Comments on: The Flaw Of The Bucs Secondary

By: PRBucFan

PRBucFan — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:30:21 +0000

They gave up even more big plays to defenses when they pressed with corner early on in the season Ala the giants game. I pretty sure their fear is that 80% of the time if they pressed at the line our CB’s would get beat and we be given up 80 yrd bombs all day. Maybe?

By: Have A Nice Day

Have A Nice Day — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:27:33 +0000

Might as well sack Barber. He is a part of the very pass defense that is allowing record yardage to opposing QBs.

Honestly… Does everyone believe it is a talent issue yet the outcome has been the same regardless of who is on the field?

THE BUC’S DEFENSIVE SCHEME ALLOWS FOR HUGE PASSING YARDAGE.

Is that clear enough?

By: Patrick

Patrick — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:33:39 +0000

I’d like to thank our worthless secondary for RUINING our season for us and wasting a great effort by our offense this year!

Our whole secondary needs to be jettisoned this offseason (Biggers, Lewis, Wright)……keep Barber only. Draft a CB in the 1st round, draft another in either the 2nd or 3rd, and sign 1 or 2 in free agency.

By: Buc'It

Buc'It — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 03:35:27 +0000

I find it hilarious how everytime the issue of pass defens or anmtter comes up, “the uneducated” ar quick to throw ominik’s name out there. PAY ATTENTION CLASS: Dominik does not sign ‘his’ players nor is it his job to solely by himself scout them. Thats why you have a scouting department for college and upon the end of the season the GM AND HC sit down together along with other position coaches and assess the FA talent pool. Dominik is merely a check cutter..Barely more and nothing less..

Please educate yourselves before angirly venting. To think that Dominik signs whoever and then hands them over to the HC is flat out stupid.

Think what you want but for a team to have 2 OG’s worth $48 million, T worth $40 million, a DT making $10mil/yr, a QB coming up for a raise, a $55 million reciever and a CB paid nicely with $37 million (to name a few)….

AND we are still $20 million below the cap! We have a top 3 GM i the league. Just be a fan and enjoy the game, the ups and downs. We got a QB with a 91.1QBRand still aren’t satisfied..

By: Miguel El Magnifico

Miguel El Magnifico — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:52:53 +0000

” good point about Barron he is actually our worst cover DB by far according to Profootball Focus and one of the worst cover safeties in the league.”

After the draft I quoted Yahoo sports report that said Barron would be good supporting the run but would suffer in pass coverage.

Yahoo sports and I were attacked unmercifully. They were 100% on the money.

By: Pete 422

Pete 422 — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:23:54 +0000

I think its quite simple. The Buccaneers lack the size and talent at the CB position. I agree with Ramdog that Rogers-Cromate would be a great FA signing. I didn’t know Sam Shields was going to be a FA, but that would be great also (he is from Sarasota). I’d actually like to see the Buccaneers draft a stud DT to go with McCoy if one is available. I saw the draft is loaded with D linemen (a few corners).

By: teacherman777

teacherman777 — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:07:45 +0000

Why do you guys think SEATTLE’s secondary is WHOOPING a$$!!!???

Their corners are PHYSICAL AND BIG. They F with diva-receivers.

They bump them all day and get in their heads.

Its the future of how corners will play.

TACKLING and BUMP HARD.

Cuz most recievers are SOFT.

By: TONY850

TONY850 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:52:30 +0000

Not only do our corners lack experience at corner but they lack the size to consistently jam and lack the speed to recover after making such a move.

I know our secondary is abysmal but hell if they eek out 2 win out of 3 to finish I’ll be happy happy happy for whats to come in the following years.

But as a team offense has to be more consistent in making long drives happen, they are better equipped than what they are producing. Giving other teams too many opportunities to throw and make big plays against the Bucs.

By: Hunter

Hunter — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:30:12 +0000

Cummings is right on point. I have a “source” from Bucs. Asked him this same question 5 weeks ago. He said Cooper wants to do this, but Sheridan doesn’t because he feels that they’re too inexperienced..

By: Ramdog

Ramdog — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:19:39 +0000

@Buccanay – good point about Barron he is actually our worst cover DB by far according to Profootball Focus and one of the worst cover safeties in the league. Hopefully, he will improve next year in that department. I can’t blame Dominik for trading down because he essentially traded Claiborne for Barron, Lavonte David (an absolute stud at Linebacker) and the Dougernaut or Muscle Hamster. All in all this draft was good if Barron can learn coverage his pick wouldn’t have been in vain.

I wonder how much is on him and how much is coaching ??? Our offensive line coach has turned lineman from off the street into a decent group. Our defensive back coach has taught our players essentially how to get worse in Coverage it seems.

By: FLBoyInDallas

FLBoyInDallas — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:19:05 +0000

Please. Whatever. Remember what happened when Talib, a better CB than anyone we have on the active roster at the moment, tried to jam Hakeem Nicks over and over again in the game against the Giants? Yeah, I remember it vividly. Nicks beat Talib again and again like a red-headed stepchild. And now you want much lesser CB’s to try jamming opposing WR’s and get burned for deep passes all day long? Seriously?

You want to know what would happen? This is what Schiano and Sheridan already know: those CB’s would get roasted like a bunch of chestnuts over an open fire. That’s what.

This is why they stopped consistently trying to jam opposing WR’s earlier in the season. They know that this group of CB’s is most effective if they can just try to keep everything in front of them. That’s why the average YPC has gone down since the Giants & Saints games and why they are not getting burned deep very much now. Yes, they end up staying on the field longer because more short passes are completed and it takes longer to complete a drive, but that’s better than getting torched for long plays and quick scores like was happening earlier on. With a weak group like this you have to pick your poison and hope for the best.

By: Ramdog

Ramdog — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:09:48 +0000

Couldn’t agree more with this article. Joseph I liked a lot and thought they should’ve gone after him. In the off-season the corner I like is Rogers-Cromate’ – or Shields from Green Bay, maybe Grimes but my guess is he wants the bank and seems to have durability/attitude issues.

Of course they should and probably will cut Wright (which he deserves). Next they should draft a BIG corner or two (Johnthan Bank from Mississippi State seems like a good candidate). Finally, you may want to get rid of either Sheridan or Cooper there is really no excuse for being #32 in the League in pass defense. Sheridan had problems in NY and was fired after only a year as the defensive coordinator.