for the season and that’s no joke.

Ronde will be fine. I hope to have him back, at least for one more season, and if he returns, I hope he has two new starting CB’s joining him on defense. As for Mark Barron; he’s a rookie, he’s making mistakes. From what I remember, John Lynch wasn’t setting the world on fire his rookie year, so I’ll be patient while this season concludes and hope for a massive improvement in 2013. We need CB’s, though, as we have a team full of nickel CB’s and no clear cut starter, let alone impact player, and I’m including Eric Wright in this conversation, who aside from that beautiful pick six against Eli Manning, hasn’t played up to the level of his contract.

By: Eric

Eric — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:25:30 +0000

Not a great reflection on our pass rush either.

They did fix up the run defense though.

Gonna have to score 38 to beast Drew and the boys Sunday, which is doable as their defense is butt awful too.