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		<title>By: Capt. Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nic -oh, it&#039;s the Angry black man act! &quot;Yawn&quot; . How does his being black factor in? The Arab Taliban members aren&#039;t black. His repeated acts of violence and stupidity were the connecting factor. The cabby slapping, teammate hitting, gun firing, granny threatening incidents were the issue! All of which showed total disregard for team or teammates. He would be a violent idiot regardless of color. But you can fume over any pretend black issue you want. Have fun
  Hawaiian - thanks. Barron made big hits in the first few games. Yay! But teams are now attacking him constantly in pass coverage- and he can&#039;t hold up. He has been beat down so badly on pass coverage, that he is useless in run defense. Put on any colored glasses you want- Barron has sucked the last three games. He&#039;s a rookie, and will improve. But right now- ugh. Terrible.

Oh, how&#039;s that &quot;greatest Running back in last 20 years&quot; doing? Haven&#039;t heard anything about him. Old you Martin was waaaay better than Richardson. Richardson has been the plodder I predicted so far . . .  Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic -oh, it&#8217;s the Angry black man act! &#8220;Yawn&#8221; . How does his being black factor in? The Arab Taliban members aren&#8217;t black. His repeated acts of violence and stupidity were the connecting factor. The cabby slapping, teammate hitting, gun firing, granny threatening incidents were the issue! All of which showed total disregard for team or teammates. He would be a violent idiot regardless of color. But you can fume over any pretend black issue you want. Have fun<br />
  Hawaiian &#8211; thanks. Barron made big hits in the first few games. Yay! But teams are now attacking him constantly in pass coverage- and he can&#8217;t hold up. He has been beat down so badly on pass coverage, that he is useless in run defense. Put on any colored glasses you want- Barron has sucked the last three games. He&#8217;s a rookie, and will improve. But right now- ugh. Terrible.</p>
<p>Oh, how&#8217;s that &#8220;greatest Running back in last 20 years&#8221; doing? Haven&#8217;t heard anything about him. Old you Martin was waaaay better than Richardson. Richardson has been the plodder I predicted so far . . .  Lol</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=79753&#038;cpage=2#comment-2418201</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back Captain.  I completely agree with Celly.  Perhaps you haven&#039;t been watching the games.  Barron almost never misses a snap, and has played very well minus the last couple games.  He&#039;s been talked about all season as being a Pro Bowler. Obviously at this point he doesn&#039;t deserve it.  Claiborne has been a disappointment so far, although he&#039;s only a rookie and he may end up being great.  Even if Claiborne played like Deion Sanders in his prime, it wouldn&#039;t matter because the other 2 or 3 receivers would be wide open.  We need a completely new secondary, and I would be shocked and angered if that&#039;s not exactly what we do this offseason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back Captain.  I completely agree with Celly.  Perhaps you haven&#8217;t been watching the games.  Barron almost never misses a snap, and has played very well minus the last couple games.  He&#8217;s been talked about all season as being a Pro Bowler. Obviously at this point he doesn&#8217;t deserve it.  Claiborne has been a disappointment so far, although he&#8217;s only a rookie and he may end up being great.  Even if Claiborne played like Deion Sanders in his prime, it wouldn&#8217;t matter because the other 2 or 3 receivers would be wide open.  We need a completely new secondary, and I would be shocked and angered if that&#8217;s not exactly what we do this offseason.</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
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		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im beginning to think the deal for talib was made when the pats came for a visit. Bill was a supporter of schiano remember? Bellicheat told coach &quot;ok let me get your best corner&quot;  bill knew aqib would make a instant impact. You can&#039;t have a petsonality in today&#039;$ league they want robots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im beginning to think the deal for talib was made when the pats came for a visit. Bill was a supporter of schiano remember? Bellicheat told coach &#8220;ok let me get your best corner&#8221;  bill knew aqib would make a instant impact. You can&#8217;t have a petsonality in today&#8217;$ league they want robots.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacko101</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=79753&#038;cpage=2#comment-2416695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacko101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thinking the same thing Sullivians]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking the same thing Sullivians</p>
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		<title>By: SullivansLostPlaybook</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=79753&#038;cpage=1#comment-2416562</link>
		<dc:creator>SullivansLostPlaybook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sitting here right now watching talib shut down andre johnson, yesterday we made jason avant look like jerry  rice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sitting here right now watching talib shut down andre johnson, yesterday we made jason avant look like jerry  rice</p>
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		<title>By: Bangkok Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=79753&#038;cpage=1#comment-2416329</link>
		<dc:creator>Bangkok Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Joe - Is it too early for you to start putting up player bios for the upcoming draft class?
You might want to start on corner backs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe &#8211; Is it too early for you to start putting up player bios for the upcoming draft class?<br />
You might want to start on corner backs.</p>
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		<title>By: Celly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Capt_Tim.... If you&#039;re going to spread information, please at least make sure it is the correct information.
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1) the Bucs traded down twice in the first round. They let him slip thru their fingers. How’s Barron looking? The keep taking him off the field, and playing Black. 
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First and foremost, the Bucs only traded down ONCE in the first round...WHILE Claiborne was still available.  They passed on him for a reason, not because they let him &quot;slip through their fingers.&quot;

