How does having a good defense have anything to do with being a good quarterback? I’m not saying that Freeman is bad JUST b/c the Bucs don’t win games. Obviously it takes a team effort to win a game and our defense sucks. I’m saying he’s bad b/c in four years he hasn’t learned how to throw an accurate pass.

In his first year as a rookie he completed 54.5% of his passes. In 2012, he’s completing 54.7% of his passes with the best receivers he and the Bucs have ever had. That’s horrible but it’s exactly what he is..a toss up..and average QB..a guy that has a 50/50 shot at completing a pass every time he drops back. And please don’t bring up the myth that the Bucs offense is full of risky passes and that the long ball attempts lead to a bad percentage. Freeman cannot throw the intermediate pass. That is something that every NFL QB must be LETHAL with and our guy isn’t even competent in that area.

In fact, I’d be much rather willing to have a conversation with a real Bucs fan who knows the “ins and outs of football” which unfortunately Brooks255 you do NOT. If you have seen all of 5′s snaps, you would have seen him missing wide open receivers by 5-6 yards. Sure you’ve seen him light up the stat sheet when either playing a sub .500 team or when trying to mount a feverish comeback after getting 14 pts in the hole. By the way, when a team has a 14 pt lead, they tend to back off on coverage, making it easier to pad your stats.

I’m tired of Freeman getting a pass by “real Bucs fans”. It’s okay to be pissed off, that’s exactly what I am today. I’m incredibly pissed at the fact that we are in a predicament for the draft next year. We need a defensive backfield if we want to even have a .500 next year, but we need a QB if we want to have a playoff WIN in the next 5-6 yrs. What do you choose?

“He had ONE bad season.” Are you kidding? He’s had 3/4 bad seasons. To add to Joe’s stat above..of those 23 wins, ONLY 6 are against teams with a winning record AND 10 out of those 23 times we had to comeback and win the game in the 4th quarter. TD/INT ratio is the most meaningless and frequently referenced nonsense stat on these boards. It is IRRELEVANT. Here are some QBs with a WORSE TD/INT ratio this year:

Peyton Manning
Ben Reothlisberger
Matt Ryan
Drew Brees
Eli Manning

Pick ONE that is worse than Josh Freeman. But hey, you’re the football player after all and these are just objective facts I’m presenting here. What position did you play in high school?

@Brooks255 – Exactly, Brooks, there is no “I” in team. Joe’s loyalty and focus is to the team and what’s best for it, not individual players.

Regarding Freeman, he has a lot more to prove whether you want to believe it or not. Those stats you mentioned don’t mean a lot, at least as it relates to winning a championship. Freeman’s career record as a starter is 23-30, so the scrutiny is warranted. And by the way, it’s ok to be critical of your own team. It doesn’t make you less of a fan, as long as you cheer every play when the whistle blows.