I’m frustrated as hell with Freeman, but I totally agree that it would be crazy to just get rid of him. I don’t want to do that at all. But he really has some huge flaws that he needs to improve on. Too much inconsistency, not stepping up when he has too, and zero playoff appearances in his 4 years. Really, it’s getting old. Next year, he has to do it. 2013: it’s time. The defense is horrendous and they’re the main reason we’re losing, but Freeman has had some bad performances (the Dallas game being the prime example) where he cost us the game. The WSH game he played horrendous in the 1st half and our defense eventually collapsed after being on the field so much. And yesterday he was invisible until the 2nd half (a little too late), and you can thank a muffed punt catch for his 1 play TD drive. If not for that miscue by PHI, it may not have even been close.

You better stop putting out all that good information. All the people that want Freeman gone don’t like to hear facts. They want us to trade for Tom Brady, or draft whoever does well at the combine, or whoever throws for the most yards during the college season. They don’t care that our offense is one of the highest scoring offenses in the league, and by far the best offense we have ever had. No way does a QB have anything to do with that. Hell, me or you could go out there with our receivers and throw for 4000 yards, because they do all the work. Clearly Freeman is the only QB in the league that has 2 good receivers. What are you thinking?

His receivers pad his stats? How exactly? By catching the ball? Jackson is having his best year as a pro. Better than he did with Philip Rivers. I’m not making excuses for his inaccuracy, don’t make excuses for his success. Every good QB has great receivers around him. This BS argument that the receivers are doing it is the biggest bunch of horse sh!t I’ve ever heard. You think those deep throws down the field are easy to make? Really? You should try out for the Bucs next year. And yes he plays better against bad teams. What QB doesn’t?

As for checking out of that last play, I highly doubt he had the ability to do that. I personally hated the play call, but you can’t expect any QB to check out of that. In reality, you wouldn’t be checking out of the play, you would be changing the philosophy of the coach. Schiano wanted to play it safe and run the ball. No way that’s on Freeman.

I have been reading this argument and must agree with Hawiian Buc as I look only at facts and what the QB does on the football field to determine his value. The fact is Freeman is having a great year everyone that knows football knows that. In fact Brad Johnson called into Freeman’s talk show and congratulated him on what a good job he was doing and said it was a pleasure watching him this year. Did he have a bad game Sunday – yes but consider. It is his first year in this offense. First year with Quarterback Coach/Guru Ron Turner. He is young. People don’t realize but he is extremely young he is the same age as Tannehill and Josh Wilson and a year older than Luck. Did he have a bad game yesterday – yes his rating was 77 but he had 2 TD’s and NO INT. Did he play good enough to win. Yes, sometimes your defense has to pick up the slack in that department.

Come on anytime your rating is above 90 (Josh’s 10 best in the NFL) you are considered pretty darn good. Also when your touchdown to interception ration is 3 to 1 you are in Elite company. Oh did I mention he is tied with TOM BRADY is TD’s look that up. He will probably eclipse 30 TDs this year which is awesome and hopefully won’t get too many more INTs.

His completion percentage is 7% lower than last year but that is due to taking more shots down the field and also the fact the offense is not a West Coast style and there are much fewer of the high percentage passes. Anyhow we are the 4th Highest Scoring team. So the problem is not really with our offense.

I will not argue Josh Freeman is elite because he isn’t yet but he could be. Is his completion percentage low ?? Of course but hopefully he can get that up. Also a better pocket presence would be nice. That said when you are up 11 with 7 minutes left it is on your D to win.

I guess we should sign Joe Flacco (only free agent QB worth a dam this offseason) yet he has a worse QB rating and TD to interception ratio. Maybe we can trade for Kevin Kolb, John Skelton or Brady Quinn. Why not Tim Teebow Miguel we can get him for a song. RG3 and Luck are anomolies and for every one of them there is a bust or 10 so trading the farm to get Barkley or Smith is not a good idea.

Also alot of good QB’s are gotten in the later rounds here is a list:

Bart Starr – 17th round pick (yes they had more than 7 rounds)
Johnny Unitas – 9th round pick
Roger Staubach
Joe Theismann
Ken Stabler
Joe Montana
Mark Rypien
Brett Favre
Kurt Warner
Tom Brady – 6th round pick
Brad Johnson – 9th round pick
Drew Brees

Oh Miguel and a little advice next time you post make sure to get a few facts it helps with your argument a tad.

And how is Freeman bad when he throws for 4000 and 30 TD’s? He only has 8 INT’s. Barkley throws that in 2 games. I don’t care who the coach, it always takes time to install a new offense. This new offense is a 180 from what we ran last year. It’s going to take time, especially with so many new guys.

As for USC, you apparently struggle with seeing my point. No doubt Barkley can throw the ball. However, it’s a lot easier when you can sit back in the pocket and eat a sandwich waiting for superior receivers to take advantage of inferior corners. When guys have 5 yards of separation, it’s not that difficult. That 5 yards becomes less than a yard in the NFL. That 6 seconds you get in the pocket in college becomes 2 seconds. That RB that picks up 8 yards on first down picks up 2 yards in the NFL. Those 3rd and 1′s become 3rd and 14′s in the NFL. He may end up being phenomenal, but I’ve seen the guy play a number of times and I’ve never been impressed. USC QB’s all tend to be very fragile emotionally, probably because they never realized the defense was actually out there to make things difficult for them, and they actually are able to hit you.

As for Geno, he’s the opposite type of player for a Norv Turner system. All you are doing is playing Madden with big names. You are ignoring scheme and surrounding personnel. Geno doesn’t fit in a Norv Turner offense. You just don’t know what you are talking about Miguel. Pieces have to fit together to work. Norv Turner and Geno Smith is a typical round hole, square peg situation.

The driver bowed his head in deference, as McKay slid his fat ass over and got out of the car. If it had been raining, he probably would have held his umbrella.

The chauffeur was QB coach, Bill Nelson.

No, I don’t believe Sullivan job was just getting coffee with the Giants. He probably drove Coughlin’s limo as well.

If Sullivan is so good, why is Freeman so bad?

If USC has the best college talent that money can buy, why would they settle for a lesser talent at QB?

Sure, people say that QB’s from USC can’t play in the NFL, people used to say that black QB’s couldn’t play in the NFL. That made just as much sense.

“Imagine what’s going to happen when a NFL coordinator gets to prepare for him.”

Imagine when a professional coach like Norv Turner coaches Geno up.