Secondly, I would say that Barron is looking good.  SURE we would all like to see him make some more splash plays, but I think the majority will realize that his IS rookie and will make some mistakes.  Given the type of defense that Schiano runs, he needed a hard hitting, form tackling saftey to really put the D together.  Based on the stats, it appears that he is that.  You can&#039;t always expect a rookie to make the Pro Bowl.

per NFL.com:
Claiborne has 30 solo tackles and 1 INT (including a TD from a fumble recovery) with 5 passes defended.
Barron has 55 solo tackles, a forced fumble and an INT with 8 passes defended.

I would think the coaching staff would be satisfied with that production.

Lastly, I&#039;m not sure what games you&#039;re watching, but I don&#039;t see them taking Barron and replacing him with Black...
...what I DO see is them dropping Rhonde to the slot in dime packages and bringing in Black to take over the [free] saftey spot.

as per: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/six-nfl-quarterbacks-enter-week-11-perfect-playing-201147816--nfl.html

as of week 11, Barron was one of 8 defensive rookies with at least 90% playing time.

Like many of the other fans on here, before the season started, I figured I would just take this season to enjoy watching this team learn to play together.  I knew that it might take a whole season for Freeman to get acclimated to Jackson..  for [Teach Me How To] Dougie to learn to better read NFL defenses (with the help of Byner)..  for Schiano to learn to coach in an NFL setting.  I expected this would be a rough season...

...The issue was how well they played.  No one expected us to hang with some of the teams we hung with, ESPECIALLY early in the season.  I&#039;ve been harping on the fact that even though I knew we wouldn&#039;t be GREAT this season, some of those early close games raised my expectations on the team.

But I don&#039;t think there is a need for doom and gloom.

We&#039;ve all seen what Freeman can do and I, personally, think he is deserving of a new contract.  Lets not forget, he&#039;s won&#039;t be 25 until AFTER the season is completed.  He WILL get better and more consistant.  I think we&#039;re all looking forward to what this offense can do once Nicks and Joseph are both healthy...  With Dotson getting a full offseasons work playing next to them and them learning how to play together.

We&#039;ll have a new set (maybe even a trio) of toys on the defensive side of the ball in the form of DB&#039;s and we&#039;ll be serious next year.

Go Bucs....

[Message to Dominik]: Give Bennett what he wants.  He deserves it and he&#039;s earned it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Capt_Tim&#8230;. If you&#8217;re going to spread information, please at least make sure it is the correct information.<br />
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1) the Bucs traded down twice in the first round. They let him slip thru their fingers. How’s Barron looking? The keep taking him off the field, and playing Black.<br />
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<p>First and foremost, the Bucs only traded down ONCE in the first round&#8230;WHILE Claiborne was still available.  They passed on him for a reason, not because they let him &#8220;slip through their fingers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Secondly, I would say that Barron is looking good.  SURE we would all like to see him make some more splash plays, but I think the majority will realize that his IS rookie and will make some mistakes.  Given the type of defense that Schiano runs, he needed a hard hitting, form tackling saftey to really put the D together.  Based on the stats, it appears that he is that.  You can&#8217;t always expect a rookie to make the Pro Bowl.</p>
<p>per NFL.com:<br />
Claiborne has 30 solo tackles and 1 INT (including a TD from a fumble recovery) with 5 passes defended.<br />
Barron has 55 solo tackles, a forced fumble and an INT with 8 passes defended.</p>
<p>I would think the coaching staff would be satisfied with that production.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;m not sure what games you&#8217;re watching, but I don&#8217;t see them taking Barron and replacing him with Black&#8230;<br />
&#8230;what I DO see is them dropping Rhonde to the slot in dime packages and bringing in Black to take over the [free] saftey spot.</p>
<p>as per: <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/six-nfl-quarterbacks-enter-week-11-perfect-playing-201147816--nfl.html" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/six-nfl-quarterbacks-enter-week-11-perfect-playing-201147816&#8211;nfl.html</a></p>
<p>as of week 11, Barron was one of 8 defensive rookies with at least 90% playing time.</p>
<p>Like many of the other fans on here, before the season started, I figured I would just take this season to enjoy watching this team learn to play together.  I knew that it might take a whole season for Freeman to get acclimated to Jackson..  for [Teach Me How To] Dougie to learn to better read NFL defenses (with the help of Byner)..  for Schiano to learn to coach in an NFL setting.  I expected this would be a rough season&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;The issue was how well they played.  No one expected us to hang with some of the teams we hung with, ESPECIALLY early in the season.  I&#8217;ve been harping on the fact that even though I knew we wouldn&#8217;t be GREAT this season, some of those early close games raised my expectations on the team.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think there is a need for doom and gloom.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all seen what Freeman can do and I, personally, think he is deserving of a new contract.  Lets not forget, he&#8217;s won&#8217;t be 25 until AFTER the season is completed.  He WILL get better and more consistant.  I think we&#8217;re all looking forward to what this offense can do once Nicks and Joseph are both healthy&#8230;  With Dotson getting a full offseasons work playing next to them and them learning how to play together.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have a new set (maybe even a trio) of toys on the defensive side of the ball in the form of DB&#8217;s and we&#8217;ll be serious next year.</p>
<p>Go Bucs&#8230;.</p>
<p>[Message to Dominik]: Give Bennett what he wants.  He deserves it and he&#8217;s earned it.</p>
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		<title>By: clintro</title>
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		<dc:creator>clintro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the whole team lost yesterday.... From coach to 7th round cornerback.  If the offense gets one more first down or scores more.... Hell if they run 2 more seconds off the clock they win.  If the corner makes that interception we win.  If the other corner makes a play on the last play of  the  game we win..... Lots of blame to go around.  

But we are much better than last year, Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day. Some times you have to settle for the small victories.  I was mad as hell yesterday, ruined my whole day that we lost like that. (still quite mad actually).  But life goes on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole team lost yesterday&#8230;. From coach to 7th round cornerback.  If the offense gets one more first down or scores more&#8230;. Hell if they run 2 more seconds off the clock they win.  If the corner makes that interception we win.  If the other corner makes a play on the last play of  the  game we win&#8230;.. Lots of blame to go around.  </p>
<p>But we are much better than last year, Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day. Some times you have to settle for the small victories.  I was mad as hell yesterday, ruined my whole day that we lost like that. (still quite mad actually).  But life goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Capt Tim please don&#039;t go easy on me.  I would love to see you correct my grammar like an as*hole because that solves everything.  Oh yeah, and please enlighten this veteran who exactly attacked my home because I LOVE a good history lesson.  Am I calling you a bigot because you likened a black man named Talib who plays a GAME for a living to an oppressive regime with direct ties to international terrorism?  No, people make stupid jokes sometimes.  Do I have the right to call people out on it?  You bet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Capt Tim please don&#8217;t go easy on me.  I would love to see you correct my grammar like an as*hole because that solves everything.  Oh yeah, and please enlighten this veteran who exactly attacked my home because I LOVE a good history lesson.  Am I calling you a bigot because you likened a black man named Talib who plays a GAME for a living to an oppressive regime with direct ties to international terrorism?  No, people make stupid jokes sometimes.  Do I have the right to call people out on it?  You bet.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=79753&#038;cpage=1#comment-2413176</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here, here &quot;this joe&quot;.  although wright and talib might not be elite, they are miles ahead of what we got stuck with.

also, i, for one, appreciate differentiating your opinion with &quot;this joe&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here, here &#8220;this joe&#8221;.  although wright and talib might not be elite, they are miles ahead of what we got stuck with.</p>
<p>also, i, for one, appreciate differentiating your opinion with &#8220;this joe&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Have A Nice Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Have A Nice Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll say it again, if the offense has to score more than 24 points a game, every game, for this team to win, they aren&#039;t going to win many games.

Either the offense needs to be elite, or the defense needs to be decent. Only the offense has shown signs of that part this year and we have won because of it. The defense on the other hand has not stopped an opposing QB in any game this year and we have won in spite of it. The lowest point on the team is the pass coverage by far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it again, if the offense has to score more than 24 points a game, every game, for this team to win, they aren&#8217;t going to win many games.</p>
<p>Either the offense needs to be elite, or the defense needs to be decent. Only the offense has shown signs of that part this year and we have won because of it. The defense on the other hand has not stopped an opposing QB in any game this year and we have won in spite of it. The lowest point on the team is the pass coverage by far.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastBucsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastBucsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could not agree more Joe. While neither were budding stars they were talented enough to not got embarrassed routinely by rookie third round picks at quarterback. The situation with the Buccaneers secondary is truly a tragedy that cant be experienced very often in the NFL.

 Just think of where we started (which wasnt that great) to where we are now. Seventh rounders and free agents trying to play against the leagues greatest athletes at WR. 

I do lay most of the blame on Talib and Wright but at least some of it needs to go to Dominik. Talib has been injury prone most of his career (when was the last time he finished a season?). Wright was a starting corner in a bad Lions secondary before he came here. We should have been better prepared.

Why is Myron Lewis still on this team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could not agree more Joe. While neither were budding stars they were talented enough to not got embarrassed routinely by rookie third round picks at quarterback. The situation with the Buccaneers secondary is truly a tragedy that cant be experienced very often in the NFL.</p>
<p> Just think of where we started (which wasnt that great) to where we are now. Seventh rounders and free agents trying to play against the leagues greatest athletes at WR. </p>
<p>I do lay most of the blame on Talib and Wright but at least some of it needs to go to Dominik. Talib has been injury prone most of his career (when was the last time he finished a season?). Wright was a starting corner in a bad Lions secondary before he came here. We should have been better prepared.</p>
<p>Why is Myron Lewis still on this team?</p>
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